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[–]Bloodhand 129ポイント130ポイント  (3子コメント)

I thought this was going to be a video about tricking people into racing you.

I'm not sure what to think now.

[–]ActualContent 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I was like "Oh cool someone's gonna rev an engine at a hot rod and they'll get pulled over". Needless to say I'm a little disappointed.

[–]MERGINGBUD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought it was going to be about people baiting hooks in a speed competition.

[–]NO_AI 288ポイント289ポイント  (95子コメント)

Why do I have the feeling like I'm being played, like the Koney video. Maybe my trust requires more than a well edited youtube video.

[–]suklaakakkumies 181ポイント182ポイント  (17子コメント)

Probably because of the way it is edited. It is trying to elicit an emotional response from you rather than trying to inform you.

[–]odiom 93ポイント94ポイント  (2子コメント)

While I agree he is definitely using powerful imagery to get a reaction out of you, trying to inform you on a issue that spans multiple centuries is difficult to wrap into a 11 minute video. This is kinda a trailer for the audio series he plugged at the end, and the two books he informed you to research on your own.

That being said, was anyone else disappointed that this wasn't a video tutorial on how to race bait?

[–]vvarpidgeon 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

A People's History of the United States is by far one of the most life impacting books I have ever read. It's scope goes way beyond race in America and really opened up my eyes to the BS our public schools call "history".

[–]StrewwelChris 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I first read the headline, I was picturing bored fishermen crowding around a couple earthworms and some lanes scratched in the dust. I need a nap.

[–]teapot112 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

Its called creative non fiction. Its using facts and the use of cinematic editing to emphasis the points you want your audience to feel. Its not exactly a bad thing if the facts are true and not something made up.

Vice does this more effectively.

And talk show hosts like John Oliver, Jon Stewart use the medium of jokes to bring across the points you wouldn't usually notice from just reading it.

Those Pulitzer award winning articles are also great example of this.

Remember that Gene Weingarten's article in Washington Post about how parents who accidentally killed their children in their cars?

[–]bennedfromworldnoose -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

Where are all those posters that copy pasta their manifestos about why black people are naturally criminals? Where are the enlightened ones to bring us out from the shackles of tolerance's ignorance? Where are the "lol facts are racist now?" prophets???

[–]suklaakakkumies 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

Well I found a graph that shows a good curve for crime stats between races. http://i.imgur.com/9EJbjri.jpg

You'll notice that the darker color is further to the right than the lighter colors, indicating that crime is on the rise.

[–]dam072000 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's obviously a problem that starts in early childhood development. We should strip kids of their parents and have the state teach them.

[–]ignaro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ahhh. I thought that kid was

copy[ing] pasta.

[–]QuiteAffable 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The ominous music is designed to help you think dispassionately.

I'm not going to go through and look for problems, although I'm sure there are plenty. One thing that jumped out at me was his comment about the difficulty of improving your station (as a poor white rather than black) by hard work because the life expentancy was 35. This number does not remove the effect of high childhood mortality. See this chart on wikipedia to see how dramatic the difference can be if you remove those effects.

[–]Ethyl_Mercaptan 78ポイント79ポイント  (27子コメント)

You aren't being played. The powerful have used this strategy to keep the citizenry divided and in conflict for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

Governments literally create false realities to keep people in conflict. That is so that populations remain fearful of each other and divided and do not unite to overthrow the elites. It is a part of a strategy of tension that has been employed for at least hundreds of years through governments and probably thousands of years through religions.

We are manipulated into a distrust of one another along racial lines. The following is a passage from Howard Zinn's "A People's History..."

Black and white worked together, fraternized together. The very fact that laws had to be passed after a while to forbid such relations indicates the strength of that tendency. In 1661 a law was passed in Virginia that "in case any English servant shall run away in company of any Negroes" he would have to give special service for extra years to the master of the runaway Negro. In 1691, Virginia provided for the banishment of any "white man or woman being free who shall intermarry with a negro, mulatoo, or Indian man or woman bond or free."

from another section:

Bacon's Rebellion brought together groups from the lower classes. White frontiersmen started the uprising because they were angry about the way the colony was being run. Then white servants and black slaves joined the rebellion. They were angry, too-mostly about the huge gap between rich and poor in Virginia. The greatest fear of wealthy southern planters was that black slaves and poor whites would combine in another uprising like Bacon's Rebellion. One tool to keep blacks and whites from uniting was racism. Edmund Morgan , a historian of slavery in Virginia , wrote in his American Slavery, American Freedom that racism was not a "natural" feeling about the differ¬ences between black and white. Instead, white leaders encouraged a negative view of blacks. If poor whites felt contempt for African Americans, they were less likely to join with them in rebellion.

