Elite: Dangerous Horizons announced

Dzsekeb · 2日前

So, are they still going to add new content to the main game in the mean time ? The expansion will only be released in about 5-6 months.

M1SCH1EF · 2日前

Elite Dangerous: Horizons includes all Elite Dangerous content to date, and all players will continue to fly together in the same galaxy.

Damn, wish I never backed the game for double the price and half the content

meejahor · 2日前

I'm struggling to agree with Frontier on this. Charging for an expansion is one thing. Charging the same price as the original game is another thing. But how can they justify giving new players the expansion for free, while charging early adopters another £40? (Or £30 if we pre-order.) Seems like new players are getting a "thank you" while early adopters are getting a slap in the face.

eRoNNN · 2日前

So basically, this game is a subscription of £40 per year

NewbieCMDR · 2日前

all without loading times or breaks in gameplay

This is probably one of the most important details for me, personally.

Aurumaethera · 2日前

Gonna be kinda immersion breaking when you and your buddies flyby a planet and someone suggests a landing.

"Nah sorry man I don't have that expansion. Wanna come do 'insert other future expansion activity here' instead? Do you have that one?

Kaeden_Dourhand · 2日前

So they're asking 40 pounds for an expansion while many aspects of the original game are in serious need of some work, whether it is further fleshing out, rebalancing, or bugfixing? I'm not sure if I can support this, no matter how much I like the idea of driving around in a buggy.

What about Powerplay fixes? What about an inventory system where we can store or transport ship modules? A better economy? Frontier right now is doing what EVE was doing a while back, and doing it worse - delivering a 'jesus feature', and then never looking back on it to rebalance/fix it. Infinitely adding to the game, but all the individual components are a fraction of what they could be. I don't dig that.

Rispo · 2日前

$195.00 for a season pass HOOOOOLY CRAP https://www.frontierstore.net/usd/games/elite-dangerous-cat/horizons.html/ my wallet no ;_;

OriJuice · 2日前

I just want the hardcore E:D players to step away for a second and get off Frontiers dick with this post. My body is prepared for the downvotes, because this won't be a popular opinion.

First off, I won't be purchasing the expansion. Once I finish crossing the galaxy and exploring I'll probably uninstall this game and never touch it again. I was really, really excited for planetary landings. I was super excited for more content to be added to the base game. Now I feel like by the end of the development cycle I'll be throwing $300.00 at a game that I should have spent, at most $100.00 on. I'm of the opinion that Frontier should really evaluate how they develop this game and ask themselves why it is they can't make a complete game for a base price.

Elite:Dangerous base game is about as finished as X:Rebirth is now. Shudder I hate to make a comparison to that mess of a game, but its a good example. X:Rebirth got completely decimated for how unplayable and crappy it looked on release. Aside from being plagued with numerous issues that made the game unplayable it didn't feel "Finished". That game, nor the studio has fully recovered from that blunder.

Why do I say this?

Looking at E:D from an objective standpoint lets see what features X:Rebirth had on it's release to the features that E:D has currently.

X: Rebirth:

Walking on stations
Battle groups
NPC interaction
Walking around the Albion Skunk (Ship)
Docking with other ships

Elite:Dangerous

Battle groups...

Now, X:Rebirth did none of those particularly well. If development had been tighter and the tools more defined they could have pulled it off very well. So, the important question remains...Why is Frontier selling us a base game without this? Why, as a community are we expecting less from a developer that should be seeking to give more? X:Rebirth in my heart holds the prestigious title for being the most POS game I've ever played, and yet it has more base content than E:D. To the point where it made the universe actually more immersive in certain ways. In E:D I can't roll up to a station and interact with the NPC's, accept missions outside of the dock or communicate with and around the station. It doesn't feel alive, it feels static and dull.

This to me is off, because E:D is such an amazing universe. The detail is immense and the depth staggering. Yet, the game feels dead. I immerse myself when traveling, but can't when I enter populated space. It feels like I'm going through a series of motions, not so much playing a game as I am just being a controller.

