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[–]http://steamcommunity.com/id/AkashaQueenOfPainPlease_Hit_Me 545ポイント546ポイント  (120子コメント)

Way to take away from the winners, happened way too fast holy shit.

edit: what the actual fucking fuck was that smash cut ending once the music finally got going? (in my opinion)

[–]ouku 85ポイント86ポイント  (2子コメント)

yeah, that's a huge sum they've just won and a huge event. Game over then all of a sudden they had the trophy then DJ set starts....

[–]tahoebyker 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it was in part to give the players some time in the background. Unwind, see their families, etc.. before being put back in front of a camera.

[–]freet0 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think they wanted the break

[–]EE-Sama ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノawsomebot 70ポイント71ポイント  (23子コメント)

EG was calm as fuck anyway. I mean, look at the previous TI winners (especially Alliance). They were so excited and shit. These guys were cool about it with their hands in their pockets (especially Suma1l with his neck pillow rofl). Not that's a bad thing or anything.

[–]ohwellariel 57ポイント58ポイント  (10子コメント)

In those days it was more about the fun and the competition - since TI4's insane prize pool I feel that the overwhelming sums of money weigh pretty heavily on these players and make them just feel relief at the end.

[–]Resum 30ポイント31ポイント  (7子コメント)

I can't wait until the money gets so big it's about the competition again.

[–]6.84 ruined meErnieB0T 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely needs to be more about the competition, maybe next time not even mention the money just, "How does it feel to win The Aegis of Champions, and prove you are the best in the world?" Instead of, "How does it feel to win $6.6 million?"

[–]permahextinker 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fear has a ton of money already he wanted that shiny shield.

[–]Guess who's back, back again, Alliance is back, tell your friendClusterrr 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe he should buy a fucking proper haircut. Please send my regards though.

[–]onlyfordota 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He does kinda look like he's kept the same haircut since he was like ten years old.

[–]tutori 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

They just need to rebalance the prize pool so it's not so fucking top heavy. Like 3 million for the winner, 2.6 for 2nd, 2.3 for 3rd, 2 for 4th, 1.6 for 5th/6th, etc. Then they would already know they won a fuck ton, the money didn't really matter.

[–]60percentsexpanther 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't make such a good headline.

[–]bryster126 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then you have shittier games because teams will get complacent

[–]mudhoney_stp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think its more shock of disbelief

[–]VALVE COULD YOU ADD THIS FUCKING HERO ALREADY PLEASESilkTouchm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Americans put too much emphasis on money. For us spectators, the glory of it should matter more.

Can't really blame the players though.

[–]Jackolope 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Seriously, he's got the neck pillow on during the handshake, the aegis lifting, and the interview after Deadmau5.

[–]EE-Sama ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノawsomebot 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought he had a serious neck injury or something, but seeing that no one ever mentioned such thing when they were asked "whats up with the pillow" I realized it was just him trying to be comfy.

I mean, sure. You can wear that during games I guess, but during the whole TI? Even in the closing ceremony? It just doesn't fit.

[–]K-GOD FTWXacto01 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hours gaming, he probably wants neck support. no kappa.

[–]ChampagnePoppy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]EE-Sama ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノawsomebot 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not really. Sure, they chose OK words to describe their feeling, but Fear looked like he just wanted to sleep after countless sleepless nights finally being over. Universe and Aui were like on acid trip. PPD was happy. Suma1l looked like he was thinking he could rule the world.

[–]They Will Win Ti5...Plzchipperz2 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Should have seen Newbee. Less facial expression than Kristen Stewart

[–]overact1ve 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Newbee actually jumped and cheered unlike EG. You can check YouTube

[–]mitchmo69 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah. Newgee were gee'd. I wish E-home had won so I could have seen rotK go wild

[–]stationhollow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or iceiceice going crazy with no pants on.

[–]Mech9k -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were like robots...

[–]mitchmo69 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

They weren't cool they were akward. People love big events because of the climax of the final. They want to see the winners go wild, they want to see the heartrbeak of the losers. They don't want to see them say, with a blank look on their face, can we go home?

