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[–]PeBeFri 73ポイント74ポイント75ポイント 20日前* (183子コメント)
Similar to NSFW, another type of content that is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it, is the content that violates a common sense of decency.
And whose code of decency would be the basis for this new classification?
I have enjoyed this website for many years now. It has been superb as a collection of communities where news, ideas, and interesting new things on the Internet can be shared. And its success is owed largely to its reputation as a space where free expression can thrive.
But the structural integrity of Reddit is under threat. It has been for many years. And it's not from those who engage in hate speech. It's from another community of Redditors, one which simultaneously denounces and profits from the site's hands-off policy towards its users. Their most problematic community is /r/shitredditsays, and they are unofficially known as social justice warriors.
Here is my stance on this latest Reddit controversy in a nutshell:
I would rather use a website populated by racists and bigots than by social justice warriors.
Say what you will about those who frequent the hate subreddits. At least they only want their voice to be heard, even though what they say may be unpalatable. By contrast, social justice warriors aim to suppress the voice of others. Only one of these groups pose a threat to a free and open marketplace of ideas.
It is understandable that you would wish to restrict hate speech, either for moral reasons or to placate potential advertisers. But long before you ever discussed the censorship of hate speech on your site, you strongly opposed the actions of vote manipulation, of which there is substantial evidence of guilt by SRS.
Here is my suggestion for you, to avoid hypocrisy:
If you censor the hate subreddits, you must censor /r/shitredditsays as well.
If you do not comply, I will cease my regular activity here, migrating my presence to Voat and other competitors that may arise. I will not purchase Reddit Gold, for myself or anyone else. And I will use ad-blocking software when visiting your site.
I have no moral qualms about this. Reddit may no longer call itself a "bastion of free speech," but it still advertises itself as a place where one can make their voice heard without being subjected to downvote brigades, and would be given equal footing with the censorious. If you shut down subreddits for their ideas and not others for their behavior, you would be guilty of false advertising.
Edit: I take it back. Replace
with
I would rather use a website populated by racists and bigots than by people who push to censor content with which they disagree.
I only wrote it as such the first time because it often seems the two groups of people are one and the same, at least on Reddit.
[–]supersuicidal 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
OH NO WELL THAT'S IT GUYS
ADMINS TRIED, BUT ONE BRAVE USER'S POWERPLAY SAVED THE DAY
[–]backintheussr1 48ポイント49ポイント50ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[–]RhinestoneTaco 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
I don't think you fully understand the magnitude of what he's saying. He's GOING TO USE ADBLOCKER.
[+]PeBeFri スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
I know, I know, it's the principle of the thing and all that...
[–]IBYMBYBMYL 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 19日前* (0子コメント)
I would rather use a website populated by racists and bigots than by skeleton warriors.
Have fun with reddit then friendo.
[–]Lionstrong 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 20日前 (5子コメント)
Voat has a cute goat, not too many people, and the community actually isn't toxic. (even though everyone wants the narrative to be that it is)
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[–]Lionstrong 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
And Voat will nuke it. I'm not worried. Don't mess with the goat!
[–]CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
That never happened.
You people are idiots.
[–]CapitalJusticeWarior -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
> That never happened.
I am not so sure about PLANTING childporn, but 8chan was ddos'ed multiple days in a row, and a bunch of news sites accused them of hosting childporn and 8chan had to change hosts. I saw a bunch of news sites where they had blurred out pictures and they were like "look at all this child porn that I found over at 8chan but I conveniently blurred it out so that you wouldn't have to look at it (btw that required that I download it and stare at it while photoshopping it, but don't worry, child pornography laws are only for pedophiles!)" and really it was just pictures of little girls in swimsuits or provocative clothing, which may be morally repugnant to people considering the context, but it was still completely legal.
> You people are idiots.
Projection?
[–]X-edOut -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
Hahaha, nice try. You guys have said this bullshit so many times I think some of you actually believe it. Proof or GTFO.
[–]hatredsplurge 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 16日前 (0子コメント)
I would rather use a website populated by racists and bigots than by social justice warriors. Say what you will about those who frequent the hate subreddits. At least they only want their voice to be heard, even though what they say may be unpalatable. By contrast, social justice warriors aim to suppress the voice of others. Only one of these groups pose a threat to a free and open marketplace of ideas.
