Content Policy Update

Cheech5 · 20分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else. Our most important policy over the last ten years has been to allow just about anything so long as it does not prevent others from enjoying Reddit for what it is: the best place online to have truly authentic conversations

Which communities have been banned?

slyf · 16分前

This page (https://www.reddit.com/about/alien/) says that

Remember: "reddit" is always lowercase.

But your Content Policy spells it with a capital R, has this branding changed?

TheMentalist10 · 20分前

Will you be sharing information about the communities which are Quarantined? Will moderators of those communities know if their subreddit has been affected?

Edit: Just as it's not immediately obvious, /r/Coontown has been banned

Edit 2: Here's what it looks like when you try to access a Quarantined subreddit

ChangloriousBastard · 19分前

Under "Enforcement", shadowbanning is not listed. I know the list is not comprehensive, but does that mean that shadowbanning will no longer be used to enforce the rules as illustrated in the updated content policy?

WhiteFlight2 · 13分前

I thought you were going to provide a link with why a subreddit was banned. /r/coontown, despite being reviled amongst some users didn't appear to violate any of the rules. It also did well to enforce additional rules that places like SRS flaunt. Why was /r/coontown banned, specifically?

illegal_deagle · 16分前

Unfortunately it looks like SRS will continue to enjoy their harassment and downvote brigading.

CarmineCerise · 21分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

Will there be a clear list of banned subreddits?

Naked_Bacon_Tuesday · 16分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else. Our most important policy over the last ten years has been to allow just about anything so long as it does not prevent others from enjoying Reddit for what it is: the best place online to have truly authentic conversations.

If you do plan to ban subs, I'm sure reddit would enjoy an itemized list of ban reasons/offenses by each sub. This shouldn't necessarily include a link or something to an example of the offense, but the list provided should be detailed enough for a reasonable person to say, "OK, yeah, that's clear enough to require the ban."

But the bans should definitely be released and reasons for them made clear.

Facerless · 19分前

Encourages or incites violence
Threatens, harasses, or bullies or encourages others to do so

Are these going to be used against communities that are centered around the pre-existing hatred or dislike of a group or person?

I realize this is nit picking but this is still fairly vague

What constitutes encouragement or how will you decide what incites someone to action?

BillW87 · 19分前

For the sake of transparency I feel like it would be best to make the list of banned communities public. With all of the concerns lately about the admins not being transparent enough, banning subs without telling us who they are seems counterproductive.

Demolishing · 20分前

Is involuntary pornography

How will this affect stuff like /r/amateur and /r/realgirls and /r/SluttyHalloween ?

GreyWalker · 18分前

A community will be Quarantined on Reddit when we deem its content to be extremely offensive or upsetting to the average redditor or to ourselves. The purpose of quarantining a community is to prevent its content from being accidentally viewed by those who do not wish to do so. Restrictions on a quarantined community include:

Requiring an account with a verified email address

Requiring an explicit opt-in

No custom images

Will generate no revenue, including ads or Reddit Gold

dwchief · 18分前

If a user is subscribed to a Quarantined subreddit, will it still appear on their front page?

GamersCorp · 20分前

Can you give us any examples of specific subreddits that will be quarantined?

edafade · 16分前

Subs like /r/coontown are banned (in fact, you banned only coontown related subs) but SRS is still up and running. While I didn't agree with their ideology or what they represented, you, /u/spez stated yourself on several occasions, you did not support the beliefs of /r/coontown but believed they had a place here on reddit. SRS clearly violates reddits Content "Policy" but remains unaffected whereas the former were contained to their own communities and did not.

It's the same shit as before, just packaged with a ribbon.

Very disappointing.

Teh_Compass · 14分前

Quarantining is a good step from outright banning. But banning more subreddits in addition to that isn't going to solve anything.

Banning subreddits that break the TOS like harassing users and such makes sense, but you can't go and ban subreddits that don't, no matter how much people don't like them.

/r/fatpeoplehate, for example, was annoying to people but could easily be ignored. It didn't need to be banned initially. But I totally understand that it was banned for the brigading it did. I was subscribed to one of the subreddits that was being brigaded and its users harassed.

/r/coontown, for example is easily ignored and doesn't deserve to be banned, even if they are racist as shit. I hear rumors about brigading but I personally don't know enough about it. If there is evidence that they are doing something like that then by all means ban them. But just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they should be banned.

