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[–]linesreadlines[S] 1115ポイント1116ポイント  (366子コメント)

Yes, one of the worst things about modern liberal society is the thoughcrime mentality...even here on Reddit

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[–]NoblePineapples 309ポイント310ポイント  (54子コメント)

Soo.. lynch the mods?

[–]esuohe 51ポイント52ポイント  (3子コメント)

As is tradition

[–]hiphopapotamus1 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

What a great day for Reddit and therefore the world.

[–]rabidmonkey1163 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Princess will of course scrape the pudding off the prince's arms, thus symbolizing their union.

[–]Innanetape 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The prince is now ripping off one of the princess's arms as is tradition.

[–]safariG 214ポイント215ポイント  (44子コメント)

So...blame Ellen Pao/admins too?

Edit: and Obama

[–]1silkyjohnson1 109ポイント110ポイント  (38子コメント)

Blame Canada.

[–]dewidubbs 68ポイント69ポイント  (30子コメント)

Whoa now, sorry but we never did anything to cause any issues here.

[–]linesreadlines[S] 199ポイント200ポイント  (20子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/9RWdYws.png

We're on to you Canada.

[–]chaanach 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

homofascist mods are gonna kill you

[–]bloody_duck 6ポイント7ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'm high. Let's just get that out of the way. But I just had the thought of, what if Canada DID side with Russia/China/Iran/Best Korea in a war against the U.S. and attacked us...probably because we got caught being super duper mega pricks, or something. Canada would probably attack cities like Portland and Seattle first.

Should I be scared?

[–]uzername_ic 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Im also high. Lets just get that out of the way also. But yes.

[–]bloody_duck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy fuck dude. Can you imagine?

[–]meowfaceman 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not really related, but reminded me of this: https://youtu.be/_EjPiw0_iIQ?t=4m21s

[–]bloody_duck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha that's on the level

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    [–]NoblePineapples 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As an Albertain.. yeah that Alberta oil is a little hard to obtain at the moment. It's not like it's not there but no one wants to invest into something that they wont make a profit from with the whole oil drop and what not. Life is shit in Alberta if you are in the oil fields.

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      [–]drjacksahib 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

      We must blame them and cause a fuss/Before someone thinks of blaming us

      [–]dewey2100 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Apologized by third word, Canadian checks out.

      [–]lookingforapartments 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Only your hate speech laws the religious advocated...

      [–]JWattage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You fucked your uncle yesterday. So there's that...

      [–]Cmrade_Dorian 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      With all their hockey hullabaloo!

      [–]karmichoax 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      sorry

      [–]Unicorns-and-Glitter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It seems that everything's gone wrong since Canada came along!

      [–]captaincanada84 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Hey, what did I do?

      [–]SmokeySaysWhoaThere 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      All I said was that Canadian beer sucks!

      [–]Timbo2702 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They're not even a real country anyway

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        [–]Atacama98 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        -( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╯╲___卐卐卐卐 Don't mind me just taking my mods for a walk

        [–]PitchforkEmporium 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Someone called?

        [–]SillyDodo 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Hope they have leads in their wills

        [–]NoblePineapples 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I've been playing way too much Town Of Salem.

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          [–]everythingisarepost 41ポイント42ポイント  (74子コメント)

          I am so fucking curious to know what happened. I even attempted to ask why through a post but obviously it didn't have a year on it so it was taken down. Idk man. Documentaries has gone to shit.

          [–]kromozone 92ポイント93ポイント  (12子コメント)

          These guys showed up - https://i.imgur.com/iBxe0j8.png

          Mass reporting spam until the mods just deleted everything.

          [–]hak_21 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

          Wtf. This shit is so annoying. So they are pro Isreal I assume? And downvoted any comments against Isreal? Do you know where I can learn more about those groups? Pretty interesting how they can limit your opinion by only exposing you to the stuff they want you to know...

          [–]chaanach 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

          there's plenty of downvote groups in the other direction, too. It's a messy topic and I wouldn't blame mods for pre-emptively nuking a comment thread

          [–]hak_21 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Yeah of course. I just don't think the other direction has as much resources, plus Reddit is mostly pro Palestine anyways. The money they are giving is quit a lot too. If 100 people do whatever they ask them, they will give a $1000 a day. For what? Telling people what to think? Those people have an agenda and have the resources to pull it off.

