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[–]spez[S,A] -923ポイント-922ポイント-921ポイント 11時間前x2 (612子コメント)
They sexualize minors, which have been against our policies for a long time.
[–]blumangroup 154ポイント155ポイント156ポイント 7時間前* (47子コメント)
In Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition, the Supreme Court invalidated an act of Congress which would have made sexual drawings of children illegal. In the decision, the Supreme Court noted that the law was a "stark example of speech suppression" because it prohibited visual depiction of underage teenagers engaged in sexual activity, which is a "fact of modern society and has been a theme in art and literature throughout the ages."
The Court then goes on to note all the works of art and literature that depict "children" (underage teenagers) having sex: Romeo and Juliet, Traffic, American Beauty.
Are you going to ban /r/literature if it has a discussion about the book Lolita? Sexualization of minors isn't limited to the subs you banned. It exists so ubiquitously in our society that the Supreme Court thought banning it would be an unprecedented intrusion on free speech.
This ban has nothing to do with the content policy. The Supreme Court made a clear distinction between laws that protect children (banning pornography that depicts real children) and laws that target content we don't like (e.g. drawings of children having sex). Reddit's policies were clearly aimed at the former (actual depictions of real children). The subs you banned violated your new content policy, which is: don't be a sub that has stuff the Reddit team doesn't like, unless you're a popular sub (SRS, WTF), and then it's cool.
edit: (responding to comments) Yes, I know the 1st Amendment is not legally binding on a private website. I talked about the case mostly because (a) Reddit claims to be somewhere that values freedom of expression and (b) to reference the parts of the decision that talk about how widespread "sexualization of minors" is in our culture, literature, and art. And yes, I realize that Reddit can do whatever it wants, but it should at least follow its own rules in a consistent way.
[–]TheCid 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Someone spews nonsense, users quote a literal Supreme Court decision back at them.
This is why the site is awesome, /u/spez. The users who have had a take-no-bullshit atittude for years. /u/blumangroup has apparently only been here for 2 years, but this post is something we would have seen 6 years ago.
Seriously, stop the pandering to the whiny SJWs. The tide has been turning against them for months now and it's only going to go further against them in the future.
Ban SRS for their incessant vote-brigading, restore the majority of currently-banned subreddits (in quarantined state), remove the verified e-mail requirement for accessing quarantined subreddits, and stop shadowbanning users like you said you would!
[–]FloatyFloat 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
My thought process:
How is it that spez gets gold but this guy doesn't? --> I need to gild this guy. --> But then I'd be supporting reddit. --> ???
[–]ergzay 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
For people looking for where things went. The community has transplanted to https://voat.co/v/lolicon. I suggest any users of content that has been deemed poor taste by reddit (but not illegal) should move over to voat.
[–]zeroedout666 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (4子コメント)
Let this be a test or Reddit banning. If you get banned for this post, they are such fail.
[–]Scarbane 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (5子コメント)
Lol, /u/spez wouldn't ban or quarantine /r/literature, that would upset the feminists, and he's not allowed to do that.
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 3時間前 (4子コメント)
How does any of this have to do with feminists?
[–]sifumokung 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (2子コメント)
Because many believe they are the undercurrent of most of the policy changes and community enforcement.
I do not know if these fears are true. I just know it's starting to feel a little too "Human Resourcey" around here. And it means I'll be leaving the site soon, for good.
I don't need the internet to be sanitized for me by other people. I can choose for myself what subreddits to subscribe to, and which ones to ignore. None of the offending subreddits were ever an issue for me, as I did not subscribe to their shit.
I resent being treated like a helpless child.
Fuck reddit. It was fun while it lasted. I hope they all get rich selling their "internet in a can" bullshit. I'll be at Voat and see how that grows. If they suck too, I'll just surf Popurls.com and aggregate my own content without a community of intolerant moralfags.
[–]Anonymish 891ポイント892ポイント893ポイント 11時間前 (177子コメント)
This is a difficult choice for you to make, but I think you've made the wrong one. Your policy regarding minors is clearly geared at keeping child porn off the site, and I don't think anyone disagrees with that. However, drawings are not illegal in the United States, and don't pose a problem for you from a legal point of view. Unlike actual child porn, they don't cause any harm to children (or adults). What they do is offer an outlet for those who are attracted to children. No one can help what they're into, be it BSDM or rape roleplay or consensual sex in the missionary position between married adults. The same goes for pedos - they didn't choose it, and shouldn't be demonized for that. It's another matter entirely to sexually abuse children, but if they aren't guilty of that then they have not done anything wrong. Subreddits like /r/pomf give them some kind of sexual pleasure without involving children, which is a positive thing. Without that, frustration builds and eventually might lead to actual child abuse. There are also some people who aren't attracted to real children, but who get off on the innocence and fantasy of lolicon, fantasies that couldn't be emulated in the real world and that they don't want to emulate in the real world, and it's not very nice to deny them this.
I feel like you went with your gut on this one. Instead, think harder about it. It's not harmful to anyone and without it, things might even be worse.
Side note, downvoting /u/spez will hide his comments and suppress discussion on the matter. Don't do it!
[–]TheCodexx 59ポイント60ポイント61ポイント 8時間前 (8子コメント)
Your policy regarding minors is clearly geared at keeping child porn off the site, and I don't think anyone disagrees with that.
This, exactly. I have precisely zero objections to the idea of people jerkin' it to CP. What I have an issue with is the rampant exploitation required to produce CP in the first place, and it's usually asked that pedophiles produce more before it's distributed to them to keep a cycle of new images flowing. For that reason, CP is harmful and should be discouraged.
