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submitted by AmericanHistoryAFBBRed Dirt Road
I say this because I go on there and I rarely see any posts about Nice GIRLS. I saw one on there today which got me thinking...this sub is making fun of men. They're attacking men, and rarely women. The sub is called NiceGUYS, not NicePEOPLE, but NiceGUYS, which nobody thinks about. I searched for /r/Nicegirls and there is nothing. Apparently, it's ok to criticize men for being Nice assholes, but when /r/TheRedPill criticizes women for being assholes, we're the scum of the earth.
I'm not saying /r/NiceGUYS is a bad sub or anything, but I am saying that it just goes to show how OK it is to attack men in our society, but when you shift the balance unto women like TRP does, the men over there are criticized even more.
Pussy pass is a real thing, and if you go to the /r/Niceguys sub (/r/NiceGUYS, NOT NiceGIRLS, because it doesn't exist) you'll see what I mean.
It's absolutely ok to shame men for being too nice and they are the scum of the earth. They don't know what they're doing is supplicating, and people shame them for following the nice guy narrative.
But you just can't call out women for their bullshit, like ever.
If you could, then /r/Niceguys should be considered toxic just like /r/TheRedPill is, and you know it.
Rant over.
all 72 comments
[–]HappilySingleWomanNo Pill 16 points17 points18 points  (9 children)
Well , it is indeed mean . I don't like how they make fun of individuals who are probably socially awkward .
That being said, if we're talking about what subreddit is more "mean" then /r/TheRedPill definitely takes the cake . There are claims there that women are manipulative psychopaths, insane , unempathetic , backward retards who crave abuse and despise goodness and that they shouldn't get to vote or make decisions about their lives .
[–]RU_Crazy 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
In a sense the tone on the nice guy sub validates a lot of what is said on TRP. It's not about being nice. It's about the truth.
[–]Lite-brite 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
There are claims there that women are manipulative psychopaths, insane , unempathetic , backward retards who crave abuse and despise goodness and that they shouldn't get to vote or make decisions about their lives .
Theres evidence to the contrary?
All jokes aside, this is an sincere question, what percentage of men do you think will regularly recieve treatment from women like that in r/niceguys? Would you say its crazy to assume 80% of guys have sexual and/or romantic interactions with women that are variations of what you see on r/niceguys?
[–]HappilySingleWomanNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
the /r/niceguys are not treated like that because they're "nice", they act entitled .
Would you say its crazy to assume 80% of guys have sexual and/or romantic interactions with women that are variations of what you see on r/niceguys?
the 80/20 thing is a made up statistic, I don't know how many men receive this kind of treatment in real life , but 80% seems like an exaggeration to me.
[–]Plugawy_Nedznik 12 points13 points14 points  (2 children)
the /r/niceguys are not treated like that because they're "nice", they act entitled .
No, the "entitled nice guy" is a myth created by feminists to rationalize why nice guys - men who put all of their relationship advice into practice, who are supposedly perfect mates - somehow can never get relationships.
"See, because they aren't really nice, they just pretend to be!"
Aside from the obvious stench of conspiracy theory, this argument doesn't even make sense in its premise:
  • From the male side, no guy ever got laid by being a doormat, it's simply not a viable sexual strategy. So why would all these men pretend to be doormats to get laid? You are telling me all these average guys lower their SMV in order to get girls? Does this make any sense to you?
  • From the female side, you cannot tell the difference between a genuinely nice guy and one that is just pretending to be nice. So all the fake Nice Guys should still be getting laid - at least once, until they go "Ha-HA!" and drop their disguise leaving the woman broken and crying and her goldfish dead. And yet even that never happens. (I guess the next feminist hamster is going to be "See, we're just too smart to get into relationships with men that are everything a woman could want", you go gurls)
[–]cuponoodlesisbackNon-Red Pill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Nice guys are often entitled though. They develop interest in a woman romantically solely based on superficial qualities (i.e. looks) but expect women to value them for their niceness and great personality.
Literally all my former orbiters were unattractive guys who ignored women in their league. I see the same thing with my friends.
[–]HappilySingleWomanNo Pill -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
It's not a complete myth . There are several people who think they deserve stuff just because they act "nice" .