It's the same strategy gone global. And now that we have instant global communication, they can't just lie about it in the newspaper and trick everyone. They have to actually act it out or find patsies to act it out for them.

Think about it... do you actually have reason to hate anyone? ....or have you only been taught who you should hate? Do you actually know for certain that the individuals in every "terrorist act" are actually who we are told they are? Would the people have actually had the motivation or resources to commit an act of terror or were they only able to do it because a government agency enabled it?

These are all legitimate questions.

http://www.sott.net/article/125878-The-Strategy-of-Tension-NATOs-Secret-War-Against-Europe

Daniele Ganser, professor of contemporary history at Basel University (Switzerland) and chairman or the ASPO - Switzerland, published a landmark book about "NATO's Secret Armies." According to him, during the last 50 years the United States have organized bombings in Western Europe that they have falsely attributed to the left and the extreme left with the purpose of discrediting them in the eyes of their voters. This strategy is still present today, inspiring fear for the Islam and justifying wars on oil.

Tufts Professor, Michael Glennon, even explains this in his book "National Security and Double Government". The TL;DR is basically that you don't have any choice or right to self-determination anymore because anything can be justified in the name of "national security". http://harvardnsj.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Glennon-Final.pdf

National security policy in the United States has remained largely constant from the Bush Administration to the Obama Administration. This continuity can be explained by the “double government” theory of 19th-century scholar of the English Constitution Walter Bagehot. As applied to the United States, Bagehot’s theory suggests that U.S. national security policy is defined by the network of executive officials who manage the departments and agencies responsible for protecting U.S. national security and who, responding to structural incentives embedded in the U.S. political system, operate largely removed from public view and from constitutional constraints. The public believes that the constitutionally-established institutions control national security policy, but that view is mistaken. Judicial review is negligible; congressional oversight is dysfunctional; and presidential control is nominal.

Need people to be afraid of "muslim terrorists"? So you saw that video off the Charlie Hebdo thing, right? Here is what I saw. I'm no expert, but I have been putting in a lot of time into reading and learning how these operations work: I saw a couple of professionals work smoothly and cleanly. They had a very well-planned out attack and made a nice escape. It certainly did not look like a couple of guys who have never seen action and suddenly self-radicalized. Even if you have trained, unless you have seen a lot of action and can control yourself, then you are going to be panicked and scattered. Those guys were smooth and in control.

Not only that, but the big tip-off to me was the leaving behind of the ID cards. This always conveniently happens. Oswald's wallet, James Earl Ray's "bundle of evidence", and even the passports that miraculously showed up at 9/11. It's a common tactic because it works so well on the general population and spin control through their agents in the media can discredit those who point out the absurdity.

Now what happened the next day?

Well, a couple of guys took some hostages in a bakery or something. This is where those agents who try to find people willing to become radicals come in. If you had to make something like this happen, what do you do? You probably show them that you can get them money and weapons. You probably use your knowledge of other fake acts by other agents to show them that you are connected to the terrorists. Then you tell them, "The signal is coming. There will be an attack today, then muslims like us everywhere across Europe will stage a coordinated attack. Your mission will be to hold hostages in this bakery!" Then they see the attack happen and believe that it is real. These aren't ever really bright people to begin with so they never figure out they are being set up. The reality is those poor patsies would have probably never had a vector to do anything at all if these agencies had never enabled them. Do you think they got those guns by themselves? Seriously... this is how those types of things operate. You have to create an illusion like a magician. If you go and look at those JTRIG slides, that's exactly what they talk about. These guys love to compare themselves to magicians that create false realities. Examples here: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/document/2014/02/24/art-deception-training-new-generation-online-covert-operations/ and here: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

I know it sounds like madness, but we have some really famous quotes to back it up:

William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987: “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

The aide said that guys like me were "in what we call the reality-based community," which he defined as people who "believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality." ... "That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." —Unnamed White House aide[1] The quote is now widely attributed to Karl Rove

This is what Karl Rove meant by "we are history's actor's". They are literally creating a reality of their own choosing (that of course serves themselves) for the masses to move them to the actions that they want them to.

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[–]ervh818 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is probably the best comment in this entire thread. A lot of people don't understabd the amount of corruption and power our government and wealthy have. Good research man!

[–]Ethyl_Mercaptan 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah... I think many of us only need to look back to this past few years to see this playing out in the US. With the Trayvon Martin and Mike Brown cases being at the forefront of news media coverage, I have to wonder:

Why is the media focusing so much on these two individual cases when you can find countless numbers of cases where it is very clear that police brutality/murder is a problem and it happens to people of all races?

The focus was placed on these two cases because they were so vague and what happened is so unclear. This way, the media can create their own narrative: "Zimmerman was just a huge racist... why are the cops allowing citizens to murder black people and get away with it!".... "Look how out of control black people are in Ferguson... be scared white people!"

