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TIL Robert Hansen, a serial killer who was active in the early 1980s, would kidnap women and release them in Alaska’s Knik River Valley. He would then hunt them, armed with a knife and a Ruger Mini-14 rifle. (en.wikipedia.org)

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[–]JTsyo2 547ポイント548ポイント  (114子コメント)

Wow give that agent a raise. Those profilers know what they are doing I guess.

He contacted Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent Roy Hazelwood and requested help with a criminal psychological profile, based on the three recovered bodies. Hazelwood thought that the killer would be an experienced hunter with low self-esteem, have a history of being rejected by women and would feel compelled to keep "souvenirs" of his murders, such as a victim's jewelry. He also suggested that the assailant might stutter. Using this profile, Flothe investigated possible suspects until he reached Hansen, who fit the profile and owned a plane.

[–]PeopleEatingPeople 145ポイント146ポイント  (16子コメント)

All I want to know about is the stutter? My guess is that it contributed to the low self-esteem, but it seems so specific.

[–]clockworkbox 102ポイント103ポイント  (12子コメント)

Maybe some of the women went missing in front of a speech therapy clinic? Seriously though, I'm interested in how he figured that out as well!

[–]Urbanscuba 105ポイント106ポイント  (10子コメント)

It's something that's dramatically over-represented among serial killers. I'm not qualified to speak on why but I would assume the psychological trauma/issues that make someone kill also predispose them to stutter.

[–]Russell_is_kool 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe that if it is implied that the attacker avoids talking to his victims by using ambush-like attacks, a stutter is likely because the attacker is unable to talk to the victim or lure them anywhere.

[–]TheAbsurdityOfItAll 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes a serial suspect is unknown (obviously) but his methods are known. Such as: pretends to be broken down on the road, or breaks in thru kitchen window. When the abduction method minimizes talking (ie: grabbing from behind, communicating via email only), this increases the odds that the killer is dealing with a stutter which would otherwise screw up his plan. So he formulates a method of "taking" that reduces talking at all.

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    [–]BrckT0p 64ポイント65ポイント  (16子コメント)

    In the TV show Criminal Minds they use this profile almost verbatim (if I'm remembering correctly) and everyone is shocked when the stuttering part ends up being true. Now I'm really curious as to why he profiled a stutter. It seemed made up and far fetched in the show.

    [–]acunningusername 54ポイント55ポイント  (5子コメント)

    "The Footpath Killer". Gideon accidentally stumbles on him at a gas station. It's part of the plot that no one can work out how Gideon knew he would have a stutter.

    [–]Lurker_IV 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Not quite. They knew he would have a stutter because his attacks suggested he had a lack of social skills and social confidence. The running question is how Gideon knew WHY he stuttered.

    It was a trick though because no one knows what causes people to stutter.

    I finished watching the series last month so its fresh in my memory.

    [–]bcmonke [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Not quite. They knew he would have a stutter because his attacks suggested he had a lack of social skills and social confidence.

    Could have just as easily had adhd if that's what they based it off of.

    [–]HmmmQuite 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Man I love those first two seasons

    [–]MichaelKaym 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The first two seasons were about actual profiling. The rest of the show became just torture porn for sadists.

    [–]cpcksndwch 30ポイント31ポイント  (9子コメント)

    I took a class in college taught by a criminal profiler. Things like a speech impediment are added to the profile when there is evidence that the person avoids social interactions like conversations.

    But I don't know if that was his idea or something used by all profilers.

    [–]mayjay15 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Why a speech impediment and not some other readily apparent stigma like a facial deformity?

    [–]etibbs 21ポイント22ポイント  (7子コメント)

    People with speech impediments get very self conscious whenever they are asked to repeat something or the other person can't understand them. After a while they tend to actively avoid conversation. Source, used to have a speech impediment and got it fixed.

    [–]alizardbreath 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

    At what age did you get yours fixed? I have this problem. I can't pronounce my R's, they come out as W's. I had speech therapy up until high school. I'm 19 and still have the speech impediment. I feel like I'm too old to fix it.

    [–]KingFarOut 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

    you can try to fix it yourself. Just record yourself over and over until it sounds right.

