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[–]zeaaaaaTR 4725 62ポイント63ポイント  (7子コメント)

Please don't remove this mods

PLS

[–]BogleezHog ridaaaaa! 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'll gild this if it doesn't get removed within 2 days. RemindMe! 2 days

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[–]StopReadingMyUserLoading... 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

RemindMe! 2 hours to take a shit.

[–]Thisismyfinalstand [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Wait, you mean OP or Zeaaaaa's comment on the thread?

[–]GuitarMan8793 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mods can't even get their shit togeather. Unsubscribing.

[–]toastt_ghost 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

its a shame it has come to this

[–]hanzes 39ポイント40ポイント  (1子コメント)

isn't it nice that a mod who hasn't posted here in 1 year is still a mod and can overrule anything because "wahh you didn't consult me despite the fact I never responded to your messages, now I look bad because I haven't done jack shit for the sub, UNMODDED"

and another mod hasn't posted here in 6 months

[–]Ben189[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

yup that's what happened

[–]HS007 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have mostly leeched this subreddit and not interacted much, but I have always found you to be nice and helpful Ben. It is a shame that it had to come to this. This was a nicely growing sub, and hopefully it will continue to be this way. Good luck in your endeavor!

[–]bballdude53 11ポイント12ポイント  (14子コメント)

I may be wrong about this but it seems like the only way to actually have change would be to disband the RCS as is. They could reform under a different name but have rules that actually make sense.

[–]Ben189[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (13子コメント)

well so many clans have left that now the RCS is strictly for casual, social clans and that's fine

The RWCS is being set up for the war scene and is in no way affiliated with the RCS

[–]lucideye 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

But, will RWCS be allowed to have a presence here on the sub? That is a big issue that stopped other clan systems from successfully forming here on reddit. The newer players and those that are not as active as others, will never know about anything other than RCS. This is a perfect opportunity to separate the people that run clan systems and the sub moderators. They are two different things that need to be run differently. This is especially true if the mods do not care about the game anymore, why do they have any say on the way the clan system is run?

[–]Ben189[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably not as we split from the RCS and don't want any ties with the current mods.

Having RCS leaders as mods is fine, as long as they don't dominate the number of mods - ie less than half

As for me - my clan came first and so I said a happy goodbye to the RCS which is no lore a place for any clan of any level above 'filthy casual!

[–]AdminisitratorD3 - Knights of SRB 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

do you have a list of recent clans that left?

[–]Ben189[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Not an official list but we are around 30

Although some prospective RWCS clans will remain in the RCS for now then leave at a later date

If the clan wiki page actually is updated then maybe we can see who got out

[–]ibaad 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Can clans that don't have "Reddit" in their name join the RWCS? We have a great lvl 6 clan, but never joined RCS because of all the stupid rules/application.

[–]Ben189[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

TBD at a later date

[–]ibaad 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Okay. Please just keep in mind that there are a lot of active, war-focused clans out there searching for a community like what the RWCS is proposing. We'd love to contribute, and it is sad if only a name is what prevents us from joining. Thanks for all your efforts, Ben, and best of luck getting this off the ground. You have my full support.

[–]Ben189[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

we are very aware and it will be discussed

[–]BoratkanReddit Invictus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I am sure things will be very different from what we were used to with the RCS, the talk about not enforcing things like name is there and I'm sure our new mods will do the right thing ;)

[–]culdeus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The entire name thing is stupid. I'm in a fair play clan that would love to get involved in a network, but no way we abandon our wins and level just to start back at level 0 with reddit in our name, especially in light of how poorly run RCS was.

[–]jrad151 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Same with our clan. It's hard to find committed players but our clan name doesn't have reddit in it

[–]lucideye [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The Reddit Alliance clans do not care about the name, shield color, feeders, stupid nazi rules and homosexuality.

[–]Hiel0sHielos 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

I would love this, but unfortunately, I don't think our mods will go through with it. After this whole hissy fit they have put up, there's no way they will see reason now. Seems the best bet is to just make a new sub at this point.

[–]Ben189[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

i agree but gotta voice the opinion

[–]BoratkanReddit Invictus 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if they don't the pressure they're going to get when everybody reads what Ben and Sauron are saying here is going to make a dent on their pride (if they have any left).

This is the voice of a big part (if not the whole) of the COC Reddit community, RCS or not.

Having inactive and bad mods removed should be done in any subreddit regardless.