HAHHAHHAHAHA
as if one of the biggest "anti-sjw movements" (if you can call gamergate that) hasn't threatened women and other progressives with death and rape threats to the point they are afraid to sleep in their own house because of what they say. Don't act like sexist bigots don't try to censor feminists every single possible way they can
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[–]willfe42 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
No point trying to fix this place, then, eh?
[–]TheFatMistake -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
I'm a fan of Snapzu, but mainly because I'm not looking for a reddit clone and am still fine with reddit.
[–]Xaguta 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 20日前 (41子コメント)
Does anyone have any proof /r/shitredditsays actually impedes free speech?
[–]p_velocity 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 19日前 (13子コメント)
honestly the anti-srs circlejerk is ridiculous. They are no more passionate about their interests than the folks over at /r/startrek or /r/theredpill or/r/fishing for that matter. The fact that they are the most hated group on reddit when 95% of what they do is call assholes out on the ignorance just shows what a cesspool reddit can be.
[–]antiraysister 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 19日前* (11子コメント)
I discovered srs during the Trayvon Martin affair( then especially, Ferguson) . I was dismayed by a lot of the comments I had seen in the news subs and literally had to Google reddit racism, to see if I wasn't the only one who was disgusted. There I stumbled upon SRS. So in my mind, SRS is one of the only large subs that doesn't engage in...that nastiness.
People can give all the shitty reasons they want for hating SRS. I will maintain that they are definitely the good guys in this whole story. Fuck you for being 'offended' by my being offended by your disgusting behaviour. Edit: not you op.
[–]OrkBegork 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 18日前 (0子コメント)
It's amazing how few people who complain have ever actually spent any time reading through SRS or the related subs.They're certainly completely unfamiliar with the common viewpoints in the social justice community at large, and instead attack these stupid strawman ideas about how "SJWs hate free speech".
They seem like they're clinically unable to differentiate between criticism and censorship. Pointing out racism or general rudeness is not the same as censorship.
Sometimes they try to claim that "accusations of racism derail the conversation", which is also bullshit. Bringing up racism does not "derail" anything. Getting all offended and refusing to actually consider what someone has to say just because they brought up the topic of racism, however...
There are occasional posts on SRS that make me roll my eyes. However, if you're more pissed off that someone is a bit overprotective when it comes to making jokes that touch on issues of gender or race than you are at actual sexism and racism, there's something seriously fucked up about your outlook.
[–]Tundraaa 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 19日前 (7子コメント)
Really can't believe that people would prefer this site be littered with CoonTowners and RedPiller than SJW boogeymen that hail from a circlejerk sub.
[–]noahboah 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 19日前 (3子コメント)
I've seen lots of stupid shit on reddit. but the fact that /u/PeBeFri WORD FOR WORD, LIKE SUPER DUPER LITERALLY SAID:
just boggles my mind. I really cannot understand.
[–]p_velocity 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Makes perfect sense to me....That is who he is. He is a racist and a bigot and thinks that fighting for the oppressed is the same thing as oppressing those in power. One thing that I have learned from reddit is that there is no shortage of simpletons in the world. Folks who look at the fact that black people are arrested more often and take that to mean that black people are more inclined toward crime...they ignore the centuries of crime committed before today and want to look at things in a vacuum.
Now, the fact that a full grown adult can be so completely and utterly purposefully thoughtless and stupid, and yet that person is not riding a bus and wearing a helmet at all times does boggle my mind.
[–]shark_vagina 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
Well if none of the racism or sexism affects him, then why should he care?
[–]noahboah 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 18日前* (0子コメント)
If racism or sexist doesn't effect you, you should probably check your bigot-O-meter.
[–]PeBeFri -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 19日前 (2子コメント)
At least the racists and other such scum aren't taken seriously, and can safely be ignored. The SJWs are quickly gaining real power. Visit your local college campus if you don't believe me...
[–]Xaguta 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Well, they are taken seriously. Dylan Roof said he was inspired to do what he did because of what he read on the internet.
[–]Tundraaa 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Mate I've never met any of these so called SJWs.
And I'm not gonna go looking for "them" by taking liberal arts classes.