A lot of people are quick to say Frontier told us this would happen, that paid DLC would come and content would be additional. That's fine...Those same people also point out Skyrim and Bethesda ES model makes this okay...It doesn't, because here is the difference:

Bethesda more or less released a finished base game. No major additions have been made save for the expansions, which were very well done. Crafting was already implemented in the base game, the ability to dual wield was already implemented. Ask yourself this question, how different would Skyrim be to you if you had to purchase a DLC pack for a single piece of armour or the ability to dual wield or ride a horse?

It would have broken the game for me. Bethesda is in a unique position where they understand the basics of their game, they know what their audience wants and can deliver it nearly seamlessly. They integrate the modding community to inject new content into their game at no cost to the player and it's kept their games alive for years. Even Morrowind is still enjoying a player base and that came is very aged.

/u/DBenzie has some good points, but I firmly believe he isn't absolutely correct in his interpretation of funding. Many popular games has a F2P system and have managed a huge amount of content and life-enhancing patches which require a ton of development work. One that comes to mind is a game like Planetside 2. I know many people which put maybe $60.00 into that game, because it's worth it; and then they play and grind.

Games like EVE which operate on a Subscription based model have released many free expansions and updates as a part of their subscription. Alongside regular things like server maintenance and additional content their players also get really neat perks. If you're an avid player you definitely get your moneys worth. Hell, mining Plex you can actually play the game for free. I have one friend who plays three times a week and affords his subscription outright through in-game money.

I've probably dropped over $200.00 into League over the past four years. Do I regret spending that money? No, I definitely don't. I bought into the game with my friends, the money was worth the hundreds of hours and the sheer amounts of fun I had while playing over the years. I can't judge /u/DBenzie for throwing money at skins, because I've done the same with a different game. Some people buy in differently, so this is all at best a very formulated opinion.

It is fair to call in to question the value of the game and expansion

We need to look at this in a sort of Case Law type way. What has come before and what is now? The development of E:D has been underwhelming. The features that currently exist are minuscule compared to other games of the same genre. The model for financing their development is troubling because of this. Come the end of the full development cycle are we expected to dish out $300.00+ for what many studios would have considered a base game + an expansion?

Instead of justifying Frontiers model we should be questioning it. As consumers and gamers we should be asking the fundamental questions that make Frontier give us forward answers. Questions like:

"Why, under all the pressure for the base game and Power Play update and how unfinished it feels are you charging players $60.00 for what many feel should have been part of the base model?"
"Can you justify the lack of development on the base game for the price of the expansion?"
"Why do other games in the same genre feature things you don't for half the cost?"

I love the universe Frontier has made...At the end of the day though, I firmly believe it isn't worth the price tag they're putting on it. If they would have put more effort into making the base game more immersive I may have bought into it. If walking around your ship and interacting with things around you outside of "PEW PEW!" was a thing, I may accept it. I can't however accept that Frontier gives us a game that is devoid of basic content and then expects us to pay it on the onset.

/rant

Also, if you want to explore planets...Surface and all on a basic level, check out Space Engine it's a free space simulator which allows you to explore entire galaxies, trillions of stars, nebula's, etc. It even has a basic shuttle simulator. I still boot this up pretty often to just kind of explore and get my kicks when I need to see pretty things.

RIFT-VR · 2日前

I backed at the earliest possible moment. Early alpha. And I haven't played since a little bit after Wings was released. Why?

There's nothing to do. I'll quote the usual "mile wide/inch deep", but that's nothing new. I have a vulture. I've done missions. I get how it all works. And I'm fine with the repetitiveness -- that makes sense across such a vast scale. But what's the grind for? There's simply not enough to grind towards.

Haven't played during Power Play, but it looks similarly shallow.

Procedural generation. Great. Now give me content you hand-crafted! This game still feels like a beta for christ's sake.