You essentially run the site and can do whatever you want. But remember what the users want.

dustfeather · 21分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else

Sooo... who is getting banned?

SteelSaxon · 12分前

No supporter of Coontown but this is ridiculous

Arbitrary definitions of what gets banned and what doesn't, what makes Reddit worse and what doesn't. It won't work in the long run you'll fight a never ending war to please everyone and end up pleasing nobody. How SRS didn't make the cut for a ban since it interferes in every Sub when Coontown was relatively contained is case in point.

xienze · 13分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

And yet, SRS remains.

ThrowGoToGo · 11分前

Still murky as all hell. TL; DR: Subs we like will stay (SRS), subs we don't like will go (FPH variants, coontown).

Artalay · 15分前

Out of curiosity what constitutes the "average redditor"? And if you don't have a working definition of that, what steps will you be taking towards coming up with it?

excoriator · 18分前

handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

IMO, this describes the "drama" subreddits.

raldi · 21分前

I'm sure some of you are rushing to find the Imgur link about how ripping out someone's tongue doesn't prove them wrong, and that the real answer is to engage them in debate.

But it doesn't really apply, because nobody's tongue was ripped out. The bigots have already migrated to another site, and they're doing just fine.

Shockingly, it doesn't look like the conversation going on over there in any way resembles an intellectually-honest debate on racial issues.

paulcam · 20分前

Which subreddits are being banned?

LargeSnorlax · 21分前

Out of sheer curiosity, can we get a list of specific subs that were so awful that they have to be banned immediately?

camtns · 9分前

I hope Reddit is vigilant about removing subreddits that promote and foment violence and harassment. I truly believe the site was going to become the preeminent breeding ground for hate in the U.S., if not other nations, and it is a positive step to lop that limb off before it has a chance to grow. I hope the same action will be taken quickly for subs that inevitably pop up that are launching grounds for this kind of behavior.

Goasupreme · 16分前

Why is slimgur banned from reddit ?

SweetJibbaJams · 21分前

So.... Who is getting banned?

Ughable · 19分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors

What about /r/ShitRedditSays ?!

dragonfangxl · 14分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

I dont understand. Why bother making this new tool (quarantines) if you're still going to ban subreddits? Do you not trust the effectiveness of this tool? Also is there a list of the subreddits being banned?

faghat · 18分前

Who decides who the "average redditor" would be? Is Reddit going to be polling this, for example? Will users be able to tell you what content we would like Quarantined, or will you just handpick a bunch that SRS whine about most frequently?

blanketswithsmallpox · 21分前

To those with RES, turn off night mode when reading it.

TheSandbergPrinciple · 5分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else

Really, why is /r/shitredditsays and /r/subredditdrama (basically srs in disguise) still accessible?

username3 · 18分前

"the average redditor"
Yikes

ThatRudeCanadian · 19分前

Will there be a list of the subreddits that were banned today? Will there be any previous banned subs that are brought back under quarantine?

Thanks for the update.

travisrd · 12分前

Yay another Front Page Shitfest

zachlac · 19分前

Soooooo...shadowbanning? Do you shadow ban for violation of content policy violations? At what point in the list of punishments would this fall?

MacorgaZ · 19分前

So ShitRedditSays is finally getting banned?

I_Will_be_Nice · 21分前

So which subs got banned?

thesexygazelle · 15分前

With the new push for transparency I would expect that the list of banned subreddits would be published. I feel like there is a lot of talk about transparency and community involvement but not a lot of actual transparency and the community involvement seems more for posterity's sake.

meauxfaux · 20分前

Thanks for keeping us in the loop. It's important to me to be part of this conversation.

baldrad · 14分前

Spez I am glad you are doing stuff like this but we really need you to engage with the moderators a bit more, I haven't seen you around at all and we are lacking so many tools.

You are not even saying what your plans are. When is this going to be addressed?

mcac · 19分前

Which subreddits are being banned?

FuckingNiggers2015 · 5分前

So you completely lied about r/coontown being reclassified? What a great CEO.

_--___ · 19分前

Which communities are being banned?

geekgreg · 13分前

The content guidelines refer to a harassment policy which uses the words "bully" and then "demean" as a part of harassment.

Could we get some clarification on those terms?

