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[–]TheCodexx40k GET! 127ポイント128ポイント  (13子コメント)

I'm not sorry. We don't turn on others and bully them, and they have the nerve to call us "the problem".

I don't know where they'll feel accepted. I don't care. But it's not gaming. They can walk.

[–]Loftyz47 41ポイント42ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't feel the need for gaming to be 'inclusive'. It's not inclusive or exclusive, it just exists, like real life. If you were to die today, society would continue without you, as if you were never needed in the first place, and gaming is the same.

If you don't feel welcomed, consider what you are bringing to the table. I made 5 MKWii clans over 4 years & played hundreds of competitive clan wars, and had no trouble fitting in. I don't see it as a problem if people who bring nothing to the community have trouble fitting in. I just don't care. Don't feel entitled to a space; earn it or make it yourself. Git gud, make videos, join discussions, speedrun, organise events, or join/start a clan ffs.

Accomplish things, in gaming and real life, and if your sudden or eventual departure would make at least 1 person in that community stop and mourn, that's how you know you belonged.

[–]GoonZL 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Too triggering, this post.

[–]Loftyz47 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't expect people whose lives are consumed by escapism from their trauma - through safe spaces, trigger warnings, & repressive tolerance - to agree with me. These are not coping mechanisms; all they do is turn the "triggering" issue into an elephant in the room whom you ignore, even while he weighs down on your shoulders and slowly crushes you.

[–]GoonZL 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why you keep trigger me? :'(

[–]RobbieGee 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're a gun, Harry.

[–]poko610 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've felt this for a long time. There is no real need to make gaming more "inclusive". I didn't start playing games because it was inclusive. I just started playing. Most people who play games didn't join because it was inclusive. They just started playing.

In the immortal words of Nahtzee, "If the process of playing a game isn't fun for you, well maybe you're not a gamer".

[–]Agkistro13 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Inclusiveness is bullshit anyway. It's not like the SJW's are pushing for games that celebrate the culture of the rural American south, or openly-Christian protagonists, or games that take place in times and places where everybody was white. They got a very specific list of who should be included and what should be promoted, and who should be shit on at every opportunity.

[–]plasmacutter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you were to die today, society would continue without you

I had just liquidated all of my assets with the plan of putting an end to the status quo by killing myself tomorrow, and now I hear this revelation.

FUCK!

damn you Loftyz47... DAMN YOU!!!

[–]FSMhelpusall 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

They can be accepted in gaming. If they put down the divisive, hateful identity politics and play games.

[–]wowww_ 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

They are the bullies though. And they will never fit in.

[–]pacmanswang 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bullies can change. People are incredibly flexible given time and space.

[–]GoonZL 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Forgive me if I don't share your optimism.

[–]StickAroundDylan[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel you. A lot of us are in the same boat here. That's why I'm hoping they realize it too.

[–]AngryArmour 81ポイント82ポイント  (7子コメント)

Here's the thing, far too many of them aren't your peers. They are not the ones who were bullied, they were the bullies, and what they seek is not a safe space from bullying, but to continue bullying.

Now, you found refuge among games. You found a place you could hide from your bullies (I'm assuming from your post). How do you think your bullies would have reacted if they found a way to reach you even there? To ensure that you had no escapism, no way to avoid them, but had to be under their thumb 24/7? Because that's their goal.

Gaming was built by the outcasts and the maligned, and goddamn did we build it. It's a fucking major industry because of us, and now the bullies want in. Now it's cool, now it's hip, and that means that everything we built is no longer acceptable. "Gaming has to change", "Gaming has to grow up", "Gaming is sick and we are the cure", that is what they say about escapism. That is what they say about the subculture we built ourselves, because we weren't wanted elsewhere.

We were thrown out, but we didn't take the punishment lying down. We didn't demand "safespaces", we built safespaces. We made our safespace a multi-billion industry. And it is those safespaces they want to tear down.

While I also emphasize with those among the SJWs who are that way because they felt like they didn't belong anywhere else, I want to make one thing very clear. AntiGG does not support the bullied. Remember two quotes, and remember them well, because they form a fundamental core of what GG is about:

"Ultimately #GamerGate is reaffirming what we’ve known to be true for decades: nerds should be constantly shamed and degraded into submission" and "Bring back bullying".

That is the face of AntiGG. AntiGG is an effort to take away the safe space nerds built. That is why we need to fight. That is why for as much as I want rational discourse and peaceful resolution, Sam Biddle is a fucking cancerous growth. For as much I emphasize with a desire for everyone to just get along, I will celebrate the day Sam Biddle dies unmourned and unloved to drug overdose because he became a junkie to escape his homelessness.

It is human to have flaws, and one flaw on my part I'm both willing to admit and accept, is that I will be giddy with joy should Sam Biddle life fall into the utmost of tatters. Because he deserves it. AntiGG is not fellow bullied who want to progress beyond it and create a world without it, they are bullied who never got over the power rush they got from bullying, or bullied who want to join the cool kids and become the bullies now.

