Content Policy Update

Cheech5 · 30分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else. Our most important policy over the last ten years has been to allow just about anything so long as it does not prevent others from enjoying Reddit for what it is: the best place online to have truly authentic conversations

Which communities have been banned?

slyf · 25分前

This page (https://www.reddit.com/about/alien/) says that

Remember: "reddit" is always lowercase.

But your Content Policy spells it with a capital R, has this branding changed?

TheMentalist10 · 30分前

Will you be sharing information about the communities which are Quarantined? Will moderators of those communities know if their subreddit has been affected?

Edit: Just as it's not immediately obvious, /r/Coontown has been banned

Edit 2: Here's what it looks like when you try to access a Quarantined subreddit

ChangloriousBastard · 28分前

Under "Enforcement", shadowbanning is not listed. I know the list is not comprehensive, but does that mean that shadowbanning will no longer be used to enforce the rules as illustrated in the updated content policy?

WhiteFlight2 · 22分前

I thought you were going to provide a link with why a subreddit was banned. /r/coontown, despite being reviled amongst some users didn't appear to violate any of the rules. It also did well to enforce additional rules that places like SRS flaunt. Why was /r/coontown banned, specifically?

illegal_deagle · 25分前

Unfortunately it looks like SRS will continue to enjoy their harassment and downvote brigading.

Teh_Compass · 23分前

Quarantining is a good step from outright banning. But banning more subreddits in addition to that isn't going to solve anything.

Banning subreddits that break the TOS like harassing users and such makes sense, but you can't go and ban subreddits that don't, no matter how much people don't like them.

/r/fatpeoplehate, for example, was annoying to people but could easily be ignored. It didn't need to be banned initially. But I totally understand that it was banned for the brigading it did. I was subscribed to one of the subreddits that was being brigaded and its users harassed.

/r/coontown, for example is easily ignored and doesn't deserve to be banned, even if they are racist as shit. I hear rumors about brigading but I personally don't know enough about it. If there is evidence that they are doing something like that then by all means ban them. But just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they should be banned.

You essentially run the site and can do whatever you want. But remember what the users want.

Naked_Bacon_Tuesday · 25分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else. Our most important policy over the last ten years has been to allow just about anything so long as it does not prevent others from enjoying Reddit for what it is: the best place online to have truly authentic conversations.

If you do plan to ban subs, I'm sure reddit would enjoy an itemized list of ban reasons/offenses by each sub. This shouldn't necessarily include a link or something to an example of the offense, but the list provided should be detailed enough for a reasonable person to say, "OK, yeah, that's clear enough to require the ban."

But the bans should definitely be released and reasons for them made clear.

Facerless · 28分前

Encourages or incites violence
Threatens, harasses, or bullies or encourages others to do so

Are these going to be used against communities that are centered around the pre-existing hatred or dislike of a group or person?

I realize this is nit picking but this is still fairly vague

What constitutes encouragement or how will you decide what incites someone to action?

CarmineCerise · 30分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

Will there be a clear list of banned subreddits?

BillW87 · 28分前

For the sake of transparency I feel like it would be best to make the list of banned communities public. With all of the concerns lately about the admins not being transparent enough, banning subs without telling us who they are seems counterproductive.

Goatsac · 11分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

Glad to see /r/againstmensrights and /r/gamerghazi are still going strong.

GamersCorp · 29分前

Can you give us any examples of specific subreddits that will be quarantined?

Demolishing · 29分前

Is involuntary pornography

How will this affect stuff like /r/amateur and /r/realgirls and /r/SluttyHalloween ?

dwchief · 27分前

If a user is subscribed to a Quarantined subreddit, will it still appear on their front page?

dragonfangxl · 24分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

I dont understand. Why bother making this new tool (quarantines) if you're still going to ban subreddits? Do you not trust the effectiveness of this tool? Also is there a list of the subreddits being banned?