Instead, why not focus on the case in Cleveland where the cops rolled up just a few feet from a child with BB-gun and shot him dead? Everyone can clearly see that is not how the situation should have been handled.

But the media, who acts as propaganda for the government, does nowhere near the amount of coverage on those as they should. Have you seen a follow-up to that cop that shot the man running away and then planted evidence on him and was caught on tape? I haven't. These narratives just work to further divide us from each other and keep us from recognizing that it is people claiming to have power over other people that is the problem.

[–]LukeChrisco 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was less follow-up on the cop who planted the gun because 1) he was immediately charged with murder as soon as the video came out and 2) he hasn't had a trial yet

[–]PrimeGen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand it, and I've informed people of it. The problem is, people don't want to believe it. Thus, they ignore it. It could slap them in the face and they will still ignore it because it's easier to accept a comforting lie than it is to swallow an uncomfortable truth.

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[–]IAMPOUNDCAKE 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do I have the feeling like I'm being played

Because its propaganda.

[–]arcangeltx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

the soundtrack also made it appeal to pathos

[–]bigpoppa0513 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

By the end of his video I felt like he would make an awesome car salesman, or sell me a weight loss pill that would work. by the end....I just didn't trust him.

[–]HoldMyWine 25ポイント26ポイント  (25子コメント)

You right, you are being emotionally played like the Kony video. For example, the speaker states that the life expectancy at the time was 35. This is very misleading. If you survived past the age of 5 (child mortality) then you typically lived to a fairly old age, considerably older than 35.

He keeps making these kind of errors throughout the video to paint a particular narrative. The fact that he brings up Trayvon Martin as some kind of martyr should have really tipped one off.

[–]cypherreddit 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

yea, that got to me too and I saw your same link, but it doesn't address the wealth gap, which he did.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225578/Gap-life-expectancy-rich-poor-bigger-Victorian-times-despite-Labour-promises.html

" The average life span in 1840, in the Whitechapel district of London, was 45 years for the upper class and 27 years for tradesman. Laborers and servants lived only 22 years on average."

http://www.oocities.org/victorianmedicine/iframeh.html

[–]fsbx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The mean value of those averages comes out to 31.333~ so, the average of average life expectancy is close enough, right?

[–]millergm 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I couldn't agree more. There are total "Kony" emotional plays in this. His facts are probably true, but skewed by the fact that they aren't explained. 99% of accidents by Rolls Royce drivers are caused by whites. But hey, let's not explain why we have that stat. Of course, I am exaggerating, but it isn't far off from saying "blacks are arrested more than whites". Is it because of their economic disposition? Did they confront the police more? Did they grow up in a household where they had less authority over them?

[–]SirCarlo 28ポイント29ポイント  (12子コメント)

That's an extremely small part of the overall video which shouldn't discredit the message entirely.

[–]mimunto 23ポイント24ポイント  (8子コメント)

No actual researcher would say those things. It shows his focus is on the emotional response and not one getting the facts right.

[–]nexusnotes 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

He does get the facts right by and large though...

I have to admit I was expecting misinformation due to the format as well. I think it does take away from his message, but he is definitely on point.

[–]millergm 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think a lot of the stats are very skewed though. He likes to point out that blacks are incarcerated, arrested, etc. more. But what he doesn't list is the rate of broken families among races. I think it isn't just about race or wealth, but family structure. I think there are many reasons to why the stats are what they are, and it isn't just the color of the skin.

[–]nexusnotes 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

All evidence I've seen connects the rate of broken families with the increased incarceration rates though. It seems to be one of the byproducts. Dads in jail leaving more single parent homes, which significantly decreases children's chances at success in those homes in the future. I.e. maybe he hit two birds with one stone attacking the incarceration rate.

[–]skacey 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It has little to do with the message. It has a lot to do with the presenter. Allowing misdirection and bad statistics in your message raises doubts as to your credibility.

[–]dietTwinkies 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or he was just wrong about that one thing. I think the video was emotionally manipulative (obviously) but not because of that one statistic and of course logically it doesn't negate a single other thing he said. Just the fact that it's a mostly unsourced youtube video should be reason enough to be skeptical, don't bring some bullshit in to try and discredit it further.

[–]Horaenaut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, the fact that he uses Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States as a seriously considered historical work is another sign that, while much of what he is saying has basis in fact, it is a sensationalization (much like Zinn's work).

[–]desolateconstruct 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, that's exactly when I clicked off the video.

I may have been born at night, but not last night.

[–]LiamtheFilmMajor 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

You should definitely check out the book "The New Jim Crowe" if you'd like a really well put together analysis of the class system throughout American history. Fancy-pants youtube videos aside, Michelle Alexander goes through the history and the data in a really clear and concise way.

