UPDATE 19yo Teen charged as a "sex offender" and banned from using the Internet after having intercourse with girl who lied about her age and admitted it in court to appear before same judge for a re-sentencing decision today

LetsGetMotarded · 3時間前

Good on the re-sentencing. I don't think he should be going before the same Judge, who has already shown he thinks his position is one of a moral authority rather than a legal one.

Basas · 3時間前

Why would a judge admit he was potentially incorrect when sentencing this guy? Couldn't they find another judge?

mjike · 2時間前

What bothers me about this is this quote from the judge:

That seems to be part of our culture now, Meet, have sex, hook up, sayonara. Totally inappropriate behavior. There is no excuse for this whatsoever,

and citing that as his reason for handing down the internet ban. Since when are judges allowed to enforce the law based on their own personal beliefs/morals?

I do think that all the articles are leaving out a key piece of the story. How did he end up in court in the first place? At some point a complaint against him had to be filed.

projektnitemare13 · 4時間前

really really really hate strict liability laws, i understand why they came about, but it also means there is literally no defense, none, when something like this happens. she lied to him, she admits to lying to him, its kind of hard to get around that. Almost any other crime, if you were tricked into it through deception of any kind it at least introduces extenuating circumstances that allow for some leeway in judgement. But, strict liability...doesnt matter in the slightest.

Especially when one is tricked into the crime. other part of me says this girl lied about it and has now ruined this guy's life, what penalties is she going to face?

ronswansonsmuse · 3時間前

For background, the original story can be read here.

TL/DR: Zach Anderson, 19, (formerly majoring in computer science in school) meets a girl on the adult section of "Hot or Not," he lives in Elkhart, Indiana (my hometown) and she lives in Niles, Michigan - a 30 min drive. They text for a while and decided to meet up and have sex. She says she's 17. Some time passes by and he gets arrested at work ~~for rape~~. He pleads guilty and is sentenced to 90 days in jail, 25 years on the sex offenders list, and (IIRC) for five years he cannot use any smartphones, he cannot access the internet for five years. While he's on the list he cannot go to a mall or linger near a school or playground (or any public land). His parents say because he has a 15-year-old brother, he can't even live at home any longer.

colonelpanic420 · 3時間前

This is why I only have sex with girls after I chop one of their legs off so I can count the rings to be sure.

drunken1 · 3時間前

"Judge, you haven't made one intelligent decision in the course of this trial. I don't expect one now. Knock yourself out."

-Larry Flynt

SerjoHlaaluDramBero · 2時間前

The judge Anderson faces today is the same judge who handed down his original sentence of 90 days in jail and 25 years on the sex offender registry.

So this should go just fine.

Swansonisms · 1時間前

This reminds me of a case currently going on in Canada. A sixteen year old boy is being charged with possession of child pornography and labelled a sex criminal for twenty five years because he received a sexually explicit image from his girlfriend (who is the same age). Shockingly she was not charged with production of child pornography...

girlgeek_glasses · 4時間前

People are going to need to start checking IDs and getting a disclaimer signed before getting busy.....

rgr555 · 2時間前

how do you get banned from using internet? seems impossible

seanjohn12117 · 3時間前

Banning him from the Internet is cruel and unusual punishment. It basically means he'll never be able to get a decent job. And the Internet is a necessity for so many things today, can you imagine in 20 years? I don't see how he can ever have a normal life.

orestul · 3時間前

I really hope the charge gets removed, the judge's reasoning was idiotic and the whole situation is completely unfair to the guy.

codefreak8 · 2時間前

He's never going to get a fair sentence with this judge. They should get someone else, because this judge has already proven that he isn't impartial.

Trigger93 · 4時間前

I feel bad for the 19 year old...

sydleezy · 2時間前

I don't understand why he is going before the same judge.

StupidVandals · 3時間前

Oh God why the same judge? What's immigration to Canada like?

zaturama015 · 2時間前

Now imagine how many people are victims from the bias of lots of judges

Bizarro_I_Love_You · 2時間前

I fear for the justice system when common sense is void and prison is a for profit institute.

klitchell · 2時間前

Plot twist, Judge will give stiffer sentence.