This, though, is an OK step in the right direction. With no planets with atmosphere's until way down the line, this reeks of another thing FD is rushing out before it's ready just for the sake of momentum and appeasement.

WoodzEX · 2日前

Fourty pounds? What the fuck Frontier, you better put some serious content into that expansion.

ItsMangel · 2日前

/u/tfaddy YOU'RE UP, GOT YOUR SOCKS?

based_peppep · 2日前

I already paid 30 more than I should have to beta test this game. I won't be buying the expansion as I get the feeling the world will still feel empty, just with the ability to land on lifeless planets. I think that 3-5 years from now we'll look back on E:D as the game that rushed to market to cash in on the space genre revival only to be surpassed by other games that took their time to get the details right. E:D is this genre's Everquest, I'm still waiting for WoW.

Goschti · 2日前

So we get a buggy to do planetary USS lottery on planets that will probably all look the same for 50€(68€ if I want that beta access I have already paid for) or I can buy the season pass that would have cost me 60€ last year and now 175€..... I personally think that price is a bit to high. But if they sell us one addon per year for the price of a full game I can see where they want to get there money from

FrostyWalrus2 · 2日前

I'm betting PR is about to get a better budget so that this stuff sells like crazy. Sounds about as game changing as Powerplay was.

I hope the weathered E:D community remembers feeding into the patch(es) hyping (though wings was good but still not always 100% functional).

That is all.

sushi_cw · 2日前

Didn't expect a buggy. So we get space wheels but no space legs? :) How's that supposed to work?

EDIT: Some other additional thoughts:

Scanning airless planets and moons brings new gameplay as players detect signals, crashed ships, mineral deposits, outposts and fortresses.

So basically we get the Mako.

Map uncharted worlds, dogfight in canyons, discover items and events you’ll only find on world surfaces.

Aw yiss.

This second major update will include additional gameplay-focused content including an all-new game-changing loot and crafting system.

This makes me feel a tad nervous. "Loot and crafting" is not generally something I want in a sim.

Windows recommended hardware specification:

~~Ouch.~~ Nevermind, it's the same as they have listed for regular E:D. Seems like they're severely overstating the needed specs, so I'm hoping that Plandings aren't too much more demanding than the base game.

Pyehouse · 2日前

Got to say, This looks amazing, I am so excited to play Elite dangerous. I can't wait for 2017/18 when I'll be buying it.

EDIT: Just think, The Occulus rift will be a couple of iterations in, the pc needed to run it will be dirt cheap and the game will cost $60 for everything... $20 if I wait for the steam sale game of the year edition. I'll just finish the hundreds of other awesome games I haven't finished in the mean time.

Half--and--Half · 2日前

Okay, I love this game. I've had it for a few months now, and it's amazing. And ever since I first heard of it, I've been dying to get planetary landings. I still want it, and it still sounds amazing. I understand a huge update like this coming out as DLC, that's fair. But Frontier, it's only a feature. An add-on

I'm fine with paying $5, $10, hell even $15 or $20 if it looks really great and content loaded. But how can you justify me paying $60, the price of the entire game itself for a feature. Yes, it is a big one, and I'm sure it will add a lot. But seriously, you want me to pay what I paid for the whole game for this?

Like I said, I am a huge fan of this game, and I would love to support it. I really mean that. I have told lots of people about this game because it's like nothing I've ever played, but there has to be a line in the sand. I'm sorry Frontier, but I cannot financially justify paying the price of the entire game just for a good add-on.

wiff98 · 2日前

So, if we've bought the Premium Beta with the lifetime expansion pass it covers this right?

Je_Suis_NaTrolleon · 2日前

I'm gonna be that guy and gripe.. $60 for only atmosphere-less planets. Seems pretty steep, and there better be a lotta shit to do on the planets.

drNovikov · 2日前

The next big update should be named:

Elite: To the Abyss of Boredom.