          [–]niceworkthere 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It's a fake. The clearest sign was that the person purported to be in Tel Aviv on Skype, yet would not respond when talked to in Hebrew.

          [–]firebird50 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          it's a good thing that ad isn't in Germany

          [–]Paravin 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          That's GREAT pay, holy shit.

          [–]Off_The_Hook 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          That's fucked up. And sad...

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            [–]linesreadlines[S] 159ポイント160ポイント  (35子コメント)

            I am so fucking curious to know what happened.

            http://i.imgur.com/KQdQvfP.gif

            [–]masheo 26ポイント27ポイント  (15子コメント)

            Basically Israel was under attack from multiple Arab nations, one of them being Egypt, who were and still are a close ally of the United States of America. Long story short the Israelis attempted to blow the USS Liberty out of the water. Two theories at why are a.) oh shit wrong ship b.) The U.S. may or may not have been providing intelligence to the Egyptians and the Israelis did not take kindly to that.

            [–]Iam_TheHegemon 75ポイント76ポイント  (10子コメント)

            The third theory being that it was a false flag operation they were going to try to pin on the Egyptians to draw America into things.

            [–]herefromyoutube 41ポイント42ポイント  (6子コメント)

            Ding.

            thats like mossad 101.

            do it and blame it on your enemies.

            [–]yoss250 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Well Israel did do that in another instance. Except it wasn't the USS Liberty, but the bombing of American interests throughout Egypt in 1954. They tried to pin it on the Muslim Brotherhood and the Egyptian Government. They were found out and the Israeli Defense Minister was forced to resign. AKA the Lavon Affair.

            Some more info: Basically, the US was getting too close to Nasser for Israel's liking. As a result of the new relationship, Britain was increasingly in a position to remove their troops from the Suez Canal. Israel didn't want Egypt to have control the canal and threaten them from the Sinai. The plan backfired and Israel became blacklisted for a while within the US government. In addition, this gave Nasser the basis to nationalize the canal and force the British out. In retaliation, the British, French, and Israelis planned an operation to take back the canal for the British and the Sinai for the Israelis. It went incredibly well and they almost achieved their secondary objective of decimating Egypt's military capabilities, but they didn't account for the US and the USSR intervening. Within a month of the operation, the British, french, and Israelis were forced to withdraw from the Suez. This later became known as the Suez Canal Crisis.

            EDIT: Not PM, but the defense minister.

            [–]---nobody 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You left out an important part:

            On March 30, 2005 Israel publicly honored the surviving operatives, and President Moshe Katsav presented each with a certificate of appreciation for their efforts on behalf of the state, ending decades of official denial by Israel.

            [–]beleca 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Anyone who thinks this is hyperbole or doesnt happen in general (or in the US for that matter) should Google Emad Salem, the guy who recorded his FBI handlers admitting they provided the materials to make the bomb to the 1993 WTC bombing terrorists

            And also Operation Gladio. It was official NATO policy to commit terror attacks and blame them on boogeymen in Cold War Italy for various political purposes

            [–]Boatgunner 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Theory A is bunk because you literally cannot mistake an American ship for anything else.

            [–]mypurplelighter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            "attempted"

            [–]NotHyplon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Two theories at why are a.) oh shit wrong ship b.) The U.S. may or may not have been providing intelligence to the Egyptians and the Israelis did not take kindly to that.

            C) The crew were witnessing Israeli's shooting unarmed Egyptian PoW's ("Body of Secrets" Jim Bamfords book on the NSA)

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              [–]Tb0n3 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

              Something something jews and 9/11.

              [–]RIP_BerthaChampagne 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

              It's crazy to think all jews were behind 911. It was Mossad.

              [–]RealityCheck777 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Inside work, yes. Mossad, no.

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                [–]DaHolk 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                If your body has made a move, it's not a thought crime any more.

                I really don't get why people keep confusing what a "thought crime" is. It's not illegal to THINK anything about the third Reich nor Hitler.

                You don't get sanctioned for what you think. You get sanctioned for what you do.

                [–]ademnus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Shh your facts get in the way of his liberal-bashing.

                [–]malosaires 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                True, this is political expression, not just a thought. It's easier to conflate them if from the US, as both are protected by the constitution.