    Your mind is correcting it. If you can get your head to figure out its wrong, and find a way to say it right; Then with a little practice you can improve dramatically.

    [–]IrreleventCockStain 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

    And if that doesn't work, just murder all the people everywhere.

    edit: Jesus that was a joke, hello I was joking.

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      [–]urbanwarrior 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Read "Mindhunter." It's an autobiography on the FBI agent who basically began criminal profiling for serial killers. Very interesting read. He explains both the method of forming a profile and several cases, including the one linked by OP.

      [–]Lotronex 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      "The Evil That Men Do" is also worth a read, its co-authored by Roy Hazlewood, the FBI profiler from OP's article.

      [–]jesus_h_garcia 265ポイント266ポイント  (69子コメント)

      Profiling works. We should try it out at the airport instead of making kids take off their shoes

      [–]Meat_Popsicles 137ポイント138ポイント  (42子コメント)

      Take this for whatever you wish, but I had a criminology professor years ago that stated criminal profilers have a terrible reputation amongst those that study crime academically. At best, their conclusions are the same as any experienced detective.

      [–]TheNovelNovelty 473ポイント474ポイント  (28子コメント)

      I have found that professors tend to look down on people that apply their expertise outside of academics no matter the field of study.

      [–]aDAMNPATRIOT 53ポイント54ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Ouch

      [–]Skudworth 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah, wow.

      But come to think of it... that sums up my experience with professors pretty well.

      [–]KronktheKronk 29ポイント30ポイント  (14子コメント)

      Anyone who has watched more than a couple episodes of Criminal Minds could come up with that profile, save the stuttering.

      [–]Omega357 29ポイント30ポイント  (11子コメント)

      Bullshit. Reading Sherlock doesn't make you Sherlock and Criminal Minds is just a new form of Sherlock.

      [–]KronktheKronk 41ポイント42ポイント  (10子コメント)

      The difference being that Sherlock was an investigatory and forensics genius with an incredible eye for detail and profiling is about as generic as you can get. You can literally watch a couple seasons of criminal minds and come up with everything that guy came up with:

      • low self-esteem - he lured a hooker into his trap by offering to pay her, he is taking high risk victims, he obviously doesn't have the charisma/self-esteem to lure women with a more social ruse (classic criminal minds)
      • a history of being rejected by women - What does this even mean and how is it useful whatsoever in finding the guy? Lots of dudes have histories of being rejected by women. If he can assume he doesn't have the social skills to lure women then we can assume he doesn't have much luck with people. The dude had actually been married for a few years so this one is hard to even use to find the guy.
      • would feel compelled to keep "souvenirs" - Serial killers often keep mementos of their murders so they can relive them (classic criminal minds)
      • He might have a stutter - Might? There was a previous victim for the profiler to talk to, wtf do you mean "might?" Ask her, she'll tell you.

      Literally every anti-social serial killer in criminal minds falls into all those categories. Add "A white adult male in his 30s to 40s" and "he probably works a solitary job" or "can't hold down a job where he has to work with people or has responsibilities" and you'll still have a complete profile of the guy.

      The BAU isn't real anymore because it's a lot like reading palms. Hell, even in the show the BAU finds their bad guys through solid police work, they almost never need the actual profiles.

      [–]Enthused_Llama 27ポイント28ポイント  (8子コメント)

      Aren't you constructing it with information available after the fact?

      [–]KronktheKronk 14ポイント15ポイント  (7子コメント)

      No, in the article there was a woman (hooker, I'd wager) who escaped the serial killer and went and gave police his description and information that she'd left her shoes in his truck.

      That happened before the investigator asked for the help of a profiler.

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          [–]Rodents210 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

          To be fair, the government has done studies saying that profiling is ineffective, and they basically only keep it going because of the public perception that it works, which is helped by shows like Criminal Minds.

          [–]6of1halfdozenofother [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          Most "specialist" investigation techniques are complete bullshit. Always have been.

          Profiling, bullet composition, lie detection, etc.

          [–]kogasapls 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          He's right though. Criminal profilers are notoriously inaccurate.