[–]Lite-brite 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Its not a statistic, its a concept that helps explain why most activities, a small minority dominates.
Just like hard core TRP'ers, hard core feminists say these men make women feel uncomfortable so they must somehow deserve the treatment they get. The idea youre/theyre not contributing to same angry, internet mob that has polluted civil discourse and is helping to destroy empathy is ridiculous. No reasonto say "but the TRP.." its all the same.
[–]AmericanHistoryAFBBRed Dirt Road[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
You're right HSW, /r/TheRedPill MAY be slightly worse. I think you should ignore the claims you don't like on TRP and focus on the positives- self improvement, positive masculinity, positive femininity, etc.
Niceguys makes fun of socially awkward MEN 99% of the time. What if we reversed the genders and instead started making fun of girls? I wonder how OK THAT would be...
[–]raptorrage 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
If they're creepy and feel entitled to a dude for just hanging around, mock away. Mocking behavior is always ok.
[–]wtknightHardcore Romantic 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
A post there about a "nice girl" currently has 215 upvotes. The sub is more about criticizing the entitled treatment that some people think just being "nice" should get you, and unfortunately it is more often men than women who think in this way, hence /r/NiceGUYS.
If you want to see examples of unreasonable women being ridiculed, you should check out /r/TumblrInAction, where the overwhelming majority of the tumblr posts seem to be from SJW females.
[–]exit_sandmanSocial Justice War Criminal 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
and unfortunately it is more often men than women who think in this way
Several reasons:
  1. This scenario doesn't even apply to the gender-flipped version
  2. In my experience nice guys expect relationships to somehow "just happen", i.e. that the other party transparently communicates her interest as well (asking for a date and escalating doesn't sit well with guys who have the tendency to be introverts). This strategy doesn't work for guys, but it certainly works for girls (seriously. I can't remember a single passable nice girl I know who has been forever alone).
[–]cuponoodlesisbackNon-Red Pill 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
I think it's because "nice girls" are so rare. Most women realize by some time in middle school or earlier that their appearance is the most important thing when it comes to attracting a mate.
Personally I have a very low opinion of men. I absolutely expect a man to solely value me for my pussy and looks so I'm rarely disappointed or angry when men are shallow. I have felt this way for a long time and I just accept the world for what it is. The problem is that men value women solely for superficial attributes but expect women to be modest angels and love them for who they are.
[–]gavinok 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
It's white knighting. Guy thinks, "Oh jeeze, if I fight for this girl and shame all the bad boys trying to talk to her, and protect her from them, I get a first class ticket into her pants!!"
Never works like that. Women choose guys based on attraction, not protection.
[–]AmericanHistoryAFBBRed Dirt Road[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
White Knights (most people) don't get the fact that ATTRACTION IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.
Women will choose the guy they are ATTRACTED to, Red Pill or not.
[–]uptotwentycharacters 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
There are occasional "Nice Girl" posts on there, but the "Nice Guy" is a much more established stereotype so it kind of makes sense that would be their focus. But it certainly doesn't seem to be an anti-make sub, certainly some misandrists may feel at home there attacking men, but in general it's about highlighting a certain type of negative behavior, rather than attacking the male gender in general.
[–]exit_sandmanSocial Justice War Criminal 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I saw one on there today which got me thinking...this sub is making fun of men. They're attacking men, and rarely women.
If they were attacking women, they would be attacking women who put out eagerly for attractive men and then are butthurt that these men don't reciprocate their affection. Of course this won't happen in such a sub.
[–]lurflyDevil's Advocate 5 points6 points7 points  (21 children)
I agree with you that it is a mean spirited. And it certainly features more men, though I see women popping up occasionally.
But if someone on that sub posts anything about a person who is actually nice, then they are not posting to the correct sub.
It's absolutely ok to shame men for being too nice and they are the scum of the earth. They don't know what they're doing is suplicating, and people shame them for following the nice guy narrative.
The NiceGuyTM is not a nice guy. Some people get confused and it means the overly accommodating, submissive, "too nice" beta guy. That is absolutely NOT what NiceGuyTM refers to.