                [–]cc81 228ポイント229ポイント  (145子コメント)

                I think entitlement is a bigger problem with modern society. People think that the world not only need to hear what they say but that they have the right to say those things on other peoples platform. It is like whining that you cannot talk about fishing on a hockey forum.

                Create your own forum.

                [–]Mazon_Del 139ポイント140ポイント  (87子コメント)

                My social group is currently dealing with a guy that read some book about spreading awareness of social problems. It basically says that people won't pay attention, so you need to force them to. Any public place (IE: Any location that isn't invite only) can and SHOULD be used at every opportunity to make people converse about these issues so that we can finally talk about them and fix them. If anybody (such as a moderator....or the person running a kickstarter that has nothing to do with your issue) tries to stop you, they are literally as bad as Hitler and should be treated as such.

                So basically he's showing up to all of our standard social events (gaming on Thursdays, movies on Tuesdays, etc) and trying to make people talk about a variety of topics, such as "We should ban Kickstarter because they allowed someone who made material harmful to sex workers to have a Kickstarter, and thus they condone and endorse such actions!", etc etc. When you say "Steve (not his name), we are playing a game of Battlestar Galactica, this is not the time or place for this conversation." he goes ballistic.

                It is not going terribly well.

                [–]You-Are-Really-Dumb 254ポイント255ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Maybe he's just mad that you call him Steve instead of his real name.

                [–]Wonderingperson 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Well, he sounds like a social reject, don't get me wrong i'm trying to say this in the nicest way, but tell him to fuck off if he's doing this.

                [–]IcarusDrake 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Damn kids these days don't understand the power of a well placed telling them to fuck off

                [–]Caelinus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It honestly might be the best option for him as well. He is smothering his own message in the noise.

                Social norms may be somewhat arbitrary and stupid from the outside, but in that society they may as well be law. And in order to convince anyone of anything you need to play the game well. He needs to know that if he actually cares about his causes.

                [–]paper_liger 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

                If he wants to act childishly give him a time out. Tell him the next time he starts spouting non sequiters he gets a week off from your social gatherings. Escalate the punishment.

                Social gatherings aren't just forums for debate, they have actual functions, and if he tries to continue to subvert time you've set aside for socializing or relaxation or leisure he's no helping anyone, he's putting his own will above the groups, and the group should take steps.

                Long story short, it's not your lack of concern for social issues, it's his selfishness that is the problem.

                [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Again though, we don't actually have any real authority to keep him from attending. These are just regularly scheduled events in public spaces that we cannot reserve.

                That said most people are just refusing to game with him and such.

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                  [–]sterreg 80ポイント81ポイント  (40子コメント)

                  Honestly, why the hell do y'all keep inviting him? Tell him he's being an annoying cunt, and that he's not welcome until he stops trying to hijack y'all's get togethers for his own bullshit.

                  [–]Mazon_Del 55ポイント56ポイント  (37子コメント)

                  It's not a closed event. It is held in a public space at the college and in an unreservable area (but public, as we like walk-ins), meaning we have no authority to have campus police remove him unless he actually begins doing things that break the rules of the area.

                  As far as the rest of it, we pretty much have been. What is the most annoying thing about the whole bullshit is he's recently said "I've tried the whole facebook, G+, etc setup. No reposts, no +1s, nothing. Since my damn friends have failed me, I have to go to the friends of my friends." And so he's started trying to find people we are connected to on social sites to start throwing info at.

                  Some have been considering going through the school harassment reporting process.

                  [–]Azzmo 63ポイント64ポイント  (11子コメント)

                  "Steve. Look. We're all very aware that you read a book and believe in the message but none of us do. And we won't. We're here to have fun and enjoy our lives. It's awesome that you're passionate about making the world a better place, but what you're actually doing is making it worse for all of us. We're here to have fun together and forget our troubles for a while. We're making the world a better place through happiness and what you've been doing is making us not want you around anymore."

                  Drop that on him.

                  [–]BingBoy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  The voice of reason. Thank you.

                  [–]goodguysteve 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  But don't call him Steve he hates that.

                  [–]NeverEnufWTF 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  But don't call him Steve he hates that.

                  --/u/goodguysteve

                  [–]Fighterhayabusa 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Or, you could just tell him to eat a dick? No one has to play with him or even interact with him just because he shows up somewhere. There is only one thing worse than assholes, and that's self-righteous assholes.