          [–]Tounge_hair [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          This is so true in so many cases. Academia is full of these pompous assholes who think they know better than people that actually do things instead of talking about doing things. In my experience getting my undergrad and master's degree, I learned that the absolute best professors were the ones who actually had a career and taught in the side. The could actually apply what they were saying to real experience instead of pretending to know because they read it somewhere.

          [–]ZapPowerz 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Its called "inferiority complex"

          [–]kotori_mkii 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I think it's called jealousy.

          [–]Miguelito-Loveless 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          A lot of people that do consulting and give testimony for hire in the court room make shit up to get paid.

          It was just a couple days ago that an article on an "expert" in police shootings made the front page. The gist of the article was that he used his pseudo science to testify in about 200 cases in which cops shot unarmed people. In 100% of the cases his science found that the police officer was in the right and should have shot the unarmed person. Note that he even testified this way when the unarmed person was shot only in the back.

          I am not saying that everyone who leaves academia for consulting is crap. In fact, many people who do consulting (or are professional witness) are good at what they do. Most academics, including me, approve of Elizabeth Loftus' expert testimony. But the science is clearly against quite a few forensic quacks out there.

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              [–]3AlarmLampscooter 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

              Until hijackers learn about beta blockers

              Edit: And TSA already does behavioral profiling, apparently not very well

              [–]sweet_n_salty 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Not sure I'd count TSA workers as expert psych profilers.

              [–]3AlarmLampscooter 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Not sure I'd count expert psych profilers as expert psych profilers either. You never hear about the cases they absolutely fail on, when in fact they could just be observing demographic trends in previous offenders.

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                [–]karma-armageddon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Because you can tell if someone is a terrist by which shoe they take off first.

                [–]sandsofthyme 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

                Here's the thing: terrorists can easily overcome the most common things you would guess to look for by simply choosing an agent that defies your expectation.

                [–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                That is why you profile behaviors not races. A guy that looks nervous or is sweating for no reason is a better bet than a random brown guy.

                [–]jesus_h_garcia 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

                If they could actually do that they would have already

                [–]Tall_LA_Bull 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You mean like 9/11?

                [–]sandsofthyme 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                They do indeed do that already ... So do smugglers, traffickers, and most people trying to fool security.

                In the US most terrorism is domestic and committed by stereotypically white people. Even foreign terrorists could easily lass as white.

                [–]mayjay15 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Don't drug distributors do it all the time? It seems a lot of cases of terrorism in this country fit that "defying expectation" thing too, being that many of them seem to come unexpectedly from people everyone was sure would never do such a thing.

                [–]lolpubs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I don't really see what justifies this assumption. Clearly they're not capable of doing much and our security culture is a waste of time, but I still don't accept your premise. They could be developing this tactic now; it would obviously take a long while to get white Americans brainwashed enough for bombing planes.

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                  [–]GogglesPisano 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  This implies that the terrorists in question have at their disposal a wide variety of people of different ages, ethnicities and genders who are willing to perform violent acts for their cause. This doesn't sound plausible: it seems likely that the great majority of people drawn to (for example) an Islamic fundamentalist or white supremacist terror group are fairly homogeneous - that's pretty much the point.

                  [–]sandsofthyme 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Really? White women have been part in both Muslim terrorist groups and white racist extremist groups.

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                    [–]ribald86 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Shouldn't we be against profiling? It leads to generalizations.

                    [–]I_love_hate_reddit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Kids don't have to take their shoes off in the airport.

                    [–]Miguelito-Loveless 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I am not sure how useful profiling really is...

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                      [–]RugerRedhawk1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      But what of the profile actually matched the killer? I feel like there is more to this paragraph and I'm just left hanging!

                      edit: ok details in the actual wikipedia page, not sure why OP linked to what he did.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hansen

                      [–]Melodicloud 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Sounds like a nice guy(tm)

                      [–]Bustywestboob 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Roy Hazelwood is actually one of the pioneers or sexual predator profiling. Read about some of his work and discoveries in the field its actually really interesting. He was one the first to distinguish between different types of rapists.

                      [–]eatcakenotbake 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. We don't hear about the misses.

                      Profiling is barely above superstition and palm reading at the moment. Don't believe the hype.

                      [–]Xabster 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Depends in which way the clock is broken

                      [–]Miguelito-Loveless 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      1) Experienced hunter. That could be deduced from the evidence rather easily.

