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[–]kiaundelete 132ポイント133ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact that Bernstein is still allowed on Wikipedia after blatantly attacking other editors and his consistent pattern of assuming malice on editors, doesn't speak well for that site.

Yes be more inclusive while you have a rabid dog who himself is an spa who tears into anyone daring set foot near any article him and his cronies own.

That's the same person who straight up lied to the press about the results of arbitration and he's still editing. Fuck Wikipedia.

Oh and the edits they're pushing regarding wiping out mentions of it being a movement? Fringe.

[–]Limon_LimeSeven-37k Get. Eleven more drug deals. 48k Get. 97ポイント98ポイント  (15子コメント)

These people have a weird sick obsession with GG.

[–]Isane14 70ポイント71ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's straight up unhealthy, and I'd pity them if it wasn't so hilarious watching that train wreck. They're more obsessed with gamergate than people who actually support it!

[–]shotlord 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's not even funny. It's just sad, really. I think that most of us do things ultimately to make ourselves happy, and I don't see where his endgame is with this or how the actions being taken could possibly end with him feeling any better. I think he's lost sight of that and is trying desperately to replace being happy with being "right" (without the actual integrity of admitting fallibility).

And let's not pretend closed-mindedness is isolated to this; we're all closed minded from time to time and need to remind ourselves that the people we disagree with are, in fact, people.

On a baser level though: Fuck that dude.

[–]_Aexo 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's religious zealotry.

[–]Fimmherjar 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its exactly this, these people are obsessed with a daemon that doesn't exist. Gamergates not like a "chan" though, we stick around with a clear purpose and presence. We are winning on every front, handily, and these religious zelots are losing their minds because we are pushing their double think to the point of fracture.

The craziest among them will continue to make their own question their choices (much like cheong) and push them farther into a neutral camp, where they can no longer ignore the issues we care about. They might not give a shit or like Gamergate (after all who would appreciate someone who proves your wrong), but we are devastating the hold SJWism has on people.

They will become more and more insular until they are small pockets of influence more concerned with the preservation of their beliefs than taking actions on others. Alot of people are bothered by VICE going full SJW but essentially its a containment board. Very few people pay attention or care about vice, so the fact that its becoming a retreat base for SJWs is all but proof they are losing.

Eventually, the "culture" sector will be devoid of serious SJW influence, we've made the damage they do to business very apparent. Remember, CEOs dont make public announcements. They will dismiss and blacklist these people as profit killers over and over again. Give it another year, SJWisim culture centers will be nothing more than "those annoying assholes from that one website who whine about sexism every once in a while"

[–]totlmstrBanned for triggering reddit's advertisers 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]TURBOSLUT420 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea he is a work of art.

"The result is that Wikipedia and Gamergate have apparently worked together to create a system in which argument is simultaneously advanced in two places: anonymously but “civilly” on-wiki, and off-wiki, also anonymously, with the greatest venom and bile that can be achieved."

Wikipedia and Gamergate have apparently worked together

LOL apparently wikipedia is collaborating with GG.

"Gamergate’s Wikipedia tactics have soured and hardened as Gamergate slowly accepts that, to take over the Gamergate page, they’re going to need to take over Wikipedia. That’s a tall order, but it might be realistic, and given a few years of hard work, observers think it they might pull it off. But hope springs eternal and there’s a bitter rump that still hopes they can succeed right away if they can simply get rid of one or two more editors whom they think are standing athwart their road."

Jimmy Wales himself said the page was a piece of shit and needed to be redone. He requested that neutral veteran editors step in to fix the mess and that is exactly what editors like masem and sitush have been trying to do. Apparently GG is trying to take over wikipedia though. Jimmy Wales must be a GGer if he wants the article scrapped and rewritten! /s LOL again.

"Arbcom is determined to ignore off-wiki harassment – especially sexual harassment – unless the outside harasser can be tied to a specific, anonymous Wikipedia account beyond a shadow of a doubt."

He is upset because wikipedia won't take action against someone unless he can prove that it was actually that person harassing him off-site. Amazing how he thinks requiring proof is some kind of conspiracy against him. LOL trifeca.

Overall I would say that MarkBernstein is just about as thirsty as a field in california and just wants to stick his dick in some SJW crazy.

Easily the most entertaining editor on wiki. I love that he claims there is some organized conspiracy against him on wiki while at the same time brigades with likeminded editors against neutral veteran editors just trying to clean up the article and bring it up to standards.

[–]Hurin_T 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Harassed = People are disagreeing with me.

[–]Vlastov_Manspunk 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Their blind hatred and intolerance is what defines them. Ironic, isn't it?

[–]primalchaos 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

We didn't go away. We didn't apologize. We didn't show shame. We're still here. We're a symbol that you do not have to submit to them, and that they are not the keepers of the future.

Yeah, they hate us. They have every reason to. We're their end.

[–]ApplicableSongLyricWe provide... leverage. 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hell, they're doing us a favor.

We're a "consumer revolt", not a "movement".

[–]AspsVeryDangerous 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wiki editing to them is no different than having their own tumblr blog. They are SJWs doing what SJWs do: bullying and circle-jerking from a keyboard and calling it activism.

[–]Cownt 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we all need to take a step back an realize there are people just looking to make money who'll say whatever inflammatory things they can because Jerry Springer gets views, those who're genuinely misinformed, and those more comparable to religious nutjobs in their dedication to the bottom line.

Ryulong is a crazy nutter, and Mark Bernstein is taking his best shot at the title. It could be really interesting if we give a bit of ground, on the Wiki where we don't have any ground that's ours to give, in an attempt to turn RL against MB. RL doesn't like being shown up, in theory, and it has the potential for many laughs.