                  [–]Azzmo 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Most people aren't willing to stand toe to toe and say "eat a dick" because that leads to fighting, backstabbing, or just feeling kinda guilty.

                  This is a more realistic option.

                  [–]Reasonable_Thinker 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  But then you would be the asshole, not Steve...

                  [–]carl_super_sagan_jin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  think again. what eats dicks? pussys and assholes. he seems to be the latter, so there's that

                  [–]MrMulligan 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  It's awesome that you're passionate about making the world a better place, but what you're actually doing is making it worse for all of us

                  This sounds way harsher than it is. I can just see his smile rising then immediately turning to a frown.

                  [–]Azzmo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Meh. It's already pretty sugar coated but can't hurt to add a "...when you're doing this proselytizing thing you do" to qualify it.

                  [–]Mazon_Del 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  We have tried all manner of similar statements and he just replies something along the lines of "I've tried that for years and got nowhere, at least this is getting a reaction out of people!"

                  [–]avantgardeaclue 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Is its a campus sanctioned cl b you can and should do something about getting him officially banned. Like I know that you guys don't want to step on peoples toes, but I certainly remember being drragged to anime club meetings and having overzealous weebs wrecking everything for everyone (not to mention the treasurer was embezzling funds so he could go to cons) but I wish one of us would've stood up and got the weird kid who'd go off topic banned or the girl who's glomp everyone unprovoked and used yaoi as an adjective kicked out.

                  [–]sterreg 6ポイント7ポイント  (18子コメント)

                  I see. That really sucks. Maybe y'all could just drive him away? Get a few people to play the part of contrarians until he leaves. He wants to talk sexism, throw out the most absurd, sexist, misogynistic shit you can think of. If there's one thing I've learned about those kind of people, its that they are almost never able to pick up on sarcasm. Hell, y'all could turn it into a game, and place bets on who's most likely to make him snap and/or leave lol. Anyways, best of luck, hope you figure out a way to get that twat to leave y'all in peace.

                  Edit: now that I think about it... If you could bait him into starting a physical altercation it would almost certainly get him expelled/banned....

                  [–]BingBoy 30ポイント31ポイント  (15子コメント)

                  Or you know save the passive/aggressive bullshit and be honest.

                  [–]sterreg 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

                  Maybe you should re-read the above comments, because it clearly sounds like they tried that.

                  [–]thang1thang2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Have they tried the "this is not appropriate at all and while we realize you have the freedom of speech to say what you want to, we'll exercise our freedom to beat the shit out of you if you ever speak about these topics around us again" approach?

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                    [–]dewey2100 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Nah, passive/aggressive then start cracking up when he cracks and full on break it down on him. Once he realizes he's the butt of the joke he'll either stop or move on. Win/win.

                    [–]ooburai 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Exactly. College age guy all of a sudden finds an issue that is important to him and wants to tell the world. This isn't exactly something new.

                    If it's really as irritating as it sounds then sit down and explain to the guy why, though it might be his right or even a noble gesture, it's socially problematic.

                    When I read the first post I thought this was a private event, but in a public space you need to be willing to put up with people's nonsense, but being passive-aggressive is no better. Part of being an adult is tackling difficult issues and taking responsibility for solving social problems. I doubt that it's his intention to piss everybody off, in fact I find people who are compassionate about social issues tend to be fairly receptive to a well reasoned explanation of why something about their behaviour is irritating.

                    He's not wrong, he just needs to understand that there's at time and a place for political and social activism and generally speaking game night probably isn't it. (Unless your games are extremely exclusive or offensive!)

                    [–]CptFixIt 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Bad ideas all around, sorry. I would NOT suggest goading him to violence and trying to antagonize him hardly seems like taking the high road.

                    [–]emote_control 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    He might be allowed to show up at the space, but there's nothing forcing you to interact with him in any way other than telling him to go fuck himself. No one is obligated to play Battlestar Galactica with anyone thy don't want to play with, public event or not.

                    [–]skgoa 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    As much as it sounds like overkill, people definitely should try involving an outside authority. His issue is that he is convinced he is doing the right thing and that he just has to convince you, which will happen once you stop resisting. (He thinks) In this context it's only logical to dismiss your stance. Being confronted by an outside context could help. Though realistically it would at least turn his attention towards the authority that is "oppressing" him.