But if Loli is treated the same way, you basically give people who want to jerk to it zero outlet. You make them hunt it down on shady sites. Good work. Assuming the people who like Loli are actually pedophiles (I don't believe all of them are; enough Lolis are ambiguous enough in age that people who like petite girls are interested as well) you're basically forcing them to go somewhere that's shadier than reddit and wants original content. So congrats, the new policy change means a child might be exploited. GG admins. Good to know you care more about PR than protecting anyone.
[–]WhipWing 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 7時間前 (4子コメント)
(I don't believe all of them are; enough Lolis are ambiguous enough in age that people who like petite girls are interested as well)
So much this, Thank you. Some people just don't understand that even for those of us that enjoy Loli, the "toddlercon" aspect of it that is also injected into that grouping (can't think of a better way to describe) isn't all of our cups of tea.
[–]Syyiailea 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
Speaking of, if /r/lolicons was banned, what in the living hell is /r/Todcon still doing up? As a lolicon, I'm pissed that the admins took down /r/lolicons , but if you're going to be idiots, at least be consistent!
[–]WhipWing 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
I feel like that is probably because subs like Lolicon, Pomf, Shotacon Etc... were the big name ones. Sure we didn't flaunt our sub all over reddit and we didn't annoy/push ourselves on any other community but we were the largest. I for one didn't even know /r/Todcon was a sub until you just linked it. So they must be pretty low on the radar or I guess I just never attempted to search for it. Either way I'm hoping for an Admin to speak about this topic more sometime soon. Even if they say something stupid again as long as this discussion doesn't die.
[–]tobin1677 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 40分前 (0子コメント)
If we assume that this list is accurate I would guess that member count wasn't a limiting factor in their finding of subs, after all some of the smallest ones on this list had as few as 4 members before being banned.
[–]uss1701jb 84ポイント85ポイント86ポイント 11時間前 (35子コメント)
Side note, downvoting /u/spez[2] Reddit Co-founder, CEO will hide his comments and suppress discussion on the matter. Don't do it!
No, it won't. It will force them to the bottom of the replies to whatever they are replying to, but admins' comments don't get hidden.
[–]gamelizard 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 10時間前 (17子コメント)
It will force them to the bottom of the replies to whatever they are replying to
that's still problematic. its probably one of the stupidest things i see reddit do. down-vote some one who we need to see the statements of, which pushes them away from visibility, when the reason you are down voting is a around issues of censorship.
[–]MyDogShitsTigers 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 9時間前 (8子コメント)
It happens literally everywhere on the site. It's a disagree button, despite the rules. Getting upset over it only when it happens to admins is insulting to everyone else who gets downvoted while participating in a discussion.
[–]gamelizard 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
i get upset at it all the time with people who arent the admins. i used to complain all the time, but i stopped when i got tired of it. finally just because something is common practice doesn't stop it from being stupid as hell.
[–]EmeraldKnight92 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 9時間前 (5子コメント)
Getting upset over it only when it happens to admins...
I'd like to stop you right there and point out that this sounds like one hell of an assumption. It seems irresponsible to assert that /u/gamelizard only gets upset when it happens to admins without any indication that this is indeed the case.
[–]MyDogShitsTigers 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Fair enough.
[–]uss1701jb 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
despite the rules.
Nope, that's just Reddiquette.
https://www.reddit.com/wiki/reddiquette#wiki_in_regard_to_voting
[–]GarrioValere 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
He's at -400 and still at the top of the comment chain.
[–]astrofreak92 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 10時間前 (14子コメント)
They do get hidden on mobile.
[–]DR_McBUTTFUCK 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 10時間前 (11子コメント)
We should let them know then, so that they can fix that.
[–]mennoniteminuterice 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 10時間前 (10子コメント)
That's an app thing, not a Reddit thing.
[–]perthguppy 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Actually, they do, I only found this comment by looking at Spez's profile
[–]anarchism4thewin 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
It won't even do that, if you've sorted by "q and a" as is the default for this thread.
[–]MrBokbagok 110ポイント111ポイント112ポイント 10時間前 (31子コメント)
its not about legality, its about prepping this site for sale.
[–]adinsx-bejoty 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Yup, can't wait for the HR approved speech explaining why they want to move on to other things and are now leaving the site in the capable hands of Betaworks.
[–]Kaique94 68ポイント69ポイント70ポイント 10時間前 (19子コメント)
Yup. /r/SexWithDogs and /r/SexWithHorses is illegal, but still allowed here. Or, if I want to get pedantic, weed is illegal in most states, /r/trees gets a pass.
This is about being as PC as humanly possible. Not legality.
[–]hsifyllej 36ポイント37ポイント38ポイント 10時間前 (12子コメント)
Viewing bestiality porn is completely legal, it's the production that's not allowed
[–]Kaique94 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Fair enough. I really don't care since I'm fine with chicken being killed so I can eat them, just pointing out reddit's hypocrisy.
[–]RedAero 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 10時間前 (10子コメント)
And so is loli.
[–]river710 32ポイント33ポイント34ポイント 9時間前 (9子コメント)
The production of loli is not illegal.
[–]Savage_X 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
They'd better be selling fast, because they are steadily destroying value in the site.
[–]JonasBrosSuck 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 10時間前 (6子コメント)
so how do we make reddit as non-profitable as possible?
