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THE MANCHILD GETS HIS HAMMER BACK.
(Or at least a hammer just like it)
I thought Marvel was growing up. I thought the symbolism of them taking Mjolnir away from Odinson, was that a new Era was upon us. And that the age of toxic masculinity was to be left behind.

The Female Thor distinguished herself from her Neanderthal counterpart in that she didn't resort to violence at the drop of a hat. When...ever possible, she employed kindness and understanding first and only when that failed and negotiations broke down did she resort to violence, and she used as little of it as possible. Just enough to get the job done.

Male Thor should have remained hammer-less to maintain an enduring lesson for men and boys to learn...that power is not a birthright, it's a burden.

Male Thor getting a hammer of his own is catering to priviledged fan-boys and their innate desire to conquer things by force, instead of coming up with other solutions. - BLUE CANARY
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  • The Lilith Manifesto Nice MRA invasion we got here.
    -Lady Jay
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Try again, Charmer, everytime we get a regiment of grade a-assholes flood this page, we have to delete the posts. We can't have people (however low the number is) who have this page end up on their feed see this ugliness. Tell you what...for every time you all have said something nice, I'll take a shot, and let you take a shot for everytime you guys have called us awesome things like "Useless gash" "cunt", "Moron", "Bitch", "Cow" and more and let's see which one of us gets drunk first. - Lady Jay.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto I like how he just told us to be grateful for harassment. - Xenia Onotopp.
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    • Eli Herstal Yes, be grateful for it. It's the best attention you've had since you failed to lose the baby weight. Or, you know, whatever made you fat and unlikable.
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    • Therius Cogitus Men aren' t just useless walking dildos and wallets, uh huh.
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    • Eli Herstal Also, what's it like seeing the trolls get more likes than you on your own fucking page?
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    • The Lilith Manifesto So...members of the Bigot-Brigade makes bigoted comments and OTHER members of that same brigade "like" that bigoted comment...VERY GUD SUR!! (slow-clap)- Xenia Onotopp.
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    • Eli Herstal "Bigot" - you mean 'everyone who thinks we're fucking insane', AKA 'rational human beings'. If you wanna keep redefining things to pad your world with illusions, go right ahead, sister.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto (Big ass Bully pummeling a poor, shy kid on the playground)...: "This is the most attention you've had in months, isn't it, Stewart? (punch punch punch punch punch) Isn't it?
      (punch punch punch punch) Isn't it?!!! - Xenia Onotopp
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    • Eli Herstal I'm quite sure you're probably a lot bigger than me. And let's be honest here, honey- this 'bullying' is fueling your little persecution complex. You aren't being bullied- you're being ridiculed and contradicted. If what I said bothered you so much, you'd have banned me and put me on ignore.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto We're not banning. We're refuting the nonsense that you're spewing. If we ban you you're just going to harass OTHER women elsewhere. When we dismantle you right here and now we provide a public service. Like Sanitation workers. - Lady Jay
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    • Eli Herstal So, basically I've dismantled you already. I mean, it's on there. And no matter what kind of 'schooling' I get here, I won't vanish from existence. You seem to have a high opinion of yourself and this little skidmark on facebook.
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    • Kyle McNamee What are you really dismantling, if I may ask? I wasn't gonna keep responding but my notifications keep firing off. So far I've seen you say masculinity is dying, even though it's stronger than ever (however feminist numbers are in decline), talk about cumming and slapping our girlfriends during sex is bad, even though women are actually quite naughty themselves and a LOT enjoy these things, say capitalism is bad, even though capitalism works better than any other form, throw a tantrum about losing fem Thor far worse than you all accuse us of throwing, assume anyone against you is an MRA, and that we can't get women (LOL btw) and so on. Eli is right though. You've got more visitors today than you have since you lost Hath no Fury and started this page up

      So to this, I say to all my anti-fem brethren, stop responding. Us being here is going to draw in the fems that want to combat us and draw attention to this page. If we merely exit stage left, the page will go back to normal, it'll stagnate, and it'll just fade away as a failure. Best way to eliminate a page like this is merely to not be on it because by staying, we'll be the most interesting aspect of this page and others will come purely to attack us, thus breathing life into it. So those who have said their piece should skim the page and see that this page will die all on its own without us and just leave please. We don't need to be a beacon of life here, as fun as it could be
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    • The Lilith Manifesto ^^^"Men are the center of the Universe, without the benefit of our attention...women as well as all flowers will wilt away" If next time you just say THAT. It's the same idea, but it won't be a wall of text. - Xenia Onotopp
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    • The Lilith Manifesto And yes, Hath No Fury was an AMAZING page and GREAT sister site. A shame what a toilet, you MRAs have turned it into. -Xenia Onotopp
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    • Eli Herstal You can't really turn something like that into a toilet. It was just waiting to be shat in.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto When it was a feminist page, every voice was heard and everyone got treated with respect. And they shared our posts favorably. Now the former owner gave the page away, it's a Gamergate base and MRA haven, and the only time anything of ours is "shared" there is when Sayyida wants to funnel undesirables (feminists and true egalitarians, you know...NORMAL and SANE people) to our page because she can't be bothered with them...

      Oh and she also shares our posts because ours are more interesting and she uses them as "talking points" all the while putting disclaimers that we're crazy and HNF has nothing to do with us anymore. That's all cute.

      - Lady Jay
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    • Eli Herstal You're basically saying that as soon as the doors opened for someone to provide an opposing view, it collapsed. You want an echo chamber, not a discussion and exchange of ideas.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto I think what she's saying is that you MRAs couldn't help but turn that page into a pigpen. And I can't disagree. - Xenia Onotopp
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    • Eli Herstal I'm not an MRA. I have the same rights as anyone else, I don't need more. Neither do you.
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    • Therius Cogitus "Dismantled". LOL

      HNF is proof that feminists cannot handle disagreement.


      They need safe spaces for their precious egos.
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    • Jimmy Russell Safe Spaces is textbook Cult behavior....might as well decry "Supressives"(which is what Scientologists do)

      It's hilarious to watch you projecting so hard XO
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    • Jimmy Russell P.S. not everyone who isn't a diehard Feminazi is an MRA you fucking dunce.... Non-feminists compose over 85% of the population, only a tiny fraction are MRAs

      You can't go around throwing titles like MRA at people just because they disagree with your bigoted ideological cult....you can stop chasing the MRA boogey/straw man you have created
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    • Callan Elliott Just because this you've had ever
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    • Kyle McNamee Ok. First, most on the page are egalitarians. Not MRA. Standing against you doesn't mean MRA and you should wise up and learn the difference instead of looking foolish.

      Second, it was not us who tried to kill the other side. It was not us who made su
      re that not all voices were heard. That was you guys. We were fine coexisting. In fact, while hath is still good and still infinitely better than what I've seen here (hello ghost town), it was at its best when we coexisted. But you all couldn't handle the fact that others don't think like you, so you had a femmie admin ban everyone who disagreed and start deleting things. We were fine with you, despite all the crap whiny arguments. You weren't ok with us. Mostly because we dared to point out what a clueless moron sarkeesian is. That's when the issues started with you all. We can coexist. You can't. So tell me which place is really worse? The page that engaged in difference of opinion and still does to some extent, or the echo chamber that threw a tantrum here over source material that was never yours to begin with? I don't think a dead page like this should talk crap about a page like hath of the past, which did a pretty good job of breaking barriers between our two sides before, and hath of now which still gets moderate member activity despite the fall out. Been almost 6 months now. If you were going to survive here, there would be signs of it beyond 700 page likes and the occasional member liking a post. And I'm aware I'm hitting a little below the belt now as I point out this page was dead right out of the box, but this shit is ridiculous. Things were much better before you all tried to destroy hath and for me personally, even though I can't stand modern day feminists, I wish you'd all just untwist your panties and learn to coexist with us again. The discussions were fun and challenging. I love that page, and I loved it back then when you all were still present. As did most of those on my side of the fence. I simply can not grasp why it is you fems can't accept other people's opinions and view points without insulting them and attacking them. Which you do realize that whether you ban or not, it could all be used as evidence on the anti-fem pages right?

      Good job answering the question as to what it is exactly you're dismantling by the way. You talk like Donald trump in tonight's debates. Get asked a question and avoid it in a temper tongue emoticon
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  • Laura Breece Didn't resort to violence at the drop of a hat? She beat the crap out of that female villain that surrendered, a move that would have made the real Thor be stripped of his powers.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto No she beat up absorbing man, because he was endangering the public. And she knocked out Titania so that she can ensure her peaceful transfer to prison. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Laura Breece Titania had already surrendered tho
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    • The Lilith Manifesto When a dangerous criminal has to be transferred to a maximum security prison, authorities apply handcuffs in order to temporarily incapacitate that criminal, even though that criminal has already surrendered...

      I'm not aware of any handcuffs that can incapacitate Titania (who can benchpress an excess of 80 tons, and swat away Iron's man's rockets) how else was Thor supposed to incapacitate her? -BLUE CANARY
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    • Billy Plante Isn't it fun watching her make all the mental gymnastic leaps that allow her to justify violence when SHE thinks it's ok, but anyone else who does it, most especially men, well they're just wrong.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto You know what I said makes sense. I thought you men were all about logic? -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Lmfao what you did was rationalization....not Logic

      Only the illogical confuse the two
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    • Laura Breece "I thought you men were all about logic" how does someone's sex have anything to do with the discussion at hand?
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    • Jimmy Russell Laura Breece I can answer that....

      BC is a sexist...as most Femtards usually are
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Laura Breece, you worry me with this comment: "I must just have internalized misogyny."

      You're showing me that we women buy into a lot of MRA nonsense...if exposed to it over time.


      Just to keep up with what MRAs are up to I watch Youtube Channels like the Honey Badgers, John The Other, Sargon of Akkad etc.

      The sheer lies and cognitive dissonance and projection in those channels leaves me in stiches for hours. No better comedy than sexists rationalizing their sexism...