DigitalMandalorian · 2日前

That is a very steep price point. 200$ for a lifetime pass. 75$ for expansion plus beta access. Hmm. That means at least three more expansions to get your money back. I hope that there will actually be different things to do in different places instead of one thing to do in a lot of different places.

WolfeBane84 · 2日前

So. If I bought the Beta at $75

Who do I talk to about getting a discount for the lifetime pass (I'd glady pay the difference of $120)

CaiM444 · 2日前

Is any one else really disappointed that you have to pay to access another part of this game? I mean I knew they were going to do payed expansions but fucks sake 40 euro for an expansion on a game that really isnt that finished.... I dunno

rtitusz · 2日前

40 quid for a dlc? Sweet baby Jesus!

MartinCorwin · 2日前

Wow. FDev certainly knows how to alienate their customers. Well, at least after buying this half finished E:D for full price only four weeks ago, I now know what I can expect of this "expansion" and for the "finished" game.

E:D is dead to me. Good riddance.

everydaymotherfucker · 2日前

Anddd I'm done. Way too pricey for my liking. Ridiculous.

whipdiddywhip · 2日前

£40??? are they having a laugh?

jaseworthing · 2日前

Holiday 2015! We're gonna be landing on planets in just a couple months!

WynnTT · 2日前

I'm disappointed.

What we need is some depth to the game, not lateral sideways movement. The adage mile wide, inch deep still applies to the game.

It won't take long to realise that exploring procedurally generated different coloured rocks will be the same experience in substance as exploring procedurally generated different coloured balls floating in space.

swiftwilly321 · 2日前

when is holiday 2015? UK or US ? Or just...Christmas 2015?

MasterDefibrillator · 2日前

I'm surprised this is coming before FPV, what the point of landing on planets if you can't get out and walk around?

Evilblueyoshi · 2日前

Are studios TRYING to get people to stop preordering?

Nose-Nuggets · 2日前

I gave you $150 to make a great game. You gave me a great shell, and now you want more money to fill it? Fuck off.

edit: errr, nm. i guess that got me premium beta with access to all the DLC. Still, i am bitter that they are going this route. This is stuff that should be part of the base game and they add insult to injury when new players get existing and dlc content for the base price.

AesopSquaresoft · 2日前

"Elite Dangerous: Horizons launches this Holiday. The first expansion, Planetary Landings introduces players to planet surfaces and the first all-new Surface Recon Vehicle (SRV) the ‘Scarab’. Scanning airless planets and moons brings new gameplay as players detect signals, crashed ships, mineral deposits, outposts and fortresses. Alone or with friends players will explore, mine and engage hostile forces as they attempt to infiltrate strongholds guarding valuable rewards. Players will explore new worlds, coasting over mountaintops, diving into canyons, landing on the surface and rolling out onto the surface in your SRV, all without loading times or breaks in gameplay."

Pretty interesting stuff for explorers!

Finally we're getting some love :)

vicisss · 1日前

Base game doesn't feel even remotely finished, yet they expect us to buy an expansion?

They needed a good 2 years of patching before they could even justify the original asking price. All their major content patches did absolutely nothing to address the lack of content in the game, and mostly just addressed issues that never should have existed to begin with (oh, now you can fly with your friends in this MMO - aren't we awesome devs!?!??!).

I've bought a lot of garbage over the years. I still remember how disappointing Oblivion was, and I thought that ToR would be the greatest MMO ever. Yet, I've never had buyers remorse like I have with ED.

toph1980 · 2日前

I like E:D, but it needs more content. Frontier's problem is that E:D needs more content now. The game is far from polished, player base is getting reduced by the day and I can see hops of players leaving come November and big titles like Star Wars: Battlefront, Star Citizen's Persistent Universe Module, BO3, and so on. What then?

racooniac · 2日前

... lol and i am sitting here waiting for bugfixes for broken "features" added a year ago ...

