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[–][deleted] 50ポイント51ポイント  (50子コメント)

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were you uh... were you going to include a breakdown of why it's a stupid phrase and/or a logical discussion on how it's dismissive and counterproductive or... were you just going to hope to let people know you had an opinion about something?

[–]Ortus 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

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were you uh... were you going to include a breakdown of why it's a stupid phrase and/or a logical discussion

Only to be accused of mansplaining?

[–]lollerkeet 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

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It's a term used to imply that a person is not only inherently wrong, but not even sufficiently privileged to speak. It's essentially ad hominem via gender.

[–][deleted] 16ポイント17ポイント * (4子コメント)

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Ironically, it's actually a term used to imply a person is TOO privileged to speak. But you're missing my point. The point was that you can't say "I don't like X" as an entire self post. You should include a discussion or rant logically breaking down the thing you dislike to go with it to make it not just self congratulatory circlejerking.

[–]lollerkeet -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

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it's actually a term used to imply a person is TOO privileged to speak.

That's not how privilege works.

[–][deleted] 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

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but it is how "mansplaining" does. The implication of the term "mansplaining" is that the speaker cannot contribute intelligently to the conversation because their perceived privilege makes them blind to a proper understanding of the issue.

[–]xinu 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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I wonder if you and lolerkeet are using privilege differently.

You're using it in the context of gender and gender rights. lolerkeet's works if you use it in the context of their gender privilege, men are not privileged enough to have their opinion matter.

At least that's how I read it. It's the only way that makes sense to me. I could totally be wrong.

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I'm employing clever (yes I am arrogant enough to call my own joke clever) wordplay based on the duel meaning of the word "privilege". He's missing the joke so I'm responding to the point I think he thinks I was making.

[–]captainlavender 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I don't think any time a man opens his mouth in conversation with a woman is "mansplaining". The term is only meant to apply to men who adopt a condescending tone when talking to a woman and then tell her things that are either subjective or stuff she already knows. Most importantly, it's about a man assuming he understands a woman's point of view when in reality he may or may not -- and this assumption disrespects the woman.

A man and a woman can have a lifetime of conversations, even about gender, without a guy ever "mansplaining" anything.

[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (41子コメント)

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It's so self-evidently dismissive and counterproductive, I'm just kind of awed that it's used consistently and without issue.

[–]r0dlilje 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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I have never, ever heard this term. Where do you generally encounter it?

[–]CoreLogic 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

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It's probably because it is a huge red flag to anyone listening to such an individual that they are a nut and should be ignored. Kind of like the insistence of spelling women as womyn.

[–]tdk2fe 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

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I've never heard it outside of reddit. This includes my daily life.

[–]aloofcapsule 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

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This was the first time i'd ever heard it.

[–]monolithdigital 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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and Op is pissed no one else seems to know what it is.

[–]Slep 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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People can always tell when I mix those two up because I never pronounce the 'y' hard enough.

[–]_Kita_ -1ポイント0ポイント  (9子コメント)

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You can actually edit your comment to include this since it's text-based.

[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (8子コメント)

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This is actually the exact discussion I wanted to spark. Too much explanation in the text would bias everyone.

[–]monolithdigital 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

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how about a fucking explanation about what the hell it means, since I've never heard the term before, and it sounds like quite a few others haven't as well

[–]--- 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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How about you check urbandictionary and quit acting like a fucking whiny 10 year old?

[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

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You're like a child, Donny, who wanders into the middle of a movie.

You know just as well as I how to use Google. If you need to google it, though, you probably can't intelligently add to the conversation.

[–]monolithdigital 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

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hey, I'm not the asshole who just posted something and told everyone else to do the work

[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

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No one is making you comment here. If you don't know what it means and aren't curious, then just move on instead of demanding that Reddit force-feed you information.

[–]monolithdigital -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

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Look buddy. You post vague shit. I figure we start a diologue, instead you lose it on members for not knowing some inside phrase you use. Instead of just ignoring it, and not giving you the attention you 'deserve'.

Next time, diem vote and move on I guess.

[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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Lose it? Look, I'm sorry I used an esoteric word. But none of this is me "losing it."

[–][deleted] 39ポイント40ポイント  (22子コメント)

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Mansplaining, in my experience, is when self identified men come into feminist/womanist spaces and try and 'teach/inform/learn' the woman/women present about how they are wrong about something, typically something they aren't wrong about or even as far as their own experiences/lives. Its silly.