      But they have made fun of the term "Internalized misogyny" to the point where it is now a joke. But it's real.
      It's no more a joke than Stockholm Syndrome is a joke. - BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Jimmy Russell, I'm not a sexist. I'm just someone finally telling you the truth. You can either embrace that truth and become a better person, or you can disregard it and continue on hating women. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Laura Breece I'm not an MRA. Good job trying to invalidate my argument via strawman fallacy.

      Internalized misogyny may be a real thing, sure, but I think feminists have made it more of a joke than MRAs ever could. Do you realize how many times I've been told by feminists that I have internalized misogyny, just because I presented actual facts to counteract their misinformation? Honestly I've lost count.
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    • Laura Breece Oh wow, your lack of self awareness cracks me up. Actually, I should flat out ask before I go assuming: are you implying that I am only presenting the opinion I am because I want boys to like me?
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    • Jimmy Russell Funny...because John the Other was actually ousted from the MRM and Sargon of Akkad is not an MRA(and has NEVER claimed to be one or affliated with the MRM).... 1 out of 3 is a terrible record for you BC(and not all Honey Badgers are MRAs either ya dumbass)

      And I see the projection coming from you....seeing as the sexist bigoted hateful comments against Men are coming from you, and I said nothing negative about Women (criticism of your stupid cult is not akin to Woman-hating, but you project so hard you assume the world is also as hateful as you are....)

      You certainly ARE a fucking sexist, as demonstrated by OP...

      And "I'm telling you the truth" is the telltale sign of a CULTIST or CONSPIRETARD...Fembots like you tend to be both
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Following that line of dialog can only have us descend into schoolyard taunting and petty exchanges...

      What I'm really saying is that you're adding to a chorus of voices shouting me down for telling the truth. And I don't blame you for it, it's part o
      f human nature to want to be part of the dominant group. But I think if you really look at this post you'll find that I'm fighting for our rights.

      Feminism is more than just a movement, it's also a set of tools you can use to analyze society to find out how to make things better.

      And it might seem like minutia to analyze something so seemingly insiginicant as a male character getting his powers / weapon back...

      it's important...fiction, going as far back as Ancient Tales and Greek Myths, shapes the minds and attitudes of people...and so that's why I made the post. It is a VERY big step back (allegorically) for the changing ideas gender, for Man Thor to get his hammer back. It reinforces things like

      Male privilege and toxic masculinity.
      I'm sorry I snapped at you in that last comment. I just didn't expect a woman's voice to be among the chorus shouting me down, particularly seeing how feminism has benefited women. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Yeah BC's lack of self awareness and outright projection is quite entertaining...

      Typical, Feminism seems to draw in people with HPD or BPD....and massive projection is common in those types


      I love the attempt to deflect to others in a failed Tu Quo Quo Fallacy.... Bravo, might have worked on the less knowledgable, but again you don't even Logic
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    • Laura Breece Saying I can't disagree with feminism because of the ways it has benefited me in the past is like an abusive ex telling you that you should get back with them because of all the good things they did for you in the past. It's a really toxic way of thinking.
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    • Jimmy Russell I disagree with the current actions of the Black Panther Party....does that mean I have internalized White Supremacy or something?(In b4 you call me an Uncle Tom)

      ^ Because that is the ridiculous level of cult rational you just spewed BC
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    • The Lilith Manifesto No, Jimmy Russell, I followed that timeline. JTO was expelled from the MRM for being too extreme and excessively combative, EVEN for an MRA. lol. He was turning on his OWN people, and he still takes swipes at not only Paul Elam, but also at Sage. That's who you're defending, someone too extreme even by extreme standards. (slow-clap) - BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell P.S. your "Feminist" lense is a bullshit outlook on the world and is again a clear indicator of Cult behavior....

      Next you'll be talking about how "The Goddess" guides you and shit....you are predictable, like most Fembots
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    • Jimmy Russell Hey dumbass....I know your reading comprehension is poor, but I never defended John the Other, I explicitly denounced him as not being an MRA and not MRM affiliated(when you were attempting an Ergo Decido Fallacy by associating him as one)

      Learn to read please
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Laura Breece, I removed that comment I made. Again I'm really sorry. That's not where I wanted to go at all. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Why remove it....we all know how you feel

      No point trying to make amends now you Bigot
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    • Jimmy Russell "The sheer lies and cognitive dissonance and projection in those channels leaves me in stiches for hours. No better comedy than sexists rationalizing their sexism..."

      Laugh ass off the Self Awareness is near zero(possibly negative)....because that is
      Exactly what you are doing here(since OP actually).

      And SoA ALWAYS reports his sources and has never lied (intentionally)...in fact he's invited subscribers to check his facts and correct him whenever possible, and he DOES do updates whenever corrected.

      Your cognitive dissonance must give you regular headaches....how can anyone be this pretentious yet so mentally incompetent?...
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    • The Lilith Manifesto What? Fuck you. I'm not a bigot. Don you dare project your character flaws onto me. Spend that time working on yourself, maybe you won't scare women.

      I'm taking on all of you at once...and I'm keeping myself together despite being called names and be
      ing accused of all sorts of stupid shit.

      You got Brett Caton telling me how as a woman my money's not good enough for Marvel to listen to me.

      You got Chris Williams, telling me I have no merit.

      And of course you spending 2 out of like 3 comments that you make ordaining me the leader of a cult, and well of course all of you have called me a moron or something similar at least once every post.

      And I gotta put up with that, but I can't slip and say something I regret? I said that unfortunate and untrue comment to Laura Breece, in a moment of pettiness and stupidity, and I regretted saying it the moment I pressed "enter", it doesn't make me a bigot. It makes me human. Yeah, you found me out. Sorry.

      - BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Sargon is arguably the more honest of that pack of liars. But my stance on these things is this...there are facts and evidences but it's how those things are interpreted that makes things worth something. You have to interpret those facts and truths with a certain level of charity and intellectual honesty.

      The video he made of Gazi Kodzoe calling him out for being a "Black Hitler" it was funny, yes. But he practiced SEVERE intellectual dishonesty by willfully misinterpreting what Gazi said. When Gazi said, for example...that black people gave the United States its economic system...Sargon knows damn well what Gazi meant...

      The slave trade, and post slavery labor provided by people of color was a gigantic part of what built the American economy.

      Then Gamergate....oh my God, Gamergate...the man refuses to give Anita Sarkesian ANY credit for work she actually HAS done...before Anita opened her mouth and DARED speak on these topics...Lara Croft was still a Hooters Model with guns, and I have no doubt in my mind that The Last Of Us, would have been ALL about the guy in the game relegating all female characters as eye-candy.

      Anita Sarkesian yelled fire, and everyone is safely standing out in the streets as the firefighters douse the blaze...and standing in the safety of the streets, due mostly to HER bravery, you are all standing there deciding whether or not to hang her for waking you up from a nice night's sleep.
      -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell The one who starts off this post with "Man-child" as an insult to an Iconic Male Hero and then proceeds to spew "Males need to be taugh a lesson" claims she's not a bigot....you most certainly are, and it's blatantly apparent
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    • Jimmy Russell I never called you a cult leader....I wouldn't dare give you that much credit. I called you a Cultist....

      Learn to read, fucks sake
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    • Jimmy Russell Also...Gazi claimed Africans gave them the "Western Economics System", not slave labor. YOU are the one being intellectually dishonest one here (and being very poor at it at that). Pro-Blacks(another Cult I dislike) like Gazi actually believe Africans invented many innovations they actually demonstably did not because they like to lie to themselves to feel better(and this is coming from a Half Nigerian myself). Again YOU are the clueless one here BC....

      Anita is a fucking Con Artist(and that's who I'd call your Cult leader) and you know it....she has outright spewed nonsense against Women's freedom of Choice(Choice Feminism). Fucking textbook Cult leader behavior....And what kind of "Critic" refuses to debate their own Critics when presented with $10,000 to do so. She pulled the wool over your eyes and you fell for it Hook, Line and Sinker

      You are so blind it's unreal
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    • Jimmy Russell P.S. Your dislike of Lara Croft isn't any different from the religious Puritans "Cover up those lewd women" attitude... You ARE in a pseudoreligion/Cult, just unaware of it
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    • The Lilith Manifesto On what planet is being a Cult Leader (someone who willfully deceives people) better than being a Cultist (an innocent person brainwashed and fooled into joining a cult) Your outlook is weird as hell. lol.

      For the record...please don't ever give me credit...by calling me a cult leader...lol. I'm glad you cleared that up and that that's not what you said. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell I'm saying you aren't Intellectually Competent enough to lead a Cult...you are obviously the Sheeplike follower.

      Are you Autistic? Because that was clearly a sarcastic insult...
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    • The Lilith Manifesto And Fuck old school Lara Croft. She was a piece of eye-candy for teen boys to spend their hard-earned summer job money on. It's no wonder men have such unrealistic expectations of the female body. Why can't you see that these works of fiction that you absorb in your formative years are reason why you can never truly find happiness...you men had better start holding these companies accountable for fucking up your lives.

      Shit like Witchblade, Tombraider, virtually everything coming out of Zenescope...all of those characters are ruining your perception of the female form and when you subconsciously overlook a woman who could have been your soulmate, simply because she's not living up to a standard that you don't consciously know you have...you end up a bitter MRA: insulting women, or a PUA: seeking cheap thrills with brainless bitches who are so-called (10s), who will eventually use you. Or maybe you end up a MGTOW...and pretend that not having a woman was YOUR choice. lol

      -BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto I know it was an insult. I'm saying you're better off tayloring your burns to the person you're burning, because clearly I didn't feel insulted by that. I hold morality over intelligence. So telling me I'm not smart enough to be a piece of shit like Jim Jones...oh...I'm so insulted...lol. So again. I didn't feel insulted. Try again, -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell It's called FICTION you fuckin imbecile....It's supposed to be a Fantasy outside reality. Besides, it'll give your lazy ass something to aspire to(because if it really bothers you that much you probably need to get your ass to the gym anyway).... We know that female Thor fans don't expect their Men to have the body of a Norse/Greek god. Why would you assume it affects all Men in the inverse way....is that you projecting your insecurities again?(must be)

      Your ideology seeks only to tear down everything to the lowest common denominator, instead of inspiring self improvement... Stop making pathetic excuses for your insecurity

      P.S. I'm in a long term(over 1.5 years) loving relationship....But I'm assuming you are just projecting again because I highly doubt many Men want to deal with your piss poor attitude and misandry long enough for the second date
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    • Jimmy Russell Lol you are a pious cultist...claiming the moral high ground

      Typical religous nutter behavior. And you wonder why I call you a cultist...thanks for continuously proving me right through example after example
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Well that's the thing fictional images endure in the mind more than actual reality. Let's see how many people know who Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong are...but then ask them who Captain KIrk is or Han Solo or Darth Vader...myths matter more than man and they mold the mind. Damn that's a lot of "m"s in once sentence. lol.