You're being intimidated by a non-entity, pull yourself together.
[–]p_velocity 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
I discovered srs during the Trayvon Martin affair
Me too! I didn't google it like you did, I just stumbled across it. At that point I was used to folks calling everyone "Nigger fags" on 4chan and I used to get called "Nigger" on omegle (well, either that or some dude jerking off) but I thought reddit was different.
If I hadn't come across srs I would have quit reddit at that time. I'm so glad that they represent the voice of everyone who does not have their heads up their asses. Honestly, I have no sympathy for the racists and pedophiles and misogynists who get brigaded and shadowbanned and all of that other stuff they accuse SRS of.
I'm sick of this false equivalency...there is such a thing as right and wrong. Your right to free speech means you can say what you want and not get thrown in jail, it doesn't mean folks have to listen to it. If you are not only stupid, but an asshole, you deserve to suffer.
[–]antiraysister 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Jesus man, I'm glad people like you exist. I know reddit isn't a realistic representation of the human race, but, I absolutely adore a lot of the content on here and it saddens me to no end to see all the crap that is spouted. we have to Wade through and ignore a fair amount of bullshit to be able to appreciate the site, yet we're capable of doing it. Why aren't the bigots?
[–]CryEagle 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20日前 (24子コメント)
That's not the issue, blatant harassment of users off-site and on-site is the issue.
It's not unknown that SRS is dealt with separately by the admins whenever reports come in. They (SRS mods) even brag about it.
[–]Xaguta 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 20日前 (23子コメント)
Does anyone have any source to back up CryEagle's claims?
[–]FlamingBearAttack 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
None. Though the SRS mods sarcastically talk about "being in bed with the admins", in order to take the piss out of the idiots who believe that SRS get a pass from the admins.
[–]TheFatMistake 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
SRS will take credit and feed any and all conspiracies theories about them simply to piss off redditors. Damn best trolls I've ever seen.
[–]p_velocity 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
[–]iNEEDheplreddit 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20日前 (18子コメント)
I think they doxxed Boogie212 (I'm not sure of his exact user account). Then of course they took full credit for the violentalcatraz doxxing in the wake of /r/jailbait.
Everytime someone talks about SRS brigading or whatever someone else turns up and asks what you asked. Suffice to say we users never see a paper trail per-se. But it's not unusual to have a highy upvoted comment get linked in SRS or Circlebroke and suddenly have the tone of the comment section change.
Think of SRS as a department store. And inside there is all these tiny little shops that sell different shades of shite. Those shades of shite are all list in their side bar.
It's not just SRS. It's just about every Meta-subreddit. Their sole purpose is to shit on user comments. Sometimes they leek and sometimes not so much. But avoiding brigade detection is so simple that I'm sure the admins wouldn't be sure where it came from. The only thing they or we know is that shortly after linking to another sub the upvotes can become Downvotes.
[–]DeathByRedditcide 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (5子コメント)
But it's not unusual to have a highy upvoted comment get linked in SRS or Circlebroke and suddenly have the tone of the comment section change.
This2
Whenever you hear about a comment being brigaded for some reason the default definition is downvoting the linked comment. For some other reason everyone accepts this definition. This isnt the case. SRS has taken extraordinary measures to ensure they can not be blamed for downvoting the linked comment. They have a dedicated bot that shows the voting curve after its been linked by srs.
SRS dosnt tamper with the linked comment. Instead they go to work in the rest of the comment tree. Their comments are peppered with words and phrases that are meant to shut down discussion not to encourage the exchange of ideas. They make toxic comments and change the tone of the discussion and while they will leave the linked comment alone they will go to work in the rest of the thread. They hijack the top comments by upvoting eatch other. They recognize their members by name recognition and also by their comments. SRS will also downvote any comment that disagrees with their comment or supports the linked comment. For some reason this has been tolerated by reddit for a long time.
[–]chromablitz 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19日前 (4子コメント)
I really don't understand how commenting on something "shuts down" the rest of the discussion. It's still there. People interfering with others' conversations is a part of online discussion, and what SRS does is nothing new.
[–]Xaguta -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 19日前 (3子コメント)
His comment was at +8 until you commented. SRS at work people, you saw it here first.