[–]icyflakes 114ポイント115ポイント  (33子コメント)

Eh, it's not like EG were showing a fucking hint of emotion - just standing there awkwardly looking like they just lost. Kaci was trying her hardest to pull ANYTHING out of them, just getting 2-3 word answers back. I get that it can be overwhelming but fucking hell, smile or something.

[–]RedditRedux 72ポイント73ポイント  (7子コメント)

We got a 15 second pan of fireworks right when the game ended instead of a booth reaction shot. That was where emotion would have manifested but wow how do you drop the ball on that and then not even show it later.

[–]icyflakes 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah missing the booth shot was disappointing - and then when they did come out of game they just had the wide shot (you could see people moving about and hugging in the booth). Pretty awful.

[–]langrisser 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]icyflakes 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh god, ppd's high five to aui and aui just stands there while pdd high fives his elbow. Too good.

[–]Irukashe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely should have gotten some face shots as they won and pulled off the computer. They only showed a tiny glimpse of a group huddle in the booth at the end. :(

[–]Tankh 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah. All I wanted was the booth reaction shot. That's where it all happens.

Well at least you can watch it now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2OHtLDKxI

Of course it's still nothing compared to TI3 booth multicam. but I'm a bit biased ;)

[–]mitchmo69 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

PPD and Aui hands in the air. Fear not even smiling lmao

[–]Giff Chen arcanafREDlig- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We had booth cam on the second screen. Trust me, not much too see. Was expecting alliance moment. Got ppd jumping up two times, a bit awkward hug aui then back to "this is my job" faces.

[–]Jamtots 57ポイント58ポイント  (12子コメント)

The interview with the analysts wasn't any better either.

Suma1l, how does it feel to win TI5?

"Great..." complete silence

Well alright then moving on.

[–]icyflakes 45ポイント46ポイント  (8子コメント)

yep, it was awful. I mean, I can give a pass to the younger guys like Suma1l, but Fear was the worst. Just talking about how he wants to go home. He started to realise in the end that he should actually be talking like a normal human, but fuck me that was hard to watch.

[–]learn how to smoke gank, gain 500 mmrnotaredditperson 51ポイント52ポイント  (5子コメント)

I think Fear pretty much saved it from being a total disaster. Talking about taking a vacation and a break from dota, and reminding everyone just how much they've been playing.

Honestly they should've just given them more time between the victory and the interview, so that they could actually decompress. Fill the rest with analysis or something, you know? It's not like we just had four matches you could cover or something.

[–]mitchmo69 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

PPD was pretty good.

[–]thevoiceofzeke 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Talking about taking a vacation and a break from dota

That was PPD

[–]chetofuot -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

By saying "yeah...whatever..."? That's just disrespectful for the interviewer and the fans.

[–]Masklin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed, I winced at that. Based on that, I wouldn't want to be friends with Fear.

[–]ar40 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fear has been visibly pissed at Kaci. She tried to get him to scream like the MVP Hot 6 guy, and he was like: No, I'm not demeaning myself to the level of a monkey, TYVM.

I'm guessing he extended that to Redeye as well. Would have loved to see the other analysts ask questions to EG as well. As former players themselves, I'm betting EG would've responded with more respect, and better answers.

[–]vtxAishi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They've been playing intense matches for 8 hours. You can't blame them obviously. Should have gave them time to wind down and collect themselves before addressing them with questions and whatnot.

[–]Meesing meedlemonocleman1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my god, give it a break. Have you at all been in a position like EG were, winning a tournament with massive prestige, money and with a massive crowd in the background? I really doubt it. The players are still taking things in and probably tired.

If anything, the way they responded was more 'human' than what you believe.

[–]I was once the scourge of the plains, a terror on the wind.kriegsdrachen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the audio was set up poorly at the desk for interviews. Any crowd noise and they couldn't hear him. It makes it doubly awkward for everyone.

[–]ZprofessorKeos [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Universe was fine also I think Aui would've been if redeye asked him something.