                      2) Low self-esteem. Self-esteem is a crappy psychological construct. You can label a person who claims that they are awesome as having low self-esteem (they have a superiority complex to compensate for their low self-esteem) or you can label a person who claims that they are a loser as having low self-esteem (because, they admit it). Unless you give someone a questionnaire to fill out, you don't necessarily have any way to diagnose who does or doesn't have low self-esteem. Not sure this diagnostic criteria would be of any help finding a killer. Though, after the fact, it could be used to make the profiler sound like a genius.

                      3) History of being rejected by women. I have been rejected by a few women in my day. Probably 90% of men have. This is worthless as a diagnostic criterion. But, after the fact, the profiler can point to this and say, "I told you so!"

                      4) Keep souvenirs. This might be good profiling work OR it might mean the profiler watched a lot of movies, simply knew that X% of serial killers kept souvenirs, or knew that some of the corpses were missing jewelry that they normally wear.

                      5) Stutter. Well, that is either some profiling badassery, OR as /u/Urbanscuba claims it is common among serial killers.

                      If /u/Urbanscuba correct, then all our profiler did is make obvious deductions from the corpses (1 & 4) and guess that the serial killer had some qualities common to most serial killers (3 & 5). 2 seems to stupid to even mention, but I guess that could be lumped with "qualities common to most serial killers".

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                        [–]thehonestyfish4 427ポイント428ポイント  (66子コメント)

                        I'm really disappointed that he died in prison, and not from being mauled by a grizzly during one of his "hunts."

                        [–]armdrag2youback 370ポイント371ポイント  (48子コメント)

                        Nah a women he was hunting ambushing him and killing him would be 1000x better, the hunted becomes the hunter

                        [–]thehonestyfish4 139ポイント140ポイント  (14子コメント)

                        What if the bear and the woman were in cahoots?

                        [–]saltnotsugar 104ポイント105ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        Woman rides bear and kills serial killer after finishing 3rd in the county hotdog eating contest.

                        [–]NedimHusic 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        Sexist - as if a woman can't finish second

                        [–]imanAholebutimfunny 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        i like this ending the best

                        [–]renegadegrey 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Here is some information you might like to know from my experience playing paintball for nearly 20 years.

                        Hunters suck at paintball. They think killing defenseless animals translates into an equal ground fight somehow and they pay dearly for this mentality.

                        [–]the-beard-abides 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        From there, to here. From here! To there! All black and brown and covered in hair! He smelled that girl on the summer air! The bear! The bear! The maiden fair!

                        Oh, I'm a maid, and I'm pure and fair! I'll never dance with a hairy bear! I called a knight, but you're a bear! All black and brown and covered in hair!

                        He lifted her high in the air! He sniffed and roared and he smelled her there! She kicked and wailed, the maid so fair! He licked the honey all up in her hair!

                        From there to here. From here! To there! All black and brown and covered in hair! He smelled that girl on the summer air! The bear! The bear! The maiden fair!

                        And the bear, the bear! The maiden fair! And the bear, the bear!

                        She sighed and she squealed and she kicked the air! Then she sang: My bear! My bear so fair! And off they went into the summer air! The bear, the bear, And the maiden fair!

                        From there to here. From here! To there! All black and brown and covered in hair! He smelled that girl on the summer air! The bear! The bear! The maiden fair!

                        And the bear, the bear! The maiden fair! And the bear, the bear! The maiden fair! And the bear, the bear!

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                          [–]rob-e_tha_robot 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Truly the most dangerous game.

                          [–]TheDocWhovian 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You would like Dollhouse.

                          [–]Creabhain 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Like the movie Final Girl.

                          [–]ZapPowerz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          That is why he didn't hunt men.

                          [–]CAT_JESUS 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You would like The Most Dangerous Game by Richard Connell

                          [–]TenNeon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Clever girl!

                          [–]boomtownbuzz 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          This should be the plot of an all-female Expendables movie, should they ever do one. Rich dude does this for sport, and then is hunted down the same way.

                          [–]CakeisaDie 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          They already have a criminal minds episode of it.

                          similar would be doll house episode.