Fuck them, fuck them long and fuck them hard, because GG is here, and it's here's to throw them out of gaming, and if being thrown out of indie games and journalism ruins their life because they've lost their jobs, well that's just a bonus.

[–]nopeer_ 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

or bullied who want to join the cool kids

I think this is the nail on the head.

[–]Karmaze 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just to add on to this.

A lot of the lack of knowing about this issue stems from a fundamental limitation on what we think bullying is. When we think of bullying, we traditionally think of the Nelson Muntz type character, you know, the person who takes out their frustrations of their own problems on other people.

That's not the only type of bullying however.

What we're learning to look more for these days is what is called social bullying. And that's a completely different animal altogether. First of all, it's generally done by a group or even a community. And the people who do it tend to be personally well off. They're happy and successful, for the most part. So why do they do it?

They're enforcing social/cultural norms. They're taking people that for one reason or another are violating those norms, and they're using social pressure in order to get them to step back in line. That's what social bullying is. And yes, kids KILL themselves because of it. When you see that happen in one of these cases, I will guarantee you it's not individual bullying it's social bullying. If it's individual bullying, you go to the administration, the bully might get suspended or expelled, as generally the victim has more social power than the perpetrator.

But in social bullying...

Yes, the perpetrators have MUCH more social power than the victim. So nothing really can be done...in fact what often happens is that the administration is part of the problem, part of the bullying.

Now many of you probably have figured it out...SJW culture relies on social bullying. It's about using social pressure/violence in order to enforce what they see as social/cultural norms, or at least what should be the norms.

So yeah. It's the same thing, just a different flavor.

[–]GoonZL 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Somebody sticky this.

I don't generally wish harm upon others, I won't shed a tear if they don't live a happy and fulfilling life though.

[–]Combustible_Cucumber 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

These idiots really fucked up the day they decided to come after us, one of the most inclusive and dedicated communities you could find. I can walk into any EB games and feel at home because of how great us gamers are, I spent half an hour once in EB with just some complete stranger discussing Pokémon teams.

[–]imthepusherman 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of the AGGros' main objectives is to kick nerds and geeks back into the closet.

[–]poornose 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They made their bed, now they can get fucked in it.

[–]McMuffinKing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The enforced safe space is nought but a polite tyranny where the Hammer, Sickle, Swastika, Sig rune and Fasces are replaced by the Upvote, Snoo and lowercase t.

[–]DwarfGate 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why the fuck would you be sorry? These people have done unforgivable things. They've attacked rape victims for refusing to blame all men for their rape. They've called in fake bite attacks to have peoples' pets euthanized for disagreeing with them. They've attacked charities because they were ordered to by their cultist superiors.

Anything bad that happens to them is well deserved and then some.

[–]TheForceIsWeakWithTh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They've called in fake bite attacks to have peoples' pets euthanized for disagreeing with them.

Source?

[–]anunnaturalselection 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good effort but most of these people are too far gone, they're too entangled in their own facade to escape now, so they'll dig their heels in deeper and become even more full of hatred...

[–]Gnokey 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I find it hard to muster any sympathy for self-righteous cunts.

[–]pignoah 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't apolagise to those cunts, post this on gamer ghazi and see how fast they tear you apart.

[–]GoonZL 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly.

These people don't realize the error of their ways. Worse even, they feel abnormally self-righteous about it which is the reason why they actually feel good doing the vile things they do. They have no problem kicking someone while down. In fact, it seems like a favorite pastime of theirs.

Religious fanatics they are.

[–]Wedran123 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stop. Stop trying to appease the the bully. It never works. The only way to stop a bully is to stand up to him.

And these people, most definetly, are the bullies. They haven't been "oppressed" their whole lives, they've probably lived in their fucking two story America suburb houses, buying fancy shit with daddy and mommy's money. They didn't get bullied in school, even if they did, they probably told everyone the bully raped them, and he ended up in fucking prison.

You don't make a deal with the devil, son.

[–]AspsVeryDangerous 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're sociopaths, fuck them

[–]TheHebrewHammers 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

I wish you would step back from that ledge my friend Cut ties with all the lies that you've been living in...

[–]HailRobonia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they don't want see any of us again, I would understand.

[–]Wylanderuk 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Or take 2 sharp steps forward...I really don't care which anymore...

[–]Wedran123 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Goobergrape sending death threats to wymynz!

[–]Wylanderuk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like to think of it as more of a firm suggestion...

[–]CHIM_ERA 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't feel a fucking whit of sympathy for SJW's.

I've been bullied for an upward of 12 years, to the point where I was genuinely ashamed to show my face in my own fucking home, but I never, and I do mean never took out my personal feelings on ANYONE else.

I don't fucking care how "institutionally oppressed" these people feel, that's no fucking excuse for the way they behave. You don't fucking release someones private information and accuse them of harassment simply for disagreeing with you about cleavage in video games. The fact that SJW's genuinely need this explained to them makes them repugnant enough.

And let's take a look at the type of people we have on the SJW side of things.

