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[–]sestoRhode Island - Bernie Squad - Cadet 490ポイント491ポイント  (13子コメント)

Thank's for doing such an amazing job, mods. Seriously. Your work is absolutely invaluable.

[–]wordwordwordwordwordTexas 122ポイント123ポイント  (3子コメント)

Seriously. I adore these mods.

[–]jb2386Super Special VIP - Gaius Baltar 75ポイント76ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nawww shucks. You guys!!!!

[–]DJShamykins 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

And if it's any consolation (or perhaps a testament to your good work), as a casual browser I haven't run into any seemingly toxic behavior like this.

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That is good to know. Thanks.

[–]fbolt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I am glad that Bernie's supporters feel this way. I don't think the bandwagon Reddit crowd does though. Do they really think that calling women they don't like cunts will ensure that he wins the nomination?

[–]collegestudentt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I mean, that's what they were hired by the campaign to do, of course they're going to do the best work!

[–]FenrisFrost [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If Sanders gets the nod, it will be in no small part because of this group.

[–]Kristouph 147ポイント148ポイント  (21子コメント)

Bernie handled the situation well and so should we.

[–]wordwordwordwordwordTexas 67ポイント68ポイント  (14子コメント)

Ultimately I think that the reason this subreddit is so run so wonderfully is the mods' decision to always emulate Bernie.

[–]Vermonty_PythonMayor Quimby[S,M] 115ポイント116ポイント  (9子コメント)

We do not emulate Bernie. We ARE Bernie.

[–]wordwordwordwordwordTexas 103ポイント104ポイント  (4子コメント)

I always thought Bernie looked suspiciously like a small group of young redditors standing on each others' shoulders.

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope 80ポイント81ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]nonprehensionArizona 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I did a business" -Bernie Sanders

[–]sailortitanVermont - Bernie Squad - Private First Class [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was so hoping this would be the pic linked.

[–]anarashka 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of us, one of us?

[–]JPPut 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do it like..... BERNIE?

[–]IceburgSlimk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Roaming through the cupboard

jar of pickles never opened since 1983

Peanuts in a pile and Elvis down the aisle

Singing gallantly

I wish I could be

A little more like Bernie

Oh, I wanna be

I wanna be a little more like Bernie

[–]Judg3Smails [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

emulateworship Bernie.

Fixed that for you.

[–]wordwordwordwordwordTexas [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nah I think emulate was the appropriate word choice here actually

[–]Quimbyby 92ポイント93ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hey there - I'm a longtime lurker, first-time contributor (I've been reading the sub for months, and only had the courage to create an account a couple of days ago). I just wanted to quickly write in and say that, quite honestly, the moderators are doing a brilliant job. I mean, what a terrifying, intense task: four or five people (with lives and families and jobs and memes) attempting to moderate the contributions of over seventy-thousand subscribers. I would have no clue where even to begin.

Not only has the moderating been fair and consistent, it has been remarkably inclusive and consultative - I simply cannot think of another forum that has so often consulted with its members on its direction, its rules and its tone. Just the best.

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope[M] 49ポイント50ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yes, where would we be without our jobs and memes?

Thank you though. We are nothing without our community.

[–]jb2386Super Special VIP - Gaius Baltar[M] 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, no memes allow. Banned.

[–]Jon_Ham_Cock 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Dankest moderators around... (sniff).

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope[M] 178ポイント179ポイント  (30子コメント)

Some users have already asked how and where the line can be drawn regarding racist rhetoric and language. In Jacobellis v. Ohio, Justice Potter Stewart wrote, on identifying what is and is not obscene, "I know it when I see it." We ask that you trust us to know it when we see it. It's usually pretty obvious.

[–]Zagden 93ポイント94ポイント  (7子コメント)

It's really frustrating when that's the response to rules against harassment and racism.

It's your community. You can control it however you like. Beyond that, "don't be racist" shouldn't be a controversial rule. Anywhere. Especially not here.

[–]Minimalphilia 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

The issue is rather that racism has a very broad spectrum. The line where useful discussion about issues concerning race ends and racism begins is very open to speculation imo since when you talk about the subject everyone is risking crossing that line in some way or another, even though he does not even intend to do so.