[–]AmericanHistoryAFBBRed Dirt Road[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
I know this. The Nice Guys can't HELP it though- like TRP says, they don't know any better. You know what? If I was a nice guy and found myself being bullied on that sub, I'd tell them to fuck off and head straight to the Red Pill. Then I'd be shamed even more for actively trying to fix the problem.
See the problem?
You say the nice guy is NOT a nice guy. But how do they know that? They're just doing what they think women respond too.
It's the feminists and White Knighters who have turned the word "Nice Guy" into a negative term. And thats fucked up, because I used to be one of them.
[–]lurflyDevil's Advocate 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
The Nice Guys can't HELP it though- like TRP says, they don't know any better.
I partially believe this. I do think many "Nice Guys" have ASD. I work with kids who have ASD and we spend a lot of time trying to help them be successful socially. I said the sub is mean spirited and that is mostly why. That doesn't mean they get a free pass. What they do is not okay and they should face repercussions that help them learn. Unfortunately it is very hard to help an adult, which is why early intervention is becoming such a big thing.
However, not all "Nice Guys" have ASD. The ones without ASD have many reasons for their behavior and I agree that they don't know how to successfully interact with women. Just because they don't know a good way to get women, they don't get a pass for how they behave after being rejected.
But how do they know that? They're just doing what they think women respond too.
Its not about how they try to pick up women or what they think women want (though sometimes their "pick up lines" do happen to be overtly sexist). /r/NiceGuys makes fun of them because of how they react when their method fails and how they handle rejection. This is not about their lack of "game", it is about their lack of control, their tantrums, their threats, insults, etc.
It's the feminists and White Knighters who have turned the word "Nice Guy" into a negative term.
The term is taken straight from the NiceGuys themselves. The ones who say "I'm such a nice guy!" when they are actually assholes the moment something doesn't go their way.
Genuinely nice people are still seen positively.
[–]trp_zzzRed Pill Man -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
The Nice Guys can't HELP it though- like TRP says, they don't know any better.
Like TRP also says, women have an instinctive revulsion to weak men. Thus that subreddit.
You could view the standard blue pill/be nice line regarding sexual attraction as a massive shit test - the nice guy types have swallowed the line and as a result epically failed the shit test. The Chads of the world never listened to it and so passed with flying colors.
... turned the word "Nice Guy" into a negative term. And thats fucked up...
Why? Being "nice" isn't shit. Being attractive is what matters.
[–]Xemnas81 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Being nice is OK when you have established that you are insanely attractive.
Being an asshole also only works if you attractive.
[–]Xemnas81 2 points3 points4 points  (12 children)
The Nice Guy™ is not a nice guy. Some people get confused and think it means the overly accommodating, submissive, "too nice" beta guy. That is absolutely not what Nice Guy™ refers to.
Actually it is. Feminists took the premise of No More Mr Nice Guy, which is particularly applicable for marriage, and bastardised it to include high school and college dating. In this way denouncing Nice Guys suits the Feminine Imperative. These include being needy, passive aggressive, manipulative, working off covert contracts, a sense of victimhood for people not meeting his needs, etc. All of this can breed entitlement, the trademark of a Nice Guy™ according to feminists. They simplified all this to a younger audience as "women aren't machines you put nice coins into until sex pops out."
Glover should been trademarked Nice Guy™ first.
The irony is, feminism created their own parasite in Nice Guys. The NG strategy is a direct result of demonising masculinity and male sexuality, as part of the Sensitive New Age Guy complex. But it would be damaging to the agenda of the 3rd wave for young adults to be taught this.
[–]OfSpock 6 points7 points8 points  (2 children)
One of the main points of that book is that nice guys aren't actually nice, they're manipulative, so I don't see how feminists have bastardised it.
[–]Xemnas81 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
'Bastardised' was a strong word, admittedly. However, they absolutely simplified it, and thus turned a man who upon further introspection actually has some deep psychological wounds, into what at surface level just looks like a shallow douchebag getting into a woman's panties through the back door (the 'friend zone').
The reason for that is because to admit to the psychological wounds, they would have to discuss the concepts address in Chapter 2 (which include poor mother figures, the effect of promoting divorce and its dismantling the nuclear family unit, an education system which is biased against young boys, Big Pharma and the ADHD/Ritalin boom etc.) and that would damage their agenda. Certainly for campus feminism.