[–]Giraffe_Penis 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

mod not god

[–]The_Black_Inside 30ポイント31ポイント  (53子コメント)

eloquently put..

It would be nice to have some mods that actually care about the sub..

[–]Ben189[S] 37ポイント38ポイント  (48子コメント)

well they had 3 - Sauron, Zenith and Myself........

[–]zeaaaaaTR 4725 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

Emphasis on had

now we are stuck with two head mods who don't even play the game(not talking about Flammy)

[–]The_Black_Inside 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

*from now on..

sorry..

[–]AdminisitratorD3 - Knights of SRB 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

what happened to kattrinray? she is also removed

[–]Ben189[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

She stepped downburst before this shitstorm so wasn't directly involved - although was not for me and sauron

[–]kattrinray 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

All that modmail...all that wiki updating...all the redundant posts removed...I like to think I cared about the sub.

And can you please remove my actual name from the post and replace it with my ign or whatever. Thank you.

[–]Ben189[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The entire community would like to thank Zenith and Baegel all for their work over the year(s) they have put into the sub and the RCS but it is time for a change of direction.

[–]kattrinray [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In response to that last answer.

I'm sorry if you were upset.

[–]SirAdrian0000 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

To be fair, other mods did care, at least a year ago when i still played.

[–]ImJustLurkingBro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And that actively play the game.

[–]98smithg -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Of course we all want mods who care, but I think it is important that you don't confuse a low profile with not caring. Part of the reason this sub works is that most of the mods have a very laissez faire hands off approach to modding which allows free flowing discussion and posts which are a bit controversial or near the knuckle.

The last thing this sub needs is twenty mods who filter through every comment and post to check for correct content.

[–]papaismurf13 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

They have been deleting posts alright lately. Not exactly laissez faire.

[–]Mr_Smiley_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This sub isn't working. It's filled with brag-spam to the point where it's nearly unreadable.

[–]BuggleGum 9ポイント10ポイント  (13子コメント)

Why do I get the same feeling from the remaining mods as I get from people asking for free co? Begging for the title but not putting in the effort/donations.

I don't know Ben or Sauron to say if they'd be good or not, but at least they're trying from what I've seen.

[–]Ben189[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (12子コメント)

At the very least we have been active - just see the SOTS post

[–]BuggleGum 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

I agree, that's why I said at least you're trying. Is the RWCS sub going to have the same mods?

[–]Ben189[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

Nonononono we aren't in anyway RCS

Me and Sauron will be though along with red cloud, papo and a few others

[–]BuggleGum 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

Then that I'm looking forward to.

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yay

[–]DrD0ak 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Good luck to you guys! I surprised you weren't banned yet like Hulk. As he brought up yesterday, the RCS should be separate from the CoC sub anyway...

Funny how a great concept, RWCS, can get muddled up in bureaucracy.

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Lol ban me? Would they dare!!!

Love /u/hulkified88 /u/thehulkfiles - straight up vids that got it spot on

[–]DrD0ak 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I like the Hulk too; I actually didn't know he was banned until I watched his video yesterday talking about this whole mess.

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Any ban over a day or 2 was way too much

Rlight took it to the admins to get him banned

[–]johnsabossTh10 Lv127 TR3222 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

We lost all the good mods in /u/yesiac s shit storm. Now we're stuck with nazis.

[–]Ben189[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

yup

[–]BuggleGum 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you want nazis? This is how you get nazis.

[–]owenjb95 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

Good post Ben. We all really appreciate the work you've done. However, I think we may just need to completely estrange ourselves from the RCS and start again.

[–]Ben189[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

That is happening with the launch of the RWCS today

[–]owenjb95 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sweet. I look forward to it. Good job on everything, the founding clans of the RWCS appreciate your integrity!

[–]TotallyNotCool [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Unless you're opening very soon, I would suggest changing the message on the splash screen:

Finally, the RCS has allowed a subdivision of war clans and casual clans, albeit by not allowing the good clans to develop and forcing them out of the system to save their own game. This sub will be used to organise the syncs, hunting and coordinating wars. It will also be used to share war news and encourage communication between the top Reddit attackers.

[–]Ben189[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

is later today soon enough?

message is true - thank the RCS for forcing it through

[–]lurkrastinator 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

At the end instead of the sign "Ben and Sauron" it should read "Ben, Sauron, Zenith and all the Clash of Clans subreddit". Heck we should start a petition... Whos up for the task?