While blatant racism, of course, is easy to identify by assuming facts about a person/a group of persons solely on the colour of their skin with absolute disregard towards historical, social and economical factors.

[–]Paremo 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

But drawing the line in public invites people to troll and hide behind it. Some people will be shitty, unfortunately.

[–]Minimalphilia 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely. You should watch racist rhethoric here in Germany, since people just don't want to appear racist and want to offer as few space to attack as possible. I support the mods for making their own decision casewise and I do trust them to make the right one, even if there might be a few too harsh judgments, or a few not harsh enough ones.

[–]Max_Insanity 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because there's difficulty with the grey sometimes doesn't mean that black and white don't exist.

[–]zxcv437 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

My only objection to that quote on obscenity is that it is referring to pornography

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope[M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yes, we know; however, the sentiment applies, we think.

[–]zxcv437 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Personally, (I can't vouch for anyone else's views) I'd argue it doesn't.

Pornography, while "arguable" is pretty clear cut. And yes can be clearly defined at a glance.

Racism, and race relations overall, are more difficult to manage. Which would be why it's a main argument point for the entire election. Unless I missed the porn debates and presentations, which in all reality sounds like a lot of fun to go to.

But what some people consider racism is just a inability to sense humor in something. If I were to say, a joke pertaining to African Americans and KFC, yeah, I might get a chuckle, about a dozen or so people would be uncomfortable, and an activist would probably stand up and berate me about my being racist, and wouldn't let me speak for half an hour while they ask me the same three questions without giving me a moment to answer.

The thing is, it's just a joke. If the most negative thing someone has to protest about is a ill mannered joke, then I'd say we're doing alright, since there are still people who think going into a church and shooting 9 people is okay. Then maybe some activists aren't fighting for the cause they should be fighting for.

Being that such a divide and fine tooth comb needs to be taken to something to clarify it, I wouldn't feel it's appropriate to try and include a quote on something that doesn't pertain to the subject.

[–]superherobeasley [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Huuhhhhh.... I'm pleased the mod has spoke out and their correct in what they are saying, but I have to agree the quote is out of context and you really should make your own statment or find a quote that directly applys to the situation.

That said seriously good on you for this sub is a reflection on Bernie and we need to act that way.

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Let me see what I can dig up...I may have just thought it was in the popular lexicon by now.

[–]DLiurro [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I mean, you can argue, but it's against a mod who just made strict (but good) rules who isn't going to reverse them. And the mods have the power to say something is obscene and, with good faith that they're protecting the respectability of their sub and looking out for the subbers, won't abuse the power.

[–]zxcv437 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Wasn't trying to argue just expressing my concern with the nature of the comment. I'm glad the new rules were announced.

[–]DLiurro [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I thought when you said "I'd argue" that you were against it.

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nah, he's using 'argue' in the debate sense, and I'm always up for a good debate.

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Allow me to respond without drawing a flowchart (as was my first inclination). Yes, it has to be done on a case by case basis. There is context that must be assessed. There are often patterns of behavior to be taken into consideration. The reason that the quote applies, in my mind, is that we are asking for the trust of the community to have the skills needed to assess on a case by case basis and respond appropriately. What you're describing is a wholly different than the person I've already banned this morning who came into the thread to post a racial slur, itself different from the person last night who was using a framework that had the potential for devolving into racist rhetoric with whom I had an informative discussion about how other people could be reading the argument. In the former case, a ban. In the latter, a discussion about message framing. Context is important. We are asking you to trust us to understand that.

[–]zxcv437 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I actually feel a flow chart would be most appropriate, but wouldn't request such.

I have all the faith in the appointed mods, and was just stating on how the use of the certain phrase didn't sit well.

Thanks for the clarification and Godspeed.

[–]DickyBrucks [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I've always liked the definition: "Language used to attack or demean individuals of a protected group based on their membership in that group"

[–]DragonflyRider [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I think that definition entirely empowers people of the protected group to engage in racism themselves with absolutely no stigma attached to it. Having been the victim of racism from a protected group, I find this to be entirely self serving, dishonest, and just as unfair as the racism towards the protected that we are trying to stamp out. Empowering any group to abuse any group should be our focus, not some people from some people.

