Content Policy Update

Cheech5 · 12分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else. Our most important policy over the last ten years has been to allow just about anything so long as it does not prevent others from enjoying Reddit for what it is: the best place online to have truly authentic conversations

Which communities have been banned?

slyf · 7分前

This page (https://www.reddit.com/about/alien/) says that

Remember: "reddit" is always lowercase.

But your Content Policy spells it with a capital R, has this branding changed?

TheMentalist10 · 12分前

Will you be sharing information about the communities which are Quarantined? Will moderators of those communities know if their subreddit has been affected?

Edit: Just as it's not immediately obvious, /r/Coontown has been banned

illegal_deagle · 7分前

Unfortunately it looks like SRS will continue to enjoy their harassment and downvote brigading.

CarmineCerise · 12分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

Will there be a clear list of banned subreddits?

BillW87 · 10分前

For the sake of transparency I feel like it would be best to make the list of banned communities public. With all of the concerns lately about the admins not being transparent enough, banning subs without telling us who they are seems counterproductive.

Naked_Bacon_Tuesday · 7分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else. Our most important policy over the last ten years has been to allow just about anything so long as it does not prevent others from enjoying Reddit for what it is: the best place online to have truly authentic conversations.

If you do plan to ban subs, I'm sure reddit would enjoy an itemized list of ban reasons/offenses by each sub. This shouldn't necessarily include a link or something to an example of the offense, but the list provided should be detailed enough for a reasonable person to say, "OK, yeah, that's clear enough to require the ban."

But the bans should definitely be released and reasons for them made clear.

WhiteFlight2 · 4分前

I thought you were going to provide a link with why a subreddit was banned. /r/coontown, despite being reviled amongst some users didn't appear to violate any of the rules. It also did well to enforce additional rules that places like SRS flaunt. Why was /r/coontown banned, specifically?

Facerless · 10分前

Encourages or incites violence
Threatens, harasses, or bullies or encourages others to do so

Are these going to be used against communities that are centered around the pre-existing hatred or dislike of a group or person?

I realize this is nit picking but this is still fairly vague

What constitutes encouragement or how will you decide what incites someone to action?

Demolishing · 11分前

Is involuntary pornography

How will this affect stuff like /r/amateur and /r/realgirls and /r/SluttyHalloween ?

GamersCorp · 11分前

Can you give us any examples of specific subreddits that will be quarantined?

GreyWalker · 9分前

A community will be Quarantined on Reddit when we deem its content to be extremely offensive or upsetting to the average redditor or to ourselves. The purpose of quarantining a community is to prevent its content from being accidentally viewed by those who do not wish to do so. Restrictions on a quarantined community include:

Requiring an account with a verified email address

Requiring an explicit opt-in

No custom images

Will generate no revenue, including ads or Reddit Gold

xienze · 5分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

And yet, SRS remains.

raldi · 12分前

I'm sure some of you are rushing to find the Imgur link about how ripping out someone's tongue doesn't prove them wrong, and that the real answer is to engage them in debate.

But it doesn't really apply, because nobody's tongue was ripped out. The bigots have already migrated to another site, and they're doing just fine.

Shockingly, it doesn't look like the conversation going on over there in any way resembles an intellectually-honest debate on racial issues.

dustfeather · 12分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else

Sooo... who is getting banned?

ChangloriousBastard · 10分前

Under "Enforcement", shadowbanning is not listed. I know the list is not comprehensive, but does that mean that shadowbanning will no longer be used to enforce the rules as illustrated in the updated content policy?

dragonfangxl · 6分前

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

I dont understand. Why bother making this new tool (quarantines) if you're still going to ban subreddits? Do you not trust the effectiveness of this tool? Also is there a list of the subreddits being banned?

SweetJibbaJams · 12分前

So.... Who is getting banned?

