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DiscussionMindless Monday, 10 August 2015 (self.badhistory)

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So, with that said, how was your weekend, everyone?

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[–]taylororo 11ポイント12ポイント  (10子コメント)

There will come a day when I think racism on reddit is not a big deal.

But it is not this day.

[–]CaptainPyjamaSharkAlexander Kerensky & the Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

One balks at trying to typify the Reddit 'hivemind'. We love Bernie Sanders but we hate black people.

[–]de_la_seoul_Rommel, you a busta. 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's completely bizarre when I see people who unironically complain about SJWs and political correctness extol Sanders in the same breath, seeing as Sanders was an OG participant in the civil rights movement.

[–]thesecondkira 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But he's male so he knows the exact, appropriate amount to talk about things.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Was it the images that were plastered across the front page last night?

[–]taylororo 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yep!!

[–]ankhx100stop stalin for time. hue hue hue 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm afraid to ask, but what images? ._.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/punchablefaces was dominating the front page with a picture of a woman who I think interrupted a Bernie Sanders rally by talking about racism. The posts were...distasteful.

[–]brainburger 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I must be said, it would have been a small but highly active group who caused the pic to dominate /r/all like that.

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think it's just Reddit. It's a reflection of society.

Nobody want's to admit it, because it's verboten to criticize the Glorious Will of the People nowadays, but most of society is naturally sullen, reactionary, and self-serving. Democracy is an ugly system that enshrines the popular prejudices of "society" into law and then renders progressive change near impossible due to sheer social inertia and problems of collective action. Liberal democracy, especially without an educated populace, is perfectly designed to perpetuate systemic injustice.

That's why we have relatively undemocratic institutions like the Supreme Court to force popular compliance with the opinions of legal experts. Not a single progressive victory would have been possible without them laying down the law and telling "society" to get fucked.

[–]werijoiwerp -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

white ppl are crazy man :-P

Bernie Sanders seems OK but his supporters seem to be the worst

[–]belgarion90Graduated summa cum laude, Total War University 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Oh joy, new muffler time in my car. Yay for spending money I didn't want to spend!

[–]Turin_The_MormegilDAGOTH-UR-WAS-A-VOLCANO 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

I have to have the break pads replaced, as well as a ball joint. It's gonna set me back a good $500 or so. Hooray for cars that are old enough to vote!

[–]King_Posner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

goes in to get new brake pads. leaves with new axel, rotors, pads, bearings, wheels, and a suggestion to take a look at the front wheel system soon. grumble grumble.

[–]The740Feminists hired Christians to put lead in the Roman water supply 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

There may be no more important person to befriend than someone who has easy access to the tools needed to perform car maintenance.

Until a couple years ago, I'd never done anything more complex than changing brake pads. But a couple months ago, it was both ball joints, both lower control arms, tie rod ends, and a couple of other things all done for nothing more than the cost of the parts. Well, and the time to do it, but that's another story.

[–]turtleeatingaldermanAcademo-Fascist 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

My performing maintenance on my car would truly be a public safety concern.

[–]The740Feminists hired Christians to put lead in the Roman water supply 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah, you drive a Ford Taurus as well?

[–]turtleeatingaldermanAcademo-Fascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope, just mechanically incompetent.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

I had a good weekend. On Saturday, I went to visit my sister with my mother. On the one hand, I felt completely out of place, as I got the impression that it was meant to be a mother-daughter visit that I happened to tag along on because I wanted to see my sister, but at the same time, no one seemed to mind. I had some sister-time, but the fact that I was there to comfort her after a miscarriage meant that I really had no clue what I was doing. I just hung out, read my nieces some books, and then walked around the farm with her. I suspect that was really what she wanted - just someone to come and say they cared too.

On Sunday, I went hiking with some friends, then played board games, and then went to a food truck rodeo where I had a very nice Thai taco. I don't know that I'm a fan of food truck rodeos - the price gouging is astounding - but I liked my taco, so that made up for it. The movie afterwards - watching Monty Python and the Holy Grail in a park on a big projector screen - was lovely as well.

I've now said good-bye to my friends, though. I'm ready to move. All that's left is to just convince the apartment agency in Austin that I'm serious, and that my husband's job is real. Hopefully, I'm moving this week. Hopefully.

[–]Emergency_WardDon't cortez those Aztecs, bro 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're right, just being there, and being semi-normal was really nice for your sister. Not to dictate her feelings or anything, but I understand and you helped.

[–]belgarion90Graduated summa cum laude, Total War University 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never underestimate the power of a good hug.

Or a bad one, depending on your HR department.

[–]alynnidalarThere needs to be cooked is the rice. - /u/badhistory_ss 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Moving's a pain, but I can only imagine how exciting that must be for you guys. Hope everything goes smoothly!