[–]SheeEttin 32ポイント33ポイント34ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
The staff seems to be doing that pretty well on their own.
[–]JonasBrosSuck 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
obviously not enough, i'm talking about a obvious change that the admins will see the users are not happy. It's clear that complaining in these threads are not helping and the admins are still doing whatever they want banning subreddits based on vague rules
[–]mud074 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Adblock, don't buy gold, tell people who are interested about alternatives. That's about all you can do unless you want to actively shit up the site in which case you are just as bad as the admins.
[–]Uwutnowhun 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Bingo.
[–]Rebbit_Man 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
It's certainly better than upvoting.
[–]Guardian960 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 10時間前 (3子コメント)
But how else can we show that we see through his bullshit?
[–]samnya745 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (2子コメント)
Just Continue to discuss it and upvote the people who point out his bullshit. If we hide his comments, we also hide all of the important replies. When their comments are hidden goes from "wow that reddit admin is terrible, and this guy made a great point on why this site sucks" to "oh it looks like reddit hasn't said anything about this , oh well."
[–]centerflag982 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4時間前 (1子コメント)
If we hide his comments, we also hide all of the important replies.
What important replies? Reddit admins don't reply to hardball questions, you should know that by now
[–]samnya745 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
I meant the people replying to them. The ones who say the important questions. If you hide what the reddit admins say then you also hide everything that is being said to them
[–]SuperAwesomeNinjaGuy 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Im pretty sure his bullshit answers and skirting around why he hasnt got rid of SRS/SRD is suppressing the discussion.
[–]B11111 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I could be wrong as I don't really keep up with child porn regulations, but aren't drawings "depictions", thus making them illegal in some countries? And isn't one of those countries Canada, where Reddit is still fairly popular?
[+]mennoniteminuterice スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 10時間前* (2子コメント)
So, while I TOTALLY want to understand where you're coming from and I've seen a lot here on this particular narrative-it comes down to the question of:
Do you want to be the person that hosts it? I can tell you that I don't and while I understand there are struggles that these people go through I will be transparent and freely admit that I don't want to be attached to that. I would not host that content or foster it on my site (I don't have a site, btw).
It's a tough issue and I do feel those particular people are marginalized but try to put it three feet in front of you and maybe it'll be simpler to understand the position almost everyone in the world takes on the matter.
E* I suppose when I say "host" I'm being liberal with the word, but my point stands.
E** Downvotes for trying to explain an issue.
[–]Rils 31ポイント32ポイント33ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Well, most of the images aren't hosted here, and imgur seems to have little issue with hosting it.
[+]nosoupforyou25 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-50ポイント-49ポイント-48ポイント 10時間前* (43子コメント)
I don't know man, I'm judging the shit out of anyone sexually attracted to children. In real life or drawings. That's fucked up.
Edit: I am not arguing against your right to free speech on the reddit platform. However, If you think a child can be a sexual object, I beg for you to go get real mental medical attention. You need help, real serious help. There is nothing sexual about a small child. You cannot liken it to homosexuality. There is absolutely zero justification. Please seek help.
Edit 2: generally surprised how many people are justifying pedophilia. Wow
[–]Anonymish 56ポイント57ポイント58ポイント 10時間前 (17子コメント)
Think about what you get off to. Did you decide to be into that one day, or are you just naturally into that? Why not be into some other kind of porn (gay if you're straight and vice versa)? It's because you don't have a choice. Rape is another thing that's fucked up, but responsible couples do rape roleplay all the time. Don't shame people for their sexual desires. Shame them for acting them out inappropriately - actually raping people, actually abusing children, and so on.
[–]Reqim 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
generally surprised how many people are justifying pedophilia.
You are absolutely mentally challenged. They are just DRAWINGS OR CARTOONS. Just like how VIDEO GAMES are VIDEO GAMES. It helps many people to go through what they are going through.
[–]vocaloid_mayu 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 10時間前 (4子コメント)
Can you choose who or what you're sexually attracted to? Judging someone for their kinks/fetishes is like judging someone for being gay or having brown hair.
[–]Rils 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 10時間前 (9子コメント)
People said the same thing about homosexuals.
[–]KinarA_ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Are you really saying that pedophiles are on, or even close to the same level as homosexuals? This is fucking disgusting.
[–]cdos93 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 9時間前 (3子コメント)
Tell me about it bro. Apparently, for being so morally righteous as to oppose something as innocent as CP, I was called a censorious puritan fuck
[–]Drauv -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
I can't believe people are trying to justify sexualizing minors. I'm all for reddit as a bastion of free speech, hell I'm even fine with leaving racist subs even if I completely disagree with them because I don't like censorship. But you'd think we could all agree that CP and CP-related content is just a bad idea.
[–]nosoupforyou25 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
There really shouldn't be room for an opinion on any CP related material. At all. I'm generally surprised there's not an overwhelming vocal majority that can agree to that.
[–]MrFlagg 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
However, drawings are not illegal in the United States
you get that the WWW is world wide eh?
[–]R706 744ポイント745ポイント746ポイント 10時間前* (61子コメント)
Actual footage of having sex with dogs which is also illegal in certain countries AKA /r/sexwithdogs - Fine.
Something you could draw in your room with a pencil and paper AKA lolicon - Not Fine.
Got it.
The reality is more like, any controversial subreddit goes unless it becomes big enough to get the attention of your sponsors etc, then it gets banned.
I know what you're doing since the start. The small drip feed of working through the transition so as not to create too much fallout all at once.