Mansplaining happens, and is extremely obnoxious, but I find the name of it problematic. There are plenty of 'womansplainers' out there who do the same shit. Gendered insults are never good things though.

Maybe we should just call them 'splainers'.

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    [–]sidecontrol 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

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    People love to show off expertise. You know, like bow staff skills, computer hacking skills, baking skills, etc.

    I joke, but we are often a merit based society.

    It might be creepy, but I do hope that you take it in stride when a male wants to 'teach' you something. Many of us just want to break the ice with what we know, if you respond with knowledge of whats up, a communal back and forth relationship is what many of us crave.

    If you haven't seen a woman do similar fine. I would not say otherwise. As a male I do not consistently join women dominated groups. Not because they are women dominated, but only because my interests tend not to be women dominated.

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      [–]_Kita_ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      I actually agree - I think gendering it's a bit silly, even if the 'splainers do tend to be men, I've met plenty of women who were 'splainers.

      I even kinda like typing it. Thanks for the suggestion :D

      [–]Terraneaux 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

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      I usually see the term 'mansplaining' used when women are frustrated that their own subjective experiences are not given the same weight as objective fact, and someone points out that their subjective experiences don't necessarily carry the same weight.

      [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

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      I don't think that is necessarily always the case.

      [–]Terraneaux 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Not always. I said 'usually.'

      [–]Smhill 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      IMO, when men think their subjectve experience is objective fact, and think eveyone must, of course, share their opinion, that is what sparks mansplaining. Especially if the dude is the type of know it all described above.

      [–]smort 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Look at the blog post that gave birth to the term. It has been used wrongly in the very first instance and I barely see it getting used "properly".

      [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

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      I see it as a reminder to check a person's own privileges before trying to explain the way the world works regarding an issue that they have privilege in. It makes perfect sense that a person can mansplain, or womansplain, or "whitesplain", or whatever.

      [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      I agree it is a reminder to check one's own privilege, but it is also a gendered insult of a reminder. I'd rather just discuss privilege with 'mansplainers' than tell them they are mansplaining and lead them to believe they are being ignored because they are male, instead of because of the privileged and incorrect assumptions they might be making.

      [–][deleted] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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      So if your ex-wife came along and did that it would be explaining? And if your ex-wife was explaining porn, it would be XXXplaining?

      [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      *exXXXplaining?

      [–][deleted] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

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      Mansplaining is saying "I think (nay, KNOW) you're wrong but I feel that because you're a man you cannot possibly understand how or why so I will use a sexist and derogatory term to completely dismiss everything you said instead of actually engaging the points you made" It's using flagrant sexist arrogance to try to call out what you perceive as flagrant sexist arrogance.

      [–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

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      I'm pretty sure I know what mansplaining is. But, in the interest of defending your position, again, let me respond, again.

      It isn't so much about the other person being a man, but about them coming from a position of privilege and not being willing to unpack their knapsack, so to speak. Like I said previously, 'splaining (as it were) is not a man thing or a woman thing or a white thing or a black thing, but a thing that comes from being unable to recognize one's own privilege when addressing someone who does not experience that same privilege.

      [–]smort 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      It isn't so much about the other person being a man, but about them coming from a position of privilege and not being willing to unpack their knapsack, so to speak. Like I said previously, 'splaining (as it were) is not a man thing or a woman thing or a white thing or a black thing, but a thing that comes from being unable to recognize one's own privilege when addressing someone who does not experience that same privilege.

      So, I guess you do a little privilege comparison thing before your argue? Who's richer? Who had better parents? What complexion are you? What height? Physical attractiveness? Health? History of abuse?

      Basically you need to compare your whole life experience and then what? Decide who's right based on that? Is the one girl with more overall privilege supposed to only nod her head from that point on?

      [–][deleted] -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

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      That is what mansplaining, in the idealized neatly categorized hierarchical world presented by the oversimplified Patriarchy/kyriarchy model would be. But in the actual shades-of-grey advantages-and-disadvantages-to-each-side, everything-weighed-by-circumstance world that exists, it's a sexist term used to dismiss arguments by men that the members of the community dislike.

      If there's a logical flaw in the argument or idea being presented, you can point that out without using the term mansplaining. If the speaker is being needlessly arrogant and presumptuous about your own intellect, you can point THAT out without using the term mansplaining. Just like I can discuss radical feminists without saying "feminazi" at any point and get my point across just as well, or in fact, even better because I'll have to actually respond to the point instead of using a condescending buzzword.