[–]AlphaWookie 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah sorry to tell you she is wrong and that book is wrong, she made up US history whole cloth. Here is Yale University Clinical Law Professor James Forman Jr., son of James Forman, prominent civil rights leader of the 1950s and 1960s take down of that crappy book with far more sources than her book. See here: http://www.law.yale.edu/documents/pdf/Faculty/Forman_RacialCritiques.pdf

Now give me my down vote for proving you wrong, so you can mitigate the effects of the cognitive dissonance you will feel.

Be well.

[–]LiamtheFilmMajor 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well dang. I'll have to read that PDF. Thanks for the info, but I hope you'll understand if I don't immediately take you at face value. Nothing in Alexander's book seemed super outrageously incorrect, but I mean, you never know until you read a bunch of stuff and try to piece together the actual truth.

Thanks for the additional reading!

Be well.

[–]DepolarizedNeuron 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

i upvoted you even though you were harsh at the end. lol

[–]roguemango 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe you are. Maybe you're not. Read up on it. Research.

Become informed.

[–]blue1knight -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Who is playing you? It is a strong, positive message that speaks the truth. Don't support the message with money. Support the message by spreading it. No one is asking for your trust. Just remember in your daily life who the true evil is. Not the black/white/yellow/brown man/woman/trans/sis in front of you. Every day live your life for your brothers and sisters and do your best to bring peace and love into the world.

[–]DiversityOurStrength 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

It doesn't speak the truth, it's not meant to speak the truth, it's meant to influence people.

The world doesn't need another lightly sourced "positive message" on race pointing out "who the true evil is".

[–]absurd_dick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's providing quite a bit of info. wikipedia is just a couple of clicks away.

[–]ThePARZ -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2tOp7OxyQ8 Bryan Stevenson's TED talk will make you feel much less played and will likely evoke as much or more emotion than OP's video

[–]slammyfart 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well really how are you supposed to get a message out to people without it being easily digestible these days

[–]yoholmes 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

i can feel /r/history being triggered.

[–]SallyFuckingForth 100ポイント101ポイント  (4子コメント)

Title is misleading.

[–]UncleColey 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was excited to see some worms race. D:

[–]sta1ker -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I think I'm hooked on his series now.

[–]DasTooth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought it was going to be about how to get a stranger to race you. I was disappointed.

[–]MikeAbergail 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right??, like I know.
Was sure this was about some new type of fishing technique.

[–]lcrivers816 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I literally thought this was a funny video of getting people to race each other in different situations.

[–]throwaway93582019845 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

I love how the American history narrative always seems to forget about the Asian and Irish workers who died building this nation. Can they at least get a mention?

[–]kkehoe5 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah Asians are a minority that seems to be doing far better than the whites. He even said black, brown & white. Kinda forgot the Asians in his speech.

[–]qwertyydamus 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

See, they would, and they do in like... AP US History classes, but for the other media that is less of a hot topic, less likely to get views, and thus isn't discussed. Media now is not so much about informing good options, rather it tries to get views. And its not just fox news and CNN, everyone does this, all the way from news corporations to google to facebook. ...Sorry, I have just written too many long papers over this. It boils my blood every time I see something like this, and your comment just points out a huge problem that is related to an even bigger problem.

[–]_Zuckuss_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

the point made in the video is that media sells conflict, their is no current conflict to be exploited by making people aware of the Asian and Irish plight.

[–]Papper 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Asians get mentioned quite a bit in relations to rail roads afaik. The Irish, not so much.

[–]Bbqs355 63ポイント64ポイント  (53子コメント)

I agree up to the point where he makes it a black lives matter movement piece. Forgive me if I am wrong but shouldn't it be about us 99% raging against the 1% who rule the world? Should we all as people fight for the rights of us ass. The good treatment of your fellow man should be the reason for our outrage not the downtrodden of the downtrodden. While I know I've got it better than some others that doesn't stop me from caring about the people in my life. Love should be something we share between us all not amongst people who look like us.

Fight for the rights of your neighbors because we are all humans fucking each other over

[–]down_with_whomever 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

It did seem like he was trying to have his cake and eat it too by straddling between two different arguments.

It's not about race, it's about power and economics and we're all getting fucked over here, whites too, and we need to unite together to expose the system...

But black lives matter and I shouldn't be proud of my heritage as a white person. I was poor and homeless, but at least I wasn't black, because that's worse!

[–]MildScallions 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, I really don't see where he exposed race baiters.

[–]antholagnia 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

by encouraging poor whites to feel superior to poor blacks there is no momentum for positive change

[–]MildScallions 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was looking for places in the video where he exposed race baiters.

[–]thmz 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Uhh he showed during the video how the "masters" which could include the mega-media owners, the millionaire politicians and the rich, stand to benefit from the divide America might be in. In other words the entire thing was his way to expose race baiters as the people who upkeep this structure.

