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[–]gyanos422 80ポイント81ポイント  (18子コメント)

I'm immune to white guilt. I didn't do anything to anyone so if they expect me to feel bad about something that happened before I was born, then they can go f themselves.

[–]auronvi 24ポイント25ポイント  (5子コメント)

And this is the attitude we should have. White guilt shouldn't be a thing... You have a responsibility to not repeat the mistakes of the past but you shouldn't shoulder any of the blame. You didn't exist when it happened.

[–]sekai-31 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But what if you're still profiting from it? I'm not Indian, but the crown jewels come to mind. Sure today's white people didn't steal it, but they're the ones still in possession of the stolen goods. I'm sure Indians and the Indian economy would be grateful for them back.

[–]AppleSpicer -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

No it isn't. It's defensive and reactionary and stifles progress by taking people of color's social criticisms as personal attacks. We should recognize modern systems of privilege and discrimination. It's not about blame or making people feel bad, those are internalizations the dominant group has (in the case of race, white people) and aren't often productive. Most of us don't want to admit we've benefited from exploitation or started with a head start, especially when our experiences don't include the absolute hell of modern racism. Unless we're part of a social minority group we aren't exposed to the crap they go through. All of this stuff has historical context too, it didn't just happen out of no where, which is why history is brought up. These problems are ongoing, not buried in the distant past, and must be acknowledged by the dominant group. Please do your part to end the vicious cycle and listen with an open mind to the voices of people who are part of a social minority. It's minimum human decency. It's not always easy, believe me, as a member of the dominant racial group I know, but realize that as difficult as it is for you it's a trillion times harder for that person who's opening up to you, expressing their hurt and frustration at inequality that has benefited you and screwed them over. At the end of the day you can go home and blank it out to revisit later but they can't. It's pervasive, stalks them, infects everything, and can't be cut out of their lives. So keep that in mind if someone ever offers you their perspective as someone from a minority group

[–]auronvi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who says I don't do what you said at the end. I have an open mind and I don't ever judge someone based on stereotypes as much as I can. I treat everyone how I would like to be treated to the best of my ability. The minute someone tries to use their race to their advantage or pull the race card, or gay card, or trans card or whatever minority card they are holding I lose respect for them because not once did their race enter the equation when I was talking/dealing with them. In fact, I don't think the race card has ever been played on me unless it was in a joking or playful manner if that speaks to how I like to treat everyone I come in contact with.

We should not treat minorities by giving them special advantages. That's just as bad as treating a minority poorly. What you do is you teach love, tolerance and respect for ALL people regardless of their gender, race, sexuality or disability and get everyone to treat everyone else equally. You can't offset it. You can't make laws or rules that raise up minority classes because that will just breed contempt for those who may or may not receive those same benefits.

White people should not feel any guilt for their heritages past. They have a responsibility not to repeat those mistakes though and that's how they should be judged. The only time a white person should feel guilt is when they are actually treating someone bad, or different because of personal bias not because maybe their great-grandfather called someone a nigger once.

[–]fruitscrolllup 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

And do what? You people have a lot of words about feelings but no solution of any kind. "Listen with an open mind" okay and then what?

Give me a break.

[–]AppleSpicer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And take what people say into your worldview and act accordingly to eliminate systems of oppression. I could write a book here if that would be helpful

[–]darktask 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

How about just recognizing that the things people did the past created a lot of systems and misconceptions that people still deal with today?

[–]worldchrisis 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I recognize that things people have done in the past have created inequalities in the present.

I was not responsible for those things that were done in the past, therefore I do not feel bad about them.

White guilt is a misunderstanding of the dynamics in play.

[–]HigherResBear 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not like I get the praise for all the decent stuff white people have done why would I get the shit either. Neither would make sense.

[–]sekai-31 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course you do. People look at you being white and assume you're educated with a progressive mindset, that you're automatically wealthy and attractive (relatively and by virtue of being white). It's not really praise but it's still a nice benefit. And even if those things about you aren't true, others will assume it and it will affect how they treat you.

[–]duozieOur word is gold. -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As long as you recognize white people do have built-in social advantages and you're not denying the evident white privileges, that's more important than feeling guilty.

It's true, one person or one group's actions doesn't represent the ideology of an entire population and the generations after. Just like how not all Muslims are terrorists and not all Slytherins are Death Eaters.