Tz33ntch · 2日前

Can anyone with a premium beta or earlier account confirm that we'll be getting the expansion for free? I can't find anything about that on my store account.

shyney · 2日前

I bought the normal Game on Steam if I pre-order now from the Frontier Website will I be able to play it with Steam? And what is going to be launched in Holiday 2015 the beta or the normal pre order game? So if I buy the pre-order will I be able to play on Holiday 2015? Or do I have to buy the beta version?

CMDRmetamaterial · 2日前

So, when is "Holiday"? I'm confused...

AltoExyl · 2日前

I'm a Steam user... anyone know if I need to wait for the DLC to appear on steam or can I add it through Frontier's site?

Jimmars · 1日前

I mean I'm not against these expansions, but I wish they'd have made the original game good first before releasing an expansion

gizimoo86 · 2日前

Developing game cost lots of money, so they need more if they want to add features. Star Citizen is still raising money but project is huge and budget has grown out that original 20 million. I think both games will be fine but it just takes +4 years to make huge game with many features. In the long run i think Star Citizen will be better game. Many people with Aurora game package (20-40€) will be happy in 2 years because its great value for money. Also SC doesn't divide multiplayer with expansion packs so it will be better experience.

I have Elite premium (50 hours played) but going to wait expansion then actually start playing game more. I can easily wait 1 year for more complete game.

Fen1kz · 2日前

another 50$ ? not gonna buy

lakelly99 · 1日前

I'm out. The game was already overpriced for the low, low amount of content, and now they want to charge forty quid so - what - we can do some more of the same cut-and-paste missions except on a low-res randomly-generated planet's surface? Forty fucking pounds? I'm sorry Frontier but there's a million better games out there for half the price.

Barking_Madness · 2日前

A message from Cmdr. Braben

"I’ve been fascinated by the exploration of space since I was young, and especially with the almost unimaginable scales involved. Going down to the surfaces of planets was a key part of my dreams of exploration, and soon we'll realise that dream in Elite Dangerous.

We're beginning with airless, rocky worlds – places where a great deal of new gameplay can take place. These are planet-sized sandbox environments, with all sorts of things to discover hidden on them. You'll find surface starports, crashed ships, mineral deposits, hidden bases and more.

These worlds are gigantic, and - like the open galaxy - you'll be able to go anywhere. You'll be able to fly over the surface in low orbit and choose your spot to land, you'll be able to venture out in your Surface Recon Vehicle and hurtle across the surface at high speed. You'll be able to sneak around or go in all guns blazing. The nimble SRV is tiny compared to your ship, and is virtually invisible on a long range scanner – ship-based weapons will find it very hard to hold a lock on them, but airborne and ground-based players can explore the same worlds together, so watch the skies!

As I’ve said already, I’ve wanted to do surface landings in Elite Dangerous for quite a while now – and we have been planning how best to do it since the Kickstarter. Elite Dangerous: Horizons is the first stage and a huge step. The quality people expect is, as always, very high, and the team have done a great job hitting that benchmark. These worlds will feel real and meaningfully unique.

You’ll read about some of the exciting things you’ll find on surfaces this week in the press and on our Community blog, but Planetary Landings is just the start. Elite Dangerous: Horizons is a full season of content extending into 2016, introducing new features and gameplay in each major expansion. As with Season One, this season of expansions is not just about planet surfaces, but other major features are coming too.

Of course support will continue for Elite Dangerous even outside of Elite Dangerous: Horizons, and we’re keeping the community together. All Elite Dangerous and Elite Dangerous: Horizons players will share the same galaxy together and you’ll retain all your progress whenever you choose to join our new season of expansions.

Elite Dangerous: Horizons will be available to pre-order on our store today, and I’m very happy to announce all existing Elite Dangerous players will receive a 25 percent loyalty discount off the Horizons retail price. Existing players will also unlock the exclusive Cobra Mk IV ship in Elite Dangerous: Horizons. The Cobra Mk IV will be available in the game only to players who joined us in the first year – forever. It’s our ‘thank you’ for your faith in the game, and you’ll see more of the Cobra Mk IV in Friday’s Peek Of The Week.