Kickedbk · 2時間前

The senator that wrote that bill and defended the judges decision should also be shamed.

highspeed_lowdrag2 · 1時間前

This judge seems to be biased against people having sex.

he also refuses to listen to testimony.

throwaway11011101 · 1時間前

Using a throwaway for obvious reasons, but I need to tell this story because maybe it will give some insight.

Before the days of ubiquitous mobile internet hookups, this situation happened to me. I was 19 and she was "18" -- something that no one questioned at all. She had moved to my area from parts unknown, so no one had her backstory. I honestly thought she was older than that when I met her. My friends knew her as well, and never thought anything of it. Who really questions a person's age anyway?

She was hot, and she was developed (she spoke like a young adult, she looked like a young adult, etc). She initiated contact, and I wasn't going to question it. I let her drive my car. She bought cigarettes for me when I asked her to pick some up. She was hanging out with me and my friends, of which I was the youngest. Ranging from 19 to 26, none of us saw anything amiss.

We saw each other for a couple weeks and then we had sex. Nothing unusual.

Then I found out that she'd been lying to us all. She was 14.

I panicked. My friends panicked. I broke it off, and she even went so far as to joke about statutory rape and later claimed she was pregnant for an entire day before she laughed and said she was joking. Eventually she moved on and so did I. Nothing happened to me.

It's been over thirteen years now. I'm still sick over it. I still worry (I have no idea what the statute of limitations is on this). On top of all of it, I have to live with the fact that it happened, and that if the police had gotten involved, my defense was simply that I didn't run a full background check on a girl who wanted to fuck me.

Something like this could have ruined my life, or sent me to prison. I've never had so much as a seat belt ticket in my life. I'm not a bad person, honest. I tell myself this all the time. Then I see a story like this and my stomach turns again, and I see it happening to someone else, and I wonder about the parallel universe where I'm a sex criminal who can't find employment and is harassed out of every neighborhood I try to live in.

Our system sucks, guys. Change it.

frissonFry · 3時間前

The court of public opinion is real. These days, it seems to be the only way to actually get justice.

xMisterShushx · 1時間前

This judge was censured by the state in 2014 for holding a woman in jail for 20 days for contempt because she used profanity in the hall way of the courthouse. He didn't even hear her say it. He overheard a clerk talking about how the woman muttered something under her breath at the bailiff's window when she was informed of the amount of the fine she was to pay for an offense. The judge ordered a deputy to find the woman and bring her to the courtroom where he sentenced her to ten days for contempt. In ten days, she was brought back to him for re-sentencing on the original charge and he gave her another 10 days. The ACLU got involved and their complaint got him censured by the state. This asshole has a habit of preaching Bible verses from the bench and throwing the book at people because he disapproves of their lifestyle or beliefs. I'm a cop and as much as I appreciate judges and the often difficult decisions they have to make, this piece of shit is applying the most insane interpretations of the law I've ever heard of and causing undue hardship for people guilty of crimes. Yes you should pay a penalty for a crime, but this is ridiculous. Fuck this guy. He's up for re-election in 2016. Do what you need to do people of Michigan.

BeerDrinkinGreg · 3時間前

I'm more concerned with "appearing before the same judge". Judges do not like their decisions being appealed. Especially when popular opinion and common sense say they are completely in the wrong. ("That's what's wrong with society today, kids meeting on the internet and hooking up. I don't like what people do, so i'm gonna fuck up your life in particular")

I would really worry about this judge going the other way and sentencing him to serious time. He did plead guilty, if anyone remembers. He shouldn't have plead guilty to anything. It's hard to get a sentence adjusted when you do admit guilt.

Jewel_332211 · 3時間前

The petition still needs 30,000 sign-ups. You can sign it here: https://www.change.org/p/justice-for-zachery-anderson Share on your social media!

DrFaustPhD · 2時間前

Its really horrible the kid has to go through this at all. All parties that were actually involved, including the girls mom, stated the girl lied about her age the boy shouldn't be punished for doing something he had every reason to believe was perfectly legal. For a judge to give a sentence for what's clearly a position of "moral superiority" in a legal matter is pretty sickening. If he doesn't clear the kid of his legally binding moral judgment he deserves every bit of shit storm that will come his way.

JPGnopic · 2時間前

How does one get banned from the Internet?!

TroyDangles · 2時間前

If this kid had come from an affluent home and had just killed a few people with a car or something instead of having consensual sex with someone who told him they were legal age it would all be ok right now.

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