[–]muricabitches [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well, "protected group" means any gender, race, etc. Both females and nales are protected groups. Mailman, however, would not be a protected group. So you can say "I hate mailmen" but not "I hate men".

I mean, what term would you use instead of "protected group"?

[–]DragonflyRider [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How about we get over the need to use terms like protected groups when it comes to bigotry and state the obvious: Using what someone is or chooses to be as a weapon to hurt them is wrong. I have no more control over the fact that I am a white male than I do the sun's rise. I am just as hurt by being treated badly as anyone else. To empower a minority group to abuse me due to my skin color is just as wrong as if I chose to abuse them.

There is a difference between protecting a demographic from abuse due to historical bad treatment, and empowering them to abuse anyone because they have been badly treated. Which is what is now expected of us by some on the left.

I do my best to empower those who have been abused, and so should we all. BUt I do not accept that because they have been the victim of discrimination they should now be empowered to discriminate. This is not tit for tat. This is all rise together.

[–]squaresarerectangles [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Protected Group

A protected group is a group of people qualified for special protection by a law, policy, or similar authority.

The term in fact does not apply to any group of person. It applies to select groups as defined by law.

[–]dabezian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Of course there is stigma attached to it. The distinction is that they can't organize a mass brigade of the class that controls social discourse and policy making. Hence "protected class."

It's like saying police should be allowed to indiscriminately kill civilians because some civilians indiscriminately kill police.

The power hierarchy is the distinction between the two classes, and a class of more inherent power is subject to more restrictions to protect the general good.

[–]writingtossLeslie Knope [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's interesting, to be sure, but the problem is then one of determining what language is and isn't that. Some cases are obvious. Some cases are far far less so.

Sadly, until I am appointed Arbiter of the English Language, there will never be a complete and comprehensive list of that agreed upon by all parties. I applied once, but they told me 'that doesn't exist' and 'stop contacting the Oxford University Press.'

[–]malicart -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

When people have to ask me what is racist on game servers I tend to just want to ban them for life right there. You cannot tell me you dont know what is racist just like you cant tell me you didn't think taking that candy bar from the store wasn't bad. Humans inherently understand good and bad just like they do ugly and beauty. They just choose to ignore what they know.

[–]TurielD -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know that that's a very good answer. According to some protesters, Bernie is racist. They are wrong, but not by the standard you're advocating.

[–]NitroxiumSouth America 71ポイント72ポイント  (13子コメント)

Thank you mods :) /r/all looks very ugly right now, but I hope this subreddit can keep being a little haven amongst the dark dark troll pit that is Reddit sometimes.

[–]BernforBernie 56ポイント57ポイント  (3子コメント)

Omg, yes. I have been avoiding the front page all day because of how much hate and harassment BLM movement and members are getting. Some posts are comparing Bernie getting interrupted by a protester, to african american's getting harassed by white people back in the day... it's so damn shameful. Glad this sub is not like the front page.

[–]zoidboix 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not just reddit. Imgur had its own share of disparaging user submitted posts. One of them blatantly said the activists reinforced his racist views and that post was up voted to the front page

[–]NitroxiumSouth America 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

Somebody really wants BLM and Bernie to hate each other... Divide and conquer, I suppose. Let's not let them, we will unite. #WeStandTogether

[–]michel_v 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

More simple explanation: racists happy to find a way to let their hate be legitimized.

[–]macsenscam 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree that this isn't a coincidence, anyone can google Sanders and see for themselves that he is involved in civil rights struggles.

[–]DragonflyRider [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't think it is a matter of wanting Bernie and BLM to hate each other. I think it is a matter of BLM disrepsecting Bernie, and the people who went to that event to hear Bernie. If BLM wants air time let them talk to Bernie and arrange for air time, not jump up and be obnoxious and take over the event. It was obnoxious and did not win them many friends. It is not racist to say that someone's actions were poor exhibits of rational and helpful behavior. These people acted like clowns. If they were white I would still say they acted like clowns. Being a protected group doesn't give one the tacit privalige of poor behavior.

[–]itsparaTimelord - The Doctor 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

We shall try!