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Me too! We've been playing the "how much stuff can you fit in the car" game. It turns out we have a choice between clothes and a keyboard. Sentiment is currently leaning towards the keyboard.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I want somewhere to rant.

[–]alynnidalarThere needs to be cooked is the rice. - /u/badhistory_ss 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Conveniently, here is a Mindless Monday thread. :)

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't even know what to rant about, I just want to rant about something. Sigh.

Life is stressful sometimes.

[–]pittfan46 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rant about Fallen or achierius....my tech hasn't been looked at.

[–]The740Feminists hired Christians to put lead in the Roman water supply 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

I've been around a lot of people and in a lot of different atmospheres, and I've never seen such widespread and annoying proselytizing as the pro-Bernie Sanders crowd.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

My dad got a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker and has been feeling very pleased with himself. I'm not sure what to say to him, so I've just been smiling and nodding every time he brings it up. I think he's disappointed in me.

[–]The740Feminists hired Christians to put lead in the Roman water supply 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Every time I see it brought up like voting for Sanders would create some type of utopia, my inner Homer Simpson kicks in.

More specifically, the "Marge, you're my wife and I love you very much. But you're living in a world of make-believe, with flowers and bells and leprechauns, and magic frogs with funny little hats."

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think he thinks it will create a utopia, but he is planning on voting for an idealistic candidate that has a goal that he agrees with. I don't necessarily see anything wrong with being idealistic. I just don't like how there's this certainty that Sanders will win or that he even has a chance.

[–]The740Feminists hired Christians to put lead in the Roman water supply 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think he thinks it will create a utopia

From recent experience, that cements him firmly in the 1%.

[–]namesrhardtothinkofScholar of the Great Western Unflower 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually watched an interview with Sanders, and he seemed like a really convicted, reasonable man with reasonable views.

Too bad so little of his fanbase has any actual understanding of politics

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I wait around hoping that one day a non-flaired user will ask me about the shaft tomb culture on /r/AskHistorians, but that day may be a long time coming. I had this insightful exchange with a user on /r/ArtefactPorn that made me realize that I can't just sit around and wait.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

tell me an interesting fact about the shaft tomb culture

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Despite being contemporaneous with Teotihuacan and having a corridor which would aid in travel and trade to Central Mexico, there is very little to no contact between the shaft tomb culture and Teotihuacan. A few Thin Orange sherds have been found from time to time, but that's about it. Talud tablero architecture does not make an appearance in the region until after the fall of Teotihuacan. We're unsure why there was no regular contact, but my hypothesis is that neither culture had anything the other culture wanted.

West Mexico also seems to have lacked any influence from the Olmec instead being influenced by the coastal Capacha culture, a contemporaneous culture to the Olmec.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thin Orange sherds

Are these just sherds that are not thick and have a yellow-red color, or something else?

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a ceramic type from Teotihuacan which is used as a diagnostic when looking at other sites. It is indeed rather thin and orange colored.

[–]_sekhmet_Lincoln fired Fort Sumter at the Confederate cannon balls 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I spent all weekend painting and cleaning out the basement. I learned that my great grandfather built my great grandmother an entire set of bedroom furniture, plus chest for her birthday when they were dating in high school. He bought her a cow and a diamond necklace for their first anniversary. I also earned he basically owned my hometown, but lost it all gambling. He was an interesting man.

[–]namesrhardtothinkofScholar of the Great Western Unflower 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aaahahahaha

ahahahha

hahahaahahaha

I was talking to some 12-year old on /r/worldnews and he dropped this gem on me:

Any [sic] frankly, a lot of cultures or aspects of cultures should be exterminated as non-violently as possible

it's like finding a beautiful, endangered species out in the wild

[–]40kfreakQuouaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

My dad fucking spilled water on my 100 year old book. And of course it was my fault for leaving it out.

[–]TurnshroudMod abuse? More like mod amuse 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

D: OH NO! What was the book? And how badly damaged is the book?

[–]40kfreakQuouaboo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was a book i bought about ww1 armies written during ww1, the damage isn't too severe it's mostly discolored the cover and I rushed to dry it off almost immediately and I don't think any of the pages were damaged so I got lucky

[–]TurnshroudMod abuse? More like mod amuse 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hmm...I've been having a bunch of computer problems lately: programs not loading properly, saying they not installed etc. Not sure what's going on. Tried fixing it yesterday to no avail. May need to ty a factory reboot.

[–]belgarion90Graduated summa cum laude, Total War University 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Corrupt HDD?

[–]TurnshroudMod abuse? More like mod amuse 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know. Perhaps.

[–]turtleeatingaldermanAcademo-Fascist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

SSD master race!

[–]hussard_de_la_mort"sandwich in my right, .45 in my other hand" 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a barely acceptable excuse for not playing NTW with me, ya jerk.