If I was even a remotely controversial subreddit community I'd leave reddit now or at the very least have some contingency plan in place because these "updates" are just going to keep happening for the foreseeable future.
[–]qkk 51ポイント52ポイント53ポイント 9時間前 (25子コメント)
unless it becomes big enough to get the attention of your sponsors etc, then it gets banned
They repeatedly banned /r/optingout, (and /r/optingout2, 3 and 4 and so on) which used to be a really thoughtful sub for pro-suicide discussion. It was a really small sub who didn't catch anyone's attention and didn't cause any drama, but they banned it with no warning and no explanation numerous times, with no chance to appeal.
So yeah, there is no rationale behind admins' decisions. They ban indiscriminately and only bother to make excuses once the complaints become too loud.
[–]Narian 42ポイント43ポイント44ポイント 9時間前 (5子コメント)
Anything that advertisers don't like (aka nothing with even a butter knife edge) is getting pruned, quarantined, removed, banned, etc.
Spez is just doing it more surgically and with more communication than Pao and co. The mission is still ongoing - people are just being lulled because they want to be, it's human nature to ignore the worst till you are forced to face it.
[–]DubinJohnson 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 8時間前 (4子コメント)
I think there are a lot of people who aren't going to feel any worse about reddit when it's just cats and news and woodworking. They aren't being lulled- they just don't have strong opinions about controversial content on reddit.
Nor does that mean they don't care about important social issues. They don't see reddit as a battleground, and their experience here isn't going to be all that different, or worse, if all the controversial content is gone.
[–]ItsHapppening 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6時間前 (2子コメント)
They won't lose them, they will lose the people more invested in the site.
Free speech means a lot to people even if they don't wrongthink.
[–]IAMADonaldTrump 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
they will lose the people more invested in the site
Yeah, but that's the plan. Generally the people who think less buy more. This is all about money at this point. Don't we feel like jackasses for controversying and free-speeching this site into the big leagues, only to be thrown under the bus.
[–]DubinJohnson 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Maybe the rationale was to prevent people from committing suicide by refusing to host a pro-suicide forum? That seems...pretty discriminate to me.
[–]DarkLoad1 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Maybe they don't want to host that shit. Why should they have to host that? What makes you think that's just the advertisers? What's fucking wrong with you people.
[–]mega_trex 117ポイント118ポイント119ポイント 8時間前 (7子コメント)
drawing = banned
animal abuse = OK
someone dies on /r/wtf = OK
someone dies on /r/watchpeopledie = quarantined
[–]Rossco1337 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
This seems like the most concise summary I've seen. I've not even used any of the affected subreddits but the hypocrisy from the staff here is blinding.
[–]uss1701jb 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
It doesn't appear that WPD has been quarantined, which is weird.
[–]Openworldgamer47 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
Ya it really is, they seem to be more focused on taking down subs discriminating against others (IE racism, stereotyping, etc) rather then say death and gore in general. I'm going to be honest and say that I'd have no problem AT ALL with WPD and WTF being permanently banned forever.
[–]DidijustDidthat 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
/r/WTF is fine, just a bit annoying when people submit rubbish content (disgusting gross or inappropriate things without tags). /r/watchpeopledie is not a curiosity I have whilst on reddit but I have seen videos in which people die. I wouldn't suggest it to anybody but it's an experience.
I really don't understand your childish position.
[–]Rils 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
A child's corpse is displayed without consent on /r/picsofdeadkids = perfectly fine.
[–]skilliard4 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Actual photographs of tortured/murdered kids are apparently ok according to reddit, but a shitty drawing of a fictional character that looks under 18 is not ok.
[–]butylparaben 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
The reality is more like
$$$$$
[–]SuperAwesomeNinjaGuy 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
Well some SJW decided that she is going to get people to contact reddits advertisers yesterday because of racist content.
https://archive.is/EtkUN
And magically the subs are gone. Hmmmm.
[–]nomofica 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 8時間前 (1子コメント)
You say that as if those subreddits weren't already in their crosshairs.
[–]SuperAwesomeNinjaGuy 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
I dont deny that for a second.
[–]DivinePrince2 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
There is also /r/sexwithhorses
[–]TurbidusQuaerenti 285ポイント286ポイント287ポイント 10時間前* (8子コメント)
So much for "banning behavior, not ideas". It's clearly become "banning anything we or our advertisers find offensive." Nobody wants to be the guy defending lolicon, but the blatant hypocrisy is astounding.
And as others have said, does this mean erotica and anime/manga related subs are next? They have fictional underage content somewhat often. This is definitely not a good direction Reddit is heading in.
[–]ornothumper 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
From another comment he made...
If we want to improve Reddit, we need more people, but CT's existence and popularity has also made recruiting here more difficult.
They are literally pulling standards out of their ass. They have no commitment to any core principles.
[–]stemgang 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Bingo!
You know what would be simpler to manage? Just cut out the middleman.
Give advertisers admin accounts and let them ban whoever they want. That way all content stays bland and unobjectionable.
And actual Reddit staff can claim they have no control over the process.
[–]Nelrene 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
It's clearly become "banning anything we or our advertisers find offensive
Yeah that is looks like it, unlike the other subreddits that were banned /r/Lolicons/ was keeping to themselves not bothering anyone. The rules seem to be only enforced when the advertisers make a stink and why shitholes like /r/CoonTown was banned was not because they they were making trouble but because advertisers said they did not like it
This direction Reddit is heading in worries me as I can see this effecting a bunch of other subreddits.