      And I'm sorry that you've chained some poor woman in your basement or walk-in closet and force her to listen to your insane MRA ramblings for (1.5 years is it?) lol. But that doesn't make it a relationship, babe, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. At least you're not bad looking, so there's that.

      And yes Lara Croft, Jill Valentine, Claire Redfield, Witchblade/Sara Pezinni, and other images of that nature make me uncomfortable...it affects (though subconsciously) what men find acceptable in terms of a woman's value...

      I'm in my late 20s and I'm in good shape, but men are being instructed through works of fiction to look right past me the day I dare hit the age of 35, or God forbid I gain 40 lbs in the wrong places. So yes...those images are damaging to men as well as women. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell No...Men avoid you because you are a straight up Cunt, it probably has nothing to do with the games they enjoy. Honey Boo Boos Mom has a bf, countless obese Women get male attention regularly...if you aren't, it's because of your terrible personality. Sorry not sorry
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    • Jimmy Russell P.S. Women's(including yours) Sexual Value depreciates with age....this is Biologically ingrained(and demonstrably so), it's got nothing to do with Games(because it's true even in Societies where Video Games and Western media don't exist or aren't part of culture) you muppet
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    • The Lilith Manifesto For the billionth time, feminism is not a cult. The movement has been responsible for the countless gains that women have gotten in the workplace, in education, politics and in society as a whole. Who can deny this?

      Would you be happy in a world where
      your mother, sister, and the girl in your walk-in closet couldn't vote? No you wouldn't because we are all connected. Society is an organism. We're all in this together.
      -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Ah...the old appeal to the Past Fallacy.

      For the billionth time, I'm criticising MODERN 3RD WAVE Feminism(like Anita Sarkeesian/Bell Hooks followers), which operates very much like a Cult(and you are demonstrating this live)....


      By the way, Women were voting before Feminism was even a word... Suffrage was about CLASS not sex you fucking dumbass, Women were voting as early as the Civil War(even held Senate seats then)(which is over 100 years before the term Feminism was ever coined)....it was just tied to Wealth(property ownership) and then Military Service(which Women did not want to participate in en masse). But keep deluding yourself into believing historical revisionist Lies... You really are a sheeplike simpleton, I pity you
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Whoah Whoah Whoah, Playboy, we don't drop "C" bombs here. I know, every once in a while admins here do it too. But we edit it out when we come to our senses. Hahaha...

      We scroll through pages like Hath No Fear, and we see how they roll over there...ar
      e you one of the MRAs from that page? You are aren't you?

      I guess Rebecca Watson was right: If you men go too long without calling a woman a cunt, your testicles shrivel up. lol.
      -BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Well 3rd Wave Feminism is picking up the Torch. Tackling issues like the wage gap, online misogyny (Hello, Gamergaters smile emoticon ) as well Street Harassment. How can you deny that a movement is needed if it tackles those problems plaguing women? When's the last time your girlfriend was coming home by herself and you weren't worried sick that she'd be assaulted? A society that is made safe for women is made happy for everyone else. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Lol if the shoe fits, lace up. But typical of you and your ilk to critique the verbage I used (how else would I describe such a terrible personality and your behavior besides a derogatory term....that's how language works you dunce) instead of the content of what was stated. Typical Red Herring.... Claim that I used a word or term you don't like and then claim a moral high ground(which is ironic because you started off this post with an insult for a Male you fucking enourmous Hypocrite)...

      You are a fucking Cunt....and I'm labelling a spade a spade. I don't use that word for just any Woman(actually reserve it for the worst of the worst, like yourself)
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    • Jimmy Russell Rebecca Watson is a massively dishonest CUNT to... I'm not surprised you're a groupie

      Cultists flock together remember?
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    • Chris Williams You lie with every breath you take, BC. If it slapped you upside the head and screamed in your ear, you wouldn't know the truth. Feminism is a hate cult. And you are a sexist bigot.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Oh my God! What is with you and the C word?! And I don't even mean Cunt this time...let me ask you...what are the parallels that those two things share that lead you to keep calling our movement a cult?

      Am I from another planet here? Because you're no
      t making sense...explain to me why you think 3rd Wave feminism is a cult.

      And enjoy your "C" bomb drops but don't put them in the middle of comments that you're attached to, because in a few minutes I'll be deleting them. It's my job. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Chris Williams "Oh no! Words I don't like! My fee-fees! I must protect myself from words, because I am so very goddamn weak!"
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    • Jimmy Russell That pesky Wage Gap that even the Bureau of Labor Statistics doesn't take seriously? Where Women ages 20-32 actually outearn their Male counterparts...

      Not a single reputable Economist takes that Wage Gap Myth seriously...(Fact; according to the Burea
      u of Labor Statistics, Women as a group do 80% of the work hours than Men as a group do....and then you scratch your head wondering why they EARN less on average)

      Refutations of the gender wage gap myth:
      http://www.consad.com/.../Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final...

      http://www.the-spearhead.com/.../Gender-Wage-Gap-Final...

      http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=621

      http://www.bloomberg.com/.../don-t-blame-discrimination...

      http://online.wsj.com/.../SB10001424052748704415104576250...

      http://www.openmarket.org/.../state-of-the-union-more-on.../

      http://www.cbsnews.com/.../the-gender-pay-gap-is-a.../

      http://www.businessinsider.com/actually-the-gender-pay...

      http://www.forbes.com/.../its-time-that-we-end-the-equal.../

      http://money.howstuffworks.com/gender-gap1.htm

      http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/.../The_gender_pay_gap_does.../

      http://www.marketwatch.com/.../the-gender-wage-gap-is-a...

      http://www.examiner.com/.../gender-pay-gap-is-not-what...

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/.../Sorry-ladies-Im-not...

      http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/22/opinion/22Sommers.html...&

      http://www.americanthinker.com/.../09/the_wage_gap_myth.html
      http://abcnews.go.com/2020/GiveMeABreak/story?id=797045...

      http://www.payscale.com/.../do-men-or-women-choose-majors...

      http://www.aei-ideas.org/.../2009-dol-report-found.../...
      Some examples of women earning MORE than men:
      In part-time work, men make 48 cents for every dollar that women make: http://imgur.com/a/WuVf9

      http://www.reuters.com/.../us-boardroom-women...

      http://chronicle.com/.../WomenMinority-Presidents/135744/...

      http://www.businessinsider.com/women-in-tech-make-more...

      http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=10630664

      http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/03/nyregion/03women.html...

      http://content.time.com/.../article/0,8599,2015274,00.html

      http://online.wsj.com/.../SB10001424052748704421104575463...

      http://www.forbes.com/.../jobs-where-women-earn-more.../

      http://www.womensviewsonnews.org/.../young-women-now.../
      Women opting out of careers/underrepresentation:
      http://edition.cnn.com/.../BUSINESS/03/15/optout.revolution/

      http://www.sify.com/.../women-stay-away-from-math-out-of...

      http://www.science20.com/.../women_science_no...
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    • The Lilith Manifesto It's 9:48. @ 10:15 any comment with the word Cunt in it will be deleted. You can always edit it and replace the word. When that happens the comment will stay. (This is also a test of how reasonable MRAs are...just in case you're wondering)

      And I have
      actually been nothing but nice to you, so I don't know where are that venom comes from. That comment about your GF being chained in your walk-in closet was obviously a joke. I'm quite sure she's only chained to the Radiator in your Garage. lol - BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Or perhaps you'd like to see the report done by WAM(Women Action Media) which very clearly shows less than 0.5% of Gamergate tweets are even remotely classified as "harassment"....(hint, usually Baphomet trolls who have been playing Both sides for Lulz)
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Well let me ask you...the people flooding Brianna Wu's Twitter feed with threats and gender-based insults daily. Are they sending love letters? - BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell http://www.culteducation.com/warningsigns.html i could give you examples of All of these

      Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.(Your behavior on how you demand the world to change to your liking)


      No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.(Leaders like Sarkeesian and Steinem refuse to take criticism or debate)

      No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.(Anita has actually refused discloser agreements despite claiming Non-Profit status)

      Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.(The evil patriarchy is out to get you...and your obsession with "online misogyny" as if Men don't get shit talked to online as well(in fact more, this has been studied))

      There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.(You claim you owe Feminism something for the past)

      Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.(Ex-feminists (Like Hoff Sommers) are abused on a regular by those on the inside)

      There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.(Steinem was an ex-CIA agent)

      Followers feel they can never be "good enough".(Your moral high ground attitude)
      The group/leader is always right.

      The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.(You literally just referring to you having "the truth" earlier)

      Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

      Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
      Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.(You even admitted to a "Feminist Lense" to look at the world through)

      Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".(You with Anita Sarkeesian, you treat her as a Martyr)

      Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.(You have been spouting Buzzwords left and right to the point of predictability)

      Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
      Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
      A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.(Feminists have no sense of humor, they can't take any jokes...Even slight ones made in jest are seen as "Misogyny" or "harassment")

      Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader. (Feminists will avoid Male interactions(like you do))

      Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.(You support Censorship and Blacklisting done by Anita)

      Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.(See above about ex-Feminists)
      An Internet archive of information about cults, destructive cults, controversial groups and...
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    • Chris Williams Censoring words you don't like. Yep, the very picture of reasonability.
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    • Jimmy Russell Brianna Wu...you mean the one who got caught sending herself critique and harassment via Steam because she forgot to log out of her Admin account? That Brianna Wu?....