[–]Ben189[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Get me names of a load of people and just maybe

[–]KBowBow 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Use this name bud. This is ridiculous

[–]parkerlievsay 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Very professionally, calmly, and intellectually(?) written. I am with you in believeing that there is no way for this subreddit to grow as a community, unless these inactive, ungrateful, and uncaring mods are removed.

Also the idea of bringing someone outside of the RCS to be a mod is a smart choice. That will make sure at least one person will be able to mod strictly based off the rules outlined in the sidebar.

There is so much more I could comment about, but I have no need to. Very well stated Ben, I look forward to the future of the RCS, hopefully.

[–]Ben189[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

thanks!

Yup the RCS had so much hate that there was no point continuing to force it on the sub so may as well tramway them the same as non RCS and get more traffic to the RCS sub

[–]friggoffcocfriggofflahee 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know that rhos demands were simple. Reinstate you and sauron, or we are gone. They didn't reinstate so we left to get the RWCS up and running. It's gonna be a much better environment for clans that are war focused. Thanks for all the help in getting the ball rolling even tho the way it happened wasn't what we had intended.

[–]Ben189[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good for you

Did we want a split like this? Probably not, although opinions were divided

We're we forced to through the actions of the mods? Absolutely

[–]qu3L 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

We need a sub with less shitposts, dank memes etc. I want proper discussion.

[–]papaismurf13 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Just 3 days ago we thought Sauron was a bad mod and maybe he was but compared to what has happened since I think I would vote on him for President of the World. Nothing is bad enough that it can't get worse!

[–]Ben189[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

sauron isnt bad, he just dint think through a couple of responses - he is human(ish)

[–]papaismurf13 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

We all are. I think his biggest mistake was to try to defend other mods actions and opinions which were very unpopular. He showed some loyalty, took the heat and got thrown under the bus as a reward for that.

[–]Ben189[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

yeah but that's what we should all have done for each other - and did do until recent dolchstoss

[–]DMTryp 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

may the odds be ever in your favor

[–]aashish2137 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Among the enthusiastic blame game that has been happening over this sub, probably this comment will be ignored but here I go anyway:

While the COC sub is being revamped, the members should focus on segregating RCS from the COC sub. The mods should not be common. There can be a RCS representative mod but the mod team should reflect the COC sub, not the RCS.

[–]Ben189[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

i don't think it matters what clan system the mods are from, just that no clan system dominates the mods (50% +) and no clan system is treated better in the main sub

Easy, simple fix

So if there were 8 mods and 3 were RCS that would be fine as they don't ever get a majority

[–]Omertron 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Disclaimer: Not part of RCS or any other clan system.

Just to add one point and that is "active mods" as has been witnessed recently, having 3 active and 8 inactive mods does nothing for the system of governance.

[–]Ben189[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Having 5 inactive mods was shit

[–]aashish2137 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yes, that's fine as well. Currently most mods are/were from RCS and RCS members roamed around COC sub like a mob. RCS war announcement and result posts were upvoted to the top page and overlooked by the mods. When questioned, they'd just say, its a Reddit COC sub and we are RCS, what do you expect?

We just want a sub were COC is the priority and RCS is a part of it, not the other way around. And I'm afraid the sub is soon going to divide between this shit sub and /r/rwcs and people who enjoyed COC sub without being a part of RCS will be the only sufferers of this mess.

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

RWCS will obviously have the focus of the system but it will also be used for other war clans to set up syncs, have a say on the war community etc

We won't spam the RWCS or force it to be the only attraction but we aren't making a new clash sub for everyone

[–]aashish2137 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

We won't spam the RWCS or force it to be the only attraction but we aren't making a new clash sub for everyone

That will kill the COC sub on Reddit because lurkers will still stay here and if someone makes a new sub, the audience will stay divided. You guys have the momentum and mass support. If you're making RWCS, make a new sub too.

[–]sylfy 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'd be happy for the RWCS sub to develop as a war-focused sub.

The memes, the brag posts, the 1m loot grab and all other junk can stay here. We'll all be better off for it.

[–]aashish2137 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes but it will be a RCS sub and RCS members will treat non-RCS members differently. Proof in case is this sub.

[–]R15K [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hope to god this actually happens.

[–]NHaney 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm not knowledgable into how reddit works in terms of creating new subs, but how hard would it be to create a new subreddit titled RWCS or similar? I understand it would not get the traffic this sub gets;however, it would likely have a much higher quality of user and attract the kind of players that war clans want.