[–]PintSizedPinata 39ポイント40ポイント41ポイント 9時間前* (0子コメント)
Hell, I'll defend lolicon I've done it before! I made a CMV on the subject and a lot of good debates were had.
/r/NotLoli
[–]alex_wifiguy 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
I'll defend it. What this means is it's only a matter of time before they are going to kill our dragons.
[–]Leaves_Swype_Typos 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4分前 (0子コメント)
I thought for sure that was going to be a different dragons.
[–]Saphazure 74ポイント75ポイント76ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
Okay, banning subs like /r/lolicon wasn't cool. /r/sexwithdogs, /r/cutefemalecorpses, and way worse subs with actual sort of snuff content are untouched, but drawings aren't? If I draw a stickman with a dick, and I don't write on the side "he's over 18 guys don't worry!" I can get my shit removed? What the hell, man? You can't ban drawings, it's like banning imagination. Besides, half the characters on that sub were way over 18...some even thousands of years old. How do you even judge that?
[–]fortified_concept 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 5時間前* (1子コメント)
The advertisers didn't like them so they were banned. Reddit is so compromised at this point that you might as well ask them instead of the PR puppet that keeps changing his story and lying to our faces.
Don't get me wrong, I despise neonazi fucks and I'm too keen on people who look at underage drawings but "violating the spirit of the policy by making reddit worse" isn't a fucking appropriate response. Do they think we're fucking stupid or something? What kind of generic PR talk and vague rules are these?
[–]Hipolipolopigus 77ポイント78ポイント79ポイント 10時間前* (57子コメント)
I can understand your (Reddit's) position on the matter, but Lolicon isn't illegal in the US (Although there's a lot of contention around that) and is actually considered protected speech.
[–]adam35711 58ポイント59ポイント60ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Yea who are these awful people hurting these drawings of children
I wish they were more like the upstanding citizens having /r/sexwithdogs they only hurt real freaking dogs
[–]snorlz 108ポイント109ポイント110ポイント 10時間前 (16子コメント)
Oh so now the truth comes out that you didnt ban them for policy reasons but because you disliked content? animated porn hasnt been against your policies for a long time, dont lie. those subs would have been banned long ago if that was true
How can you say that animation=real life? thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. i'll be sure to report you for public nudity the next time you draw a penis
[–]poke2201 82ポイント83ポイント84ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Yes, the poor fictional drawings. While youre at it, ban /r/hentai because they have drawings of rape, which is probably against your policies.
[–]OmnomoBoreos 33ポイント34ポイント35ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Drawings are unable to give consent, so therefore all drawings must be banned.
[–]mn920 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Remember what Reddit said when "jailbait" was banned?
We understand that this might make some of you worried about the slippery slope from banning one specific type of content to banning other types of content. We're concerned about that too, and do not make this policy change lightly or without careful deliberation. We will tirelessly defend the right to freely share information on reddit in any way we can, even if it is offensive or discusses something that may be illegal.
Damn that was prophetic.
[–]raffastafarian 47ポイント48ポイント49ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
They sexualize minors
No, they sexualized cartoons. Fictional, imaginary cartoons, many of whom had cat ears or tails.
[–]Parasymphatetic 225ポイント226ポイント227ポイント 11時間前 (27子コメント)
What about stories involving minors in /r/erotica or /r/incest?
[–]Kaique94 74ポイント75ポイント76ポイント 10時間前 (19子コメント)
What about having /r/SexWithDogs?
Oh, that's still fine.
[–]n3onfx 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Same logic should apply to a sub like this than kid fantasy subs. In the end the target of the sexual fantasies cannot give consent, so why is one banned and not the other? I'm not going to cry over the removal of such subs, just thinking about their content makes me shudder.
But the whole thing reeks of inconsistency and "here are rules that may or may not apply depending on if we decide this is acceptable or not in our eyes". Just be consistent Reddit, and say that you are banning things because they hurt your image.
[–]Oh_God_its_Jesus 31ポイント32ポイント33ポイント 10時間前 (5子コメント)
As long as the dog is over 18.
[–]Kaique94 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 10時間前 (4子コメント)
So, in dog years.. 2.5? That's fucked.
[–]-ShadowSerenity- 26ポイント27ポイント28ポイント 10時間前 (3子コメント)
So are the dogs in that sub.
[–]Kaique94 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
And the horses in /r/SexWithHorses.
[–]QuinMartinProduction 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Do you work for them or something?
[–]Kaique94 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Nah, I just like pointing out how reddit is full of shit. I also like shocking people.
See also: /r/spacedicks.
[–]DangerChipmunk 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 10時間前 (8子コメント)
Should I assume that sub is exactly what I think it is? I really don't want to find out the hard way.
[–]Kaique94 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 10時間前 (7子コメント)
Yup, it's exactly what it is.
[–]DangerChipmunk 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 10時間前 (6子コメント)
Fucking hell. I love to see reddit applying their rules consistently.
[–]Kaique94 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 10時間前 (5子コメント)
It gets better, depending on your perspective.. /r/SexWithHorses
[–]DangerChipmunk 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 10時間前 (4子コメント)
I'm going to take a break from reddit now.
[–]jmnugent 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 9時間前 (2子コメント)
And for an encore,.... https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonsfuckingcars
[–]PhinsPhan89 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
/r/eyebleach for when you get back. Totally SFW and tame, I promise.
[–]Kensin 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Reddit loves and actively supports sex with dogs. They must, because they openly ban content they personally find distasteful yet, /r/sexwithdogs is still active.