[–]chromablitz 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (2子コメント)
SRS at work? I never linked this to the SRS front page and just openly stated my opinion and have literally nothing to do with the downvotes. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound right now?
Not to mention that even if I or someone else had posted this to SRS, they have a vote chart to make sure nobody is brigading the linked comment and if someone is, the mods will flag the thread and ban the people who are brigading it.
[–]Xaguta 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
I was making a joke.
[–]Xaguta 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 20日前 (11子コメント)
Thanks for the elaboration. I appreciate it but can't say it has convinced me.
[–]iNEEDheplreddit 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20日前* (10子コメント)
Here is a couple of my favourite posts on the matter of SJW subs
outoftheloop
This comment - user was banned shortly after.
And another - yes it's from r/conspiracy but it is a summery.
[–]Xaguta 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 20日前 (9子コメント)
Eh, maybe I'm just the gullible one. But considering all the proof posted is weak as hell I'll just conclude the Anti-Cabal/Cancer crowd is fucking crazy.
[–]iNEEDheplreddit 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 19日前 (8子コメント)
I'll wager that there is some truth but both are pretty nuts. I mean intortious was on the admin team and actively working with SJW groups to ban users and cultivate opinion. He even has a mod post on SRS since the day he was fired.
These aren't huge leaps of logic.
But anyway. There is a summery. Make of it what you shall.
[–]Xaguta 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 19日前 (5子コメント)
Well yeah, but just because SRS had a direct line of communication with a sympathetic admin doesn't really support anything aside from that fact. Certainly not that there is some SJW-conspiracy going on in the Reddit mod circles.
There will always be a grain of truth hidden somewhere.
[–]antiraysister -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
That's twice now. I can't leave you in the lurch.
It's: *Summary.
[–]NathanielFisherSr 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
I'm wondering the same thing. He says it's "blatant" but hasn't provided any proof.
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I'm not wearing my cabal goggles so I have some trouble identifying the comments. Care to link some for me?
[–]ConfuciusBateman 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
This is hilarious. You take yourself so seriously.
[–]Beli_Mawrr 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (3子コメント)
The difference between SRS and some racist hateful bigots is that SRS goes out and brigades. I'd rather have hateful assholes who keep to themselves than hateful assholes who then go and harass other users.
Enjoy your gold, mate.
[–]Insetick 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
The hateful people do leave their subreddits to brigade and harass others.
https://archive.is/uxSmn FPH visit /r/leagueoflegends
https://archive.is/CYOo4 /r/grandtheftautov mods talk about FPH brigades
https://archive.is/318c3 FPH visits /r/TIL
[–]Beli_Mawrr 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 18日前 (0子コメント)
Yeah I'm behind fph getting banned (so long as they actually were brigadier and stuff) but I'd like to see that standard applied reddit wide. Ahem Srs
[–]PeBeFri 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Thanks.
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 20日前 (46子コメント)
are you really comparing SRS to the chimpire?
[–]PeBeFri -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 20日前 (44子コメント)
The "chimpire" can be ignored by decent Redditors. The "fempire," with their downvote brigades, cannot.
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 20日前 (34子コメント)
The "chimpire" can be ignored by decent Redditors
I deal with these users on a daily basis, wandering into subs I mod and saying extremely racist things. you're flat wrong about this.
[–]None-Of-You-Are-Real -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 20日前 (12子コメント)
aaand what do you know, most of the subs you moderate are part of the Fempire.
I'd be willing to bet your definition of "extremely racist" is a bit different from most people's.
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 20日前 (10子コメント)
I moderate exactly 0 "fempire" subs
[–]None-Of-You-Are-Real -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 20日前 (3子コメント)
You can say a spade isn't a spade until you're blue in the face, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a spade.
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
no but really I don't and you're making things up
[–]None-Of-You-Are-Real -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
No, of course, you're right, there's no overlap at all between SRS and /r/SubredditDrama and all its spinoffs, /r/TheBluePill, and /r/FeministFrequency.
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
there's no overlap at all between SRS and /r/SubredditDrama
correct
/r/TheBluePill,
I will admit to mocking /r/theredpill. That's not an SRS view, to my knowledge. If you're pro-TRP then I would suggest that you are the one with problems.
and /r/FeministFrequency.
hilariously, I was modded here as a diversity hire, because I don't like FF.