                    This is harassment. The problem is that people who harass others don't understand that what they are doing isn't ok. Normal people don't know how to deal with that, because we see it as a no-brainer that you don't harass people. We just want to find a way for everyone to be happy, because that's how it normally goes. You (or your friends) gotta realize that he is the one who is making trouble, he is threatening your right to not being harassed, he is denying your freedom of opinion.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    As you say, normal people don't know how to deal with that. It is worse when most of your social group is made up of nerds that are only just recently figuring out how face-to-face human contact works. But as I said, options are being explored.

                    [–]Andrelse 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Sounds like it would be fun to anger him a bit. So instead of rejecting a conversation with him why not express the most unethical opinions to any discussion topic he has? If he gets really angry you can have him removed, and chances are he will avoid you in the future.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I've been quite tempted to, but again, he's usually doing this during the most inopportune of times.

                    [–]FreyWill 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    y'all's

                    Really?

                    [–]blarg_dunsen 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Get everyone to stop what they are doing whenever Steve enters and just start making chicken noises. Keep doing this vigorously until he leaves.

                    Do not let up, do not feel sorry for him. If everyone joins in and keeps at it, it would take maybe 2 or 3 times before he moves on.

                    Also encourage everyone to block him on social media. If he can't see you he can't see your contacts.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    He's already been quite blocked on social media. Chicken dance shall be investigated.

                    [–]Eyclonus 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Are you sure its not because he has no ability to bluff and you guys keep dealing him Cylon Loyalty cards?

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    If it were only that, we'd be far more impressed with him.

                    [–]purifico 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    He's obviously a cylon. Pick Cally and shoot him.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Well, I mean we all were a cylon, because we fucked up the role cards again.

                    [–]axclover 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Sounds like Steve

                    [–]GlobindobinButler 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Fuck that guy.

                    Then don't call him.

                    [–]cvnovice 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Just throwing this out there, but if you think the issues are important and his points are valid, why not just let him know its not a good time to talk at your gaming event, then schedule another time to sit down and have a more in depth discussion about this issues at hand?

                    [–]scamperly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Given how long it takes to setup a game of BSG that guy is literally worse than Baltar if he's ruining a game.

                    PS I have this friend too. I think you and I might know each other.

                    [–]tatertitzmcgee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Seems overly alpha, but this should give you what you want. "Steve, seriously man, no one here wants to listen to your bullshit. You will never change the mind if anyone here. You're making us all miserable. So go and fuck off. Seriously, get the fuck out"

                    If Steve is a big guy with a temper you might want to reword accordingly.

                    [–]DaystarEld 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    "You are literally turning anyone who might be interested in your topic off of it by bringing it up so often and so inappropriately. I get that you're trying to do the right thing, but you need to learn how to do it civilly or you are just going to do more harm than good."

                    If he persists even past that:

                    "Okay, so to prove my point, every time you bring this up in my earshot again, or I hear from a friend that you have, I'm going to donate 5 dollars to some organization opposite of the ideas you're preaching."

                    Do it at least once or twice if he doesn't listen, and show him the receipt. If that doesn't hammer it home just how badly his lack of tact or political savvy is harming the values and goals he claims to be fighting for, nothing will.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    The last one hasn't been tried, but mostly because it would just reaffirm his insistence that those not on his side with these topics are evil. The first one wasn't very effective.

                    [–]rocketplex 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Maybe mention to him that he's employing the same tactics as the Westboro Baptist Church?

                    Also wouldn't multiple events of persistent unsolicited aggravation of fall foul of some kind of public nuisance rules?

                    I know in the US, it'd be an instant lawsuit from Steve if you manhandled him. Here, where the police are markedly less effective at their jobs, I think Steve would be actively ignored if he was taking to nobody in particular (like we do for those crazy street preachers), but definitely would have "fallen over accidentally" if he got in someone's face, then he likely would have been "helped up" and he unfortunately would "fall" on his face. Very sad.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Some of the students are looking into the harassment reporting setup at school, because honestly it is kind of getting that far.

                    [–]on_the_nightshift 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Y'all need to whoop that dude's ass.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    He wouldn't hesitate to call campus police on us for it. But my understanding is that a few students are talking to the college about using their harassment reporting setup on him.