[–]sinebiryan 69ポイント70ポイント71ポイント 11時間前 (13子コメント)
It's not even illegal in Japan after the recent child porn ban.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/07/15/national/crime-legal/hit-global-criticism-japan-bans-individual-possession-child-porn-images-manga-exempt/#.VaZiu0o8KrW
[–]templemount 60ポイント61ポイント62ポイント 10時間前 (19子コメント)
Except the content policy doesn't have anything to say about it. Where exactly is this policy stated?
[–]AsamiWithPrep 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 8時間前 (18子コメント)
I don't necessarily agree with it being banned, and I don't see how they got from involuntary to loli, but it is hidden away in the content policy
Content is prohibited if it Is involuntary pornography
Content is prohibited if it
Is involuntary pornography
and from the link
content that encourages or promotes pedophilia or sexual imagery–including animated content–that involves individuals under the age of 18.
[–]crystalshipsdripping 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 7時間前 (15子コメント)
How are you supposed to prove a fictional drawing is of age or not? Some adults look like children anyways.
[–]JBHUTT09 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 6時間前* (13子コメント)
And in anime you've got plenty of 18+ characters that look like children:
Shana from Shakugan no Shana
Shinobu from the Monogatari series
Evangeline from Negima!
Komoe-sensei from the Toaru Series
Remon from Ano Natsu de Matteru
Athena from Campione!
Koneko from High School DxD
Ladylee from the Toaru Series
Chronoire from Witch Craft Works
Shiroyasha from Mondaiji
That's just ten off the top of my head. Are they fine since they're all over 18?
[–]skilliard4 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Taiga Aisaka from Toradora(18), Oka Chinami from Golden Time(college student, probably 18-22),
[–]AsamiWithPrep 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
NSFW links ahead... duh
I think the rationale is under the "encourage or promote" but that would mean something like /r/aa_cups would be banned, for promoting body types that look similar to underage girls. If it really is about age, we'll have to wait and see if /r/notloli gets banned, considering it claims an 18+ requirement.
Looking at it without trying to rationalize their ridiculous decisions, I'm guessing they'll just ban whatever looks bad to advertisers.
[–]templemount 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
I didn't even think to click on "involuntary pornography," of all things, but there it is. Thanks!
[–]KindaConfusedIGuess 32ポイント33ポイント34ポイント 10時間前 (3子コメント)
Minors which don't actually exist in real life and aren't illegal under US law.
[–]Mugilicious 56ポイント57ポイント58ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Why lie when your policies are written out just to prove you wrong? Is it just pure ignorance?
[–]mn920 49ポイント50ポイント51ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
I wasn't aware that animations were real lives that could be sexualized.
[–]boredasshitrightnow 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 9時間前* (5子コメント)
Better ban /r/anime some of their top posts were pictures of kids in a bathtub or are you going to go half measure
edit: no imnot against the sub itself, but the half measure is bothering me, there are ALOT of subs that do this and only one that has never been a problem and never even heard of gets the boot. Its abit annoying
[–]Shugbug1986 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間前 (4子コメント)
Kinda makes me wish we could be seen on r/all again... Gotta love every time an ecchi oriented post hits it and the entire site is like "Woah, what".
[–]boredasshitrightnow 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Do you really want me to dig up the bath post, there were fuckloads of people calling this out as pedophilia, it was being linked all over reddit etc I like using the sub but it still falls under quite heavily these new rule changes
[–]Shugbug1986 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (2子コメント)
What post did you think I was referring to? It was around that time the r/anime mods decided to stop their posts from hitting front page. Otherwise I'm sure todays ecchi post would have gotten a lot more attention.
[–]vocaloid_mayu 59ポイント60ポイント61ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
Laaaaaaaame. No minors are being sexualized. They're drawings.
[–]funkeepickle 76ポイント77ポイント78ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Except drawings aren't people. There are no minors being sexualized.
[–]KonnichiNya 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 9時間前 (1子コメント)
They're drawings you ignorant prick. There is nothing wrong with fictional depictions.
[–]PintSizedPinata 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
To all the survivors of the loli purge of 2015 I made a subreddit titled /r/NotLoli which should be rather self explanatory.
[–]ApplicableSongLyric 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 8時間前 (16子コメント)
As a victim of child pornography, by you placing drawings in the same category of my abuse, you have gravely insulted me.
Fuck you guys. I'm out. Done. Gone.
[–]SSmrao 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Fuck that other guy.
I'm sorry this happened to you.
As well, I am in immense appreciation of your understanding of the issue.
[–]genericname1231 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 10時間前 (11子コメント)
Are you going to ban /r/SexWithDogs?
/r/BDSMGW /r/BDSMcommunity /r/BDSMpersonals /r/BdsmNsfw /r/BDSMerotica
These are all evil and bad too
[–]Openworldgamer47 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 7時間前 (10子コメント)
I wouldn't say evil, the people in the videos are all for it, I don't even see a problem with those in fact. Of course the top one, I refuse to even type it, should be banned no question asked.
[–]genericname1231 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 6時間前 (8子コメント)
The drawings in /r/pomf were all for it too.
They were fucking drawings.
[–]Openworldgamer47 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 6時間前 (7子コメント)
Not sure what /r/pomf was or what you're getting at. If the people that uploaded it are ok with it then I seriously see no problem with it at all.