[–]ar40 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fear has been visibly pissed at Kaci. She tried to get him to scream like the MVP Hot 6 guy, and he was like: No, I'm not demeaning myself to the level of a monkey, TYVM.

I'm guessing he extended that to Redeye as well. Would have loved to see the other analysts (Merlini, Mad) ask questions to EG as well. As former players themselves, I'm betting EG would've responded with more respect, and better answers.

[–]AODotA 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

We need more FireBatHero in DotA2.

Win an upset? BETTER GET FUCKING NAKED AND DANCE IN THE OCEAN. NOW WHAT? I'LL THROW RICE AND FREEZE POPS AT PEOPLE.

[–]icyflakes -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absolutely - I don't care what reaction they have, just have SOME reaction.

[–]Danzo3366 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you would of gotten the actual ending from the booth, they were stoked, I even think Fear was trying to hold back tears. I wish valve brought back the audio booth celebrations, because they were yelling and seeing Universe smash his headphone's and make a loud yell was a rare sight to see.

[–]icyflakes 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was VERY limited though - I watched the pod view, it was nice and should have been on the main view, but it doesn't change the fact they left the booth and turned into zombies.

[–]Danzo3366 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah IDK. I know there's a lot of teams that show hyper emotions, but I think that's just the kinda personalities they are. They were also super fucking tired, there was a tweet of Sumail sleeping on a table after it was all over. I had a feeling they didn't get any sleep and were up all night studying CDEC.

[–]Meowmeowmeowmeow123 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They just need to wait a few minutes before the bloody interviews man! Give them some time to decompress!! Good lord. I think fear actually had a tear in his eye at the podium thing.

[–]icyflakes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They gave them 20 or so minutes while deadmau5 was playing - come back and they are still barely talking.

[–]thefreepie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In their defence they had just played the most important Bo3 of their lives followed by the most important Bo5 of their lives

[–]thesuspense_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

they need to get a slice of some dendi charisma. holy fuck it was awkward to watch them... kinda ruined the mood for everyone.

[–]hangsmug 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Chances are they are on adderall/ other performance enhancing drugs, they just want to go to bed now.

[–]mitchmo69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Should have got Winter or Redeye to do that.

[–]Secret EG Fangaydorkchain 40ポイント41ポイント  (38子コメント)

really? everyone there was confused on what to do next, I feel like the transition was fine.

[–]1asdasda123 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

they could've analyzed the games and gone over the highlights.

[–]Caboose1313 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would have enjoyed that. I'm still waiting for something post game.

[–]MizerokRominus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably setting up for an interview to maybe go over the game with them?

[–]Caboose1313 81ポイント82ポイント  (30子コメント)

I disagree. It was like that was awesome guys you just won The International. Heres deadmau5.

[–]pX_Pain 50ポイント51ポイント  (18子コメント)

Except they weren't really saying much when you asked them about it, and they were being pretty awkward.

[–]From ashes, to ashes.fyrespyrit 40ポイント41ポイント  (10子コメント)

Tbh they all looked bored except for Aui. Aui was ecstatic. It was rly cute.

[–]Ambiwlans 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

Tired and w/e but yeah. Staying on the winners wouldn't have been great. Deadmau5 should have started with something more pumped though. Total misread.

[–]From ashes, to ashes.fyrespyrit 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

On their reactions on the stage, even marathonists will cheer and whatnot at least a few minutes before dying of exhaustion. I'm not saying they shouldve been jumping and w/e but at least smile D:

[–]Ambiwlans 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I mean, people don't jump for joy or anything after a chess tourney either. But I agree. Shyness~~~~

And this was a better team for awkwardness generally.

Edit: Music shows will always suck if you are stuck in a seat. the lol one looks like they were standing?

[–]mitchmo69 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You dont get fireworks and 7 million dollars after a chess tournament.

[–]Ambiwlans 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not the fireworks. But the winner takes more home in chess since you don't have to split 5 ways. I think the crowd is a big difference though.

[–]EG is the next best thingScollopy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it was more a state of shock, you just won a million dollars each, that takes some time to soak in.