"H-hey everyone. If you see any child porn on 8chan, let me know. It's totally to prove GamerGate are evil. It's not for me at all." heavy nervous laughter

"Hey, so I find it so fucking frustrating my dog won't remain erect while I'm blowing him. Tips? Tricks? GamerGate is harrasing me 24/7."

"Hold on for a second, I've just gotta go infantalize myself infront of congress after getting caught psychologically abusing my boyfriend and fucking to further my career.

Forgive me for /pol/ing out here. But they're fucking degenerates

[–]nonplayer 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

If my House of Cards marathon taught me anything (lol, sorry), is that its all about money and power. You guys need to stop putting everything on a personal level, like sjw are evil people who woke up someday thinking how they are going to upset people today, or that they really need to play a game with fat people where no one shoots no one and you win by donating blood. Come on, lets be smart here.

Its money. Kotaku, anita, zoe, that one guy, all these pink haired people, its all about making money and being on top of the "moral compass". All those patreon accounts arent for nothing. Fight the good fight, but dont lose your sleep over these things.

[–]agitomega 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

you can sympathise with them or forgive them even but never ever apologize to them.

[–]MrQuiggles 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

WELL YOU'RE WHITE AND STRAIGHT SO THIS INVALIDATES YOUR ARGUMENT.

/s

[–]niczar 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

But that happened to me too. I got beat bullied and hurt. At home, at school, and everywhere else. Lots of crappy things. It happened. And there's nothing I can do about it unfortunately.

LOL #maletears

^ is what feminists would say to you

[–]throwaway7575751 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand why gaming has to be seen as inclusive or exclusive in the first place. Just pick up the damn game and play.

[–]I4dcQsEpLzTHvD1qhlDE 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey SJWs. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for the pain you feel and the fact that you feel you don't belong. I'm sorry about the people who denigrated you and threw you under the bus.

That didn't happen to most of them. SJWs are not who they are because someone picked on them. They are who they are because they have deep feelings of inferiority.

[–]kaalaaaa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well written OP.

[–]mnemosyne-0000#BotYourShield / https://i.imgur.com/6X3KtgD.jpg 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Archive links for this post:


I am Mnemosyne, goddess of memory. I remember so you don't have to.

[–]sexy_mofo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

SJWs spend too much time and energy living vicariously through other people's real (or imagined) past injustices and hardships. If there are no actual issues, they will manufacture one and sit there crying about it, because growing up and operating in the world like a mature adult scares the shit out of them.

I read through an article gghazi posted about "Video Games Are Utterly Failing Trans Gamers & It’s Time We Did Something About It." 90% of the article basically boils down to this:

THERE AIN'T ENOUGH TRANS IN VIDEO GAMES

I MEAN, REALLY, THERE AINT ENOUGH TRANS IN VIDEO GAMES

DUDE

DUDE

WHAT THE FUCK, DUDE

THERE AIN'T ENOUGH TRANS IN VIDEO GAMES, DUDE COME ON

CORAL

And then at the very end they get to what I assume is the "It’s Time We Did Something About It" part, and this is all it pretty much boiled down to:

*W-well we...we kinda just...g-gotta start putting more trans in video games...or somethin'"

...While listing a bunch of stuff that I guess they expected other people to drop everything and do for them. Some developers will, some will not. Since it has been made abundantly clear that will never be adequate enough, why not then step up and make those moves themselves if they think there is such a deficit? It always comes back to coattail-riding established entities rather than doing the work and building new ones from the ground up. And it's always about trying to shame and shit all over any established entity if they do not wish to let you ride their coattails. It's about constantly wording things like "You're a shitlord company filled with white CISHET shitlord devlopers who doesn't care about us...now listen to what we have to say ;3" and honestly expecting those people to want to fucking work with you after that.

[–]crystalflash 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

These SJWs aren't ones who were ever bullied. They are just political activists and opportunists who latched on various subcultures back when gamers and comic geeks and the like fought against right-wing establishment and censorship. Ever since the Republicans lost the US presidency and the right-wing lost their battles against gaming, those who latched on decided they would push their own rules onto these subcultures and flush out the undesirables.

[–]doofy102 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're too good for this place, OP.

[–]mechdemon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only thing a bully understands is power and fear. They hit you, you hit them harder. They inflict pain, you inflict more pain. It's the only way.

[–]Polygros 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TLDR : Dear SJWs, YOU are the ones that need to GROW UP.

[–]Kaarous 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're not the enemy.

You might not be. I absolutely am their enemy. To hell with each and every one of them, as far as I'm concerned.

[–]Fenrir007 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is my letter to SJWs:

Hey SJWs,

I'm not sorry. For anything. You are as important to me as a fat stack of bison dollars in the USA. I don't care about you being accepted or your safe spaces. I don't care about your salty tears or childish tantrums. I don't care about your triggers or your inability to fit in general society. I don't care about your sad past. I don't care about YOU.

The thing I do care about is gaming, and that means opposing you full Steam ahead.

See you on the trenches.

[–]Daedelous2k -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're oppressing them.