KATYNBESTDAYOFMYLIFE · 4分前

Reddit is dead. It's a corporate controlled propaganda mill where only approved opinions are accepted. Anyone who still uses that site is way out of touch. All the cool people use 8chan nowadays.

randonymous · 17分前

Given that legality is contextual (by jurisdiction), who's jurisdiction do we consider content on reddit a part of? Presumably San Francisco, CA, USA? So content illegal in other (non-SF) jurisdictions can legitimately be harbored here if it does not violate any of the other rules?

Drapetomania · 7分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

Great! When are SRD and SRS getting the boot?

TehAlpacalypse · 20分前

https://www.reddit.com/r/coontown/

IT'S GONE BOIS

themundanematt · 8分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors

Yet, /r/shitredditsays still exists.

Voidroth · 4分前

What will be considered "extremely offensive"?

Dracula7899 · 9分前

Mfw SRS isn't banned even though it breaks multiple rules on the list.

What a joke.

Tchocky · 19分前

a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors

This is a rather broad brush. Annoyingly broad.

Vittles_And_Libation · 7分前

"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average ~~voter~~ Redditor." --~~Winston Churchill~~ /u/spez

The_Homestarmy · 15分前

How will this affect /r/hulkhogan, brother?

synsensa · 21分前

Which communities are being banned?

TheMoralizer · 21分前

Which communities are you banning?

DdMDaniels · 9分前

/u/spez why is /r/shitredditsays still up? this is nothing but a subreddit that brigades and attacks other users?

kecos · 16分前

Like other people have said it would be nice to see a list of what's banned. Nice to see coontown is one of them though.

man_and_machine · 19分前

What is accomplished by making "quarantined" communities only available to users with a registered email address?

R3DT1D3 · 4分前

I hope that some day the rules will be upheld for ALL subs not just the politically incorrect ones.

selfabortion · 17分前

ITT: "Which communities are being banned?"

butch81385 · 20分前

Interesting approach. But I'm sure Reddit won't be happy because Reddit is never happy.

Vittles_And_Libation · 14分前

So, you banned COONTOWN. Congratulations, spaz. You're on your way to making a 'safe' platform you can possibly monetize.

COONTOWN has 200-400 upvotes for every submission, and nearly 22,000 members.

What do you think will happen next? Do you think that politically incorrect thinking will just vanish because you channeled your inner Ellen Pao?

Honestly, I like stuff that other people say is bad or wrong because it's my right to choose what I think is right.

I hope reddit crashes and burns. If you guys start monetizing this platform, I will be on Voat or 4Chan.

distancerun6 · 19分前

What about shadow banning?

Mobre · 2015-08-05T20:41:01+00:00

Can you explain the difference between these two?

We will Quarantine communities whose content would be considered extremely offensive to the average redactor.

and

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redactors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else

and how /r/coontown applies to the latter rather than the former? Because it seems that the application of who is quarantined and who is banned is completely up to the arbitrary decision of the admin rather then an explicit rule set.

kksred · 9分前

Lol. And we thought Ellen Pao was the problem. What is the next thing advertisers will find offensive I wonder.

"bastion of free speech" my ass.

Xet · 3分前

Regarding Quarantining: Would you ever quarantine a large subreddit like /r/wtf?

A community will be Quarantined on Reddit when we deem its content to be extremely offensive or upsetting to the average redditor.

One could argue that the very gorey types of pictures that appear on /r/wtf would be pretty upsetting. I know I've accidentally clicked on /r/wtf images when I temporarily disabled my own RES filters, and honestly of all things on the site, some of the stuff there is more troubling to me than discriminatory self text posts.

abedneg0 · 19分前

Today, [...] we are banning a handful of communities

Is there a list?

senorchicken · 19分前

Could we get a list of said quarantined communities?

Didalectic · 21分前

Does this mean /r/Fatpeoplehate comes back under quarantine?

DrinkerofJuice · 2015-08-05T20:41:07+00:00

Wow, this is disappointing. I'm not too upset about CoonTown being gone, but to even pretend like this is some policy update while completely ignoring other problematic subreddits that very explicitly break the rules you've outlined is so disgustingly transparent. Please just stop trying to pretend like this is anything but reddit just banning what they want to. There is zero argument under the guidelines presented to ban Coontown and not ban things like SRS. Laughable.

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