                    [–]Cebraio 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    votekick Steve

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    He's doing a fine job of that himself.

                    [–]TacitMantra 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Most of the comments below seem to be about not putting with this guy. I don't think you've mentioned though whether any of his topics need attention or not, if someone is that fired up then maybe people should be paying attention.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    They aren't exactly what I would refer to as critical social topics. The Kickstarter example was a real one.

                    Apparently there was a Kickstarter for a book or something by these people that said (I am not sure if it was in relation to their project or not) hateful things towards sex workers, and this guy has decided that since Kickstarter did not take down their project, that they fully condone and endorse this behavior (he's a very "you're either with me or against me" type of fellow).

                    His other shtick that I've even half payed attention to is how people are "ableist" against people with disabilities. Mostly as pertaining to lack of wheelchair ramps. Pretty much his opinion is that any building (even historical ones that are not required to get up to code) need to have picket lines until they get their wheelchair ramps. To decide this is not needed means you want all wheelchair bound people to die in a gutter.

                    Ugh.

                    [–]EdgarAllenPoeHunter 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    He kind of sounds he has bad self esteem to me. Being the guy who heroically forces people to have uncomfortable conversations is probably something that makes him feel good about himself, ya know? And if he's willing to drive away all his friends, that must be something pretty valuable for him.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Possibly, but it doesn't end up excusing the behavior as far as its effects on us.

                    [–]EdgarAllenPoeHunter 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Oh, of course not. I'm just playing armchair psychotherapist.

                    [–]Mazon_Del 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Do you get one of those comfy long ones with the one armrest?

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                      [–]butheactuallydoes 39ポイント40ポイント  (24子コメント)

                      Create your own forum.

                      http://i.imgur.com/z9Il6Mp.jpg

                      [–]cc81 45ポイント46ポイント  (17子コメント)

                      But I strongly believe in it. That is why I say people should start their own forums!

                      I don't believe in silencing or forcing people on the Internet and therefore it would be wrong to force reddit to accept content they don't want.

                      [–]huge_hefner 34ポイント35ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      There's no arguing that Reddit doesn't have the right to decide what content appears on its site, but I think the general "start your own forum" mentality is dangerous. It's exactly what herds people into polarizing, comfortable echo chambers in which they will never be challenged with other opinions (or reasonably explained versions thereof) or information that doesn't fit their subscribed narrative.

                      [–]LontraFelina 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Reddit is already way past the point of no return in that respect.

                      [–]orangefly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      i don't think they mean start your own forum as in we shouldn't allow dissenting views, i think he means don't start talking politics in a gaming forum. it is a problem though when a political forum that leans left buries or even deletes any right wing views and vice-versa.

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                        [–]McDaioh 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

                        then Reddit isn't a freespeech platform then.

                        [–]shallow- 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

                        There are no completely free speech platforms, the US constitution protects certain speech such as criticisms of the government (as long as those criticisms don't insight illegal action).

                        If you criticize your employer, there is nothing protecting you from being fired (unless your employer is the government). If you criticize a website, there's nothing protecting you from being banned on that website.

                        Anybody can say a platform is a free speech platform, but I'm betting that as soon as some child porn shows up on their platform, they'll change their mind about how free of a platform they really want. After that's it's just a matter of where you draw the line, and that's a matter of constant debate.

                        [–]bigtfatty 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I think his point was more along the lines of "you have the right to speak your mind, not the right to be heard"

                        [–]D4rthkitty 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        No, he is saying there is a time and a place for things. If I make a subreddit devoted to fishing then there is absolutely no reason for you to go onto that forum and try to get everyone to talk about hockey on it.

                        It is a forum about fishing. You go there to talk about fishing. There is a subreddit about Christianity. Therefore you go there to talk about Christianity. You don't go there to talk about atheism You go to /r/atheism, and visa versa. Just because you have the freedom to say it doesn't mean you are addressing it in the proper venue.

                        Legally you have the right to do it, but that doesn't protect you from the mods banning you in either case

                        [–]System0verlord 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Just FYI, it's vice versa. Not visa versa.

                        [–]Belgand 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Create your own forum.

                        It worked for /u/Warlizard

                        [–]speaksthetruthalways 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        they have the right to say those things on other peoples platform

                        You LITERALLY just described the whole modus operandi of Reddit.