[–]genericname1231 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 6時間前 (6子コメント)
It was an offensive and evil and bad subreddit
Just like all the BDSM subreddits
But oddly enough
/r/CrackerTown and /r/KillWhitey aren't offensive and evil and bad
Funny that
/u/spez pay attention you fucking retard
I wouldn't say evil, the people in the videos are all for it, I don't even see a problem with those in fact.
I think he was being sarcastic
[–]CinemasTomCruise 36ポイント37ポイント38ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
Drawings aren't people. I don't think you're good at your job.
[–]PintSizedPinata 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Even with Ellen Pao gone Reddit keeps getting worse an worse. I knew the Ellen Pao hate brigade was aiming at the wrong problem.
[–]prodigyx 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
I think he meant to say that the advertisers don't like them, so they were banned.
[–]Shintao6 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Eh, I don't agree with your reasoning, but I'm not the boss here. I would have appreciated a little more heads up, this was never touched on that I could see during the Q/A a couple of weeks ago. Also, could have been listed more prominently in the Content Policy instead of being a side note tacked onto the 3rd sentence of a bullet point that wouldn't seem to apply to drawn images. But hey...now I know...
[–]MachoDagger 81ポイント82ポイント83ポイント 11時間前 (19子コメント)
They aren't real doe.
[–]Schrecklich 55ポイント56ポイント57ポイント 11時間前* (3子コメント)
It's a reddit rule, though. The ban is consistent with the rules, there's not much to be mad about here. Thinking the rule is stupid is a beast of its own, even though I'd agree that it is.
Edit: Upon reading reddit's content policy, I realize I'm actually wrong here. I couldn't find anything specifically referring to this. Downvote away, I shouldn't have posted without checking.
[–]Mugilicious 42ポイント43ポイント44ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
Good on you for checking your facts and making that edit
[–]Rils 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
Seriously, now I have to upvote him.
[–]Tera_GX 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
Downvote away
Upvoted
[–]angrypotato1 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Either are drawings
[–]Arcterion 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
>drawings
>minors
Are you completely fucking delusional?
[–]Nomnomvore 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 6時間前 (7子コメント)
Fictional characters have no age, your argument is ridiculous.
[–]TheCodexx 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
They're cartoons, not minors.
[–]smohq 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 8時間前* (4子コメント)
what about a shit ton of /r/rule34? are you telling me Misty from Pokemon is 18, or that you are applying this rule unfairly?
edit: in case its not clear, I am against the ban
[–]otarU 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
Rule34 has tons os underage cartoons.
Like Avatar, Ben10, Ed Eddy, Adventure Time, Pokemon, Gumball, Foster Mansion for Imaginary Friends, Kill La Kill, Harry Potter, Kimpossible, Bleach, Xmen, RWBY and I am just listing things I saw on the top submissions there.
Guess what, I guess people might get attracted to fictional characters, even if they might be underage. Rule34 shows that on the top voted posts.
[–]smohq 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
not bashing in any way, just pointing out the double standard. I am all for animated porn
[–]otarU 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
I know, I like animated porn too, it's just too dumb when people complain, people watch cartoons or characters from videogames or movies and get attached to them because they like the character.
So they might fall for them like in "love", it's not abnormal for that to happen.
A possible next step after falling for these characters is sexualization.
Remember Harry Potter and the Emma Watson "love" fever that took the internet? So many people saying everywhere that she was best girl / woman, I am pretty sure Emma Watson was underage during Harry Potter Movies.
Anyways all those things are fictional characters. And the Emma Watson example is to show the hypocrisy in what people say and do.
[–]ApplicableSongLyric 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
There's a mod over at /r/rule34 that's been kicking up shit over the other subs, saying their content is illegal, calling it child porn, ignoring and banning when people point out that his same standards apply to the same content on his board that he specifically allows.
[–]doctorstrange06 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 10時間前 (0子コメント)
pretty sure thats false.
[–]LevarOfBurton 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
No they don't. They're cartoons.
[–]hackisucker 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 9時間前 (5子コメント)
Is there a reason you are banning loli but not shota?
[–]SonicFrost 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 8時間前 (2子コメント)
They did, I believe. Though not /r/straightshota, as I've seen others point out.
[–]DarkLoad1 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4時間前 (0子コメント)
They'll probably have to figure out which subs are posting stuff. It takes a while to go down these rabbit holes.
[–]otarU 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (1子コメント)
they banned shota
[–]hackisucker 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
not /r/StraightShota
[–]MajorBeefCurtains 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
The timing is curious: https://archive.is/KIhpe
[–]IDe- 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Every nsfw anime/manga image subreddit "sexualizes minors" to an extent. What makes this case different?
[–]IstheLieReallyaCake 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Upvoted solely because we need to have the discussion seen.
Now please get off your high horse, listen to everyone else, and read this Cracked article, along with a person appeal I posted in another comment about.
[–]howdareyou 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
honestly i don't even know what loli is but i can imagine. is it much worse than sailor moon tho? cause that shit had tons of upskirt shots of minors.
[–]anarchism4thewin 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
This cannot be downvoted enough.
[–]gotenks1114 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Nature sexualizes minors.
[–]Yoshino- 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
A drawing is not a minor, just if you didn't know. Don't think for yourself and think about the community, whe never did nothing bad to reddit.
[–]DelAvaria 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
The reason why child porn is abhorrent is the exploitation that goes along with the creation of it. I don't think anyone disagrees with that.
This is about fictional characters where there is no exploitation going on.
Also, "minors" is a term used for someone who has not reached the age of consent. These are fictional characters.