[–]quellesiSouth Carolina - Bernie Squad - Cadet 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yikes I didn't realize how bad it was. What a hot mess. Stay classy Berniacs

[–]NawThatsAight 57ポイント58ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was unsure about Bernie, but the positivity, maturity, and enthusiasm produced by this sub made me read up on Bernie and decide to become a rabid supporter. I'm proud that we aren't tolerating injustice and intolerance of any kind, even on an online platform. Kudos, mods.

[–]Bernieisouronlyhope 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's an amazing feeling being part of this moment. It feels, to me, like election night 2008 every time he speaks. Thank you for your support :-) Mods did a smashing job the last two days. I am new to Reddit as a contributor and this is the r/ that got me to join. Can't wait for new heights. (I have gone to a Reddit meeting in Seattle before funny enough)

[–]ChefBoyAreWeFucked [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You heard it here first folks: Bernie Sanders is giving people rabies.

[–]Msmit71 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

I disagree with the actions of the protesters but you're making the right decisions. This shouldn't be an opportunity for Stormfront to coopt Bernie any more than those two did.

[–]ubershtik [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

For those who are interested, here is MLK's letter from a Birmingham jail (http://www.uscrossier.org/pullias/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/king.pdf).

Firstly, it's an amazing historical primary source. Secondly, and perhaps more relevantly, it speaks of the "white moderate" who "constantly says, 'I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action.'"

[–]i_pee_in_the_sink 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

According to Bernie's Twitter it was 28,000

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@BernieSanders

2015-08-10 04:05 UTC

Portland set the record tonight as 28,000 showed up for our rally. The momentum is nothing less than extraordinary. http://bernie.to/RecordInPortland


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[–]quellesiSouth Carolina - Bernie Squad - Cadet 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Proud to be part of one of the more civilized corners of the internet. Bravo mods!

[–]icaitoVirginia - Bernie Squad - Corporal 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

WeoooooooooStandTogether

SandersCoyote2016

[–]mexicodude908Pennsylvania 14ポイント15ポイント  (9子コメント)

Wait will LA actually be bigger?!

[–]Vermonty_PythonMayor Quimby[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

I can only imagine. Second most populous city in America. Six times larger than Seattle, and seven times larger than Portland.

[–]mexicodude908Pennsylvania 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

I thought the venue was only able to hold up to 16,ooo people though no? If it is bigger than 20,000 people this early in the primary season...I think everyone in the news will just be silent for 24 hours out of just absolutely dumbfoundedness

[–]Three_If_By_TARDISMassachusetts 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was moved to the Moda center, which has an official capacity of 19,980, and it was packed, with crowds standing outside. They're estimating 22,000.

And I wouldn't be surprised if the mainstream movement is silent for longer than 24 hours, considering how silent they've been so far...

[–]neutral_milk_patelNorth Carolina 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Moda Center attendance was reported to be about 28,000 now!

[–]WhatIsThePlan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or enthusiastically focusing on other events.

[–]neutral_milk_patelNorth Carolina 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Portland got 28,000 people according to the campaign!

[–]Staffatwork 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only problem is that it is at 7pm on Monday, traffic will be less than it is at 6pm but it still will be terrible. It really should have been on a weekend.

[–]jmedoom 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everything in LA always comes back to the traffic! ;-) I agree though, that he weekend would have been a lot better. Although, I bet it will still be a large, large turnout. This campaign keeps exceeding my expectations!

[–]fridaymikeOhio 59ポイント60ポイント  (10子コメント)

For those who have been asking. Here's a rather short--but not necessarily sweet--answer.
"This is what white people can do to support #BlackLivesMatter"

EDITED to add the last, maybe most applicable, quote:

“Stop acting like black people are stupid.”

We are politically savvy. And black women especially have a higher voter turnout than anyone else. No candidate can win without black women, yet a bunch of black women stood up and expressed their feelings on an issue that is literally killing our people and white progressives are acting like they were a bunch of uppity Negroes who didn’t know their place… These are young people who are learning as they go. Every movement has growing pains. I’ve seen too many people who are writing off their efforts because they don’t think the effort is being organized in the right way. That is not helpful. White allies need to give these young people space to grow, space to fail, space to learn. And they need to amplify their voices.”