GreyWalker · 27分前

A community will be Quarantined on Reddit when we deem its content to be extremely offensive or upsetting to the average redditor or to ourselves. The purpose of quarantining a community is to prevent its content from being accidentally viewed by those who do not wish to do so. Restrictions on a quarantined community include:

Requiring an account with a verified email address

Requiring an explicit opt-in

No custom images

Will generate no revenue, including ads or Reddit Gold

edafade · 25分前

Subs like /r/coontown are banned (in fact, you banned only coontown related subs) but SRS is still up and running.

While I didn't agree with their ideology or what they represented, you, /u/spez stated yourself on several occasions, you did not support the beliefs of /r/coontown but believed they had a place here on reddit. SRS clearly violates reddit's Content "Policy" yet remains unaffected whereas the former did not and were contained to their own communities.

It's the same shit as before, just packaged with a ribbon.

Very disappointing.

dustfeather · 30分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else

Sooo... who is getting banned?

Saint_Judas · 12分前

I don't mind censorship on Reddit (after all it is your platform) but it is the hypocrisy that bugs me. Banning ideas, while saying you only ban actions, while certain subreddits actively engage in the actions you say you are preventing but are given free reign. I would be so much happier with these decisions if you just straight up told us that you are banning things the board members don't like.

geekgreg · 22分前

The content guidelines refer to a harassment policy which uses the words "bully" and then "demean" as a part of harassment.

Could we get some clarification on those terms?

xienze · 23分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

And yet, SRS remains.

ThrowGoToGo · 20分前

Still murky as all hell. TL; DR: Subs we like will stay (SRS), subs we don't like will go (FPH variants, coontown).

raldi · 30分前

I'm sure some of you are rushing to find the Imgur link about how ripping out someone's tongue doesn't prove them wrong, and that the real answer is to engage them in debate.

But it doesn't really apply, because nobody's tongue was ripped out. The bigots have already migrated to another site, and they're doing just fine.

Shockingly, it doesn't look like the conversation going on over there in any way resembles an intellectually-honest debate on racial issues.

LargeSnorlax · 30分前

Out of sheer curiosity, can we get a list of specific subs that were so awful that they have to be banned immediately?

kecos · 26分前

Like other people have said it would be nice to see a list of what's banned. Nice to see coontown is one of them though.

zachlac · 29分前

Soooooo...shadowbanning? Do you shadow ban for violation of content policy violations? At what point in the list of punishments would this fall?

faghat · 27分前

Who decides who the "average redditor" would be? Is Reddit going to be polling this, for example? Will users be able to tell you what content we would like Quarantined, or will you just handpick a bunch that SRS whine about most frequently?

thesexygazelle · 24分前

With the new push for transparency I would expect that the list of banned subreddits would be published. I feel like there is a lot of talk about transparency and community involvement but not a lot of actual transparency and the community involvement seems more for posterity's sake.

Artalay · 25分前

Out of curiosity what constitutes the "average redditor"? And if you don't have a working definition of that, what steps will you be taking towards coming up with it?

blanketswithsmallpox · 30分前

To those with RES, turn off night mode when reading it.

excoriator · 27分前

handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

IMO, this describes the "drama" subreddits.

Ughable · 28分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors

What about /r/ShitRedditSays ?!

Voidroth · 13分前

What will be considered "extremely offensive"?

SweetJibbaJams · 30分前

So.... Who is getting banned?

SteelSaxon · 21分前

No supporter of Coontown but this is ridiculous

Arbitrary definitions of what gets banned and what doesn't, what makes Reddit worse and what doesn't. It won't work and in the long run you'll fight a never ending war to please everyone and end up pleasing nobody. How SRS didn't make the cut for a ban since it interferes in every Sub when Coontown was relatively contained is case in point.

Mobre · 9分前

Can you explain the difference between these two?