Tl;dr it wasn't literal.

[–]MildScallions 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But what is he actually saying here?

Can anyone summarize what is saying after the first 7 minutes?

[–]0473332002285 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno, some of the biggest agitators for positive change come from the upper-middle class activists. You clearly don't have to come from the bottom to want things to change.

[–]ThatsSciencetastic 45ポイント46ポイント  (7子コメント)

Did we watch the same thing? Of course he mentioned the black lives matter movement in a video that was almost exclusively focused on modern race relations. The whole point of the video was that the people behind the black lives movement and people behind the occupy movement should be allied against the common enemy.

[–]cbtaylor 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think some people could take issue with him deriding mass media for creating conflict while simultaneously creating a divide between the haves and the have-nots. I think Bbqs355 recognizes this dissonance on some level but had trouble reconciling it within the video. It's fairly audacious of him to scorn the media outlets for capitalizing on conflict while he does the very same thing.

[–]Guest1911 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally, I don't think the 99% thing is right. It isn't 1% who rule us, it is the 0.1% who rule us all. The moniker is fine, the statistic is wrong.

[–]ATX4DayzBrah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Forgive me if I am wrong but shouldn't it be about us 99% raging against the 1% who rule the world

No, no, no, no, you're wrong. Occupy Wallstreet only mattered 2 years ago to us. This is something new that the media can sensationalize, and distract us with. [s]

Really though, the length of people's attention span on things is pathetic at this point.

[–]ifuckinghatequeen 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think when a problem is part of a bigger problem, it doesn't mean that the 'sub-problem' should not be addressed. It's the same faulty reasoning when people say "why care about gender equility, I'm a humanist already."

[–]0473332002285 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but what takes priority? this is why leftist movements generally fail. They have too many agendas, too many interests, and not one single united message.

[–]Definitelynotasloth 23ポイント24ポイント  (10子コメント)

This video has inspired me to express my white guilt through social media activism. #Iamaprivilgedwhitemale

[–]HungrySadPanda 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

I AM A STRONG INDEPENDENT WHITE CIS MAILE WHO DON'T NEED NO MAN

[–]down_with_whomever 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

I did find it pretty odd that he felt the need to say he isn't proud of his heritage because of the color of his skin.

I wonder if he would have said that blacks also shouldn't be proud.

Something about this guy reeks of shit.

[–]selfish_liberal 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

He said blacks are proud of their race despite being told to feel ashamed of it. Whites have never been told to feel anything about their race. Thus, the invisible race theory.

imonlysmellingshitcomingfromyourgeneraldirection

[–]0473332002285 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So it would be better for us to feel pride? or guilt? This video is pretty self-contradictory.

[–]audiwark 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He explained in the video right at the point you are mentioning that white people historically haven't been told to be ashamed of their race unlike black people and other minorities.

[–]Anfernii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its ok, I forgive you. Want to grab some starbucks?

[–]Warondrugsmybutt 65ポイント66ポイント  (27子コメント)

This was an amazing video all the way up until 9:37 mark, then it just jumped off a cliff and shot itself in the head on the way down. "I am privileged to be a white straight male." What was the point of explaining the 3 tier caste system if you're just going to turn around and say that you're privileged because of your skin color and sexuality. You're still poor mother fucker!

[–]Ivan_Vasilievich 62ポイント63ポイント  (5子コメント)

You misunderstood. What he is saying is that he happens to possess those traits that society as a whole believes grant him an advantage in life. However that belief, according to him, only serves to divide the working class by creating an imagined asset to be envied by the blacks and to be proud of by the whites. The point isn't whether or not he has an advantage because he is white (one could make a good argument either way) but that he won't let it blind him to the real issue of class division and that both whites and blacks would benefit if they worked together in tackling the problems in their country rather than seeing each other as the enemy.

[–]Warondrugsmybutt 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

That makes sense. I had to rewatch the video.

[–]vichina 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Part of fighting the system and allying yourself with others is to notice the privileges that you have over others as well as the privileges they have over you. I think it helps to evaluate the social system that we have built over the ages.

[–]CaramelTHNDR 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes! I love this point. I often struggle with why some people can be so opposed to acknowledging the myriad benefits (be they big or small) they inherited at birth. Yes, you still worked hard and many times lived through things where it felt like the odds were against you and nothing was being "handed" to you, but in important instances, statistically speaking, you had an edge over many others. That doesn't make you a bad person or say anything about you as an individual. But failing to acknowledge it or worse denying it only serves to support a system that continues to divide rather than unite us, which as this video illustrates helps to keep those at the top at the top and the rest of squabbling over our unfair share.

[–]3_of_Spades 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's lucky because society says these things are good.