I_Will_be_Nice · 12分前

So which subs got banned?

edafade · 7分前

Subs like /r/coontown are banned but SRS is still up and running. While I didn't agree with their ideology or what they represented, you, /u/spez stated yourself, you also did not support the beliefs of /r/coontown but believed they had a place here on reddit. SRS clearly violates reddits Content "Policy" but remains unaffected.

Nothing has changed, you just put a ribbon on top.

Very disappointing.

Ughable · 10分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors

What about /r/ShitRedditSays ?!

Teh_Compass · 5分前

Quarantining is a good step from outright banning. But banning more subreddits in addition to that isn't going to solve anything.

Banning subreddits that break the TOS like harassing users and such makes sense, but you can't go and ban subreddits that don't, no matter how much people don't like them.

/r/fatpeoplehate, for example, was annoying to people but could easily be ignored. It didn't need to be banned initially. But I totally understand that it was banned for the brigading it did. I was subscribed to one of the subreddits that was being brigaded and its users harassed.

/r/coontown, for example is easily ignored and doesn't deserve to be banned, even if they are racist as shit. I hear rumors about brigading but I personally don't know enough about it. If there is evidence that they are doing something like that then by all means ban them. But just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they should be banned.

You essentially run the site and can do whatever you want. But remember what the users want.

paulcam · 11分前

Which subreddits are being banned?

mcac · 11分前

Which subreddits are being banned?

MacorgaZ · 10分前

So ShitRedditSays is finally getting banned?

dwchief · 9分前

If a user is subscribed to a Quarantined subreddit, will it still appear on their front page?

excoriator · 9分前

handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

IMO, this describes the "drama" subreddits.

ThrowGoToGo · 2分前

Still murky as all hell. TL; DR: Subs we like will stay (SRS), subs we don't like will go (FPH variants, coontown).

LargeSnorlax · 12分前

Out of sheer curiosity, can we get a list of specific subs that were so awful that they have to be banned immediately?

faghat · 9分前

Who decides who the "average redditor" would be? Is Reddit going to be polling this, for example? Will users be able to tell you what content we would like Quarantined, or will you just handpick a bunch that SRS whine about most frequently?

meauxfaux · 11分前

Thanks for keeping us in the loop. It's important to me to be part of this conversation.

Goasupreme · 7分前

Why is slimgur banned from reddit ?

username3 · 10分前

"the average redditor"
Yikes

ThatRudeCanadian · 10分前

Will there be a list of the subreddits that were banned today? Will there be any previous banned subs that are brought back under quarantine?

Thanks for the update.

blanketswithsmallpox · 12分前

To those with RES, turn off night mode when reading it.

Artalay · 7分前

Out of curiosity what constitutes the "average redditor"? And if you don't have a working definition of that, what steps will you be taking towards coming up with it?

kksred · 1分前

Lol. And we thought Ellen Pao was the problem. What is the next thing advertisers will find offensive I wonder.

"bastion of free speech" my ass.

TehAlpacalypse · 11分前

https://www.reddit.com/r/coontown/

IT'S GONE BOIS

SteelSaxon · 3分前

No supporter of Coontown but this is ridiculous

Arbitrary definitions of what gets banned and what doesn't, what makes Reddit worse and what doesn't. It won't work in the long run you'll fight a never ending war to please everyone and end up pleasing nobody. How SRS didn't make the cut for a ban since it interferes in every Sub when Coontown was relatively contained is case in point.

DdMDaniels · 1分前

/u/spez why is /r/shitredditsays still up? this is nothing but a subreddit that brigades and attacks other users?

geekgreg · 10分前

I know a bunch of people will say "Who is getting banned?" but the reality is that drawing attention to them only empowers them. Let's give it a few days and not draw the massive traffic from an /r/announcements thread into toxic communities.

_--___ · 10分前

Which communities are being banned?

synsensa · 12分前

Which communities are being banned?