      You are even dumber than I thought
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    • Jimmy Russell Here she is Logged in as SpaceKatGirl harassing herself.... There is plenty of evidence she's fabricating a victimhood for attention. I fear for her mental state, she's probably got Histrionic Personality Disorder and you just feed it
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    • The Lilith Manifesto What the fuck? How the fuck am I being a facist? I'm actually just doing my job. I have given you guys a very wide latitude, I could have started dropping the ban hammer the minute Brett Caton posted that condescending wall of text."Feminists want 'Daddy' to fix our problems" are you fucking kidding me?!

      You guys ever wonder why you get banned from so many pages? You CAN make your point without being assholes.

      Jimmy Russell, there's a lot of those links I haven't seen. Going to read through them in a few minutes. -BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Jimmy Russell, those warning signs about a cult make sense but I think that you are taking count of some extreme branches of Feminism. The clubs and activist groups I'm a part of we are definitely NOT like that. Yes I know NAFALT...but it's just the truth.

      And Feminism itself is the best ideology of our time and it can't be blamed for how others misuse it. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell No...reread them, I gave you examples of how/where YOU act this way

      http://www.culteducation.com/warningsigns.html I could give you examples of All of these


      Absolute authoritarianism without meaningful accountability.(Your behavior on how you demand the world to change to your liking)

      No tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.(Leaders like Sarkeesian and Steinem refuse to take criticism or debate)

      No meaningful financial disclosure regarding budget, expenses such as an independently audited financial statement.(Anita has actually refused discloser agreements despite claiming Non-Profit status)

      Unreasonable fear about the outside world, such as impending catastrophe, evil conspiracies and persecutions.(The evil patriarchy is out to get you...and your obsession with "online misogyny" as if Men don't get shit talked to online as well(in fact more, this has been studied)) and Rape Hysteria caused by falsified lies about rape stats etc....

      There is no legitimate reason to leave, former followers are always wrong in leaving, negative or even evil.(You claim you owe Feminism something for the past)

      Former members often relate the same stories of abuse and reflect a similar pattern of grievances.(Ex-feminists (Like Hoff Sommers) are abused on a regular by those on the inside)

      There are records, books, news articles, or television programs that document the abuses of the group/leader.(Steinem was an ex-CIA agent)

      Followers feel they can never be "good enough".(Your moral high ground attitude)
      The group/leader is always right.

      The group/leader is the exclusive means of knowing "truth" or receiving validation, no other process of discovery is really acceptable or credible.(You literally just referring to you having "the truth" earlier)

      Ten warning signs regarding people involved in/with a potentially unsafe group/leader.

      Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.(Your constant Feminist ranting, and the "lense")

      Individual identity, the group, the leader and/or God as distinct and separate categories of existence become increasingly blurred. Instead, in the follower's mind these identities become substantially and increasingly fused--as that person's involvement with the group/leader continues and deepens.(You even admitted to a "Feminist Lense" to look at the world through, you are incapable of separating yourself from criticism of the ideology)

      Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".(You with Anita Sarkeesian, you treat her as a Martyr)

      Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.(You have been spouting Buzzwords left and right to the point of predictability)

      Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvementinvolvement(You even call this page a "Safe Space"....which is just a euphemism for Echo-Chamber.... And Feminist Lense...it's literally part of your identity like a religion would be)

      Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.(Twitter obcessed Slacktivism and constant moral outrage about mundane things like female bodies in Lara Croft or other fantasy)

      A dramatic loss of spontaneity and sense of humor.(Feminists have no sense of humor, they can't take any jokes...Even slight ones made in jest are seen as "Misogyny" or "harassment")

      Increasing isolation from family and old friends unless they demonstrate an interest in the group/leader. (Feminists will avoid Male interactions(like you do))

      Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.(You support Censorship and Blacklisting done by Anita)

      Former followers are at best-considered negative or worse evil and under bad influences. They can not be trusted and personal contact is avoided.(See above about ex-Feminists and "Safe Spaces")
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    • Jimmy Russell Cults and religions also are infamous for using the No True Scotsmen and claiming they "have the best ideology of their time"....

      You operate like clockwork....it's sad really, I might as well be talking to a Scientologist or Fundamentalist or ISIS member with that kind of talk...same shit, different Ideologue
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Yeah well I think you're crazy and you're seeing things that are not there. The interpretation of my actions and that of the real branch(es) of feminism (the all-inclusive) branch(es), don't suffer the pitfalls that you've posted about. Just because you SAY that we do, doesn't mean we actually do. And just because we stand up for Anita against her attackers and harassers, doesn't mean we ALL agree with her. I have personally seen some of her videos where she is so mistaken that I just have to go to another channel, as to not feel embarrassed for her...like Jesus Christ Girl? Do you even Game?!

      But that doesn't mean you get to send her death threats, it doesn't mean you get to promise to commit a mass shooting if she shows up on your campus.

      So NO, Anita is not my leader, I stand up FOR her , it doesn't mean we stand WITH her. There's a difference. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Lmfao you mean the letter she sent herself....only a deeply ideological feminist like Anita would have known the details written on that letter.(about things like the Norway shooting etc) http://theralphretort.com/letters-fraud-anita-sarkeesian.../

      Th
      e police and FBI both deemed it NOT a credible threat...

      As for Trolls, I dispise them just as much as you....but having trolls does not make her right nor give her any credibility

      And to answer your question...no Anita does NOT game, and that's the problem. She's Jack Thomson 2.0 but only getting taken seriously because she's a woman playing damsel in distress(which ironically she criticizes games for having)
      Anita Sarkeesian's letter to her backers is the ultimate delusion.
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    • Jimmy Russell It's not what I'm saying....i'm literally giving examples of you displaying cult-like behavior RIGHT NOW in this very conversation.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto The information in the letter is freely available to the public. Saying that she sent herself those threats is libel and slander. If you can't prove it you probably shouldn't say it. Suspecting that somebody did something is a far cry from actually having evidence that they did it. - BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto If you have proof, produce it. You don't have to resort to slander. -BLUE CANARY
      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrV57zJCYAAH6Tg.jpg
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    • The Lilith Manifesto And I'm saying that you are INTERPRETING my behavior as being consistent with being in a cult. And that is all subjective. Like humor. - BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto I'd like to reconsider my position on the wage gap, that is WAY too much evidence against my former position. I won't bring the wage gap as an example again. You're absolutely right about it. It seems that the paid wage discrepancy is indicative of individual life choices. I know a woman who chose to not have children, she pursued her career and became one of the top people at Nestle. So a lot of what you're saying rings true. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell She screencapped the tweets while logged out within 12 secs of it being posted....that can only happen with someone who knows who to search for(being she created a fake account, sent threats, then deleted said account). She is histrionic and attempting faux martrydom for her supposed cause....exactly how Cultists and Religious types act

      Oh and FYI....making a statement of suspicion(aka speculation) in a private conversation is not Libel, it has to be public and do damage to qualify. You know nothing of Laws either I see
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    • The Lilith Manifesto I see, lol. "private conversation"...we know the page reach is low asshole. we just started. we're not going to have as many people reading our posts as say Women's Rights News, or Being Feminist...That's a good burn though. Nice one. - BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto And about the login thing. It's compelling evidence but it's not proof, and definitely not conclusive proof. Is it possible that there's an App out there that helps you find people talking about you or isolate certain conversations in a short amount of time? And then there's always the unlikely possibility that she may have luckily stumbled upon what was being said.

      I've subjected myself to enough Badger podcasts and "This Week In Stupid" and even Chapin's Infernos, to know how you MRAs feel about false rape allegations...so let's use that as an example...

      If a man is accused of rape you want nothing short of a video of the man holding the girl down, and the girl screaming: "PLEASE STOP", right? you want CONCLUSIVE proof....otherwise no conviction...

      So why is it, you can want that for other men and for yourselves but you're willing to believe allegations against Sarkeesian and Wu and Quinn, at the drop of a hat?

      Especially Zoe Quinn, I felt so bad for her, all those memes of Burgers and Fries, and each of your favorite youtubers doing video after video saying: "We don't care that she's a whore"...all the laughing at her...and all that with very minimal proof. -BLUE CANARY
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      Here is the data on online harassment...where Men are actually MORE likely to experience it, just less likely to care/report
      40% of internet users have personally experienced online harassment, from the...
      pewinternet.org
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    • Jimmy Russell The only way to get definitice proof would be to track Anitas or her friends IP address....which she refuses to disclose(which is also suspicious) where....the FBI would have tracked it if they could, but they found it NOT CREDIBLE for a reason
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      1. From OTHER men.
      2. So what? If it doesn't bother those men (i.e) they don't care, as you said...that is admirable and you know...good for you...but maybe you want to try being sensitive enough to acknowledge
      that women care. Women don't care for DNA/Paternity tests right, because (unless something has gone TERRIBLY TWILIGHT ZONE, lol) we are 100% percent sure that our child is ours...so does that mean that we should be insensitive towards the fact that it matters to men? So if we say that it matters to us...respect that. Don't go trying to one-up us by saying you get more of it.
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    • Jimmy Russell Lmfao you're a dumbass... There is such a thing as DUE PROCESS and Standards of Evidence... It's quite different between evidence to out someone behind bars for years and accusing someone of improper behavior(like Brianna getting caught red handed harassing herself on her own Login)...

      For the record...I was falsely accused of rape, almost lost my University career because some chick who slept with me behind her boyfriend's(who I knew nothing about at the time) back claimed rape when he confronted her about infidelity and she attempted to weasel out of it by pulling a rape accusation... I know first hand how much evidence is required by the police, and they ONLY let me go because I my friend walked in on us doing it and filmed 30 secs as a prank(thereby showing she did consent).... So I know that the Standards of Evidence to arrest someone for a horrific crime and jail them SHOULD be higher than accusing them of something petty like histrionic(attention grabbing) behavior... I wasn't asking/demanding for her to be arrested/put in prison.