[–]alynnidalarThere needs to be cooked is the rice. - /u/badhistory_ss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ahhhh, had a great week. My sister and brother in law came out for a visit, so I took the week off work and they/my other sister/my parents had a lovely time. We went camping at Sleeping Bear Sand Dunes in Michigan, which is always beautiful (even if it did just come through an almost-tornado...), went kayaking and tubing, poked around Traverse City for awhile, stuffed ourselves on samples from Cherry Republic... good times.

It didn't even rain until we were leaving, either!

[–]leicemancomethGeorge R.R. Martin is literally Mendelssohn 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Finally moved down to Georgia for my masters program (don't worry, it's not a history degree, my liver is safe.) I'm just afraid because I have a big red Sherman beard.

Anyways, as an ignant Californian who has visited Georgia and the South 4-5 times, what should I know y'all?

[–]FeragornTime Traveling Space Jew 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Where in Georgia are you going?

[–]leicemancomethGeorge R.R. Martin is literally Mendelssohn 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Athens

[–]FeragornTime Traveling Space Jew 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, I don't know much about UGA, but you'll be fine. Just don't bring up the war.

[–]_sekhmet_Lincoln fired Fort Sumter at the Confederate cannon balls 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Know that the ice tea isn't so much tea as it is sugar and water with some tea flavoring.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't call Sherman a hero or say he "civilised the South." People don't like that sort of thing.

[–]TiakoTevinter apologist, shill for Big Lyrium 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As the one person who is actually from Georgia here:

You'll fit right in with the big red beard. It's hot as hell but energy prices are cheap. In fact, everything is cheap. Smoking is more common than you are used to and it is illegal to carry alcohol outside.

Honestly, there is nothing to worry about here. Despite fifty years of negative media stereotypes people are pretty friendly here. Nobody will say you have a party mouth and if a cop pulls you over he won't ask what you are doing around these here parts, boy. There are Confederate monuments around but literally nobody cares if you complain about them. Cook county is desperately poor but they have actually done a lot to address racial tensions in the police force over the past couple decades.

Honestly, your biggest culture shock will be football culture.

[–]thesecondkira 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you me? My masters is an online program, but I came here because of mostly free rent. Georgia is... interesting. It's important to know they don't have a great education system and the lion's share of ignorance can be blamed on that, for the sake of one's sanity.

Edit: I agree with /u/Tiako that it's not as bad as the stereotype.

[–]WopadagoProtocols of the Frequentists of Zion 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to the SEC. Your liver is far from safe.

Love,

Mizzou, (the South of the North)

[–]georgeguy007High Chartist Chancellor (was elected tho, like Hitler) 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Alright taking a civil war history class in college!! Any thoughts on these books:

REQUIRED TEXTBOOK: ISBN: 9780813921044 -- Apostles of Disunion: Southern Secession Commissioners and the Causes of the Civil War (A Nation Divided: Studies in the Civil War Era)

REQUIRED TEXTBOOK: ISBN: 9780820345406 -- Becoming Confederates: Paths to a New National Loyalty (Mercer University Lamar Memorial Lectures)

REQUIRED TEXTBOOK: ISBN: 9780807120170 -- Brokenburn: The Journal of Kate Stone, 1861-1868 (Library of Southern Civilization)

REQUIRED TEXTBOOK: ISBN: 9780743299626 -- Lincoln's Greatest Speech: The Second Inaugural (Simon & Schuster Lincoln Library)

REQUIRED TEXTBOOK: ISBN: 9780809087433 -- The Soldier's Pen: Firsthand Impressions of the Civil War

Anyone know anything? Thanks!

[–]mudsill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apostles of Disunion rules and I wish more people would read it. It's almost nothing but the exact words that pro-secession lobbyists said to state legislatures. If that book won't put to bed any myths that secession wasn't about slavery, nothing will.

[–]pittfan46 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep this weekend was fun but it was too busy. I moved furniture and drove 20 hours total.

It was a good weekend. I got to shoot a .308 rifle. And go to the beach and get tossed around by the waves. Haha

Oh and South America needs players for /r/historicalworldpowers.

[–]tobbinatorFrancisco Franco, Caudillo de /r/Badhistory 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes I just really really hate my family.

Also it's been 10 weeks of "6-8 weeks" and still no news on exchange >:(

[–]hussard_de_la_mort"sandwich in my right, .45 in my other hand" 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So I get to be an assistant squad leader for D-Day because the guy ahead of me had to get his spine welded together or something. This means that I have actual responsibilities and may even have to wear rank. The horror.

Speaking of D-Day, you should definitely come to D-Day if you're in the Cleveland/Buffalo/Pittsburgh area. It's cool. We have tents. And fancy hats. The Krauts lose and everyone cheers.