[–]typical_pubbie 37ポイント38ポイント  (2子コメント)

These are young people who are learning as they go. Every movement has growing pains. I’ve seen too many people who are writing off their efforts because they don’t think the effort is being organized in the right way. That is not helpful. White allies need to give these young people space to grow, space to fail, space to learn. And they need to amplify their voices.”

I agree with the sentiment and am against blaming BLM as a whole for the actions of a few. But in practice this kind of rationale is all too often used to shut down any criticism of wrongdoing. The behavior of those two activists was extremely rude and disruptive. They deserve to be criticized. The problem comes when people take their criticism too far, which is seen as a golden opportunity by racists and trolls to take advantage of the anger and confusion to pile on with hatred. That kind of behavior needs to be called out. But so does screaming in people's faces and derailing an event.

[–]atomsk404 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I have to agree with this. Abject hatred over what they did is wrong...However, constructive criticism is valid and based on their actions, required.

[–]sailortitanVermont - Bernie Squad - Private First Class [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

/agree. Young white asshole activists aren't (and shouldn't) be given "room to grow" when they're acting inappropriately. When kids of any color are acting like jerks, it's the duty of mature adults to firmly (but respectfully) redirect their anger and energy. (and no, I'm not saying activism should never be disruptive, only that this particular action was not productive.)

[–]wordwordwordwordwordTexas 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

"What we’re saying right now is that all lives will actually matter when black lives matter — and black lives don’t matter right now. So we need to say black lives matter to change that. We need to change that individually, we need to change that within our communities and we need to change that systemically."

[–]dabezian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Say what you want about their actions, however rude and militant they were, they got a mainstream presidential candidate to directly address their grievances.

That's why they targeted Bernie. Because Bernie would respond in full force. Just look at the new page on his website. Of course he's always held these beliefs but now it's very clear that he will fight for them.

[–]DragonflyRider [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't think black people are stupid. But I think these people acted stupidly. There is a difference. Bernie's response definitely took the higher road, thank goodness. It showed he's got nimble feet when it comes to trouble. If anything this helped cement his status as a presidential candidate to be reckoned with.

[–]BernforBernie 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome. This needs to be in it's own thread so more people will read it.

[–]neutral_milk_patelNorth Carolina 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for posting this, I learned some new things. Still trying to figure out how best I can help BLM as a white person.

[–]KnightsforBernie 19ポイント20ポイント  (5子コメント)

I was waiting for this to happen. Honestly I'm surprised we made it this far with 76+ thousand subs. We've been enjoying the non-attention here partly because people didn't see Bernie as a threat. I see this being a bigger deal once the other candidates realize that they're losing the "Internet war". I don't envy the mods. You're doing the Bern's work. Stay strong!

[–]BernforBernie 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's about to get more attention. Bernie is trending on facebook again, this time about the huge rally tonight. This sub might need a few more mods at the rate things are going :D

[–]KnightsforBernie 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well there seems to be a lot of people "for Bernie" that would be willing to pitch in!

[–]Vermonty_PythonMayor Quimby[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

New mod-candidates will have to fight to the death in a 64-person battle royale. Winner gets to be bossed around by /u/irrationaltsunami all day.

[–]IrrationalTsunamiStrategic Operations Officer - Lt. Worf 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The other 63 will be mine... for eternity.

[–]KnightsforBernie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm too valuable for Knights for Bernie at UCF to die in battle. I'm the VP and I don't have a VVP. Btw Vermonty check us out on Facebook and like our page! We're doing the Bern's work.

[–]JoePragmatistMinnesota 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think what makes Reddit an interesting place is what also makes it infuriating at times, its wild and unregulated nature. While I'm not exactly happy about the protesters interrupting Bernie, the punchablefaces reaction is beyond the fucking pale. These two ladies simply don't deserve that kind of hate and it reflects badly on us when this stuff happens, whether or not we're behind it(which I don't believe we are, for the most part anyway).

That being said I'm in awe of what the mods of this place do. I've been a part of a few really well run communities online and this place is one of them.

[–]sailortitanVermont - Bernie Squad - Private First Class [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Here here!

[–]historianish [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm a member of Triangle for Bernie in North Carolina and recently joined Reddit to be involved with this awesome Bernie community. (So, don't really know what I'm doing on here yet...) We have a team working on a guide to help educate Bernie supporters on how to be better allies to BLM on social media. It should be finished by the end of the day. We'll share it w/ Reddit if there's interest!