                          [–]Sciaphobia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          That criminal minds episode was the first thing I thought of as well. It was one of their more memorable ones.

                          [–]makethatnoise 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I would watch this movie.

                          [–]PreheatedDutchOven 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Clever girl

                          [–]shadmere 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

                          Man, Death Proof was a good movie.

                          [–]OrangeSail 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Die Hard the Hunter.

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                            [–]3AlarmLampscooter 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Well technically he died in a hospital...

                            Hansen died at the age of 75, at Alaska Regional Hospital in Anchorage on August 21, 2014, due to undisclosed, lingering health conditions.[7]

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Hansen#Death

                            [–]BertitoMio 15ポイント16ポイント  (10子コメント)

                            Then she takes over and starts kidnapping men and hunting them?

                            [–]Anathema_Redditus 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            Sounds like we have ourselves a movie!

                            [–]The-Wandering-Hylotl 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

                            Or a novel!

                            [–]Anathema_Redditus 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            Maybe it could take place on a remote jungle island...

                            [–]FacebookUser01 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Yeah like a little narrative, a short story if you will

                            [–]Anathema_Redditus 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Hmm... I think we have a story here! What should we name it?

                            [–]Velpar 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I came up with the name "The Most Dangerous Game" a long time ago, but I haven't been able to put a story to the name. It would work, right?

                            [–]Alcopaulics 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Billy and the Clone-asaurus

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                              [–]CoelhoAssassino666 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              So kind of like the ending to texas chainsaw massacre 2, sure it was implied instead of shown though.

                              [–]blargg6969 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              There's a criminal minds episode exactly like this

                              [–]prettyfly4aRyguy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              Bear eats man. Woman inherits the earth.

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                                [–]interreddit 132ポイント133ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                Nicolas Cage is in a movie about this:

                                http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2005374/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_16

                                Not a bad flic - and I am not a Cage fanatic.

                                [–]progress_dad 47ポイント48ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                Also a Supernatural episode. "the Benders"

                                They're so freaked out when it's not a supernatural creature.

                                [–]nutellatime 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                I'm on mobile so I can't link it, but that Supernatural episode is actually inspired by a family called the Bloody Benders who lured people to stay in their bed and breakfast and then killed them for thrill.

                                [–]progress_dad 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                Really?! That's fantastic.

                                I miss good ol seasons 1 and 2 when it was all folklore and a true horror show every week. I haven't watched since season 7 or 8 but the biblical storyline dominating the episodes got boring quickly.

                                [–]Rodents210 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                Really went downhill for these reasons IMO:

                                1. Original arc ended, Kripke left, everyone remaining was left directionless.
                                2. Abandoned "Adventure Towns" format to focus on drawn out season-long arcs, which lead to modern episodes anywhere close to the original spirit of the show being labeled "filler."
                                3. Abandoned policy that every creature introduced would be inspired by actual folklore and myth; instead started making up their own creatures with no resemblance to the creature whose name they used, or in some cases just gave them a name that was just a common word in a foreign language.
                                4. Threw out the "ooooh this could be real" premise in season 6, instead explicitly depicting that the show takes place in an alternate universe where monsters are real and that there are no monsters in the real world. Ironically in the same episode they killed off Kripke, which is what the entire season did symbolically.

                                [–]NippleMilk97 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                You should review shows for a living

                                [–]Unprovoked_Rage 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                The trickster episodes were my favorites

                                [–]mloofburrow 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Yeah, but then they made the trickster an angel and then it wasn't nearly as interesting...

                                [–]NippleMilk97 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Love the first two seasons as well, then the English characters with the bad accents. Why Kripke!?

                                [–]rogerrrr 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I think there was a Dollhouse episode as well. Not sure which one, but I believe it was near the beginning.

                                [–]CAT_JESUS 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                It's loosely based off of The Most Dangerous Game by Richard Connell.

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                                  [–]Nope-Nopers 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                  On Netflix, good movie.

                                  [–]BeamRifle 26ポイント27ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                  Also on Amazon Prime for the 5 of us without netflix.

                                  [–]Arctorkovich 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                  Or the 25 million of us outside of the US for whom it's not on netflix.