      [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

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      I don't honestly get what you are getting at here. Mansplaining is privilege talking. So instead of using a sexist term, just call out the privilege. Simple as that.

      Unless you are arguing that privilege does not exist, or that patriarchy/kyriarchy is not applicable to the world in which we live, which is untrue. They are not the order of the world, but do describe certain aspects of society. No term to label culture is perfect, certainly, but these terms do describe portions of the shades of grey reality we all share.

      I'm glad you can keep yourself from saying feminazi. What a horrid word. But unless I'm missing your point, I don't think anything I've said has indicated I agree with the term mansplaining. If you are implying I am, well, I'm not. If you aren't and I'm just reading you wrong at 2am, my apologies.

      [–]pcarvious 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      The problem is that it's often used to disqualify someone's viewpoint. If I, as a white male enter into a discussion on bullying for example I'm often pushed aside when I talk about racial power dynamics. Even if I have studied the material surrounding it, because I am perceived to have not experienced the event I cannot voice an accurate opinion on it. That's how I've had the term mansplaining used when I enter into discussions.

      [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      But unless I'm missing your point, I don't think anything I've said has indicated I agree with the term mansplaining.

      So you do no. This was my bad. Some of your early posts seemed to indicate to me that you did. But that was my reading/posting at these hours doing ME in.

      [–]clever_name 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      You're right, but it just isn't as funny when you make it politically correct. Of course you could say that about most off-color jokes.

      [–]OThomson 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Well thats nice to hear.

      [–]KeyboardChemistry 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

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      http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mansplain

      Lmfao, while that is really sexist and I'd never heard the word before-- this is pretty hilarious.

      One of my housemates will argue that any dumbass thing he says or thinks he remembers is 100% true, to the death. And when it turns out he's wrong, it isn't even a big deal to him and he will do it again 5 minutes later. Most annoying fucking thing ever.

      [–]earynspieir 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Some people are just completely incapable of understanding that they might be wrong, like they believe only correct beliefs will stick to their minds or escape from their lips. My mother is like this, and if she thinks she remembers something it doesn't matter if my father, my brother and I are 100% sure that she is wrong, not even if we all agree on the same alternate story.

      Mansplaining is a new term to me, but it seems to follow the same principle as xkcd 385.

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      Number 6 is the definition I've seen used the most - the act of a feminist trying to explain a feminist issue in a way that shows it affects men too.

      [–]gigashadowwolf 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

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      Furthermore I hate the new image of "man" as a whole. Men have become children in modern society.

      • We've got the "mancave" which is always just a place to play video games, look at titties and pretend like you are still in highschool.

      • Every other commercial on TV is some man who is acting like a two year old while his stern wife puts up with him.

      • Look at IKEA's new mantopia or whatever. It's a nursery for MEN! WTF?!? It's not like men are not equipped to shop. It's just that couples are less likely to buy useless crap than individuals and you know it.

      [–]skier69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      you forgot manscaping and man-purses.

      [–]captainlavender 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      I've noticed this infantilization with women but never connected it with media talking down to men. Interesting! I guess society has decided how your immaturity will look based on your gender -- girls are supposed to act like the characters from Sex in the City, and guys are supposed to act like Jason Segel in everything ever.

      (I like his characters, but they are kinda... similar.)

      [–]shardsofcrystal 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      I have never heard this term before and can't even imagine what it could reasonably mean. Maybe it's just the people you are hanging out with that use it.

      [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      also reminds me of futurama - "do you know how hard it is to be a fembot pretending to be a femputer in a manbot manputer world?"

      [–]OfficerMudkip 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

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      Obviously not enough to actually say why.

      [–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

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      Like I said to easterberry:

      It's so self-evidently dismissive and counterproductive, I'm just kind of awed that it's used consistently and without issue.

      [–]YesImSardonic 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

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      I've never heard it before now. Where is it used constantly?

      [–]Hindu_Wardrobe 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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      'consistently'

      [–]YesImSardonic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      Fair enough, but even with the word-swap the gist remains the same. "Consistent", in my experience, has been "consistently unused".

      [–]catgrenade 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      i've never heard the term, and i wouldn't use it. i hate the 'joke' that is inserting the word man into a word. it's just a tired joke, and i can see why 'mansplaining' would be offensive to you. as a feminist- i would never use it. as a person who dislikes lazy humor- i would still not use it.