[–]HilbertSpaceCadet 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Came here from /r/bestof, am on the fence about Bernie, but am so impressed with your response that I subscribed. Seriously great work.

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[–]steev506 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This type of cool-headed behavior made me want to sub.

[–]XtReMe_XYZ 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am proud to be a part of those who share psotivity for our country. I welcome those who disagree but please do it with respect and we as a community will do the same. And for those of us who are being insulting to others, please cut it out. This is a mature community filled with tens of thousands of diverse peoole who want to discuss the future of our country. Let's keep it that way. Let's remain focus! #Bernie2016

[–]Legionof7California - Bernie Squad - Cadet 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

I completely agree. Instead of having a mindset like, "How can I criticize them, or "How can I show that I am better than them" think, "How can they help our cause?" This way, we can get more supporters, which in turn creates more voters. In addition, it's just the kind thing to do. The type of thing that Bernie stands for.

[–]wordwordwordwordwordTexas 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or- How can we help each other's causes?

[–]80081357 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

We have the SAME cause... I don't get why everyone has to put themselves first. We are in this together.

[–]kpcratMaryland 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first step to them supporting our cause is us supporting theirs. I saw a fantastic anecdote on here about early gay rights activists being hugely supportive of a coal miners' strike and ever after the coal miners were supporters of they're movement

[–]Titanium_Expose 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mature and Redditors are words that seldom go together. The woman who forced Mr Sanders from the stage was wrong, but the reaction by Redditors was juvenile. I'm glad that the mods here have taken a higher-road to all of this.

[–]egosub2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bernie's not my guy, because I don't have a guy, but these mods are the realest in real.

[–]GingerGerneralNixon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You guys are doing a fantastic job here and i gotta say i completely agree with this decision and hope you guys dont back down. I love this sub i may not be that active but i read every day keep up the good work

[–]localafrican [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was linked here from /r/bestof and I want to thank you for this post. I can't tell you how refreshing it is to actually see a sub that's against all the racism that's been on the front page. Bernie is an excellent candidate that was interrupted by two ignorant women who know nothing of his history. What's even sadder is that there are thousands of equally ignorant people on this website who feel much more confident about saying what they want since they are anonymous. Stay awesome

[–]Tapputi [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I live in Canada, but I believe that I have convinced two Americans to fly down specifically for your election. We'll make a party of it . <3

[–]sailortitanVermont - Bernie Squad - Private First Class [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They can absentee vote I believe ;)

[–]PapaJohnStamos 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thank you for this, seems like this event is being used by Reddit as an excuse/opportunity to be massively racist and hateful.

[–]invertedearth [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Slow down, there. Reddit is not doing anything. This attitude is a big problem on the site. The reddit community is composed of distinct individuals, all of whom follow their own agenda. Reddit is a company, a website and a service. It is not perfect, but it is a very useful tool. When individuals around here start being offensive/threatening, we should view it just as we would if they were obnoxious drunks at a football game, say. Just because one group of Tennessee fans behaves terribly, we should not say that Tennessee sucks and leave the game. Rather, we should enlist the support of the entire community, including the sane, sober Tennessee fans (yes, both of them) to properly regulate our civic space.

Reddit is not doing anything bad. Some rude people are using our forum in ways we don't like. It is our duty to police those places that we value. Go mods!

[–]jackster1232002 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can you please explain how reddit is using the event as an excuse/opportunity to be "racist". Please use examples.

From what I've gathered is just an online community giving grievance to a small group of individuals for their actions. Race and gender aside I feel like they have a right to be pissed as they've topedoed a planned event to the ground; not the first time might I add:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/29/black-lives-matter-protesters-disrupt-chicago-gay-pride-parade/

I have yet to see any serious comments stating "black lives do not matter" Nor have I see anyone started screen printing T shirts that says "Sipping on Black Tears" Reference just in case you aren't sure what I'm talking about:

http://i.imgur.com/t1iMhtD.jpg

Reddit hasn't demanded a moment of silence for an arbitrary 4.5 minutes for to put an animal on a pedestal that robbed a convenience store and attacked the police when they attempted to arrest them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Michael_Brown

[–]sh1reAlabama 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks mod's you're incredible. We couldn't do it without you. Let's continue to shine light and positivity into the situation, everyone!