[–]captmarx 24ポイント25ポイント  (12子コメント)

We used to refer to black and poor people as underprivileged, simply to different degrees. But by calling white people privileged you're eliding the point that most white people are, on the whole, underprivileged and separating people who should be uniting into people having a pissing contest over who is more oppressed.

It's not a privilege to not be shot by the police. It's a right to not be shot by the police and if you're only less likely to be shot you're not privileged, you're less underprivileged.

We really need to get this point across. The rhetoric being used by the left is divisive and should be changed to be more inclusive. It's that simple.

[–]vvarpidgeon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He said he grew up poor, not that he IS poor. He's also pointing out that while whites share in getting the shaft with other minorities, we still have privilege just by being straight and white because of how our society has molded itself in to defining what is "normal".

[–]mikepat92 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

He was making a decent academic argument until then too (given it could've been stronger), but then it turned into an (popular) opinion piece

subjective points take the objectivity away!!

[–]bgog 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Passh He's CIS white male, his opinion doesnt matter. He must be wrong.

[–]mattdent54 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

BLACK KONY 2015 Fact: Black lives matter only when taken by a white person.

[–]ryebreadryan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

GET OUT OF MY FACE DUDE

[–]Stoodius 13ポイント14ポイント  (15子コメント)

Highly ironic...

[–]rabidpenis 18ポイント19ポイント  (12子コメント)

It is, because they switched messages at the end from "we are in this together" to "Black lives matter".

I thought I'd elaborate since you're being downvoted.

[–]potpie12 20ポイント21ポイント  (35子コメント)

Fuck his hypocrisy to have a video explaining how every american that is poor is fucked and then at the end say black lives matter instead of all lives matter? Blacks don't deserve special snowflake treatment by saying that only their lives matter fuck that movement, all lives matter.

It wasn't the 1 percent blocking a freeway to one of the regions biggest hospitals in CA, it wasn't the cops burning down LA or Ferguson and looting small and big business alike and it sure as fuck is not the 1 percent keeping the black community from voting on local elections every time.

Stop blaming culture problems on the rich, funny how real African-Americans you know the ones that actually immigrated from Africa a generation or two ago are academically and economically doing better by leaps and bounds than black-americans, must be the fault of the one percent too.

[–]miskerswhiskers 38ポイント39ポイント  (10子コメント)

To say something matters it does not mean things outside that category doesn't matter.

[–]DiversityOurStrength 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

Which is why people must apologize for saying white lives matter, because that means black lives don't matter?

"Black lives matter" doesn't matter. It's run by racists under a gossamer thin pretense of social justice.

If they cared about black lives, their primary target wouldn't be cops, it would be the culture of poverty that a huge portion of American blacks are complicit in propagating.

But that would require humility and introspection, which isn't as easy as being a racist and blaming everyone else for your problems.

[–]rabidpenis 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a lot of controversy around BlackLiverMatter because it's being championed by bigots to push blacks against whites.

[–]ShillOutDude 16ポイント17ポイント  (11子コメント)

Disproportionate killings of black people by police officers, systemic poverty, lack of access to fair and equitable education—those aren’t the problem.

[–]ShetlandJames 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Reading 'Black Lives Matter' as 'Only Black Lives Matter' is where you're going wrong. It's 'Black Lives Matter Too'

This sums it up far better than I ever will:

https://www.reddit.com/comments/3du1qm/

[–]picodroid -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

The problem is that when someone says "all lives matter" or "white lives matter" on a broadcast there is outrage and they are equated to being racist. It wasn't a problem until those who say "black lives matter" got angry at any other lives being said to matter, as if they were saying "only white lives matter". You've got your shit flipped.

[–]ShetlandJames 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

The guy addresses this in the video: "I don't need to feel while pride because I've never been made to feel ashamed of my race" - it's the same with Black Lives Matter.

White Lives Matter is assumed, that's why it's Black Lives Matter Too.

[–]SecularVirginian 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I guess I shouldn't every say that cancer research matters?

[–]karmicnoose 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Just curious, but do the 15% 24% of Americans who aren't white or black (as of the 2010 census) all end up in the "masters" caste?

EDIT: Messed up the census data

[–]wilfoy 5ポイント6ポイント  (13子コメント)

He lost me as soon as he referenced A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.

[–]BlueVeins 6ポイント7ポイント  (12子コメント)

Why?

[–]wilfoy 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Because Howard Zinn was a literal card-carrying communist who wrote the book with the goal of recasting all of American history as a Marxist class struggle. It's chock full of editorialization and he slectively recounts only the parts of history that reinforce his extremist worldview. In the parts of his book that relate to the Cold War, he simply parrots KGB propaganda as though it is a valid "re-interpretation" of history. Of course, he never discloses that his version of events is perfectly in line with the old Agitprop.