                        It is like whining that you cannot talk about fishing on a hockey forum.

                        That's not what a lack of free speech is at all. Reddit isn't dedicated to one subject.

                        [–]cc81 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        You LITERALLY just described the whole modus operandi of Reddit.

                        Obviously not, right?

                        [–]dowhatuwant2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I see the entitlement on a different side of the coin, people seem to feel they are entitled to never be offended. Fuck those people.

                        [–]Hrodrik -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

                        Create your own forum.

                        That's how people stay uneducated. They go to their own echo chambers and don't listen to more opinions.

                        [–]Poop_is_Food 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        I don't give a fuck about their education. I want them to stop poisoning everyone else.

                        [–]Hrodrik -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        Being offended does not give you the right to silence dissent.

                        [–]Poop_is_Food 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        If I owned or moderated a private website I would have the right to silence any dissent I wanted.

                        [–]Hrodrik 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        And if reddit was not a free-speech friendly website before, there would be nobody here.

                        [–]Poop_is_Food 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I would be here, and it would be a much better place without all the hate mongers.

                        [–]cc81 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Dude, it was about programming and news before. Not really trying to go up against the limits of free speech there.

                        [–]rammerpilkington 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It's more like you can't talk about particular hockey games on a hockey forum.

                        [–]shu82 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You can be an ass for speaking your mind out of place, but you shouldn't be arrested for it.

                        [–]Wartim 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        If you're gonna claim you're a "free speech zone" then you better act like it.

                        [–]PhotoShopNewb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It's more like whining that you cant talk fishing on a forum that says you can talk fishing and then being banned because the mods like hockey.

                        I agree that the mods should be able to ban or delete anything they want, but don't try to convey an image of free speech when it is definitely not.

                        [–]rrasco09 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        You can if you are talking about Pavel Datsyuk

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                          [–]SkeeverTail 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          This guy wasn't committing "thought crime" though. He was deliberately trying to incite an angry response. It really isn't much different from shouting obscenities in public (especially in a country where this gesture is as culturally charged as Germany).

                          [–]LaGeG 24ポイント25ポイント  (29子コメント)

                          I disagree.

                          You can afford discussion on sensitive issues. In fact it should be encouraged. I don't believe that people have the right to publicly or privately harass someone else to satisfy their opinion.

                          That is just being a cunt.

                          [–]NothappyJane 3ポイント4ポイント  (28子コメント)

                          Hate speech by broadcasters, harassment and inciting violence is banned in my country, and I'm satisfied with that. I don't believe our institutions or figures of authority should have the right to do that.

                          [–]gamercer 15ポイント16ポイント  (22子コメント)

                          The problem with that is that your government defines "hate".

                          [–]EnigmaticHats 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Depending on where he lives, the government might very well, in essence, be the people.

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                            [–]Feldheld 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            "hate speech".... Ive been banned for alleged "hateful generalisation" in /r/worldnews.

                            Only there was no hate, not even anger, but no doubt I was critical about a group of people. But while you are allowed to be critical about some groups (like whites, males, christians), you are not allowed the same with other groups (insert list of stereotypical victim groups according to liberals) because then its not being critical, it is being hateful.

                            Also I will never understand why people have issues with "generalisation". All thinking processes involve abstractions. Discussions are impossible without the ability to generalize. But while youre allowed to generalize about certain groups (whites, males, christians etc) because then you only mean the group and not every single individual, you must not generalize about other groups (see above), because then you are not just meaning the group but also every single individual. Liberal logic.

                            But I agree that reddit is a forum from liberals for liberals, and I dont mind them applying liberal double standards. And yes, you have the right to express your disdain of free speech, to delete inconvenient statements, and to ban dissenting users.

                            Freedom has never been free. You have to buy it, steal it, rob it, obtain it by fraud, sometimes you even have to kill for it. Freedom will always be a function of the size of your own balls, and nothing but.

                            [–]NothappyJane 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            What were you saying exactly?

                            [–]Feldheld 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Its been a while, I think it was close to "you can live in peace with Jewish neighbours but you cannot live in peace with Arab neighbours". Out of context it probably sounds misleading, like I was talking about individuals rather than collectives, but it dont think it matters much.

                            [–]LaGeG 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            If you say blanket statements like that without supporting evidence it really does sound like you're inciting hatred towards a certain group of people.