      But nice False Equivalency Fallacy....you don't even Logic
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    • Jimmy Russell And Lmfao.... Paternity Testing is also a False Equivalency Fallacy when comparing to caring about trolls online

      You people are so predictable....always trying to conflate massively different issues and assert your critics positions(as you just did, nobody one up-ed you....but it clearly shows that it's not an "online misogyny" problem....and you are a fucking sexist bint for claiming only Men do it)
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    • Jimmy Russell You really ARE a full blown Cultist....

      You worship Feminity(this is the Feminist equivalent of a Diety)


      Women(as a class) are your angels....you can see no wrong done by a Woman, you claim only Men do bad things such as online shit-talking(demonstrably false...)

      Your Satan is "the Patriarchy"(an invisible unquantifiable force that supposedly influences everyone's lives) and Masculinity is your demons

      You believe in myths(like the pay gap) without valid evidence

      And then you wonder why I call it a Pseudoreligion....
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    • The Lilith Manifesto You know, and I'm looking out for YOU here, lol. You don't HAVE to call me names. Because...I mean I notice you're running out of things to call me and I don't want to pressure you into coming up with more...so if you could focus on the arguments...it might be less stressful. lol.
      -BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Well I conceded to you on wage gap.You're the man, I submit to you. lol. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Lol you are projecting again... I have actually seen a plethora of evidence against your "Saints" Anita, Brianna and Zoe...(more cult-like behavior displayed where you protect those you see as leaders). These were just breaking the ice when it comes to evidence....and I already stated that I absolutely do not support any death threats, but being threatened does not give any credibility to any of them(or else you would give credibility to SoA who was Doxxed by Quinn you double standard carrying numbskull)

      And stop asserting my position you projecting baffoon... I absolutely will demand justice when proper evidence of a rape is presented, I've been the confidant of survivors.... It's YOU being obstinate and in denial, so much so you have to Straw Man my positions
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    • Jimmy Russell I'm calling your actions Cult-like(and gave multiple examples thereof)....

      You call this page a Safe Space for fucks sake...(Echo Chambers of Ideas are textbook Cult behavior)


      Might as well be telling your followers to avoid "suppressives"(this is what Scientologists do)

      And the thing about a Cult is....those inside one are usually oblivious or in denial(as you are right now)
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    • The Lilith Manifesto "numbskull", "Buffoon", sigh...I suspected this. I placed too much pressure on you. That's okay, baby...you don't have anything to prove to me. We can just cuddle as we focus on arguing the points. LOL. - BLUE CANARY
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Why are you calling them "Saints Anita, Brianna and Zoe", you ARE aware that it is YOU MRAs and Gamergaters who made them famous, right? I had never even heard of Anita until I saw a vid from JordanOwen42, and Brianna Wu I heard of when I was making fun of Bernard Chapin and he was covering something about her...

      And the very first time I heard of Zoe Quinn was through Internet Aristocrat...YOU people made them famous...they are part of YOUR religion...

      Perhaps instead of them being OUR Saints...perhaps they are instead...YOUR Demons. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Lol I thought we were over the Red Herring tactic of critiquing specific word usage... You didn't learn your lesson last time did you?

      Interesting comment since you added nothing of substance to that last one...you avoid my points and focus on the words used, like a "sin" count a religiotard would do. You seek to be offended, you people thrive of that shit
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      Me doth think you're a massive hypocrite....
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Here's the thing right? Zoe Quinn made a couple of games, and instead on focusing on the fact that her games were not very good (because honestly, they aren't) you people made her go into hiding...just like Brianna. You made Anita have to flee her home and get police escorts...these are well known facts. How can you refute these things with all these very visible events having occurred? - BLUE CANARY
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    • Jimmy Russell Bitch please... You keep saying "You people" as if there is some kind of group I participated in to bother those people. I have never had any contact with any of those Women in my life (and never want to)....

      The trolls you are talking about are proba
      bly Baphomet(who fuck with a lot of people for entertainment).

      Like I said WAM(Women Action Media) even came out with a report stating GG is overwhelmingly (ocer 99.6% of tweets/accounts) not harassment....and only a small number(less than 40 IP addresses in total) can be traced the their "harassment".(most of whom are just teenage kids, who aren't really a threat)

      http://blogjob.com/.../gamergate-isnt-a-harassment.../

      Oh and there is significant evidence(as in her Skype backgrounds for several days in a row) that Brianna never actually left home...only claimed to(she used Skype and was in the same room(her living room) each of the days, therefore could not have left)

      Here's the video showing she could not have left...https://youtu.be/AuoQL3m7yJI ...only claimed that to draw media attention(Damsels in Distress again)
      If you needed any kind of legitimate, peer...
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    • Jimmy Russell So if you are trying to associate ME personally for using the #NotYourShield hashtag and the other 40,000k people who used GG hashtag with the less than 20 IPs of Baphomet trolls who've been bothering those Women(several of these trolls have actually been tracked by GG members and reported to authorities, in Fact GG users have caught more trolls than any of Anita's cronies have).....think again
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      Yeah, since the video Brianna made while she was "currently running for her life" was made in her own house, I'm gonna say she didn't go into hiding. I'm pretty sure Anita never went into hiding either. But
      since you want to talk about GamerGate, how about the pro-Gate people that have been harassed? The trans person that Zoe Quinn helped out online? The guys that got sent a knife (with a note saying "kill yourself") and a tainted syringe, respectively? I mean hell, I've never been harassed online by anyone that wasn't a feminist. And they were amazingly cruel.

      It was the GamerGate Twitter members that helped me through panic attacks and anti-Gaters that were trying to make it worse.
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      http://techraptor.net/.../zoe-quinn-censorship-hypocrisy...


      Most of the people I know had a critique of her ACTIONS and had more disappointment in and critique of Nathan Grayson(wanted nothing to do with her or had no desire to talk about her, it's idiots on YOUR side who keep bringing it up when she's irrelevant to the scope of the conversation....you brought up Quinn, not me)

      Quinn herself has been involved in several Doxxing and HellDump campaigns....all well documented

      https://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php?title=Zoe_Quinn

      When you sleep with the dogs(trolls) you eventually get fleas(bit)....

      I personally want to discuss Quinn as little as possible, if not at all... Her and DQ are irrelevant to the scope of things to most people I know
      The ongoing lack of a media circus...
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    • Jimmy Russell Yeah why don't you mention the Bomb Threat that Arthur Chu called in on the GG meetup in DC if you want to deflect onto which side has actually been involved in demonstrable terrorism... That was a threat AGAINST Gamergate, not from it

      If random troll
      s on the internet sending empty threats to your idols is immoral...then what does a terroristic threat(which was actually deemed credible by police, unlike Anita's letter) count as?....
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Is this nutjob still selling the idea that Feminism is a religion? I saw this before I didn't say anything. I was hoping he'd get some rest and wake up to his senses. - Lady Jay
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    • Brett Caton "she beat up absorbing man, because he was endangering the public. "

      http://www.themarysue.com/.../Screen_Shot_2015-02-23_at_1...


      On feminists websites like The Mary Sue, your hero is clearly showing her motivations for breaking his jaw.

      He denounced Feminism.

      He DENOUNCED Feminism.

      The criminal behaviour is a literal afterthought.

      And how did feminists react to the idea of silencing critics with violence?

      They applauded, of course.

      " she knocked out Titania so that she can ensure her peaceful transfer to prison"

      http://i.imgur.com/kDoMPOz.jpg

      Whereabouts in this comic is there evidence to support your argument that FemThor beat up Titania because she was apprehending her? It doesn't exist.

      This is a rationalisation. You'd never tolerate it if it was male Thor doing it - but your female Thor - your Mary Sue - can do no wrong.

      You are a Sophist, and Socrates saw through your bullshit thousands of years ago.
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  • Brett Caton "THE MANCHILD GETS HIS HAMMER BACK."

    Because feminists hate it when men read comics, feminists hate it when men are in comics as other than victims, and feminists do everything they can do to re-make comics in their image.


    But they just. Don't. Buy. Comics.

    See, here's the thing. In a capitalist system, the companies don't make stuff unless you buy the stuff. And you #SocJus types might get your way and force them to do as you say - and then when the sales plummet, they will choose between extinction and ignoring you.

    MOST BUSINESSES AREN'T STUPID.

    Sorry. Maybe when you get to be the dictator of the proletariat, you can choose to have every comic following your bigoted ideology. Until then, they are free to do as they choose.

    That must horrify you.

    "the age of toxic masculinity was to be left behind"

    No, we are still here. For a movement that constantly calls for genocide, you aren't very keen on doing any of the killing yourself. It turns out, yes, you can persuade some men to kill themselves - but the rest of us are here - waking up to your tactics - and we are getting stronger by the day.

    You think you can kill us all? Honey, you have no idea what we are capable of.

    "The Female Thor distinguished herself from her Neanderthal counterpart in that she didn't resort to violence at the drop of a hat"

    What rubbish. Thor was gentle when gentleness was called for. And the female Asgardians were just as violent as the males. You don't seem to have any problem with them!

    So it's only bad when men do it? Got it.

    "Male Thor should have remained hammer-less to maintain an enduring lesson for men and boys to learn"

    That when Feminists get ahold of comics, they make them boring?

    "Male Thor getting a hammer of his own is catering to priviledged fan-boys"

    Uh huh. Catering to their customers is bad in your book. You just don't get it - there's no trace of consciousness in that skull of yours.

    MARVEL DOESN'T OWE YOU ANYTHING.

    YOU DON'T PAY THEM ENOUGH MONEY TO JUSTIFY ALIENATING THEIR FANBASE.

    IF YOU WANT COMICS ABOUT YOUR VAGINAS, NO-ONE IS STOPPING YOU FROM MAKING THEM.

    Feminist screech that they don't need men - then whine about their problems until men fix them.

    Independent women? Just fix the bloody problem! Just pick up pencils or stylus or pens, and draw, or write, or fund others to do it, if there are stories they want to have told.

    Feminists... sit about holding their breath until Daddy fixes it for them.