What about subs that have small amounts of this type of content. I can think of several animes featured in r/anime that have portions of the animes featuring lewd behavior involving characters that have a stated age of 12-17 range. Is it no longer acceptable to link to those?
I just don't see the consistency here. Can we get an explanation?
[–]Arm-the-homeless 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前* (0子コメント)
I loathe sticking up for things that 'sexualize minors' but um... have you turned on a TV in the past 20 years or so? Read a book maybe? One of Stephen King's most famous books has a child orgy in it. It's fiction. Are you going to ban all discussion of "It" now? The Catcher in the Rye sexualizes minors too. Hey, why don't we have a book burning? Seems that's where we're headed.
What are you, the fucking thought police?
There's a big difference between a work of fiction and a picture of someone being abused. In order for one to happen, a person just needs to think it. In order for the other to happen, a child actually has to suffer abuse.
This is my biggest issue with all these changes. There's no consistency, no logic. It's all about placating advertisers. Subs are banned and content squelched not because it doesn't fit some sort of consistent policy, but because of the arbitrary whims of a few people who have decided they are paragons of virtue.
Coontown was banned despite being a prime candidate for quarantine, a sensible solution. Why? I don't give a shit if a bunch of racists want to sit around and hate the black man together, it doesn't affect me in any way. Let them sit in their echo chamber and be pathetic. Same goes for loli subs. If someone wants to have a subreddit where people draw pictures of little kids having sex, it's not hurting anyone. It's weird and gross and I'd never go in there, but there's no objective harm in it.
What is harmful is this lack of consistency. I'm telling you as a user of this site for many years (came over when Digg screwed itself up), I turned on uBlock when this started happening and I'm not turning it off until you guys pull your heads out of your collective asses. As soon as I see a reasonable exit strategy to a place that takes up the principles this site used to hold, I'm out. I'm definitely not the only one. One day, there will be a reckoning. I hope you all figure that out before it happens, it'd be a shame to see this site go the way of Digg, but I fear you're already committed and don't know how to put on the brakes.
Or maybe you just don't give a fuck.
[–]KommanderKrebs 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
I don't really want to stand up for Loli content, but the definition of Loli is a girl who may look underage, but are sometimes actually over 18. If anything, it would be better to compile a list of all subreddits that should be banned instead of slowly picking and choosing who to ban. It would definitely seem less like people believe, which is that you are picking and choosing, even though you aren't.
[–]jdw101 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
I think the reality is you will ban anything that you don't like and what you don't like is subject to change. I don't like 50 percent of the subs on reddit. Makes me wonder what you will ban in the future and at some point you won't be able to keep subs that are pro competitor of a sponsor and such. I am not blaming you, the model for a business like this is a failure, it always has been.
[–]DarkLoad1 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (1子コメント)
Okay, for real, this is an argument for drawings of small children having sex. What is wrong with you, goddammit.
[–]RockyBalMoa 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
They're not even minors. Drawings have no age.
[–]carmasays 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 11時間前 (3子コメント)
What about /r/todcon?
[–]pizzabash 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 10時間前 (1子コメント)
BAHAHA they shut down the perfectly legal subreddits featuring albeit young and preteen girls/boys and miss the one that does the same with toddlers god damn it reddit your falling to pieces.
They banned the most popular ones. The problem is that autistic neckbeards on /r/lolicons kept spamming links to the subreddit everywhere with no warning thinking everyone likes the same things as them.
I'm a lolicon myself, but FFS guys stop trying to promote that shit. Not everyone likes your fucked up shit. If you wanna link someone you know would be interested, go ahead with a warning, but stop throwing around links casually like it's something everyone would enjoy...
[–]PintSizedPinata 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9時間前 (0子コメント)
SHHHH you're gonna get it banned too.
[–]Nemouik 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
"We're banning behavior not content"
[–]sfacets 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Can cartoon characters be minors?
I can't believe that people are actually arguing for this. Guys, if it looks like child pornography and quacks like child pornography, it's child pornography. Just because it is allowed by law in the US does not mean anyone has to allow it on their private site. It is so simple to not argue for pedophilia, guys.
[–]skilliard4 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
The idea is that because its not real, it doesn't cause any harm like real CP does. Saying that drawings are the same thing as real victims that had their abuse recorded is insulting to the victims.
Surely /r/picsofdeadkids(NSFL,NSFW) which posts pictures of real children that get murdered/tortured is much worse than some offensive, but fictional 2d drawings, right?
[–]imCIK 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間前 (0子コメント)
Maybe these should be the times you listen to the users, the amount of up\downvotes should give you a good idea about what the community wants. Unless there are other reasons not being told.
[–]MeinKampfyChair 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Just be truthful and say you're playing morality police in the name of monetization, because there's no legal reason to ban any of the subs that went today
[–]ChaosRulesForever 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 7時間前 (0子コメント)
Well, I guess the drawings hadn't aged 18 years yet.
Technically you are correct.
[–]lachalupacabrita 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Friendly reminder to reddit that downvote doesn't mean "disagree". His comment is an answer relevant to the conversation...
[–]nomad2020 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間前 (0子コメント)
Was this policy in place before or after that one article by that one site that embarrassed the hell out of Reddit?
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[–]A_Single_AID -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 10時間前 (2子コメント)
I'd love to join, but it says "invite only". This is a bad time to be invite-only... tons of us will be jumping ship, or at least trying to.
[–]ergzay 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
No they fucking don't. There are NO minors present in that sub. Seriously fuck off.
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