[–]DeathByRedditcide -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 19日前 (5子コメント)
not true. You have turned SRD into SRS
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 19日前 (4子コメント)
https://xkcd.com/285/
[–]CaptainMemer 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
DAE le relevant xkcd
[–]xkcd_transcriber 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
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Title: Wikipedian Protester
Title-text: SEMI-PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION
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Stats: This comic has been referenced 334 times, representing 0.4599% of referenced xkcds.
xkcd.com | xkcd sub | Problems/Bugs? | Statistics | Stop Replying | Delete
[–]None-Of-You-Are-Real 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
Here you go:
/r/SubredditDrama
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
go on?
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[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20日前 (3子コメント)
Goddamn I am so damn sick of the SRS bogeyman. At least complain about SRD.
[–][削除されました] 19日前* (1子コメント)
[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
clique*
[–]EnigmaticTortoise -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
It's hilarious because CT would just be a couple thousand racists ranting at each other in obscurity, but these idiots can't help but bring it up constantly, gaining it new subs every single time. These morons are really their own worse enemy, radicals almost always do more to harm their cause than help it.
[–]Ahaon 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (2子コメント)
So, what, we can't be perfect so we shouldn't try to make it better? That's such a silly position to take.
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[–]Ahaon 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Maybe not, but that doesn't mean we should make them feel welcome by keeping vitriolic subs like coontown open. We'll never eliminate murder in our society either, but that doesn't mean we should legalize it.
[–]PeBeFri 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 20日前 (8子コメント)
You're a moderator. Downvote. Delete. Ban. Ignore.
[+]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK スコアが基準値未満のコメント-21ポイント-20ポイント-19ポイント 20日前 (7子コメント)
oh noes!
[–]willfe42 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 20日前 (6子コメント)
... uh, I think he was suggesting a possible course of action for you to take in such situations.
[–]iNEEDheplreddit 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
TiTtCJ taking positive modding advice ? Pffft fuck that. Pretty sure you both would be banned in his subs for what you said.
[–]willfe42 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
Heh. He already banned me once actually, but I got better.
[+]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 20日前 (3子コメント)
Oh. Well, sure, I can do that, but I still get fucking sick of having to deal with them.
[–]willfe42 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
Isn't that actually easier/faster than any other means of dealing with them, though?
[–]iNEEDheplreddit 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
He isn't banning users he is "changing society".
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[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
You are without a doubt a sjw douche bag. You, almost by yourself, have turned SRD into SRS lite.
god I love how easy it is to know you're a liar when you write shit like this
[–]TheCid 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 20日前 (8子コメント)
Can confirm. When I was a mod of /r/tf2 and /r/magictcg, we never had problems being raided and brigaded by racist groups. We repeatedly had issues with SRS and the fempire.
[–]absurdlyobfuscated 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 20日前 (6子コメント)
My experience moderating /r/aww has been similar. I have personally never seen a coordinated effort to target an individual or comment from any other group. And when they do (which thankfully is quite rare), there's a huge mess and flamewars and ugly stuff that we have to clean up.
[–]TheCid 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 20日前 (5子コメント)
What in the fuck is in /r/aww that would trigger those morons?
[–]absurdlyobfuscated 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 20日前 (3子コメント)
Jokes mostly, IIRC.
[–]iNEEDheplreddit 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
A joke is as good commiting the very act described in the joke. That's SJW logic. It's pornographically Orwellian.
[–]Kovi34 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
I find that funny because if you look at their comments it's full of jokes about the OP and the str8 white mail boogeyman
basically "its ok when i do it"
[–]EnigmaticTortoise 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
They really love their shitty ad hominems, don't they? Gamergoobers is my favourite, it sounds like something a kindergartener would call you.
[–]willfe42 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
Non-SJW content.
[–]neoballoon -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 18日前 (0子コメント)
Because gamers tend to be insulated low key racists anyways
[–]birdboy2000 -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
They're basically the same thing, but one has more subs.
[–]Patricki 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
/r/ShitRedditSays linked you and are following you from sub to sub, brigading, downvoting, and harassing you.
paging /u/spez
[–]williams_482 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19日前* (0子コメント)
And as you can clearly see from this, they are obviously all downvoting the shit out of this poor guy.