Due to popular demand, we’ve also decided to bring back for a limited time the lifetime expansion pass. It should appear in our store later today.

We’re committed to seeing Elite Dangerous grow the right way, and we hope you’ll join us planetside as we embark upon the exploration of our galaxy’s undiscovered worlds together. We have a great team, and I believe Elite Dangerous: Horizons will bring players closer than ever to the dream of touching other worlds.

There will be lots of questions, I know! Elite Dangerous’ Lead Designer Sandro Sammarco and I will be taking your questions in this afternoon’s livestream at 16:00 CEST, so please visit twitch.tv/elitedangerous for that.

The Community team will do their best to answer your questions about the ongoing evolution of Elite Dangerous on our forums, and tune in to our Twitch stream throughout the week for more on Elite Dangerous for Xbox One, Elite Dangerous 1.4: CQC for PC and Mac, and Elite Dangerous: Horizons.

Thank you for playing, and Right On, Commander!"

David Braben

hobblygobbly · 2日前

... £40? Considering how the release game lacked in features/content at full price, plus an expansion for £40 that may repeat the same steps (we don't even get Earth-like planets to land on in the planetary landing expansion). I'll wait for a while till after release before I put more money into the game.

“From a design point of view, this has been in the works from the start,” says Braben. “But recently, work on it has gradually ramped up. We’re starting with airless planets and moons to begin with, but Earth-like planets will happen in the future.” Like the galaxy itself, the surfaces of these planets will be created using procedural generation. But that doesn’t mean they’ll be random scatterings of rocks and ice: Frontier’s algorithm uses real science to generate its extraterrestrial landscapes.

Source: http://www.pcgamer.com/planetary-landings-are-coming-to-elite-dangerous-this-year/

Don't see how anyone can see the justification in paying £40 for a planetary landing expansion where you can't even land on Earth-like planets at RELEASE, only "later". I'll only buy "later" when all content for the expansion is actually available.

Cripstat · 2日前

lool Nah. I bought this for a LOT of money at launch because it looked amazing, I had fun for a week before I realized how unfinished it was and I stuck with it until now because I thought "wings were a good start and now powerplay, this game is going to be alright they will just keep fleshing out until it feels like its worth the money" But no, this update and the following year should be free, after that by all means i will pay £30 for expansions but right now I don't even feel like I have gotten £20 worth and now they want even more. All faith in Frontier is lost, i'm just going to come back in 2 years when all this DLC is free and I can just buy their latest expansion and get the whole lot, that's if the game hasn't isolated its entire customer base by then...

Luder714 · 1日前

This is bullshit. I paid a large amount for an unfinished game, and now I get to spend nearly the same amount for the expansion? In addition, people that never bought it get it for free? What a bunch of crap.

All that start up money and they are being greedy bastards. Is it too late to get my money back?

Also, they just destroyed all their future revenue from now until the expansion comes out.

JensonCat · 2日前

As a backer like a lot of us are I hope FD don't renege on the promise of free expansions. Judging by the season price cost and the cost of this one expansion it makes it sound like a new game. That coupled with the existing customers get £10 off post, hopefully we are not forgotten.

Edit: free expansions for alpha and premium beta Backers is what I meant. Not the free updates.

BewilderedDash · 2日前

Elite Dangerous: Horizons will continue to introduce new features and gameplay as the season continues into 2016.

Or maybe they could work on the half-baked features they already have?

Shledge · 2日前

There's a Cobra Mk IV now? Also liking how dogfighting on a planet has changes to the flight model too. Later potential expansions talk about having a crafting/loot system.

pnr8uk · 2日前

"Are you watching... Are you watching"... "Are you watching No Mans Sky" "Are you watching No Mans Sky!"