                            Conservatives love to use the logic of "Feels right" and no facts.

                            See how this ^ is actually a contemptible thing to say, not to mention ironic in its proclamation?

                            [–]Feldheld 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            If you say blanket statements like that without supporting evidence it really does sound like you're inciting hatred towards a certain group of people.

                            You could say that about almost anything critical being said about a group of people.

                            See how this ^ is actually a contemptible thing to say

                            Nobody would get deleted let alone get banned for that. Nobody would even think of doing that.

                            Certain groups are more touchy towards critique than others. I dont know any group that tolerates critique less than muslims. This level of "vulnerability" of the target of critique (and not the content of the critique itself) is the standard for (liberal) moderators on which they decide if your critique is ban-worthy or not.

                            Its really that simple.
                            Person: Islam is violent and irrational.
                            Muslim person: Islam is peaceful! Also we are getting provoked! And one day we will drive those pesky Jews into the sea!
                            Liberal moderator: Person, youre banned for hateful generalisations!

                            [–]baconmastah 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Wait, if everyone else's comments but yours seem banned, does that mean I'm banned?

                            [–]lessthanstraight 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            Yep. That's one of the worst things about modern liberal society. Saying racist shit on certain websites might get you banned.

                            One of the worst things about modern liberal society, truly.

                            [–]SpankingViolet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Do I blame the users?

                            [–]Brigante87 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            That's just shitty mods isn't it? Or admins, I forgot the difference, the volunteers.

                            [–]PrimeIntellect 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            i just had a somethingawful flashback

                            [–]sjsharks510 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I was wondering what that was all about, any other info?

                            [–]CourierOfTheWastes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Context? What's is?

                            [–]srbb3 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Shit I really want to see that post.

                            [–]ntropi 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            surprisingly, this comment by /u/camjam80 managed to get past the censorship...

                            You can view all the deleted comments using Uneddit. http://uneddit.com/

                            [–]camjam80 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Hahaha, yeah I remember writing that. I waited until about 2 days for that shit-show to die down before posting it, hoping no mods would notice. I guess it worked! (I think it was 2 days, can't remember)

                            [–]mypurplelighter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            My husband's a sailor and was pretty pissed off about that shit show. The mod told him to fuck off when he asked why he was discouraging honest discourse.

                            Edit: I'd ask him to comment, but he's out to sea at the moment.

                            [–]Mav986 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            thoughts are no longer thoughts when you express them. Nobody is punishing you for what you THINK.

                            Also your little picture you linked as proof contradicts you. Further down it says mods reserve the right to remove posts. They utilized that right. Stop being a baby.

                            [–]fistruler -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            This is not 4chan.

                            [–]7LeagueBoots 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Especially here on Reddit.

                            [–]Mundlifari 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            https://xkcd.com/1357/

                            [–]TheFeatheredFish 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I don't think every single user that got their comment removed was an asshole.

                            [–]ryhntyntyn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Thinking Nazi salutes are great is different than performing one.

                            [–]lt_hindu 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Isn't freedom of speech allowed in Germany. Just no nay-zee stuff allowed up in here kinda thing?

                            Wouldn't that kind of repression of self hate about a dark chapter of the country ultimately cause some sort of blowback?

                            [–]rydan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            That's a dumb reason to be shadowbanned from Reddit.

                            [–]2gudfou 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            how do you know he was banned?

                            [–]CowardiceNSandwiches 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            That odd. Just earlier this year, a very popular post on /r/Documentaries was a blatant Holocaust-revisionist film that attempted to rehabilitate the image of Hitler and Nazism.

                            [–]Extradaemon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Look at rule 8.

                            [–]coolsubmission 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Orwell rotates with 500rpm in his grave seeing nazis abusing his books

                            [–]aredditgroupthinker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            It's almost like the Jews run the media.

                            [–]NorthernSpectre 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I like you dude, you and me are on the same page I feel.

                            [–]I_not_Jofish 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Well, it is their site. They can decide what does and doesn't get posted

                            [–]KadenTau 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            You forgot to outline rules 8 and 9 in red.

                            You have no idea what was in those comments, nor why they were removed. Given the topic of the OP, you can probably wager it was blatant jew-bashing.

                            If the mods really wanted to silence people over that then why not remove the entire post instead of just the comments?

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