    So who is the child there, I wonder?
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Little boy, did you ever come to the wrong place. You must think we're like OTHER feminist sites, where you come with misogynistic comments and FORCE them to ban you. And of course you take screenshots so that you can post on MRA pigpens.

      1st.

      Because feminists hate it when men read comics, feminists hate it when men are in comics as other than victims, and feminists do everything they can do to re-make comics in their image.

      -Nope. Totally untrue. We are simply aware of the reality that little boys who absorb fiction where characters abuse women and mistreat the world...grow up to have attitudes that reflect the things they absorbed.

      And it's even worse for little girls because the images and characters given for THEM to absorb by these comics, is that a female bodied person is only useful as a plaything for men.

      Look at the super females of Yesteryear:
      Fantastic Four: Susan Storm is the "Invisible Woman"...because of course a woman is to be inconspicuous and not noticed until she is needed to serve a man. Do me a favor and look up Fantastic Four Sexism, and you'll see the plethora of racist shit written, drawn and printed, by marvel comics in the 70s/80s(?)

      Is it a wonder that we get such sexist comics and films now, it was a generation raised on sexism who are now producing fiction for a NEW generation of young people to absorb, thereby perpetuating the misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, islamophobia, and xenophobia. -BLUE CANARY
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      About Capitalism.
      There's no real reason for Capitalism to still exist. It should have been a stage. Once a country has used that system to amass enough wealth to stabilize its economy, it should graduate to a more socialist system where wealth i
      s redistributed in a just manner. In such a state the focus will be and MUST be on social responsibility and COLLECTIVE LIBERATION OF MARGINALIZED GROUPS in that society, and the removal of the privileges of the dominant oppressive class. This should happen naturally because the less people have to worry about earning money, the more they have time and luxury to ponder about things like morality and injustice.

      This transition is only painful because you racists and misogynists are holding onto the old system(capitalism) with a deathgrip. Just let it go, you'll be happier. Trust me. -BLUE CANARY
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      -"the age of toxic masculinity was to be left behind"


      No, we are still here.

      -No, you are not. You're dinosaurs, and you are dying out. Look around you. More and more men are embracing feministic values like freedom and justice and they are rejecting toxic masculinity and they are basking in the freedom that comes with letting that system do. Soon you will have no choice but to wake up as well. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Alex Dzioba I was going to go point by point and show you how wrong you were but... I've actually seen enough of feminist whining to know you make my arguments for me.
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    • Chris Williams Why should I trust you on a damn thing, little girl? You have no idea, none whatsoever, of reality, and you saying you are aware of it is laughable to me. You hate capitalism, because of its ties to meritocracy, because YOU HAVE NO MERIT. You whine and bitch and moan until SOMEONE ELSE fixes your "problems" for you. Freedom and justice are "feministic" values? HA! You wouldn't know justice if it bit you on the ass, and freedom? You hate it. You want to kill it. Freedom and justice were around long, long before feminism was even a concept in the minds of the racists and sexists who created it.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Okay everyone just calm down. I get that I started a fire here...your 12 month-long campaign of whining has worked and the book (Female Thor) will be canceled, and the rumor is that Male Thor is getting a duplicate Hammer/Mjolnir from another universe. He can go back to settling quarrels with needless egotistical posturing and rampant violence soon enough. smile emoticon.

      Also there's no need to attack me personally. I'm just telling you the truth. And the truth is not always comforting but it always helps you grow.

      And you may not believe this, but FEMINISM is just as much about the liberation of men as well. The problem is that you men are receiving perks from this patriarchal system and you have mistaken those perks for rights. You are as much a victim of it as women are.

      You are just the house slave fending off the rest of us field slaves on behalf of your master as we try to burn the house down. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Brett Caton "-No, you are not"

      You are arguing that I'm not here. That's pretty impressive.


      "You're dinosaurs"

      and now we are here, and are an incredibly successful group of species...

      "you are dying out"

      Word population of men continues to climb.

      "More and more men are embracing feministic values"

      Good grief. Now you are attempting to appropriate values that were around thousands of years before your ideology was thought of?

      And no, the percentage of feminists is going backwards. You just aren't paying attention.

      "they are rejecting toxic masculinity"

      How can they reject something that was never defined in the first place?

      "they are basking in the freedom "

      Oh, is that what we call being expelled from university for sharing a drink and a lay? Because feminists decided when men and women do that, the man automatically has raped the woman - even if the woman is on record, begging the man for sex?

      "Soon you will have no choice "

      Seriously? What will you do? Point a gun at my child's head and tell me to conform or they die?

      You have no power over me. Your fascist fantasies are quite amusing, however.
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    • Brett Caton "your 12 month-long campaign of whining"

      Plummeting sales is not whining. It's called "not buying". You still cannot comprehend how businesses work. People refusing to buy a product is an act of free will - and if you don't like it, stuff you, you can
      't make people buy the things you want them to buy.

      " the book (Female Thor) will be canceled"

      Gosh! We did not see that coming! (*snigger*)

      "there's no need to attack me personally"

      Which is why I haven't. I don't know you personally; you could be a team of chipmunks for all i care.

      " I'm just telling you the truth"

      That would be a first... nah, mate, what you are doing is expressing an opinion. Meanwhile, reality is burying you alive.. but keep trying to ignore it, your delusions are hilarious.

      "FEMINISM is just as much about the liberation of men as well"

      ... which is why it's passed laws putting men who can't pay child care into prison, whilst keeping female rapists out of prison. Yay, feminism is freedom! War is peace!

      " you men are receiving perks from this patriarchal system"

      Like dying for women. Wow. It's muh privy ledge!

      https://upload.wikimedia.org/.../%27Destroy_this_mad...

      Threats to men don't inspire emotion. But if women are threatened, a frenzy is created - men must die to save them!

      And feminists still manage to see that as oppression - while never quite bothering to leave and make their own system. They know they want someone else to do all the work for them.

      "You are just the house slave fending off the rest of us field slaves on behalf of your master"

      At this point do you want a chorus of "The Internationale"?

      Seems to me you want men as your slaves - second class citizens, with laws that only apply to them, punishments only for them, taxes only for them,

      while your kind denounces women who have sex with us as "gender traitors",

      while your kind screams "DEATH TO ALL MEN", and the whipped curs - the male 'allies' cower and hope that if only they can kill enough men in your name, maybe you will kill them last...
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Okay...my mind is fucking blown right now...lol. You are quite LITERALLY missing the point of my argument ON PURPOSE...

      If THIS what you manchildren do on these other Feminist pages? No wonder you get banned.


      Well this page is your worst nightmare. You will not be banned but we intend to expose you misogynists for the morons that you really are.

      And I wasn't talking about MEN being dinosaurs...I was talking about the MACHO men. The misogynistic males who hold onto Toxic Masculinity, even though it's no longer beneficial from an evolutionary standpoint.

      What use is that hyper-macho posturing in the modern age, you no longer have to compete with other tribes for hunting ground and mating rights.

      Embracing the remnant of that stage (when it was needed for our species survival) is just stupid at this point...you are LITERALLY acting like cavemen.

      And the irony is you are attacking the VERY MOVEMENT that is attempting to free you.

      -You no longer have to use violence to protect your gains.
      -You no longer have to subjugate women deprive them of their rights and freedoms and humanity, farming us for babies, in order to maintain a healthy number of offspring,
      (in fact it's arguable that it was ever the ONLY option, but it is the option that you men chose...but that's in the past...the question is how do we move forward?)

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    • The Lilith Manifesto And will you just calm down. Nobody's going to be pointing any guns at anyone's head. I'm saying that you will have no choice because the environment around you will encourage growth of consciousness and betterment of character.

      Once everyone around
      you stops making sexist comments and perpetuating rape culture...making disparaging jokes at the expense of gay and transpeople, and stop using words like girl, and "pussy" as synonyms for weakness...

      Once everyone around you stops doing this, in order to function in society, you will naturally stop doing these things as well. That's all I was saying. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Chris Williams Ah yes, I forgot that they opened up a gender studies factory recently. No seriously, though, what jobs can you get with that degree?
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Well there are some in the movement who are working at getting gender studies to be officially recognized as a science and historical study. It's a long hard fight because (as evidenced by your lack of respect for it) people don't value a study where the focus is not on the achievement of Cis-white-males.

      But gender studies is more than a class, it changes your life. You end up like Rowdy Roddy Piper in that old school movie my Dad showed me. Where he put on those shades and he could see all the subliminal messages that were influencing everyone. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Chris Williams So you are admitting that gender studies brainwashes people? Alrighty then. Social "sciences" aren't scientific if they do not accurately use the scientific method and peer-review. You do not mold the facts to your opinions. You mold your opinions to the facts.
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      If your mind wasn't so poisoned by toxic masculinity, you wouldn't be so belligerent and excessively combative and you might learn the many things that feminism has to teach.
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    • Eli Herstal Gender studies 'frees' people? Yeah, FROM EMPLOYMENT.
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    • Eli Herstal It's like every post you make is a mishmash of buzzwords other daffy, uneducated cunts say on youtube.
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    • Eli Herstal I can define it, Chris Williams- "Male and not apologizing for it".
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Good thing for you, BC is lead admin. I would have banned the whole lot of you about three comments in. - Xenia Onotopp
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    • Chris Williams Haha, yes. Of course. Can't have a challenge to the narrative. Might get people thinking critically, here.
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    • Eli Herstal Good for you, we live in a world that pities you lackwits. I would have confined you degenerates to the salt mines about two 'patriarchy's' out of your Liberal Arts college.
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    • Brett Caton Compare that with Science, where if they can't define a term they are using, it's seen as a terrible problem, and people work their entire lives just to make a definition a tiny bit more precise.

      Feminism is about feelz - not facts. It doesn't define
      any of it's terms but the members just feel someone else has done it - somewhere - so they can re-define everything on the fly.

      In Australia, for example, the Prime Minister Gillard accused her opposition leader of being a misogynist. He pointed out he clearly wasn't, by the dictionary definition. So she made a call and the dictionary was re-written to make her correct retrospectively.

