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[–]Olive_Jane 145ポイント146ポイント  (41子コメント)

Animated CP

This is absolutely the wrong term for stuff like drawings or stories about the underage. You're calling drawings, writings, art, etc, child porn wrongly.

Child Pornography

Child pornography is a form of child sexual exploitation. Federal law defines child pornography as any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor (persons less than 18 years old). Images of child pornography are also referred to as child sexual abuse images.

Source: http://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/child-pornography

Can you speak on how exactly minors, or anybody, is being exploited or hurt by the content in subs like /r/lolicons?

[–]jpatton89 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

How can the person in a drawing be considered "under aged" if said person doesn't even exist?

[–]GodOfCakes 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just an FYI, but while cartoons and simulated child porn aren't explicitly illegal in the U.S., it is subject to obscenity laws and the Supreme Court set a precedent in a ruling in 2008 against cp cartoons, even after the Supreme Court ruled the 1996 wholesale ban unconstitional. Tl;dr simulated child porn is a legal grey area subject to judges and prosecutors opinions (again, obscenity laws) and so reddit could get in serious legal trouble for hosting it.

here's a fun Wikipedia page

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[–]pizzabash 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If we were to go off of california laws(where reddit is based) then loli is completely legal

[–]TheFluxIsThis 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depending on where you live, stuff like lolicon is considered a form of child porn. IIRC, the big rule 34 website (rule34.paheal.net) actually banned most "child" uploads ages ago because of this fact.

[–]SwedishDude[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

In Sweden any illustration that can be subjectively considered to be sexual in nature and depicting a human (or human-like) minor (-18y) is considered to be CP and is prohibited to buy/sell/acquire and watch. If the court thinks that images are sexual and that the character could be considered a minor it's illegal.

In a famous case a manga translator got raided and arrested after a disgruntled ex-wife reported him and the prosecution thought that 39 pages among the thousands in his home looked too sexual.

After two convictions a final appeal to the Swedish supreme court (Högsta Domstolen) resulted in an acquittal. 1 of the pictures was in the end considered to be CP but the court found it reasonable that he as an expert in Japanese culture and professional translator with such a large collection might have it without any criminal intent.

One of the justices told Swedish television that he thought criminalizing fanasty drawings impedes freedom of speech and that he felt lawmakers had taken it too far.

[–]JBHUTT09 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, shit. I guess Negima! (SFW) must be illegal there. So fucked up because it's a great series. It's just got some fanservice in it.

[–]Olive_Jane 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are so many stories about this type of stuff being used to ruin people's lives.

Pretty sad in my eyes. Glad he was acquitted, in this case it really sounds like he was being thrown under the bus by any means possible, for a personal vendetta no less...

BTW Happy cake day

[–]cat5inthecradle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a controversial opinion, but I wonder if animated CP is the 'compromise' necessary to keep pedophiles from being a threat to actual people. Punishing someone for finding the least harmful way to satisfy urges that they know are unacceptable and unrealizable seems like a good way to drive someone to actually commit a crime out of desperation. Maybe the safest way to allow pedophiles to coexist without harm is to allow them a victimless outlet.

[–]Kallikanzarid 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

any visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct involving a minor

Doesn't say it has to be an actual minor, depiction is a broad concept

[–]Briggykins -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Psychologists say it normalises child abuse material, it makes it more acceptable in the mind of the viewer, and lessens the leap required to start viewing 'actual' child abuse. That's why it's banned here in the UK.

[–]eoliveri 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, some psychologists say utter crap.

[–]czs5056 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

What on Reddit was /r/lolicons

[–]Jaedang 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Basically /r/ecchi but instead depicting young girls/children, /r/pomf was the /r/hentai equivalent

[–]grappoz 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Basically this stuff, I see no reason to ban it

https://voat.co/v/lolicon nsfw

[–]Doppe1g4nger -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not muh waifus!

[–]pizza_partyUSA -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

ew, dude.