We will Quarantine communities whose content would be considered extremely offensive to the average redditor.

and

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditers, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else

and how /r/coontown applies to the latter rather than the former? Because it seems that the application of who is quarantined and who is banned overlap and is completely up to the arbitrary decision of the admin rather then an explicit and defined rule set.

jcfy · 5分前

/r/buttcoin exists only to harrass and troll redditors of the bitcoin subreddit. Are subreddits like these left alone because they arent racist, where is the line drawn?

HiveNode · 1分前

Honest question, why is /r/shitredditsays allowed to organize downvote brigades and with death upon men, spewing nothing but senseless hatred, and nobody cares?

Vittles_And_Libation · 7分前

Reddit apparently doesn't want word to get out that approximately 6% of the American population commits nearly 55% of the murders !

Shhhhhhhhhh!!! ;)

username3 · 28分前

"the average redditor"
Yikes

The_Homestarmy · 24分前

How will this affect /r/hulkhogan, brother?

IntoleranceFUCKYEAH · 3分前

Reddit isn't doing this to protect the users, they're doing this to protect the advertisers so they feel more comfortable being associated with a website like this. It's pretty simple. Why explain to your advertiser who doesn't understand Reddit, "But those subreddits, you choose to enter! It's not all bad" and give a huge explanation. Wouldn't you rather just say, "Reddit is a great place!" and not have to worry about bad subreddits?

until0 · 3分前

Why don't you just ban SRS? Seriously, why do you keep defending them. Half of this thread is saying your word is usless due to your blatant hypocrisy, and they are not wrong...

I don't understand why you don't just follow suit, they clearly break the rules you've just laid out, but yet, you'd rather annoy your users and provide shelter for a bastion of hate, then do what is not only expected, but morally correct.

senorchicken · 29分前

Could we get a list of said quarantined communities?

BurningStoicism · 2分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else

Yet, I see the anti-white hate of /r/blackladies is still around, and the constantly harassing and brigading /r/rshitredditsays is still around. Nice way to cherrypick your "hate", isn't it?

Xet · 12分前

Regarding Quarantining: Would you ever quarantine a large subreddit like /r/wtf?

A community will be Quarantined on Reddit when we deem its content to be extremely offensive or upsetting to the average redditor.

One could argue that the very gorey types of pictures that appear on /r/wtf would be pretty upsetting. I know I've accidentally clicked on /r/wtf images when I temporarily disabled my own RES filters, and honestly of all things on the site, some of the stuff there is more troubling to me than discriminatory self text posts.

Accelerating_Chicken · 9分前

Listing your methods of countermeasure against things violating your policy is all well and good, but it seems which things that qualify the use of said countermeasure is open to interpretation? Seeing as removing content and quarantining content are completely different things, how are you planning to distinguish between different rules of enforcement?

zerconic · 8分前

A community will be Quarantined on Reddit when we deem its content to be extremely offensive or upsetting to the average redditor or to ourselves.

Does this also mean that reddit is endorsing any subreddits they choose not to quarantine or ban, since they are now individually censoring subreddits?

The-Dead-kennedys · 9分前

/u/spez why haven't you banned /r/ShitRedditSays yet ? Don't they have a history of harassment ?

Drapetomania · 17分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

Great! When are SRD and SRS getting the boot?

meauxfaux · 29分前

Thanks for keeping us in the loop. It's important to me to be part of this conversation.

themundanematt · 17分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors

Yet, /r/shitredditsays still exists.

TheSandbergPrinciple · 14分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else

Really, why is /r/shitredditsays and /r/subredditdrama (basically srs in disguise) still accessible?

MacorgaZ · 28分前

So ShitRedditSays is finally getting banned?

DdMDaniels · 19分前

/u/spez why is /r/shitredditsays still up? this is nothing but a subreddit that brigades and attacks other users?

R3DT1D3 · 13分前

I hope that some day the rules will be upheld for ALL subs not just the politically incorrect ones.

_--___ · 28分前

Which communities are being banned?

abedneg0 · 29分前

Today, [...] we are banning a handful of communities

Is there a list?

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