[–]rtzWvenicebleach 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

He looked like he just won a million bucks, literally. Idk how the other 4 can be so calm

[–]Its windRUNNER valve, NOT FUCKING RANGER!havok0159 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only one who didn't seem fazed by it all was Fear everyone else seemed to have at least a moment when they realized they won. They were probably so tired and they had been holding in their excitement after winning two games that they probably didn't really believe it happened. I wish we got to see their reaction in the pods, I can't wait for someone to fish the timestamp in to vod.

[–]ETrooper74 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Minds probably fried from playing some of the most important sets in their life. I thought fear looked more stunned than bored.

[–]AngriestGamerNA 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is something Riot had problems with for several worlds as well, see the closing ceremony for S4 worlds and see what they did, that's how you close. You keep the team on stage MUCH longer, it's about them after all.

[–]M002 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. S4 worlds was finally a good ending.

Got to see Imagine Dragons perform a great set that started with "I'm on top of the world." which fit really well. The entire time it had a shit ton of confetti raining on top of the SSW players as they kissed the trophy and posed with it for a good 10 minutes.

Hard to hype up EG when they're just like "welp... here's the trophy, AND HERE'S DEADMAU5"

[–]notanothercirclejerk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everything about this closing ceremony was just brutal.

[–]Ajido 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd rather sit and hear the desk talk about the games in that case.

[–]smileistheway 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fucking stupid interview imo. Again the stupidest question in the world, “Hey you just won 6 milling dollars, HOW DO YOU FEEL HUH?“... what the fuck, always the same shit, they are normally awkward and they just became millionares, their bodies were shaking of excitment and they put them in the spotlight AND demand them to talk, bad move imo....

[–]Buckhum 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

They were probably hoping for golden moments like this

Unfortunately EG players were just mentally spent after a really long day of intense Doto.

[–]MeepwndObdachloser 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

I kinda feel like EG could have gotten like 10 mins more of applauding or something cool. Not just: you won! gz, have some music.

[–]D3va92 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you serious? Propably their families waited backstage and they would just stand there for 10min getting applause? Just give them the prize,cheer, music, end. Nothing more

[–]Giff Pitlord!!NNiCWOm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here, you won - go play some pitlord.

[–]sdecianu 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like here, have a potato.

[–]RUNNERVollAveN 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So they have at least time to realize what happened, because they looked nearly as zombies.. .far from an energetic celebration of Alliance... that's probably the hindsight of that much "production value.

[–]lazylore 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alliance looked incredible after they won. But that final game was incredible and a lot more emotions in being so god damn close.

[–]ShrikeGFX 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

they were just standing there like "What now? - do we hold this up for longer ?"

[–]Caboose1313 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah it was really awkward. I thought Gaben should have came out like he has in the past and presented it to them and maybe it would have sparked something more than it was.

[–]Supportdrododruffin -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I disagree. It was quite clear all the fireworks had gone off and EG didn't have much to say so the alternative was them just standing there while Kaci made the crowd do a wave for five minutes, in which case the elite shithead brigade on reddit would complain as well.

[–]Caboose1313 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They could have at least ushered them off the stage. I just felt it was a bit rushed but thats just my opinion.

[–]AJRiddle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

GO TO THE FUCKING ANALYST DESK. HOLY SHIT.

[–]QuVat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah they could've just structured it better. Waited for the audience to calm down, ask some real questions, etc. Look at what they did for DAC for a good example of what they should have done. Instead it was like, "Hey, great job guys but we paid all this money for deadmau5 so gtfo!"

[–]rip in pepperinicuteguy1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

there were no highlights or anything I personally wanted to see the dunk again, or atleast some analysis. should have just played deadmaus after the allstar game or something

[–]deakz- -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The winning cerimony literally went from "EG, YOU WON TI!" for 2 minutes into 15 minutes of shit music.

Its about celebrating the winners, not deadmouse.

[–]Zlojeb 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were pretty mellow for winning TI5 imho. Except Aui.

[–]Tkwk33 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Completely agree. Past years the winners were the focus of the closing ceremony. Gabe came out and talk, maybe an announcement and all.