Tox77 · 5分前

/r/coontown has been banned

TheMoralizer · 12分前

Which communities are you banning?

airmandan · 11分前

What does "no custom images" on quarantined communities mean?

camtns · 1分前

I hope Reddit is vigilant about removing subreddits that promote and foment violence and harassment. I truly believe the site was going to become the preeminent breeding ground for hate in the U.S., if not other nations, and it is a positive step to lop that limb off before it has a chance to grow. I hope the same action will be taken quickly for subs that inevitably pop up that are launching grounds for this kind of behavior.

Vittles_And_Libation · 5分前

So, you banned COONTOWN. Congratulations, spaz. You're on your way to making a 'safe' platform you can possibly monetize.

COONTOWN has 200-400 upvotes for every submission, and nearly 22,000 members.

What do you think will happen next? Do you think that politically incorrect thinking will just vanish because you channeled your inner Ellen Pao?

Honestly, I like stuff that other people say is bad or wrong because it's my right to choose what I think is right.

I hope reddit crashes and burns. If you guys start monetizing this platform, I will be on Voat or 4Chan.

superslab · 2分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

I doubted and I complained and I probably said none of that was ever going to happen. I apologize, and thanks for proving me wrong.

Didalectic · 12分前

Does this mean /r/Fatpeoplehate comes back under quarantine?

butch81385 · 11分前

Interesting approach. But I'm sure Reddit won't be happy because Reddit is never happy.

honestbleeps · 2015-08-05T20:32:00+00:00

Today, in addition to applying Quarantines, we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors

it seems only racist ones have been banned, which is fine, but there are other communities, such as /r/buttcoin, which exist solely to annoy other redditors -- as in, explicitly solely to annoy other redditors.

will communities that aren't "Hate speech" also be banned as long as they fit that category?

mrshatnertoyou · 1分前

It would be helpful to have a list of which communities have been quarantined so that people can have clarity on what crosses the line of extremely offensive to Reddit. I am sure there will be some that will be clear cut but others will be more up to debate. A uniformity of process and communication will help all who will be affected.

DaveBramley · 1分前

I think you might be a little bit of a cunt.

selfabortion · 8分前

ITT: "Which communities are being banned?"

BenjaminGamepedia · 11分前

Is there a list of communities that will be banned/quarantined?

thesexygazelle · 6分前

With the new push for transparency I would expect that the list of banned subreddits would be published. I feel like there is a lot of talk about transparency and community involvement but not a lot of actual transparency and the community involvement seems more for posterity's sake.

ForsakenBob · 11分前

I have to say, this looks like a really nice set of guidelines. In particular, I'm glad to see how you guys have clearly defined what you consider to be "illegal", as this was a huge point of contention in the past.

Quil0n · 5分前

Will previously banned subreddits be quarantined or will they remain banned? Also, will banning subreddits still be a possibility for admins? Outside of that though, I personally think this is a great idea, simply because it keeps the idea of free speech alive on Reddit.

baldrad · 5分前

Spez I am glad you are doing stuff like this but we really need you to engage with the moderators a bit more, I haven't seen you around at all and we are lacking so many tools.

You are not even saying what your plans are. When is this going to be addressed?

senorchicken · 11分前

Could we get a list of said quarantined communities?

musicandwords · 2015-08-05T20:31:25+00:00

I am surprised nobody has mentioned that by collecting emails for quarentined subs you are essentially creating a database of users who read content you deem 'questionable'. What does verifying the email accomplish? This seems overly broad and Orwellian.

confederacist · 11分前

banning communities hinders free speech, i dont believe that is balance, its compromising what Reddit has stood for

Kowal1488 · 11分前

Well CoonTown doesn't exist solely to annoy other redditors. We've been quarantined and have gone above and beyond any rules, in addition to keeping to ourselves entirely.

Can we have an explanation?

geekgreg · 4分前

The content guidelines refer to a harassment policy which uses the words "bully" and then "demean" as a part of harassment.