                                  [–]eatthepinky 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                  It can be on netflix for you very easily.

                                  [–]Arctorkovich 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                  I had mediahint (the free old version) for firefox but it stopped working. Too lazy to look for alternatives or pay extra for vpn and with a 250MB/s connection torrents are extremely practical and low effort.

                                  Thinking about just canceling netflix to save some money, I've exhausted the library from my country anyway so what the point right?

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                                    [–]e9one 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Also in netflix is FBI Files. One of the episodes is about this Alaskan guy

                                    [–]micasa_enlaplaya 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Excellent movie. I've watched it four times now. Once by myself, and three others because I wanted other people to watch it too.

                                    [–]LargeLeech 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    John Cusack was really good in it. Certainly made the movie feel a lot less Cage-ey.

                                    [–]420ish 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Watching John Cusack play a legitimate bad guy is always interesting.

                                    [–]BigBacq 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I thought it was a pretty good movie. Cage reined in his crazy to play the cop.

                                    [–]EasternEuropeSlave 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    r/onetruegod

                                    [–]totes-muh-gotes 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I met John Cusack and Vanessa Hudgens when they were in town filming. Nice folks, understandably unimpressed with Anchorage.

                                    [–]Slashlight 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    From my understanding, it wasn't shown in Anchorage theaters here in Alaska. It doesn't exactly paint the APD in a positive light.

                                    [–]rimagana 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    There was a Dollhouse episode too

                                    [–]PaperDesk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    I was hoping for the Wicker Man, was disappointed.

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                                      [–]nycstocks 41ポイント42ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                      That Cage and Cusack movie about this is pretty decent. Probably the only good thing Cage has done in the past few years

                                      [–]RandomDeception 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                      I agree, but have you seen "Joe"?

                                      [–]Jolly_Hyena 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      I don't know if he has, but have you seen The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans?

                                      [–]narcolepsyinc 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      I haven't. Is it good?

                                      [–]RandomDeception 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      Definitely my favourite performance by Cage from the past decade.

                                      [–]SigSour40 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      I generally avoid anything with Cage in it like the plague, but yeah Joe was actually pretty good.

                                      [–]dakta 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      What about The Weatherman? That's an excellent movie starring Cage. Ebert gave it full marks.

                                      [–]nycstocks 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      Have yet to see it. Thanks for the recommendation. Ebert completely destroyed National Treasure in his review and I think that movie is harmless fun, although terrible.

                                      [–]plethora003 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Movie for interested:

                                      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2005374/

                                      "Frozen Ground"

                                      [–]givemeadamnname69 74ポイント75ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      Are we sure his name wasn't Ramsey Snow/Bolton?

                                      [–]SJCrusader 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      "If you make it out of the woods, you win!!"

                                      [–]KingButterbumps 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      Bolton, not Snow! You must never call him that!

                                      [–]LBJSmellsNice 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      Not Bolton! Reek!

                                      [–]MechanicalTurkish 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Rhymes with meek.

                                      [–]th3greg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Where are all the reek mill memes at?

                                      [–]Lutheritus1 30ポイント31ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                      Reminds me of the Ice T classic "Surviving the Game" it also had Gary Busey in it, you can probably tell how the movie was already.

                                      [–]Nocturnalized4 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Awesome?

                                      [–]Iamthesmartest 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Always remember to check the barrel.

                                      [–]IronMan2020 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      It had Dr. Cox too!

                                      [–]BobSacramanto 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      There was also a Jean Claude Van Damm flick with the same premise (I believe set in Louisiana).

                                      It had a gun that shot arrows.

                                      [–]MechaClown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      BUUURRRRRNNNNSSSS!!!!

                                      [–]JeremyHillaryBoobPhD 32ポイント33ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      It's like the Most Dangerous Game, but in real life.

                                      [–]holysocks 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      or The Pest

                                      [–]JackJPollock 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Well the link does redirect you to the " real-life parrelels" section of the "The Most Dangerous Game" wikipedia page

                                      [–]JeremyHillaryBoobPhD 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Wait, people read the articles on this sub?

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                                        [–]fivefurtrees 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Shoulder to the wheel, Echo.