But it was the winners 30min of fame, after all they're the ones making this entertaining and training hard all year. Mau5 is my favourite dj but this was really a disaster. They moved Dota from the stage in less than 5 min.

Hope it doesn't happen again in TI6.

EDIT: Welp, all they had to say was "We will leave the champions celebrate in private for a bit and we'll be back with them. Meanwhile enjoy Deadmau5" or something along those lines. That would've been a little more acceptable maybe.

[–]moldywarpe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The production team have been way off the mark with this the entire event, and especially at the end, how do you not immediately cut to the booth cam of the winners when the game is over?

[–]ivosaurus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Valve don't know how to finish

[–]http://www.dotabuff.com/players/46398245MJawn 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

i bet EG are relieved they can go enjoy it though. ask em each a question and send them on their way

[–]Zip ZapManoftheMarsh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ikr, 'Here's the Aegis, congrats, now fuck off and lets all stand awkwardly while the music plays because we can't really dance in the tiny amount of space we have'

[–]kimchifreeze 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It'd probably be more awkward for the players to stay around. They've won a tournament and the last thing they want to do is ramble shit at a crowd.

[–]Windover 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like Riot did a much better job last year at the ending of Worlds, they won, held up the trophy, and took a few minutes to collect themselves while the casters went over talking points.

Then they came out together and interviewed them for like 15 minutes in front of the entire crowd once they were a little more poised and relaxed.

https://youtu.be/kpEGfNwOic4?list=PLJIIsW8PQINBBpc6UajZvFiDwjXTplD2h&t=2324

[–]I wish I didn't have to use this flair but VP disappointed meGamerhcp 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

analysis with the champs is coming up

[–]Palawin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Coolyouwonhere'sthetropheyhowdoesitfeeltowin? AND HERE'S DEADMOU5!

[–]05U 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

The ending is deadmau5 mocking generel EDM artists. He's very against Avicii (which he played at last - levels, which he usually do to mock EDM) and his little flying around was probably to mock that "DJs just press play" (his opinion on it).
He's a very progressive artist. He's not much into the big room edm type music. and he's very against the mainstream edm artists.

[–]http://steamcommunity.com/id/AkashaQueenOfPainPlease_Hit_Me 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Never knew, that's pretty cool. I knew he was against the whole press play and fake it thing but didn't think it was about that, is this mockery something he often does?

[–]05U 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very often. You should see his performance at Ultra Miami 2014. or his recent show where he revealed his stage.
At Ultra he played Levels and a "Martin Garrix got a farm" remix of Animals, and just screamed into the mic, haha. (link) And at his reveal he pressed play, got out of his stage-cage thing, and just sat and took selfies, drank and.. it was weird. I can't really find it because I forgot which venue or whatever it was called.

[–]Secret of the temple!asn0304 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Regarding your edit, valve probably read this reddit thread and decided to call him off to avoid another Katie Kate.

[–]zapXet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah they fucked up completely. If they absolutely had to do the deadmau5 music set, they should have:

  • Told the crowd to stick around for post game analysis and a little surprise after the event.

  • Then, go back to the analyst desk and talk about the game, do some highlights

  • Following which, do a post game winners interview by bringing the team onto the desk. I did like that bit at the end at least. Was better than an interview with just the Captain.

  • Finally, say goodbye, and I guess cut to Deadmau5 so he can do the music thing.

But honestly it would've just been better if they left out the DJ set entirely.

[–]iceiceiceiceiceicenorax_d2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

19M strech goal, 5 more minutes of deadmou5

[–]LoASWE 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

edit: what the actual fucking fuck was that smash cut ending once the music finally got going? (in my opinion)

Judging from his try to get the crowd going he just said fuck it and put on avicii - levels to see if that did anything, he absolutely dispices avicii. https://twitter.com/deadmau5/status/630210848099799040

[–]TweetsInCommentsBot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

@deadmau5

2015-08-09 02:55 UTC

Well that was a fun little intermission. Time to get serious at the after party. :)


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