Machismo01 · 2日前

I am so stoked! TAKE MY MONEY!!!

I feel like this will be what I wanted the planet exploration to be in Mass Effect.

shamrockjew · 2日前

I know it's day 1 and that details will follow, but my biggest worry is that the gameplay really won't change at all. The quick trailer and few screenshots show planet rovers with guns.

What I worry will happen is the "new gameplay" will just be another chair to sit in. Fly to asteroid and mine will become Fly to planet, jump in rover, and mine. Maybe it's foolish to want so desperately to get out and walk around in a spaceship game, but that's what I'm hoping for - and I doubt it will happen in season 2.

Tijauna · 2日前

I feel so torn - want to be hyped at this amazing expansion, something we've always been looking forward to - but I'm also disappointed with the massive $60 CAD expansion price. I don't think I've ever seen DLC priced that high (in relation to other triple-A video games).

jpfarre · 2日前

Existing Elite Dangerous players receive a £10 loyalty discount off the price of Elite Dangerous: Horizons, retaining their progress and unlocking the exclusive ‘Cobra Mk IV’ in-game spacecraft.

Just hadn't seen this mentioned... Thought it would be worth putting it out there.

DakezO · 2日前

and this is where I don't play again for a few years. See ya at the Steam Sale of summer 2018 Elite Dangerous DLC!

RyanTheQ · 1日前

Welp. I feel slighted. I wish I could get a refund but I have around 30 hours. I need more information to come out, but if Horizons includes the base game, and if owners of the base game get fleeced to buy it again, I'm done.

NyuuPingu · 1日前

NOTICE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BUY ELITE NOW

if you want to buy elite, don't buy the base game for 60$. While everyone is confused about who gets what I think it is impossible for newcomers to understand what is going on.

You can buy the xpac "Horizon" that includes all upcoming content in 2016 and the base game. BUT you are not able to play the base game until Horizon is released.

IF you buy the base game now all you buy for 60$ is the ability to play before Horizon will release, which is Holiday 2016 (At least christmas).

So frontier is selling a 4month access to the game next to the base game + expansion.

I highly recommend to wait until Horizon release to buy Elite Dangerous.

While everyone is going crazy, all newcomers totally get screwed over with frontiers absolutely confusing marketing.

robertr1 · 1日前

So basically I bought this game two weeks ago but if I waited until Horizons comes out I could have saved $60 because it includes the base game as well? I don't mind paying for expansions but this just feels like I'm buying the game twice.

TragedyT · 2日前

They've got a ten year plan. I'd bet (but not eat a sock) that they'll release a game-changing season update like this every year for a single purchase of around £40/$60/1200Cr every time. It's how to keep a game funded without doing subscriptions or pay-to-win. £40 (actually thirty, with discount) per year for something that'll entertain me for hundreds of hours is insanely good value to me, but if this is too much for you, fair enough - don't buy it.

BotchedBenzos · 2日前

What the fuck, I paid $60 for an unfinished game and now I have to pay MORE to get the promised features? OOOH BUT A 25% OFF COUPON THX BB. Seriously, fuck Frontier, fuck Elite, and fuck another year of shitty, broken updates that turn out to be boring as fuck

EastboundAnd_Down · 1日前

Paid $75 to get into this empty as hell sandbox, I'm sure as shit not paying another 60 for another half assed "expansion" that looks like nothing but an empty sandbox with a buggy. Sorry Frontier, You've obviously overestimated the worth of your product.

2lean4 · 2日前

so the beta for horizons is an extra $15? didn't they say a while back that if you were in the original beta you'd get access to all expansion betas as well?

Dewi1986 · 2日前

So how long till Star Citizen then?

PeteIRL · 2日前

Phew

suchdownvotes · 2日前

This shit better Spit Shine Tommy polished if I'm spending the amount of money I paid for the entire game for a fucking dlc.

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