[–]JabbaThePizzaHuttArizona 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Keep up the good work Mayor!

[–]Applemacbookpro 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

BRAVO Mods! Keep your awesome work! FeelTheBern!

[–]NinmaBernie Squad - Private 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you mods for all the work you do to keep this subreddit an amazing place to be!

[–]TheJmaster 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keep up the good work everyone! We can do this #Bernie2016!

[–]RedErin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're awesome. Thanks.

[–]Japan_be_crazy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can someone explain to me what happen?

[–]tokyoburns [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think this sub could have done more to keep people up to date on who these two women are. I know they worked tirelessly in the mega thread but mega threads are only informative in a very passive way. In other words people have to search did the correct information. Posting updates in titles would have done a lot more as it is an active way to inform the community.

These two women represent a insignificant portion of BLM and it could probably be argued that they don't represent it at all. They are border line anarchist ultra-christian conservative Sarah Palin supporters from a group called "outside agitators 206". If you look around the internet most (I would say 99%) of BLM supporters do not agree with what these women did.

I think that represents a critical failure on our part to be informed and to spread information.

Once again a large white community has let a diverse group of black people take the blame for the radical actions of a few. Its not enough to say "we don't support racism! Peace and love everybody!" You have to battle the constant spread of ignorance or else you do support racism whether you are trying to or not. Without an active campaign to separate these two women from the rest of BLM we are being complacent in the spread of ignorance.

[–]sundance7 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Only been here for a couple of weeks, but I, too, wish to congratulate the moderators of Sanders for President as well as express kudos to all involved. We must elect this good man!

[–]nj4ckEurope 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you get brigading/trolling coming in waves and seemingly out of nowhere, it's usually an astroturf attack.

[–]ArrrGaming 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry about Seattle, everybody.

[–]wordwordwordwordwordTexas 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know it all looks like just a bunch of needless embarrassing drama on the surface, but I think this has been a positive thing overall.

Despite a very small, loud, and thoughtless percentage of both the #BLM movement and the #Sanders2016 movement engaging in divisive nonsense, underneath all of that some real discussions have been taking place that would not have otherwise. Discussions which I believe will ultimately bring the two movements closer together, therefore strengthening both of them.

[–]Sneakstir 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

All this has done is brought Sanders to the attention of black people who saw the man respectfully agree and let activists speak. You guys know like, we gotta talk to black people about this stuff, right?

[–]__DeadP00l_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

TL;DR My Fellow Americans Redditors, stop being Assholes, Bernie has shown with his conduct how we should conduct ourselves in a shameful situation, with grace and dignity, all you have to do is follow his lead.

[–]BoBabColorado - Bernie Squad - Cadet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As a black dude (tired of saying this), there are few places I feel comfortable on reddit and as for a large sub this is as close as it gets for me. Sincere thanks, mods!

[–]sayitinmygoodear [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Forget racism, the focus should be getting his lax ass security detail to pull their heads out of their asses. Anyone who tries to rush a presidential candidate, especially on stage at a rally, should be on the ground with a few big guys on top of them before they even get close. If they are going to be afraid to act just because the idiots rushing them are black, then they need to be replaced for the sake of safety.

[–]jr_G-man [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Once again, reddit showing that it only matters if one side is offended.

[–]yaavsp [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I agree with all of this. Let's just get one thing straight, those two women were not activists in any sense.

[–]infinity_QE [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Do you guys know who you are standing together against? You do realize that intelligence agency contractors--like Edward Snowden was before he became a patriot--are very likely behind this, right? It came to light that the intelligence agencies are hiring brigades of goons in social media (HBGARY) because of anonymous and the journalist Barrett Brown in 2011. You think they stopped?

I worked at a tech company in colorado and one day the CEO had a meeting to make us all create fake social media accounts to boost the SEO for all the client companies by tweeting and facebook liking them. It was disgusting but we were required to do it. Now imagine you had a defense contractor but they were in the domain of disruption and culture-jamming political enemies....that's what you have now. Sanders is an outlier and subvert who threatens their pie, their too powerful social order.