[–]wazzup987Black pill, you can beat me blue for it later 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
One of the main points of that book is that nice guys aren't actually nice, they're manipulative, so I don't see how feminists have bastardised it.
this
[–]lurflyDevil's Advocate 2 points3 points4 points  (8 children)
Well I'm talking about /r/NiceGuy. I insist that my point stands for that subreddit.
However, I don't know how feminists have used the "Nice Guy" trope on a broad level. You may be right about it in that context.
[–]Xemnas81 -4 points-3 points-2 points  (7 children)
/r/NiceGuy is clearly a joke made by feminists to mock guys in high school who use the Captain Save a Ho' strategy to get the affections of the hot girl.
[–]Xemnas81 -1 points0 points1 point  (5 children)
I would disagree. Women hate guys saying "I'm a nice guy why don't girls like meeee?" as much as they do "stupid bitch rejected me can't see I'm a real nice guy…" This is demonstrated on that sub.
edit: also, half of the posts deal with guys whining that they can't get girls out of their league.
[–]lurflyDevil's Advocate 1 point2 points3 points  (4 children)
You're right.
I think the reason for that is they lump those guys with the guys I described. Most of the posts that don't involve a tantrum or overtly offensive pick up line, are of people who /r/NiceGuys assumes fit the stereotype of the NiceGuytm .
The sense of entitlement, superiority, egotism etc. implies that they do fit into the NiceGuytm stereotype, despite the lack of hard evidence.
I don't mean to justify what they do though. Its all still negative. But I am positive that overall the intent of the sub is not to make fun of awkward guys who have bad luck with women. The purpose is to find guys like I described in my other post and make fun of them.
[–]Xemnas81 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
And again, I stress that in their mind
awkward guys who have bad luck with women
must come from
sense of entitlement, superiority, egotism
because to address how
they absolutely simplified it, and thus turned a man who upon further introspection actually has some deep psychological wounds, into what at surface level just looks like a shallow douchebag getting into a woman's panties through the back door (the 'friend zone'). The reason for that is because to admit to the psychological wounds, they would have to discuss the concepts address in Chapter 2 (which include poor mother figures, the effect of divorce and the dismantling of the nuclear family unit, an education system which is biased against young boys, Big Pharma and the ADHD/Ritalin boom etc.)
i.e.
these men are not egotists at all, they're ragingly insecure and socially clueless-what made them that way? How did we fuck up so much?
would damage the agenda of
feminism
[–]lurflyDevil's Advocate 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
I would argue that some evidence of entitlement, superiority and egotism should be in the post other than simply "I have bad luck with women".
But sometimes posters fail to ensure that and/or sometimes posters misunderstand the meaning of NiceGuyTM so you end up with posts that contain no evidence that someone actually is a NiceGuyTM. So yeah, its not a perfect sub, but I still don't think its intentions are to kick genuinely nice guys when they are down and if the leap from awkward to entitlement/superiority/egotism etc. is being made, I don't think it should be.
As far as the paragraph you quoted. None of that excuses the bad behavior of a stereotypical NiceGuyTM. But some of the issues you mention are absolutely things that should be addressed on an individual level and a societal level.
[–]wazzup987Black pill, you can beat me blue for it later 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
if your the devils advocate what do you actually believe?
[–]HappilySingleWomanNo Pill 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
That is absolutely NOT what NiceGuyTM refers to.
Indeed , it's mostly a stereotype about "nice guys" who act entitled .
[–]ProtoPillRed Before Red 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
I would agree with Lurfly, if you are browbeating some socially awkward poor beta, that's just messed up. But if you are satirizing the "NiceGuy," that's a different story.
[–]Xemnas81 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
They're the same thing. The latter is a simplified straw-man delivery of the former to the mainstream media, especially to youth culture, to absolve feminism's culpability in the former's creation.
[–]ProtoPillRed Before Red 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I will have to think about your statement here. It along with /u/AmericanHistoryAFBB 's comment may have enlightened me on this issue.