Could we get some clarification on those terms?

travisrd · 3分前

Yay another Front Page Shitfest

Wrecksomething · 9分前

We will Quarantine communities whose content would be considered extremely offensive to the average redditor.

If we're being honest, that's an extremely high bar.

Did I understand correctly, quarantines started today?

crwcomposer · 9分前

I thought reddit was supposed to be stylized in lower case. Your post and policy capitalized it multiple times.

xRollbacks · 4分前

we are banning a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors, prevent us from improving Reddit, and generally make Reddit worse for everyone else.

Drama in 3... 2... 1...

I still don't understand how you don't realize that if reddits keeps going in the direction it's going we'll just move to another website

Tetheta · 2分前

Can we get a thread somewhere tracking the actions that have been taken since your return /u/spez? I appreciate the changes but I'd like to be able to keep track and compare things.

commiecat · 12分前

Glad to see these changes start to be implemented. Thanks for your work and willingness to communicate so frequently since taking over.

NBegovich · 7分前

I understand forgoing profit from quarantined communities by not putting up ads, but how do you stop those subreddits from generating profit vis-a-vis Gold purchases?

RedVsBlue209 · 13分前

grabs popcorn

randonymous · 8分前

Given that legality is contextual (by jurisdiction), who's jurisdiction do we consider content on reddit a part of? Presumably San Francisco, CA, USA? So content illegal in other (non-SF) jurisdictions can legitimately be harbored here if it does not violate any of the other rules?

zachlac · 11分前

Soooooo...shadowbanning? Do you shadow ban for violation of content policy violations? At what point in the list of punishments would this fall?

NothingBig · 2015-08-05T20:32:10+00:00

Is there any sort of "three-strikes-and-you're-out" method for applying Quarantines? Or do the communities just get Quarantined without warning?

rkahockey · 9分前

Good, ban them. This isn't a public place. It's a website. I don't want to feel like I'm supporting something that's vile. If the "slippery slope" eventually spreads to banning something I find valuable and useful I'll just leave...

petratsarecool · 12分前

Is there a list of communities being banned?

texxx16 · 12分前

neat

subterranean37 · 7分前

Temporary or permanent suspension of accounts

Does this mean that users that are not spammers will now be informed of a ban?

BobHogan · 3分前

Can everyone stop asking the same damn question and read through the thread before you ask, yet again, which subs were banned?

ThalianeRostand · 2分前

Banning subreddits because they "annoy" redditors?

Holy shit you people are fucking pathetic, have fun with your hug-box.

cssblondie · 12分前

Can you say which communities are banned?

midir · 4分前

I believe these policies strike the right balance.

Then you shouldn't be afraid to post the list of affected subreddits.

kecos · 8分前

Like other people have said it would be nice to see a list of what's banned. Nice to see coontown is one of them though.

man_and_machine · 10分前

What is accomplished by making "quarantined" communities only available to users with a registered email address?

drumcowski · 11分前

Could you tell us which subreddits have been (or will soon be) banned/quarantined?

fingertrees · 2分前

can we talk about the fading highlights on those bulletin numbers after a mouseover?

those are SLEEK

systrom · 1分前

Fuck you nigger you lie and Alexis is rolling in his grave, you'll burn in hell for this faggot.

GayGiles · 9分前

Is there any way for mods to find out if any of the subreddits they mod have been banned/quarantined?

Dracula7899 · 2015-08-05T20:31:41+00:00

Mfw SRS isn't banned even though it breaks multiple rules on the list.

What a joke.

everest53 · 2分前

I for one welcome the level of transparency you've maintained so far. Thanks.

Tchocky · 10分前

a handful of communities that exist solely to annoy other redditors

This is a rather broad brush. Annoyingly broad.

Bamres · 4分前

Seems like a decent compromise but some will still definitely not be happy

Destituted · 8分前

Good to see /r/wtf getting quarantined

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