Oh, wait.
His profile page doesn't exactly scream "downvote brigades" either. With the exception of a random /r/aww post that I don't understand, every post on the first page with a negative score or a red dagger is both in this thread, and worded in such a way or that I am not surprised that voters found them controversial.
[–]captainloudmouth 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
I'd rather use a website populated by racists and bigots than one used by social justice warriors
What's the difference?
[–]Wild_Marker -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
There's a lot of fairly obvious ones, I think he's refering to those when he says "you know it when you see it".
I'd rather have none of them, frankly. But I suppose SJWs are easier to deal with than racist and bigots.
Yup. Reddit's been asking this for a looong time now. Perhaps it's the perfect time to renew that effort.
[–]minorEarth_majorSky -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 20日前 (9子コメント)
If the only way you can enjoy reddit is by being hateful, I doubt you'll be missed.
[–]PeBeFri 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 20日前 (8子コメント)
Are you really conflating free speech advocacy with endorsement of hate speech?
[–]willfe42 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
Of course they are. They're trying to seize the chance to toss out everyone they disagree with, oppose and/or hate.
They've all got their favorite buttmonkey sub -- the pattern's been repeating here all afternoon so far: they list all the "obvious" subs that need to go: /r/CoonTown gets listed first, then a couple others, then whatever sub they really hate most. I've seen it be /r/TheRedPill and /r/KotakuInAction and plenty of others.
They're not even being subtle about it. If you support freedom of speech, you literally rape black baby girls while wearing Hitler's mustache and burning a bible.
I knew they'd show their true colors amid this stupidity (they can't help themselves -- literally salivating at the chance to blanket ban everyone they hate), but I figured they'd be able to keep up the facade for at least a day. But nope. They're already frenzied.
[–]iNEEDheplreddit 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
Bring your umbrella for the flood of SJW tears and bask in the yimminess
Can't. I gotta get these infants over to the nazi clubhouse while they're still fresh.
[+]rasputine スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 20日前 (4子コメント)
You literally endorsed hate speech. Unambiguously.
[–]iehava 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20日前 (3子コメント)
No, he or she endorsed ALL FREE SPEECH.
[–]rasputine -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 19日前 (2子コメント)
That is quite blatantly untrue, since in the same statement with which he explicitly endorses hate speech, he explicitly derides 'SJW' speech.
[–]iehava 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
S/he is saying the opposite of that. They are saying that they endorse a situation where everyone, be they racists, free speech advocates, SJW's, Star Trek fans, Bronies, whatever, can say what they want without fear of censorship.
I too would rather be on a platform that refused to censor even detestable content, such as racism and homophobia, than a platform that tries to decide for me - using prior restraint - what content is worthy of being viewed and that which is not. This is based on the simple belief that some idea or some body of content can be judged on its own merits; that I being an adult, grown-up person, can decide for myself that which is detestable, or unworthy of further viewing. Even if I wanted to shield myself from such content, there is no person - not a single one - that I would trust to make these decisions for me.
[–]EnigmaticTortoise 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Why do you people fail to understand that deriding something doesn't mean you want it banned?
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[–]AnSq 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
Yeah, how DARE they not hate women and black people.
[–]FalmerbloodElixir 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
SJWs are the cancer that is killing everything on the internet.
[+]FakeyFaked スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19ポイント-18ポイント-17ポイント 20日前 (33子コメント)
Bye. Seriously, if you'd rather have a website full of bigots, bye. That's not where I'd like to be. That's not the website I want to be a part of.
[–]birdboy2000 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 20日前 (32子コメント)
SJWs are bigots. Personally, I have no problem if reddit bans both - but letting the people who harass me for being a geek and trend hashtags like #Killallmen stay while banning "bigots" means I can't feel safe on reddit anymore. At least if reddit's a free speech site I can respect their decision to let them organize.
[+]FakeyFaked スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 20日前 (31子コメント)
You take #killallmen literally? Wow, and they say us SJWs are sensitive.
If you are so concerned about the plight of bigots, i cannot help you. And the "antiracists are the real bigots" is soooo juvenile and a poor argument.