      [–]NUMBERS2357 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      I think there maybe should be a term along the lines of "feminist-splain", because I see a lot of feminists who take the attitude they disdain among the people they call "mansplainers". Like, "I read a feminist blog so im an expert, LET ME EXPLAIN TO YOU HOW THIS WORKS".

      But really its probably just a general human trait.

      [–]basstronomy 1ポイント2ポイント * (1子コメント)

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      I sure am glad there are all these men in this thread here to explain to us what mansplaining is.

      [–]atfcih 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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      It's kind of silly -- it just means shaving fur from a man's junk . It's called "mansplaining" because it leaves the skin all nice and smoothed out, like planing your very personal "wood".

      [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (30子コメント)

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      Really? Because it describes a pretty specific behavior pattern that's worth calling out.

      [–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (28子コメント)

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      Just like men, women exhibit lots of behavior patterns. Should men make up words for them, and if we do, will you defend them as a "behavior pattern that's worth calling out"?

      Or should we eliminate gender-based insults altogether? That's what I preach and practice.

      [–][deleted] -1ポイント0ポイント  (27子コメント)

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      There are no behavior patterns that women have that are both symptomatic of their systemically enforced dominance over men and that reinforce that systemic domination. In that context, it is appropriate to address the inherent power imbalance in the relationship as demonstrated by the exhibited behavior.

      There is no such equivalents for women's behavior, because there is no such power imbalance, it doesn't go that way. When our society is no longer patriarchal, this will no longer hold true. Until then, suck it up, deal with it, and realize that if you're hearing this term, it's probably because you're behaving despicably. It means that you're either doing it, or witnessing it without caring and therefore giving it your tacit approval.

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      I'm a feminist and don't agree with much of r/MR. Let me get that out first.

      However, men experience oppression at the hands of patriarchal assumptions about gender roles. Men do experience oppression, and do experience systemic disadvantage due to their gender (primarily in family court/divorce stuff, also in health related issues). Just because it isn't the most common type of gender oppression (that unfortunate award goes to women and gender variant people), it does occur and it is problematic.

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        [–]Terraneaux 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

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        I'm a 'feminist' and I agree with much of r/MR. What now?

        [–]lollerkeet 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

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        Then you're probably in favour of equality between sexes - calling yourself a feminist doesn't do you justice.

        [–]basstronomy 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

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        feminists are in favor of equality between sexes.

        [–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        The dictionary definitions are equality for women, and women's advocacy.

        And there isn't any feminist office or program that's involved in equality for men.

        Feminism being about equality between the sexes, sounds nice but in reality there is no evidence of it being so.

        [–]basstronomy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        "equality for women". I should ask you, since you seem to think that feminism isn't about gender equality, what exactly you think they want women to be equal to, if not men.

        [–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

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        This is basically the exact attitude that drives me nuts. The logic goes - and please, correct me if I'm wrong:

        "you're privileged. If I, as a non-privileged person, think you're saying something privileged, I'm right. So shut up, deal with it, and shut up. And even if you're not doing anything wrong, someone else probably is and you also have a penis, so shut up. And quit your complaining."

        It's a cop-out and a sexist one at that.

        [–]basstronomy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

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        You're wrong. Mansplaining is the tendency of men to explain things to women that don't need explaining, generally due to the woman in question's knowledge of the issue. It is generally the result of a patronizing (intentionally or not) attitude on the part of the mansplainer, combined with (conscious or unconscious) assumptions that the woman cannot possibly understand such a complex issue.

        In short, it is the tendency of men to act like the women they're interacting with are automatically inferior in knowledge and intellect.

        [–]smort 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Yeah you can put any kind of disagreement whatsoever between a man and a woman under that description and since you're guilty by virtue of being accused, there really is no proof needed.

        [–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

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        OK, so, like I said up there

        Just like men, women exhibit lots of behavior patterns. Should men make up words for them, and if we do, will you defend them as a "behavior pattern that's worth calling out"?

        [–]basstronomy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

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        I suppose that would depend on the specifics. Saying "behavior pattern" is so unbelievably general I have no real idea what you're talking about.

        In my experience, I can't think of anything that's a female equivalent to mansplaining. It should also, of course, be noted that a lot of the problem with mansplaining is that it's a problem not just because it's some individual guy being a dick, but because it's a part of a society wide pattern of disregarding women's experiences, opinions, and knowledge solely because of their gender.