[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
Feminists will never make it but it does already exist. r/pussypassdenied
Considering that one of their main goals seems to be getting pussypass for feminists why would they make fun of their goals? That of course would be counter productive.
[–]AmericanHistoryAFBBRed Dirt Road[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Good point. Feminists will only act in their best interest with little regard to the feelings of others, so of course it's ok to shame men and not women.
[–]Nazrath2112Blood Splatter Red 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Feminists will also shame the shit out of women who dont go along with their narrative but that would be super subtle whereas men shaming is celebrated and out in the open.
[–]fland4rk 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
Clicked the link to /r/niceguys.
Literally the second highest post on the front page right now is something about "nicegirls"
u wot m8?
[–]AmericanHistoryAFBBRed Dirt Road[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I know, but look at how rare that is.
[–]pandorarosiewhoremones AWALM 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Nice girls are rare. We do get a few, the last one was brilliant.
[–]SOwEDEtizolam 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
Look at the post third from the top right now. They even say nice girl in the comments. Sorry there's not a sub dedicated to it. You are way too sensitive.
[–]AmericanHistoryAFBBRed Dirt Road[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
I don't give too shits whether theres a sub dedicated to nice GIRLS. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy. It's ok to shame men but not ok to shame women.
[–]SOwEDEtizolam 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
But...what I'm saying is they also shame women.
[–]lbspredhNot giving a fuck 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
ahh yeah the old niceguyTM straw man, it can't just be bad luck or inexperience and lack of confidence or obesity causing some guys to not do so well with women, no it absolutely has to be because they are doing something bad and deserve it, that way we can cling to this weird myth that women find good character traits more sexually attractive than physical traits
[–]uptotwentycharacters 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Well, they're not mutually exclusive; lack of experience may cause someone to do stupid things.
[–]Lonny_zone/( .□.)\ ︵╰(゜益゜)╯︵ /(.□. /) 3 points4 points5 points  (6 children)
Of course, /r/nicegirls will never exist, because women will never have to approach men.
EDIT: Also, yes it is meaner than TRP, because those men were earnest and mean't well, but here on TRP we actually reveal behavior of women who callously disregard the emotions of men.
[–]Saguine 3 points4 points5 points  (5 children)
Bullshit they meant well. Fostering emotional dependence through friendship with the intent of getting laid is pretty fucked up.
[–]Lonny_zone/( .□.)\ ︵╰(゜益゜)╯︵ /(.□. /) 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
Why does every bloop think they are all faking nice? (Some are, most aren't IMO.)
[–]Saguine 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
If one were a genuinely good person, they wouldn't think that someone should sleep with them for meeting the literal minimum baseline for being a person.
I know that the plural of anecdote isn't anecdata, but I've personally never met genuinely nice person who feels the need to stress how "nice" they are and why they deserve to get tail because of it.
[–]Lonny_zone/( .□.)\ ︵╰(゜益゜)╯︵ /(.□. /) 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
I doubt very many Nice Guys feel they are entitled to sex.
I bet most are just tired of never being wanted and angry about being lied to when it comes to what women want.
[–]Saguine 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
You're missing the point. The stereotypical Nice Guy (tm) is literally those guys who get bootybothered because girls don't sleep with them despite being nice.
A nice guy who doesn't feel entitled to sex isn't a Nice Guy. Getting angry about not being wanted and directing this anger at other people is 100% entitlement.
[–]Lonny_zone/( .□.)\ ︵╰(゜益゜)╯︵ /(.□. /) 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I think most nice guys lack the TM and don't take their frustration out on others.
[–]RedPill2015 1 point2 points3 points  (5 children)
Great point op.
There is not a single creature in the universe that gets mote hatred than the depressed beta male. Instead of answering his cry for help in his darkest hour? Feminists will relish his every pain, exaggerate his every negative quality, and insist that every actiom of his was only done to get laid. The exaggerations never end. They hate them more than racists, murderers, and nazis. Because they're weak they're perfect scapegoats.
[–]itsalreadybeenthrown 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Boo hoo. If these guys find these jokes offensive then they're just too goddamn delicate.