[–]birdboy2000 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 20日前 (16子コメント)
remember the last time neo-nazis trended a hashtag starting with #killall? Me neither. But if it was just that hashtag, I'd be fine - the people who went around livejournal stalking and harassing people and sending death threats to their critics were doing it in the name of social justice.
I'm an antiracist. That doesn't mean I should tolerate edgelords who tell me to die because they're ~oppressed~ - they're racists too.
[–]DrHampants 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19日前 (1子コメント)
remember the last time neo-nazis trended a hashtag starting with #killall? Me neither.
Remember the last time SJWs gassed 11 million people? Me neither.
[–]birdboy2000 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Both neo-nazis and SJWs are thankfully not presently in a position to gas anyone, and I hope to keep it that way. Dangerous hate movements should be kept from the halls of power.
If someone's more willing to call for mass murder then people who actually idolize Adolf Hitler, I can't view them any other way.
[+]FakeyFaked スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13ポイント-12ポイント-11ポイント 20日前 (13子コメント)
/r/AsAnAntiracist
[–]birdboy2000 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20日前 (12子コメント)
as an antiracist I oppose racism? Yeah, that's kind of the definition - giving racists cover because you have a special definition of racism that doesn't apply to the racists you like isn't anti-racism, it's the opposite.
[+]FakeyFaked スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 20日前 (11子コメント)
You're not an anti-racist. Your words show it. Anti-racists don't think that racism against white people is even a thing.
You can call yourself anti-racist, but you're just not.
[–]birdboy2000 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 20日前 (8子コメント)
I've spent years of my life trying to debunk nazi kooks on the web. Seriously, search usenet and you can find someone by this name arguing with Matt Giwer, one of the web's first holocaust deniers. Was in high school back then, wasn't as informed or good at it, but was trying.
Done a lot of it since - most of it anonymously on 4chan, and I like to think that one thread where I spent hours refuting holocaust deniers point for point is the reason even /pol/ doesn't post that crap anymore - but literally every post you can find from me on the subject of white supremacists anywhere on the web shows my opposition to their ideology.
It's absolutely heartbreaking to see people who consider themselves left-wingers or anti-racists embrace the same ideas and swap around the races in question, and to do it with a greater presence and vehemence on the web than even neo-nazis, although luckily they're so far still irrelevant in meatspace.
(Although to be fair re: my "greater presence and vehemence" remark, sentiments like "kill all white men" do help neo-nazis recruit - Bahar Mustafa was all over /pol/ - so maybe if they're good enough at it they can revitalize web nazism into a greater threat than ever before.)
Hate feeds hate. Racism feeds racism. When you stop trying to break that cycle, you stop being an anti-racist. Conflating institutionalized racism (which does not exist against white people in the US) with the individual kind (which does) as an excuse to be a racist bigot helps no one.
[–]FakeyFaked -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 19日前 (7子コメント)
Bro, you're not anti-racist. Stop trying to justify your ridiculousness and projected accusation of conflation and be fucking reflexive.
[–]willfe42 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
You should read some of /u/IrbyTremor's totally-not-racist proclamations about the evils of white people, men, and straight people. Don't even get her started on straight white men. You'll need to don a slicker to avoid all the spittle.
[–]FakeyFaked 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
That person is +1 on my RES. Seems they are AOK with me.
[–]Im_a_wet_towel 25ポイント26ポイント27ポイント 20日前 (6子コメント)
I'm gonna say the same thing when someone complains about rape jokes.
[+]FakeyFaked スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19ポイント-18ポイント-17ポイント 20日前 (5子コメント)
Jokes only are funny in an upward direction, not downward.
[–]Im_a_wet_towel 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 20日前 (3子コメント)
What does that even mean?
It means he thinks he's being oppressed.
And you're not allowed to joke unless you're being oppressed. Or something.
[–]Im_a_wet_towel 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
But...if he is telling me what I am allowed to do, and therefore what I am NOT allowed to do, isn't he oppressing me?
[–]willfe42 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
Nope. He's still the victim -- didn't you see him tell you he has to punch up to reach you? You're clearly "above" him somehow, because he says so. Stop oppressing him, shitlord! Check your privilege and such!
As for a serious answer, yes. He's trying to dictate behavior and attacking anyone who disagrees. These stupid little wannabe pocket dictators are so easy to spot it's getting hard to feel anything but pity for them anymore.