[–]itsmekyle02 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

RWCS is already in the works. It's currently a private sub and is being opened to the public today

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

We are already on it

The traffic would be far lower but only of like minded players so the memes would be funny and not spammed everywhere.....

[–]qu3L 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I want a sub doesn't only focuses on the clan system.. Just like this one, but with less shitposts and proper discussion.

[–]NHaney [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sounds great, looking forward to that.

[–]cohenj14 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sorry I casually am on this sub reddit what does RCS and RWCS stand for?

[–]cannibalcalypso 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

When you have a mod team, and only a couple are pulling their weight, it makes it difficult to get shit done the right way.

[–]jimbo831 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Especially when they ones who aren't pulling their weight throw hissy fits when the ones who are actually do something because they weren't included in the process because they refused to respond to anyone.

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Absolutely

We posted links, @nthem in groupme, bumped links, asked for response and NOTHING

[–]cannibalcalypso 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The worst kind of mods are the ones that only show up when there's controversy.

[–]Ben189[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

well there are 3 of them here now

[–]TarlusTarlus - Sagittarii, TH 10 and Fragdyn - WE FOKIN LOST!!, TH 9 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Sticky this ple... Oh wait.

[–]Underpantz_NinjaCo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Checking to see if I can still post here.

Edit: Holy Shit I can!

So uh, yeah the mods dun goofed.

SOURCE: Watched the mods dun goof while it happened in real time.

[–]CoachingPikachu 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

This post will more than likely be removed and honestly tbis whole situation is just shitty. From the state of the sub thread post from the users in there show that you guys sauron in particular is suspectible to speaking hastily and aggressively.

You guys need a filter on whats being said rather than getting caught in the moment of the issue and posting without being subjected to bias.

I agree the current mod team is doing poorly in handling the situation but beyond that you guys also have a history of poor actions

[–]KBowBow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

All the mods speak as a unit based on hidden conversation. Standard leadership. With a team you have to at least publicly appear to be in unity and agreement. Now that they aren't mods, they have the freedom to speak their minds

[–]infiniteloop33Drago 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

After the despicable and dishonest actions of the mods over the past few days, I'd rather see you guys stay gone and focus on the RWCS. let this sub and its lying, power hungry mods die a silent death.

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could not agree more

The offer was there from both myself and Sauron - let us save it or we will jump ship to something we can stop turning into this shitty mess

We were refused...... GG caisey

[–]KBowBow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would rather the useful mods be reinstated than see everyone leave. Sauron and Ben are good people

[–]Vysilx 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

They also just deleted the posts asking why Ben and Sauron were removed without explanation. They don't learn their fucking lesson do they. Anyway, you have my full support.

[–]Ben189[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

lololol

no transparency at all

[–]Garglemybawls12 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh man when a mod finally logs on this is getting so deleted 3 weeks from now.

[–]Ben189[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

sorry i thought as a mod you logged on once a month.......

[–]angrybane [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Can we just make an adults CoC subReddit and clan system?

[–]smuttyinkspot 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Is there a TL;DR version?

I'm curious, but I lack the background/motivation to make heads or tails of the super long Google doc...

[–]Ben189[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

TL;DR version is current mods removed me and sauron as they weren't involved in a decision when inactive for a week with no prior reason given and they got pissy when it was 95% done and posted.......

yeah so theres that

[–]smuttyinkspot 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

So I read the doc and still I have to ask: is there a better tldr version?

I'm getting downvoted for wanting a TLDR after going through the sub, picking through what details are out there, and being unable to discern anything more than that some mods did something with RCS rules that other mods didn't like and now posts are getting deleted and mods are getting unmodded and so on and so forth.

All of the top posts on this sub have something to do with this drama, yet none of them provide any real insight into what's going on.

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

the problem is there isn't a short version

go watch these on youtube as they explain it bludey well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKdL_QxyYjQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNEsCP0njKQ

[–]smuttyinkspot 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's no version shorter than 25 minutes of Reddit politics on YouTube?

Not trying to be a dick, and I'm on your side insofar as I'm on the side of those in favor of progress and transparency, but throw me a bone here...

[–]KBowBow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You could probably read the doc in 5-10 minutes. If you want to know a complete story then read the post. Very short and succinct for all the info in it

[–]NeoGoku 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can someone share the information here... google docs are blocked in my work place...?!