      "the MACHO men"... but not the macho women? Because I've known lots of women who were more butch than I am. Feminists will never attack them, because there's no concept of toxic Femininity; whatever women do is good - and of course, masculinity, itself, is the enemy.

      Some feminists openly call for genocide. Others just quietly whip up hatred towards men, whilst denying that's what they are doing.

      They use what's called "blood libels". Lies that feel true to them, but ones they never prove to be true. Then when you point it out, they say they are only repeating what they heard - then the minute you are gone, they go back to it.

      They feel true - so they are.

      So we have cavemen running baby factories, not men dying to protect their women and children. We have women as prisoners in some giant camp, not willing members of tribes who acted like agents and had the same choices men had.

      There are societies today which pretty much haven't changed since that era. The women from those tribes would gladly kill you, and eat your marrow - tasty stuff!

      So what is it feminism has done for us?

      "You no longer have to use violence to protect your gains" - ahh, yes, the rule of law - which according to you was a Patriarchy. Go, men, go!

      "-You no longer have to subjugate women... in order to maintain a healthy number of offspring"

      And that's called medicine - which was overwhelmingly done by men - we really do rock!

      So it looks like every benefit you can think of was done by men? Who in your mind, were doing it - somehow - to oppress women?

      Huh.

      Reality; how does it work?
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      Just saying.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto First of all Feminism doesn't discount or dismiss things that men have done for women. There have been a lot of men who were ahead of their time in terms of progressive thinking.
      And what Prime Minister Gillard did, if that is true, is funny yet wrong,
      what makes you think she represents us...

      And feminists don't advocate for the gendercide of males, you rambling lunatic. If you're talking about "Femitheist" who was campaigning for National Castration Day and eradicating 90% of the men on the planet and keeping the remaining 10 percent in Breeding camps...she clearly stated that she is NOT a Feminist. Her ideas are her OWN, and for the record, I hate that bitch more than you do.

      How would you feel if we define YOUR movement, by morons who did and said horrible things that people connected to YOU...you know...Elliot Rodgers, George Sodini...no? okay then, don't do it to us. - Lady Jay
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    • Eli Herstal Except one of you... just did that exact shit, Lady Jay. You guys really suck at policing your own cultists, y'know.
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    • Alex Dzioba Don't need to invoke Femetheist.

      #killallmen anyone?
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    • Eli Herstal If you can hashtag #yesallmen, then we can certainly say #yesallfeminists. What's it like when your movement fails logically in every way?
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Alex Dzioba, it's just a name. If you called yourself Vlad The Impaler on a page you admin, we would hardly expect you to slaughter people by the thousands would we? - Xenia Onotopp
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    • Eli Herstal You don't, sure. When do you plan on publicly decrying those? I tell you what- you feminists do your job and publicly decry and shame the scummy elements of your faith. I'll openly call out genuine misogynists and pigs. Deal?
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      Ever feel like you're the stupid one? Ever feel like you're NOT...
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Wait a minute...since when has it been our job to decry lunatics? Was it your job to decry George Sodini, or that recent nutcase who shot two women at a theater where they were showing the (very feminist) Amy Schumer RomCom, Trainwreck? - Lady Jay
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    • Eli Herstal Uh, yes. And every sane person in the world decried them. Dumbass.
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    • Alex Dzioba To ward off the transparent follow up: Yes we also decry Elliot Roger, however he wasn't an MRA. He was an anti-PUA.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Actually, you HAD to decry those people, because the public had no problem believing the types of Rodgers and Sodini were MRAs. But conversely everyone knows that Feminism is a legit movement for equality and the fruits of feminist labor is being reaped and enjoyed by society every day. We have a bit more wiggle room when idiots do things and invoke our name. We don't HAVE to decry and disown the crazies, everyone KNOWS they're not ours.
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    • Eli Herstal No, actually they wear your name proudly and not a single damn one of you pipes up to stop it, you just try and justify it.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Yes but I just told you. They can wear our name and do these things and no one will be fooled because feminism with all its accomplishments and its ongoing fight to free not only women but ALL oppressed people, has ALREADY laid the foundation of credibility and established public trust (whether you want to acknowledge that or not)...

      It's the reason why if you go to a Gaming convention and a Booth has the Feminist logo, no one feels threatened...but you saw what happened when the badgers unveiled that GG banner.

      Don't blame feminism for having built a good relationship with the public. Maybe if you spend less time hating on women and more time proving that you're not misogynistic machismo, you won't be under fire everytime some insane person shoots up a school or movie theatre, while declaring how much they hate women and girls.
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    • Eli Herstal You misunderstand. I don't hate women. Feminists are not 'women'. You do not represent them all, you do not speak for them all, you are not their governing body. I dislike feminists. Male, female, and anything in between.

      You strictly LIE about what feminism was. If you truly cared about all people, you would call yourself Egalitarians. However, you instead chose the wrong cult.
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    • Alex Dzioba How about this... If you truly believe in equality, start pushing for infant genital mutilation of boys to be just as illegal as it is for girls. Push to either end the draft or expand it to women as well. Push for true equality in the family courts, not the blatant injustice *FEMINISTS* pushed to institute. Push for false rape accusation to be punishable by the same sentence as rape. Push for LPS to become just as available for men as you want abortion to be available for women.

      Until you actually push for things of that nature, don't insult our intelligence by saying you are for equality.

      Btw: Apologize for the Calgary Expo fiasco. Alison and the other Honey Badgers deserved far better than the petty display feminists put on there. All because they wouldn't toe the line of the victim narrative, feminists had to make them actual victims.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto The day feminism is no longer needed people will no longer call themselves feminists. Until then if you stand for equality, I'm sorry to inform you that by definition you are a feminist. And the beautiful thing about it is that feminism is in Equal measure dedicated to the liberation of women. Women cannot be equal until they are liberated. Once women are liberated I think most people will naturally transition into calling themselves Eagalitarians. - Lady Jay
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    • Eli Herstal That's a failure of logic. Basically you are needed as long as you say you are needed, and your existence justifies your need. Fail. Women ARE equal. You have every right a man does in the US and any civilized country. You have to resort to flat out LIES to say otherwise. MEANWHILE- Saudi Arabia.
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    • Alex Dzioba We already call ourselves egalitarians because we believe in equality. You believe in doublethink with no factual basis. You traded the God of Abraham for the God of Feminism.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Kaley Cuoco, Katey Perry, Taylor Swift...ever notice whenever a misinformed person first denounces feminism, and is then informed about what feminism really is...they become femnists? It must make you MRAs REALLY angry. That's why you're spewing so much bitterness and venom on this page. It's because you KNOW your battle is already lost. People are waking up to the truth.
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    • Alex Dzioba I don't spew venom. I have not personally insulted anyone nor have I stated that I hate anyone.

      And just because the outrage gets someone to apologize doesn't mean that they freely changed their mind. Feminists sent a deluge of hate mail to all those listed when they "denounced" feminism (usually only by saying they weren't a feminist, not that feminism was wrong or evil).


      That is whining, not objective reason.
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    • Brett Caton " Prime Minister Gillard did, if that is true, is funny yet wrong, what makes you think she represents us"

      Feminist groups were quite happy with her. Point to the feminist groups that objected.


      There are good feminists - but they are in the tiny minority, have no power, and are typically ostracised by other feminists.

      " feminists don't advocate for the gendercide of males"

      Oh right, a "no true scotsman" argument. How novel.

      The thing is, I lived through the time of the feminist publishing houses, and browsed through feminist bookshops and attended feminist conferences and marched in their marches and sang their songs.

      And the feminists who did say all men should be exterminated - either violently or by selective abortions - were always tolerated. No, more than that. They were ENABLED.

      You don't print books that advocate such things when you have a tiny budget and limited workforce unless you at least somewhat agree with them. You certainly don't invite them to feminist conferences.

      You are like those communists who argue Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot weren't 'true' communists, because currently it is inconvenient for them to be. You are either lying to yourself - or know better, and are lying to us. Which is it, I wonder?

      " If you're talking about Femitheist" - no, but it's interesting how many feminists followed her. Just like there are feminists who love Valerie Solanas, who advocate the 'good rape' hypothesis, and who purchase copies of "The Female Man" and "The First Sex" - which still get smashing reviews by feminists, by the way.

      I don't see any difference between your lot and the Holocaust deniers. You say No True Nazi did those things? They never happened, or even if they did, you didn't get your hands dirty so it doesn't matter if you wear the Swastika?

      How stupid do you think we are?

      "How would you feel if we define YOUR movement, by morons who did and said horrible things that people connected to YOU"

      At this point you are supposed to find such people. The fact that you couldn't, but merely repeated long debunked propaganda, is very revealing.

      You see, we police OUR movement. We chuck the nutcases out of our groups. You give them positions of power. You put them in charge of teaching classes, like Dworkin. You publish their hatespeech, like Solanas.

      Then when we object, you move the goalposts and pretend they weren't true feminists, or their hatred was 'ironic'. You protect the hatred and denounce only those who point it out.

      "the public had no problem believing the types of Rodgers and Sodini were MRAs"

      So you are holding US responsible for the lies YOU TELL?

      Jesus bloody Christ!

      Talk about Chutzpah!

      " if you go to a Gaming convention and a Booth has the Feminist logo, no one feels threatened"

      Rubbish. But you don't count those who are threatened as people. You could use exactly the same logic about Nazi flags.

      "you saw what happened when the badgers unveiled that GG banner"

      Yes. Your kind harassed them and bullied them. You asked a question that was relevant to them, they politely answered you - and you couldn't stand it.

      Burn the Unbelievers! Kill the Infidels!

      We've seen it all before.

      "Don't blame feminism for having built a good relationship with the public"

      It hasn't. It's played on the Damsel in Distress card to get into power. It's taken over universities to the point where people can be dismissed from their posts if they disagree with it's orthodoxy, and created rules that only apply to men that make every male in danger of false rape accusations - whilst protecting females from true ones.

      It's created a climate of fear, persuaded men to hate their own masculinity, and exported male genital mutilation to Africa - to the point where men are held down and cut against their will.