[–]Xemnas81 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
What frustrates me the most is that a lot of the reason the beta male is depressed is because of the dual ideology socialisation (patriarchy/feminism) that he faces in the wake of the modern 3rd wave, and to a lesser extent the impact of the SMP on womens hypergamic potential while the mainstream perpetuates various myths about romance: the One, idealistic monogamy, women's romanticism of relationships, Revenge of the Nerds, etc.
And yet they have the audacity to claim that they then are our saviours from the ominous Patriarchy.
Beta males have no safe space. They are in fact alone.
[–]itsalreadybeenthrown -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
Safe spaces are for the weak.
[–]Xemnas81 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
Well that's silly because TRP is a safe space for recovering Nice Guys.
[–]itsalreadybeenthrown 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Even TRP preaches that safe spaces are dumb, just put safe space in the search box and you'll see.
[–]Ocean_Squeeze -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
They're not nice, but neither is anyone else when it comes to sex and relationships.
They're just bad at getting it, so they get hate under the guise of hating them for feeling 'entitled' to it.
[–]dragoness_leclerqPurple Pill Disney Villain 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
For some odd reason your username makes me really thirsty. ಠ_ಠ
[–]Ocean_Squeeze -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Drink some water.
[–]chazzALB36yo Purple Perma-Virgin 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
There was quite a bit of overlap between /r/niceguys and /r/fatpeoplehate in both users and mods. That's really all you need to know.
[–]betterdeadthanbetaMisanthrope 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
But you just can't call out women for their bullshit, like ever.
I perceive this as well.
Whenever a group of women is being shamed, the liberal intellectual crowd will show up to talk about how the shamers are "problematic", "misogynist", etc.
Whenever a group of men is being shamed, those same intellectuals will show up to talk about how the targeted group is, in fact, "problematic", "misogynist", etc.
This is why stereotypes about neckbeards, fedoras, frat boys, bro culture, etc are not seen in the same overwhelming negative light as negative stereotypes about sluts, fat chicks, etc. Intellectuals react to the former with tacit approval and the latter with rancor. Unsurprising, given the recent academic push to hijack the concept of sexism such that it's "impossible to be sexist against men."
What people tend to forget about -isms, is that academics and intellectuals are always at the forefront, coming up with rationales and justifications for why it's now ok to forsake any and all empathy for a target demographic.
[–]wazzup987Black pill, you can beat me blue for it later 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
there is a legitimate dehumanization campaign coming from academic feminism towards men. remember back a few months ago when that 1/3 men will rape 'study' came? that study could be debunked by fifth grader with down syndrome. same for there 1 in x women will be raped studies. but nooooooo feminism is about 'equality' is what the inner socjus party chairman says.
[–]barbadosslim 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Tbh posting that opinion just lets me know that there's probably nothing worth reading in all those words.
[–]Xemnas81 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
There would be no TRP without subs like /r/Niceguys because it's a beta-shaming sub. Seriously that's the whole fucking joke. Unattractive socially awkward guys think that they have a chance with girls they like? LOL get out bro.
Because they have been socialised to view direct expression of their sexuality as overly aggressive and objectifying, the guys adopt a Captain Save a Ho' or LJBF strategy in order to win the affections of a girl. Typically the subjects are under 18, and the girl is out of the guy's league. Of course, the girl rejects him, sometimes nicely, sometimes rather rudely. The guy then complains that the girl is being unreasonable in rejecting him, his frustration over this perpetual occurrence resulting in him becoming increasingly bitter and spewing what might be construed as misogynistic attacks and negative generalisations. Usually this is followed by "I'm a nice guy why don't girls like me?"
"Entitlement" was then added on to validate the existence of Mass Objectification as per 3rd wave Patriarchy theory. If all the guys were just Entitled, then none of the women could be deemed Shallow. Nor could any external authority such as the education boards, 3rd wave feminism or Big Pharma be blamed for young boy's passive aggressiveness and inability to socialise in the way that the men of old apparently could. What made these young men so beta? How could they have been raised to end up so clueless?
If betas were not actively shamed and ridiculed both by mainstream media and the vast majority of women esp. young women alike, there would be no need for TRP.
[–]TRPACCWhite doves, roobarb and custards -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Politically correct people hate men that behave more like women .
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