[–]parkerlievsay 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

State of the Mods Rlight, The community, Sauron and I believe that it is time for a large overhaul in the mod department as quite honestly most of the mods aren’t even active and those who are have made some serious problems. Of the 8 in mod chat, only 2 (Sauron and I) gave any serious responses and genuine effort into addressing Red’s proposals from the start until the end and that wasn't good enough. The SOTS post went up and again Sauron and I were the only contributors - kathy did a bit but has since stepped down. Again this just isn’t good enough. In regards to the drama: After you clearly gave Sauron and I the option to progress with the RWCS in the way we saw fit we did so. Since mod chat had been a complete ghost town and mod sub posts received little to no attention, despite replies being promised on multiple occasions, we worked everything out with the other leaders who had shown high interest levels and were prepared to put in the 100+ hours required. We followed this up with a sticky post as we were finalising the last details in regards to the application and verification process - something that we weren’t able to finish as a result of the drama. We fully accept that this may have been too soon based on the leaders’ reactions, however the plan was SO welcomed by the community that is undoubtedly the correct path to pursue. These issues can still be addressed with the leaders alongside ALL of Red’s proposals to ensure that whilst feeders are limited, everyone can benefit to a high degree from the reformed RCS. Both us and the community saw Yesiac’s actions, taken behind our backs whilst we were away/asleep to be far worse than our lack of consultation with inactive mods. Thus Yesiac’s actions caused quite frankly a shit storm on the sub that once seen, Sauron and I had no intention or will to stop but can calm and fix retrospectively - and still could. Whilst Yesiac may feel justified that she was ‘out of the loop’ - when you get no responses all week, despite being promised them, we have no sympathy. Coleman also brought up the point that we weren’t functioning as a team - 100% accurate as only Sauron and I were active enough to give feedback and discuss ideas thus when there are no people, there is no team. We may have excused you Rlight for you notified the entire mod team of your absence in advance, as should be expected. However your reaction to the situation was pretty poor and you took it to personally attacking myself with information I gave you about when I was inactive for very personal family reasons - BECAUSE I TRUSTED YOU and wanted you to know what was up and why I was gone. The entire community would like to thank Zenith and Baegel all for their work over the year(s) they have put into the sub and the RCS but it is time for a change of direction. With the sub in a state of disarray and the attempts to censor the situation until it 'goes away' clearly not going to work, something needs to be done. Therefore we would like a rehaul of the mods with Yesiac, Coleman, Nick AND yourself to step down and be replaced by myself and Sauron. This would be followed up by allowing Sauron and I to bring in new mods to replace them that will be active in developing both the sub and the RCS. Initially, we would like to bring on Red Cl0ud, and ask Zenith to return from her break - should she now want to after formally saying she has cut ties with you. Additionally, someone from outside the RCS whose reddit names is Cullly. If this doesn’t take place, the sub will continue to be a place where the mods shut down all 'dangerous' opinions and the community CANNOT grow with a mod team does not make changes to become the responsive team that it should be. Given all the communications from clans over the past 48 hours, it is clear that the 20% or more of the RCS clans that simply left the RCS over a failure to make these needed changes to the mod team will continue to rise as they look elsewhere for an environment in which they are respected and given the opportunity to thrive. Continuing as you are will hurt the sub and the clan system as a whole and I think everyone can agree that is the last thing anyone wants to happen. I hope you agree and are willing to help drive these changes. Ben and Sauron

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

its in google docs so it never gets deleted by nazis

[–]nickadinNick - Atomic Bullies 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm surprised how much drama there is in the RCS. I don't really follow anything regarding it, but it seems you and Sauron are completely in your right. Maybe you two should make a new subreddit, I'm pretty sure people will follow you.

[–]Left4dinner [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Im out of the loop of things within this subreddit. Could someone explain what happened here?

[–]infiniteloop33Drago [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Sauron and Ben posted a sticky announcing the Reddit War Clan System. yesiac and her minion theviking555 became butthurt that they weren't getting the spotlight and removed the sticky, replacing it with some really poorly written excuse about "technical difficulties." The following day, with the blessing of rlight apparently, yesiac her lapdog/white knight demodded Sauron and Ben. When the community asked for answers, every single post was deleted.

As a result, several top Reddit war clans have officially left the Reddit Casual System to become founding members of the Reddit War Clan System. Founding members include: Alchemy, Bandits, Dark, Demons, Mist, Omega, mOmicron, Phheonix, Rho, Rise, Ronin, and Xenon.

Ben and Sauron have been working in overdrive to get the RWCS subreddit up and running as soon as today.