[–]FalmerbloodElixir 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 20日前 (4子コメント)
So if somebody started a hashtag #killallwomen, you'd all be okay with that? As long as it wasn't literal? How about the dreaded rape jokes? They're just jokes, after all.
[+]FakeyFaked スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 20日前 (3子コメント)
Jokes only are funny going up, not down. Everyone knows that.
[–]FalmerbloodElixir 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
That makes no sense at all. It just illustrates the typical SJW hypocrisy that we all know and love.
I'm a white guy. So it's funny to say I should be killed? Fuck you.
[+]FakeyFaked スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 20日前 (1子コメント)
Tons of comedians have said the exact thing.
And of course you're a white guy, this is Reddit after all. Only on Reddit is there such a jimmie rustling because things like /r/rapingwomen are going to be banned.
[–]FalmerbloodElixir 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
Where the fucking fuckety-fuck did I say I gave a fuck about /r/rapingwomen being banned? I want it to be banned. I'm generally in favor of the new no-harassment rules, provided they have a very clear definition of what harassment is, so that people cannot say they were harassed because somebody disagreed with them.
But hey, I'm white and I'm not a white-knight, so obviously I'm some sort of horrific rapist.
Heh. So "I'm just kidding, lol!" is okay ... just only when you snowflakes do it.
[–]ShitlordRick 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
But Social Justice Warriors are bigots and racists....
[–]MissLauralot 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
migrating my presence to Voat
Good. Piss off.
[–]intortus 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 20日前 (11子コメント)
Have fun at voat!
[–]Delinquent_ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20日前 (9子コメント)
Hell, I wont mind going there as long as their aren't some self-entitled dumb bitches whining about how the "man" is always bringing them down. When most of them were raised above average income/had an easy life and just want to bitch about something, because that's what women do.
[–]bobdole776 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 20日前 (2子コメント)
Just a FYI, that guy is a mod over on SRS.
[–]FalmerbloodElixir 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
He was also a former Reddit admin, I believe.
[–]Delinquent_ 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
Hah, that's fucking perfect, please for the love of god don't doxx me mister.
[–]Fiesty43 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 20日前 (5子コメント)
That might be the single most sexist comment I've ever read on reddit. /r/theredpill much?
[+]Delinquent_ スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 20日前 (4子コメント)
Then you haven't been on Reddit long. I'm all for women have the exact same rights as men, same jobs, same pay, you know, equality all around. I have a great girlfriend who I support no matter what she wants to do. Hell, she even makes more then me right now and I personally love it.
But, SRS is a bunch of little girls crying about stupid shit. Most don't even know how hard of a struggle it is in life when their parents aren't holding their hand. They are just a bunch of keyboard justice warriors looking for something to complain about because their actual lives are boring/mundane. Most likely because they can't emotionally connect with a guy without calling him a rapist or something. Or they identify as a toaster and can't find a fellow toaster kin to fall in love with.
[–]Ls777 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 19日前 (2子コメント)
You know SRS is composed primarily of cis straight white males right
[–]rubbishmyjunk 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 18日前 (0子コメント)
cis is not a fucking prefix
[–]Ahaon 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
checking in
[–]Tundraaa 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
SRS, and most of reddit, is composed of mostly white males...are you going to make fun of white males next?
Cause if you do, you'll get downvoted.
[–]Froghurt -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
Please. Please don't leave. Whatever will we do without you.
[+]pie-oh スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 19日前 (0子コメント)
Then put simply, you are not a nice person.
You may disagree with what 'SJWs' do, but they try to elevate people's status they feel downtrodden.
The racists, try to hurt and push down a group of people's status. They seek to hurt.
Now, I know the rhetoric, "SJWs seek to hurt." And I can't believe anyone feels that with absolute honesty. I mean the whole word is about "social justice." Justice being about balance.
[–]Fiesty43 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
We don't aim to oppress you and what you say. We just like making fun of shitty, racist, hateful people on the terrible parts of this website.
[–]SenatorIncitatus -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 20日前 (0子コメント)
And nothing of value was lost.
[–]4_times_shadowbanned 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 18日前 (0子コメント)
lol
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