      It lies, and it lies, and it lies.

      And we've seen that all before.

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      You demonise men, and paint women as helpless victims, endlessly in need of a fainting couch, terrified of dissent.

      You make your weakness, your inability to form rational arguments, into law with terms like 'safespace'.

      You say you are empowering women whilst treating them like infants.

      You do more harm to them than we ever have.

      "if you spend less time hating on women"

      I haven't spent any time on it - we are men and women, and we oppose you, arm in arm. And you confuse hatred of an ideology with hatred of all women - and put that confusion into dictionaries and laws and university lectures.

      You teach that 2+2=3 today, and 2+2=5 tomorrow, and claim that it always equalled 5, and then the next day, it was always 3, and you all nod and Listen and Believe.

      But the truth doesn't care about your lies, and it doesn't care about your belief, and deep down you know it, and you hate those who speak the truth because it whispers to that little sliver of logical thinking that yet survives within you.

      The part you suppress with all your might, terrified it might prove you were wrong all along....
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  • Ogami Itto So, the real Thor is back. Jane Foster can die!
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Why must she die? I think she should not only live, but she should remain the real Thor. Odinson himself accepted her as such. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Ogami Itto As a temp. Also, cancer, magnified by mjolnir's erosion of her mortal frame. Then there is the fact that it will propel Thor's story, telling back his actual name from the machinations of Nick Fury.
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  • Callan Elliott Male Thor remaining hammer-less because power isn't a right it's earned... You make it sound like we don't already know that...

    A 'new Era was upon us', what one where creativity died because of the insecurities of tumblrinas? Seriously, if ya want fe
    minist superheroes, MAKE! YOUR! OWN! Also, please define toxic masculinity. Seems more like vapid windbagging to me. A buzzword to be thrown out when you don't like something, or it makes your panties squelch and you can't or won't admit it to yourself.

    Tall talk about catering to fan-boys when femXThor was simply catering to feminists.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Femthor catered to everyone, not just women. Men with feminist education loved her. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Callan Elliott She could have been an interesting experiment, but her character was much too 'political' if you catch my meaning. Anyway What about the other points I raised about how feminists seem to only want to co-opt rather than create. And where's that definition of 'toxic masculinity'?
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    • Eli Herstal "Men with feminist education" You mean 'your indoctrinated cucks'.
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    • Brett Caton " Femthor catered to everyone, not just women. Men with feminist education loved her"

      I had a feminist education - a lot of MRAs did. She didn't cater to me. In fact, she didn't cater to many people at all - which is why the sales collapsed.


      They want to make money - hard to do that whilst alienating your audience in favour of a group that doesn't consume your product.
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    • Callan Elliott I was RAISED by a feminist, then I discovered Third-Wave and was like 'fuck this'
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  • Eli Herstal Sorry you don't know stunt writing when you see it, and you can't make a strong independent woman without riding the coattails of a man. Go home, feminists- no one wants you around.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto I am home. This is a feminist page. -BLUE CANARY
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    • Eli Herstal No, I mean the cage that someone left open. Society was doing fine until your third wave got loose.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto Yeah, guys like Elliot Rogers writing anti-woman declarations before going on a killing spree...

      Women being


      -kept out of STEM fields
      -harassed on the streets
      -plagued with death threats when they try to enter Gaming
      -paid about 1/3rd less than men for the same work...
      -given almost no coverage for their team sports
      -raped and assaulted somewhere in America something like every two minutes...

      Yeah society is doing GREAT! - BLUE CANARY
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    • Eli Herstal -You are not being kept out of stem fields, you are choosing not to.

      -You are not being 'harassed' as often as you like to think. A compliment is not 'harassment', it's just not something a seacow like yourself is accustomed to. I can imagine the co
      nfusion.

      -Women have been in gaming for years, the only ones screaming about 'death threats' are the ones trying to score free money and extort developers. I get at least one death threat every time I play a shooter on XBox. Report it to authorities like a normal person and keep playing.

      -You are not paid 1/3 less than men. This is a lie, and the very study you use to prove this even states that it is a matter of women choosing different work. It is ILLEGAL to be paid less to do the same work based on gender, age, race, nationality, veteran status, disability, or anything else.

      -Sorry, you can't force your sports to be more enjoyable.
      -It's actually far less than that, according to the FBI.

      Society is doing fine. Your just fucking suck at adapting to it, wretch.
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      See attitudes like this is why most people misunderstood WHY we were angry at the Rosetta Landing Scientist Matt Taylor's unfortunate fashion choice.


      imagine an alternate universe where women are the majority of people in STEM, and not only that but in that universe men are deemed too emotional or too stupid to be in STEM...

      And a guy shows up in a lab and all the women there ask him: "Are you here to fix the plumbing or are you the janitor? Another asks: "Can you change the Gallon at the dispenser for me?" and just to make them shut up, you go and remove the empty jug and then bend down to lift the new heavier one...at the corner of your eye you notice that they are all staring at your triceps. and some are glaring at your butt. You are now thinking that this environment ISN'T for YOU...

      Now...imagine that one of these women is part of a team that lands a spacecraft on an asteroid...and she shows up in a dress, with drawings of Male Plumbers, and Firemen, and Janitors wearing G-strings...

      How WELCOME will you feel in that profession?
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    • Eli Herstal You saw a shirt with women on it, and felt threatened because it doesn't match your idea of fat acceptance. News Flash- men are allowed to like the appearance of women.

      If you let one person's opinion keep you out of a career field, you are better of
      f slounging around and blogging, living off the state. I wouldn't trust you with a boiled egg.

      These sound like first world problems. You have as much a choice in where you work as men do. Just because you're repeating stories you've heard in TedX talks, doesn't make them universal fact.

      Also, maybe you haven't come to terms with the uselessness of your gender studies degree. I laugh at your stupidity. I laugh heartily.
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    • Eli Herstal Also, what's it like being a 'feminist' when you're really just one crime away from being labeled a hate group?
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    • The Lilith Manifesto I'm sorry are WE the ones going on killing sprees and making articles saying: "If you see a woman on the road, run the bitch down" ? The Southern Poverty Law Center has classified the MRAs as a hate group...so what you're doing right now is called projecting. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Eli Herstal I'm sorry WE are the ones drowning our babies in the tubs. I'm sorry WE are the ones screaming 'Kill all Men'. I'm sorry WE are the ones lying about rape statistics. I'm sorry WE are the ones that don't understand reality, and project our personal failures on an entire gender.

      You DO also know that the SPLC has lost credibility and the FBI and intelligence agencies can no longer use their material, right?

      Go drink something that you clean the tub with.
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    • Eli Herstal Seriously, you feminists have the intellectual honesty of David Duke's Holocaust History.
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    • The Lilith Manifesto I'm gonna have to ask for a citation on the SPLC losing credibility with the FBI, babe. lol. I've got the suspicion you're stretching more than Plastic Man, plying tug of war with Elastigirl. - BLUE CANARY
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    • Eli Herstal I'll have to remind you that it has never been a credible source with the FBI. A group of analysts that are capable of finding their own data don't lean on an organization with a political agenda.

      http://www.cnsnews.com/.../fbi-weve-not-made-endorsement...
      The FBI's 'Hate Crimes' web page, which includes under 'Resources' the 'Southern Poverty Law Center." (Web screenshot.)
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    • Chris Williams Also, Elliot Roger was a psychopathic misanthrope who hated everyone, and killed more men than women, you liar.
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    • Callan Elliott Tell me, this is to either Lady Jay or Blue Canary, how is it women are being kept out o STEM when the vast majority of biology degrees are held by women and they enjoy a 2-to-1 hiring advantage over men?
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  • Terell Brock This doesn't really make much sense as he wasn't a man child and respected Lady thor as an equal. I really don't see how he was a Neanderthal especially considering how he told everyone to accept female thor. He doesn't even have a hammer anymore ,he used one hammer in one fight.
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  • Christopher Ian King Yeah, didn't Odin teach Thor that his power wasn't a birthright, but a burden of responsibility by taking away his powers and casting him to Earth? like twenty minutes into the Thor movie? Doesn't he do that countless times in the comics? Because Thor Odinson has a penchant for being a spoiled little asshole with a cheerio for a brain?

    This is a reoccurring theme in Thor. He acts like a dick, Odin punishes him and he learns his lesson. I don't know why this is a surprise.
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  • Prentice Reid "The Female Thor distinguished herself from her Neanderthal counterpart in that she didn't resort to violence at the drop of a hat. Whenever possible, she employed kindness and understanding first "

    If you want comics with absolutely nothing happening
    in them except negotiations and kindness and understanding and you are so much more intelligent than these authors then make your own comics and let us know how successful you are. Stop leeching off of men's accomplishments and stop being such a parasitic movement. Create something of your own rather than demanding men shit over their own innovations by molding them to your whiny specifications.
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  • Kyle McNamee Um. This was predictable. No main timeline character change is permanent. Things always revert back to what they should. So instead of throwing a tantrum that we got back what is ours, maybe take this as a lesson and start supporting the characters you already have, and create new ones.

    Or don't. The tantrums I see coming out of the fem community are amusing. Kidding. Kind of. I actually encourage you to create original female leads. Ones that shouldn't leave your control as Thor never should have left ours
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    What feminists think about what men enjoy is irrelevant.
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  • Callan Elliott Isn't showing women as kind and understanding sexist because patriarchy or some shit? Gender is a social construct after all.
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  • Zander Guzman Sad that such hate for an actual mythological character exists
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  • Emily Shae Klepper This is the most fucking cancerous page I've come across. You guys are worse and more annoying than anti abortionists.
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  • Chris Norton Everyone who disagrees with me is an MRA!
    Hahaha
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  • Jon Michael Reynolds Wow I can't believe this page is for real and serious. They're incredibly sexist, consescending, and mean.

    An MRA invasion they say? Hah! Literally no one gives a shit about MRAs besides tumblr feminists inbetween reblogs of Dr. Who.


    Why so salty over a comic book character? If you don't like it go read something else.
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