[–]BradInBlack 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Slow down there McCarthy

[–]wilfoy -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

I have literally no respect for anyone who self-identifies as a communist. This is doubly true of a historian who self-identifies as a communist.

[–]BradInBlack 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol why? And can you give me a source where he admits to being a communist?

[–]wilfoy 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because communism has killed and oppressed more people in the past 100 years than anything else ever conceived by man. Communists claim to care about the plight of the working man, but few things are more miserable than the life of a working man in a communist state.

Recently declassified FBI files on Howard Zinn reveal that he was a leading member of the King's County Communist Party, that he taught workshop classes on "basic Marxism," and that the theme of those classes was "that the basic teachings of Marx and Lenin were sound and should be adhered to by those present."

[–]BradInBlack 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see on page 149 in that document that the FBI had a hard time finding evidence that he was actually a member of any communist organization. All of their early informants were "confidential," which isn't surprising given the time period these documents come from.

“Because of lack of evidence of membership in a basic revolutionary organization since 1953, subject’s name was included in the Reserve Index, Section A, rather than in the Security Index,”

The document also claims on page 7 to have gotten information from his sister Doris Zinn who doesn't exist according to Howard Zinn's daughter. This is also the same shit the FBI tried to pull on Martin Luther King, Jr.

[–]_Zuckuss_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Zinn once described himself as an anarchist and his works are largely pedagogy; not an objective reporting of history, but written with an ideological perspective to inspire others to act on that ideology.

[–]BlueVeins 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Have you read "A People's History of the United States of America"? It's largely comprised of original source documents; journal entries and official political documents. He may have an angle, but he's citing those people's own words, which are pretty damning, in and of themselves.

[–]caesar_the_ape_king 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The anotation in the book is tight. I think about 15% of the pages are annotations of sources.

[–]Zildjian11 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because of the sheer amount of information we have about the past, to make a book that is a readable length, you have to choose pieces of info that you deem important, and by that act you are, intentionally or not, furthering an ideology. If you write an American history book and only talk about leaders and generals and other large historical figures, you are putting forward an ideology by omitting populist movements and the lives/plight of the masses. There's no way you can cover all of American history and omit nothing. You have to determine what's worth touching on and what isn't. I believe in the forward of the book Zinn actually talks explicitly of that iirc. Howard Zinn wrote that book under the assumption that the reader already has a general knowledge of American history, from high school or otherwise. Therefore, he put an emphasis on parts of the past 500 years that weren't taught in school, and that also fulfill his ideology. On any scope other than the painfully detailed, you cannot report history unbaisedly. What you choose to report or omit, creates an ideology. History is the interpretation of the past. You can disagree with Howard Zinn, I mean he does put forward a strong ideology and it's totally fine to disagree with that, but don't get caught up on this notion that only he is putting forward an ideology.

[–]SpaghettiFan1995 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

This video started off good but then went crazy SJW thoery bs. I'm sure all the likes were made during the first 3 minutes

[–]DepolarizedNeuron 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

who is this guy? he has done several, of what seems, informative videos. i just feel hes up to something for some reason

[–]StealingStansKarma 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well he makes videos for the poor yet has somehow acquired 7 million for venture capitalists. He is making a video about something he can't relate to. I would say he is up to something.

[–]outdoorsman123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What this video does not address is the rise after ww2 in the middle class and how middle class tend to do well off and then side with corporations who pay them a good lifestyle. With the exodus of manufacturing jobs and rise of the cost of college education (caused by guaranteed gov loans) the divide becomes more apparent when the poor cant reach middle class. Government loans only hurt the poor by causing them to remain indebted for an education when in the 1970's virtually anyone could work their way through college on a low skilled job as long as they had a drive and decent grades. The middle class was also screwed since the cost went up and they no longer qualified for aid. The rich were the only ones who could afford it and this has lead to a great divide opportunity.

How do we fix this, opportunity is the only answer. If the poor cant see themselves in a decent lifestyle, the will be more susceptible to crime. Opportunity for good paying work out of highschool (trade),or chance to work through an affordable college without debt/ very little in a field with great job prospects. Without this the divide grows and crime skyrockets for all races and especially minorities who feel discriminated against. More also needs to be done when it came to tariffs for import in order to encourage companies to invest in workers in usa.

While racism is defiantly an issue, i believe the bigger issue is economic prosperity and mobility.

[–]llamatoe0 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you don't break the law... You don't go to jail.. EASY

[–]remeranAuthor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're breaking the law right now.

[–]Alecaz 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not a bad video. Brought up some things I've never thought of (although I am Australian and not American).

[–]AlphaWookie -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry about us over here in America you need to be busy feeling guilty for the Stolen Generation and teaching your kids to feel guilty, so they can teach there kids to feel guilty about it.