                                        [–]GreatWhiteNarwhal 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        He also used to walk my Grandma home from work every evening. She worked at a bar and he would just kinda wait around and escort her home, to keep the creeps away. And that, Alanis, is ironic.

                                        [–]quincess 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        What did grandma think of her gentleman bodyguard being a serial killer? That's almost insulting that he didn't like her enough to hunt. Almost.

                                        [–]zwilde 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        My teacher used to live down the road and would buy hunting traps from him. He was a spooky legend in anchorage. Apparently he owned a bakery that still is there today, I can't remember what it was called.

                                        [–]pfelon 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        And they say romance is dead.

                                        [–]Rhodie114 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Well yea, he flew romance out into the Alaskan wilderness and hunts it down with a knife

                                        [–]Acidsparx 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        I've watched a softcore porno with this exact plot.

                                        edit* wasn't a softcore porno. it was just a terrible movie. Naked Fear.

                                        [–]john_stuart_kill 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Weird that nothing about these details appears in his own Wikipedia entry...

                                        [–]repeat- 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Paintball was inspired by this.

                                        Huh.

                                        [–]Wm_TheConqueror 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                        No hunting like the hunting of man.

                                        [–]The_Prince1513 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        Not to be confused with Robert Hanssen who was an FBI agent who spied on the US for the USSR and Russia for 22 years.

                                        Fun Fact, depending on how you look at it, Hanssen actually got a longer sentence than Hansen without killing anyone.

                                        [–]ItsLSD 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                        guys Tryna be General Zaroff

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                                        [–]N6Maladroit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        One of my favorite stories I've read a few times throughout English Lit classes.

                                        [–]RICHB0YWINST0N 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                        He must have killed them with the knife, mini-14s can't hit shit with their wacky-inflatable-tubeman-barrels

                                        [–]wolfpackalpha 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                        There was an episode similar to this (hell, might've been based off of this) in Criminal Minds. It was a guy and his son though who would do it in the episode

                                        [–]phraps 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        I thought it was two brothers?

                                        [–]wolfpackalpha 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Oh maybe. I haven't seen the episode in a while

                                        [–]greenhamster 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Yes it was in 2007 and the episode was called "open season"

                                        [–]AnalAvengers69 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Gotta love father and son bonding time.

                                        [–]redsox113 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        I don't know if it's is where you saw this info, but Rob Dyke's channel on youtube had a good summary on this guy, and lots of info about other serial killers. It's a good watch if you're into that sort of thing. Here's the link to his channel.

                                        [–]mikepc143 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        The movie Frozen Ground is about him

                                        [–]Nrack2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        This is really interesting. In Zodiac, the supposed zodiac killer mentions "The Most Dangerous Game" short story, which is the thumbnail.

                                        [–]wrestlingfan007 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                        The movie with Cusack and Cage is really shitty and terrible when you consider how fucking amazingly ball smashing great they were in Fucking Con Fucking Air.

                                        [–]Made_in_Murica 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        He went by the pseudonym Ramsay Bolton

                                        [–]SteveZ1ssou 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Would be nice if you linked to his actual Wikipedia page, not some fucking book kinda like it.

                                        [–]BrightShadowHunt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Sounds kind of like a novel called Death watch.

                                        [–]e9one 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        FBI Files on netflix has an episode on this guy.

                                        [–]avs72 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        I am curious, did he ever kidnap women who had wilderness skills and would actually be able to fight back? Were the women similarly armed?

                                        [–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        That would be a trope reversal and wouldn't become popular until around 2002 or so.

                                        [–]MeoowDude 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Is this where the movie "Surviving the Game" came from?

                                        [–]berthejew 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Michael Prescott wrote a book titled, "In Dark Places" based off Robert Hanson. His dark character hunts the main ones, giving them a knife and he having a rifle.

                                        [–]ineedyourskulls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        There's an old black and white horror movie that is similar to this. Can't remember the title, but it's essentially the same plot.

                                        [–]deepsoulfunk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        It seems like a lot of the more dramatic serial killings end up having a sexual connection. That's so much work just to effectively j/o, it's kind of mind boggling.

                                        [–]Slaytounge 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Must have inspired Gerald Tarrant from The Coldfire Trilogy, at least his hunting of women in the woods part.

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