        [–]akgk271 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I find this line of thought to be a bit too reductive. "Women's experiences and knowledge are disregarded because of their gender" is accurate, but not as informative as it could be. The primary causal mechanism underlying the problem is the creation of gender roles and expectations. The existence of gender roles and corresponding expectations means that certain domains become seen as women's areas and men's areas. When discussing matters that fall into the domain perceived as belonging to the opposite gender, an individual's experiences, opinions and knowledge will tend to be disregarded or given lesser weight. So, a man can and will experience a similar type of discrimination in a realm perceived as belonging to women, such as child care. This is one of the things that is meant when we say that "the patriarchy hurts men too," but we often don't explore the implications of that statement in sufficient depth.

        All of the preceding brings us back around to the issue of "mansplaining". While it is accurate to say that men exhibit a tendency to explain things to women in a patronizing manner, I don't think the appropriate corrective action when one is facing this problem is to respond with an insult or rebuke (as "mansplainer" is commonly used).

        I have also, though far less frequently, seen the term used in the context of suggesting that all men are incapable of being feminist or understanding issues affecting women. I see this as another form of associating an area of knowledge with gender, such that feminism is a woman's area where it's acceptable to discredit the knowledge of a person based on his genitals.

        [–]smort 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        There are no behavior patterns that women have that are both symptomatic of their systemically enforced dominance over men and that reinforce that systemic domination.

        Right. How about women who tell dads how to bring up their kids, because he can't really know? How about women who use the man-up stuff? Or how about women who think men who disagree with them on any gender-related debate must be ignorant and blinded by their privilege?

        But I forgot, we live in the patriarchy which means that everything bad happening to a woman is so much worse than anything bad happening to a man.

        [–]Ortus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        There are no behavior patterns that women have that are both symptomatic of their systemically enforced dominance over men and that reinforce that systemic domination.

        Yes there is. There is the whole institution of "Romance"

        [–]EvilPundit -5ポイント-4ポイント  (8子コメント)

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        There are no behavior patterns that women have that are both symptomatic of their systemically enforced dominance over men and that reinforce that systemic domination.

        There are plenty. False rape accusations, false accusations of domestic violence, and false accusations of child abuse - to name just three.

        Unlike alleged "mansplaining", which at most can annoy its targets, all of the above carry serious legal and social sanctions for their targets. They both instantiate and extend women's power over men in our misandrist society.

        [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

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        They both instantiate and extend women's power over men in our misandrist society.

        Wow, dude. If you think our society puts women in a position advantage over men in everyday life, you need to talk to someone about rape apology or the street harassment of women that goes on 24/7, or something. Pretending that male privilege doesn't exist doesn't help anyone.

        [–]Ortus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        It's not sexist because it's true!!

        FTFY

        [–]Kandoh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I have never heard this word before in my life.

        [–]okiyama 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        This is a thing?

        [–]Cdtco 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I've never heard of this. And if I think it means what it means, I've never done it.

        [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I has a friend who my gf says is a 'know it all', i note 'but arent i also a know it all?'

        she says, yes, but at least you are almost always correct!

        its this primal urge to make sure that people arent wrong, and that everyone has the maximal amount of information at all times.

        No one has ever accused me of mansplaining, of course I avoid online discussions usually, especially feminist ones. I just can't rise up to engage.

        [–]Nekomata 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Great another silly word, like Manscaping or guyliner.

        [–]DOGA -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Cool story, bro?

        [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Turn it around

        womansplaining or femsplaining!

        [–]Gareth321 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        Perhaps some analysis or a link to something along those lines would have been a good idea.

        That said, "mansplaining" is a sexist term used to insult males who argue back. It's a tool used to shut down conversations and arguments in order to dominate a talking space. It's a shaming tactic, along the lines of "man up". If a person ever uses that term, you can safely conclude that:

        1. Their argument or reasoning lacks merit, so they're afraid to have it questioned.

        2. They're asserting privilege and entitlement because they believe that their opinion is worth more than yours.

        3. They're blatantly and unrepentantly sexist, because they believe it's alright to treat you with disrespect and disdain due to nothing more than your genitals.

        I find it humourous that those who would defend the term are so adamantly opposed to stereotypes which marginalize women. I call those people hypocrites.

        [–]CoreLogic -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        I loathe the term "mansplaining."

        You do know that the people who use terms like that relish in you loathing their made up terms.

        [–]ForMensRights -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        So do I. An upvote for you!

        [–]demented_pants -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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        In my opinion, the term "manslating" is a far better portmanteau word for what's going on there.