[–]notjawn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He brings up some great points but yeah this is way too editorialized ("sexy" lighting and dramatic music) to be taken as authoritative. I guess it just boils down to not being mean as shit to people who look different from you. Oddly enough, the golden rule still works marvelously.

[–]itssbrian 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How to Class Bait 101

[–]kharsus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

dang, whole lot of dumb fucking people itt missed the fucking point.

[–]Neoxide 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The beginning was okay. It started out as the parts of history you don't hear about, because they don't fit the agenda. Then he completely shoves the mainstream media narrative down your throat.

[–]Weiner-Holder-2020 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't want to go to prison? Don't break the law. Simple. Don't believe in a law? Become politically active to change it.

[–]opie_my_orange_kitty -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

This was very well put together. I liked it alot, thanks

[–]AlphaWookie -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are easily entertained.

[–]OldCarSmell42 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Get this trash out of here. Literally turned it off when he started shilling for that socialist garbage.

[–]noodlesdefyyou 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i clicked on this thinking it was a video for racing games, and baiting opponents in to walls or other hilarious circumstances.

[–]9ndb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He used individual derelict buildings to represent entire American cities.

I thought that a little misleading...

[–]thirstyfish209 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought this was a guide on how to start street races with people.

[–]shuun45 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought this video was gonna be about racing.

[–]J0NSN0W__ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Glad to see my city, which is top 5 population, not make that list :D

[–]tyrotio 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did have a problem with his conflating indentured servitude and slavery at the start of the video, but his progression of the development of racial divides in slavery made up for the misspeak.

[–]remeranAuthor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit: "I liked this video that said white people have it tough until it emphasized that black people have it worse. This video is garbage."

[–]Koolgtrap 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ITT: butthurt whites lmao...i use to taught SJWs were the epitome of outrage culture

[–]Cydonia21 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

After watching this video there is clearly only one option... vote Democrat so we can tripple the size, power, and influence of the federal government. That will end all of this...

[–]pickled_nickel -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

My Black doctors and nurses seem to be doing fine. They have respect and seem pretty happy with their lives. I've had positive experiences in almost every profession where the person was black.

The problem lies when people lump all Black people into the same bunch. The actual anti-social types are placed on a pedestal and their criminal behavior is ignored or given some "socio-economical" excuse because its stigmatized as racist. Doing this does no favor to Black people that earned and assimilated into general society to succeed.

Black people are still a minority in the US. It seems some people will never be satisfied and yell racism until Black people are the majority in every field. They look at every non-Black person trying to struggle their way into success as racists holding the Black people down.

As a non-White immigrant to the US myself, this is my observation.

[–]Rainbowedwalrus -3ポイント-2ポイント  (13子コメント)

The book he is pushing is written by an anarcho socialist.

[–]catsandicecream 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

ok. and?

[–]Nawmangnaw 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haven't you heard? Everything that isn't 2-Party-Representative Democratic Free Market Capitalism is anti freedom and thus anti-American and thus not worthy of discussion or consideration.

[–]JasonMacker 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yes, it was written by Howard Zinn, a globally renowned academic with a PhD in history. Great read, his book. If you're interested in reading the book, it is available (with Howard Zinn's permission) at historyisaweapon.com. Feel free to read it.

[–]Rainbowedwalrus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I did read it. I only wanted to point out that the book may come across as heavily biased to some readers.

[–]macblastoff 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Aww, damnnnn. So they finally pulled his PhD posthumously?

Maybe "with a PhD in history." would have gone over more smoothly.

[–]JasonMacker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I actually initially wrote "has a PhD in history" but it sounds kinda weird for a dead person to possess things (or does it?)... thanks for the suggestion. Fixed.

[–]andoryu123 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Less information more inciting hatred of people rabble rabble rabble.

[–]bjjhigh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So as person of east asian descent who was born in North America, where do I fit in all of this?

Why is he promoting 'Black Lives Matter'? It should be 'All Lives Matter'

[–]bx8 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like this video was trying to bait me on emotions rather than facts... and I question some of the statistics that where mentioned...

I don't know how to feel about this.

[–]CAHBlue3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel left out. Yellow lives matter too.

[–]CarnalUrge 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, now I want to throw bricks at rich people.

[–]RIPKingSteelo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lies My Teacher Told Me by James Loewen is a nice addition to Howard Zinn's A People's History.

It goes through American history and looking at the most common high school history textbooks.

Full PDF versions of: Lies My Teacher Told Me

A People's History

[–]vman4402 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is the same rant as any other group that claims oppression.
They demand equality, but really want to be the oppressing majority. Feminism, LGBT, vegans, PETA, hipsters, hamsters...

We're all the same. We want to be in charge so we can make the rules that benefit us.

[–]DeadlyPear 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the fuck are you talking about. He didn't say anything even remotely near to that.