[–]BoratkanReddit Invictus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Invictus wants a place as founding member also! /r/ben189 please

[–]Left4dinner [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

damn, that sucks. hate it when internet mods get sore about something and then attempt to cover things up and feign innocence to things. Reminds me of gamergate and how everyone went whiteknight and censored anyone who BM'd that one woman who slept with reviewers in order to get higher reviews.

[–]Ben189[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

all posts have been deleted by the mods

[–]xeonrage [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Until a mod of any flavor cuts and stopa encouraging all the bullshit posts out of this sub.. It will be a mess no matter what.

P.S. check out my loot

[–]FeedThePoro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I know Flammy has been inactive but looking at his account he still posted something last month (in a different subreddit though). Could someone possibly contact Flammy to help with this? Can't he remove the problematic mods after being provided enough context?

[–]aeroaggie2003 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've seen and heard both "sides," I don't know what the truth is. Sometimes mistakes and miscommunication pile on to bad timing and a shit storm ensues. I do know that making knee-jerk decisions (both sides) without understanding the full context is a recipe for drama....x1,443 if it's on the internet.

Any of you who are leaders (clan, mods, work, family, girl scouts, whatever) know that you will never, ever make a single decision that everyone will like. You try to get all the information to make good decisions, but you also sometimes have to react quickly and sort things out later. And sometimes you make the wrong decision and end up with fallout to fix.

I don't have a horse in the race, a dog in the hunt, a bird in my hand, or bourbon in my coffee. I'm just saying - the internet will internet. Sometimes an esploding reddit is a catalyst for positive change. I'm content to wait and see - it doesn't impact me or how I lead my clan at all.

But from watching other gaming communities split over some wrong (real or perceived), I will suggest reigning in the blame and negativity. I used to visit two subs (different game, different split). One was informative, and the other turned into an echo chamber of hostility toward the first. Only one is thriving, and now even has active participation from the developers of the game.

As a player with a war-minded focus, I'm looking forward to the new sub. But I'm also hesitantly pessimistic about the potential drama and negativity that may overshadow the positives, based on the pile-on that I've seen in the past 24 hours.

Just an observation.

[–]Ben189[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

PICK ME I'M A GIRL SCOUT!!!

put the whiskey in the porridge

fuck the drama - thats what this sub is for

[–]TylerTheSandwich 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

ELI5 why Ben and Sauron don't just start another Sub. Not that hard, I'd subscribe to that one.

[–]Ben189[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

/r/RWCS

[–]TylerTheSandwich 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

I was referring to a general clash sub. Not a Clan System sub.

[–]Ben189[S] [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

hmmmmmmm

ine for the war community could be considered

[–]TylerTheSandwich [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

You could make it a more serious sub- specifically for war. For example: r/RWCSForums or something along those lines.

[–]Ben189[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

under consideration - just want to get the RWCS sorted first

[–]_DuskyyyCode Enigma [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Agreed...something with less memes and less "million loot club" posts.

[–]MrKillaDolphin [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I think the best thing is just have a sticky dedicated to this like this. Memes and other spam only go in that sticky, plain and simple. If someone posts a meme or other "spam", get the post removed and notified that it belongs in the dedicated sticky. Maybe I'm crazy and its a bad idea, but I'm sure a lot of people come to find things like that

[–]_DuskyyyCode Enigma [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Agreed! I think it's fine on a subreddit like this but having an option to go to a sub that is solely based on war and strategy would be Heaven for me.

[–]MrKillaDolphin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm just gonna sit and watch how /r/RWCS unfolds. If it's too a degree where is a lot war and not a general Clash sub (I don't know yet, it's not even up yet and hasn't been able to be determined what'll come out of it from the community, I'm just gonna try and recreate this sub, but do things the way Ben & the others would've done exactly, with the idea that the more serious subs like that also appeal to the casuals

[–]DloatDamien 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are

[–]culdeus 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Start another sub. Today if not sooner.

[–]Ben189[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

/r/rwcs going live hopefully today

[–]TarlusTarlus - Sagittarii, TH 10 and Fragdyn - WE FOKIN LOST!!, TH 9 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You should have plenty of time to make a "new subreddit emerges" post before the current mods get around to banning you.

[–]Ben189[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

i can do what i want when i want until they /u/thehulkfiles me

[–]CheeseFiles [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Forgive my ignorance, but what would be wrong with just making the RWCS a separate entity? Where Ben and Sauron would be the mods?

[–]speaksmymind [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Meh.. it's replacing bad mods with other bad mods. None of you were really good to begin with.