Anyways, I drink a lot.

[–]arcticwolffox 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Basically GG to them is something infinitely evil that justifies both their actions to fight it and on the long run, their entire internet lives.

[–]powerpiglet 57ポイント58ポイント  (6子コメント)

[...] conspiring to prevent Zoe Quinn from attending a professional conference by giving her a beating resulting in knee damage or brain injury [...]

Wat?

[–]StukaLied[S] 34ポイント35ポイント  (5子コメント)

This is one of Mark's favorite quotes to throw out, not sure where it came from but he's been copy-pastaing it since November or whenever.

''Next time she shows up at a conference we... give her a crippling injury that's never going to fully heal... a good solid injury to the knees. I'd say a brain damage, but we don't want to make it so she ends up too retarded to fear us.''

[–]IE_5 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

[–]KarKraKr 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

He quotes… an anonymous chan post? Is there even anything more unquotable? I’m having a hard time coming up with something.

Also supports that a lot of the issues around aGG are simply a culture clash, most of them probably grew up on facebook and don’t know what an anonymous image board even is, before Gamergate they only vaguely knew of the hacker named 4chan.

[–]Hurin_T 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

For all we know, Zoe could have made those 4chan posts herself.

[–]MaleGoddessAchievememt: banned +4 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck yes! Anonymous posting from chans can now be cited!

Verified!!!

[–]powerpiglet 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see. Thank you for your comprehensive summaries, OP.

[–]AsianGirl69420 39ポイント40ポイント  (8子コメント)

To be honest, I have no idea how any of this Wikipedia shit goes. It seems like the most ridiculous bureaucratic bullshit for everything. If I was Jimbo, I would just be like "Look, none of you stupid children can make this thing non-biased or even non-militant, so it's all getting deleted. No more gamergate, no more gamergate celebs, no GG articles at all. You lost the privilege to try to attempt these topic because you are all way too big of spergs." then ban every single person who watch dogs those pages because they are poisoning the Wikipedia community with their zealous agendas.

It's absurd how far these anti-gg people will fight to shame Gamergate... and for what? Gamergate has been the scapegoat of every single media group in the world, who gives a fuck what Wikipedia or the media says? It ain't stopping the gamergate movement from improving journalism and knocking down authoritarian swjs who keep trying to censor everything .

It's like, every time GG does something, Anti-GG/SJW/Etc. expect every GG member to freeze or stop the movement because Vox says "Gamergate sucks" or Wikipedia updates the page to say "Oh no! Gamergate is full of rapists!" or something retarded. Why do they keep being so defensive on the Wikipedia page? Like, seriously, what is the point? It's been... jeez... how long now? A year or something? Has there seriously been someone so pathetic to try to bully a Wikipedia page for a year now?

Like, god damn, lol.

[–]StukaLied[S] 31ポイント32ポイント  (4子コメント)

Manipulation of information read by hoi polloi - the masses - is what they desire, since search engines/Google puts the Gamergate controversy article as the first result when searching for "gamergate."

Straight from the topic banned Horseman's mouth of Travis Mason-Bushman (NorthBySouthBaranof) in a hilariously slanted ThinkProgress piece Mark Bernstein also contributed to (and got topic banned for warring over including it on the GGC article's Media section, resulting in Mark kicking and screaming about it for weeks until the banning admin, Dreadstar, got in trouble on an unrelated manner then ragequit and unbanned Mark as a final act of hatred towards Wikipedia):

“I don’t want [anyone] calling people a slut on the world’s most read website,” Mason-Bushman said. Wikipedia is the sixth most-read site worldwide, according to Alexa, but is undoubtedly the world’s top reference site. “It’s the power of it and the danger of it. All it takes is for that to be on the page for 20 minutes.

[–]oldmanbees 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's wild about it is that to the completely uninformed--that is, the people most likely to type the word "gamergate" into wikipedia or google (which leads to wikipedia) to find out what is the dealio--they've consistently said that the entry is an unintelligible mess that doesn't help them understand at all.

The sickos camping it 24-7, their backs against the wall with a shotgun aimed at the door, are so invested that they don't even understand that you need to be already intimately familiar with the whole shebang to even understand what the fuck they're talking about. Some people even find it such a tone and posture departure from the rest of wikipedia that they end up here asking questions, which to creatures like Bernstein and Ryulong, must be a worst-case scenario.

It's like if you wondered what GamerGate was, so you asked Arthur Chu. He dumps a seemingly random bunch of nonsense at you, so you ask David Auerbach. He doesn't sound like an insane cave-dwelling urine-keeping, tissue-box-on-feet crazypants, so you say "Oh! So that's what it's all about. Thanks."

[–]ITSigno[M] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can you please remove the pseudonyms other than NorthBySouthBaranof. The linked article does not include those names and such a connection may be unwarranted or involuntary.

[–]TheCid 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

If I was Jimbo,

You're not. Jimbo has taken the most comically hands-off attitude imaginable, to the point where he can't even correct shit that's wrong on his own article because there are editors who refuse to allow it.

[–]CaesarCzech 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Loool how is this working for you Jimbo ? Simpsons much ?

[–]Qvar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That should send him the message that something is wrong with the way his web works...

But I won't get my hopes up.

[–]Neo_TechniDon't demand what you refuse to give. 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love how they make many claims of what we stand for. But when someone says we claim to be a movement they talk about how no one can know our motivations. Well then how can you say we want to get women out of gaming?

[–]Cownt 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

Revisit 8 months ago when the littlest wikidiot lost his wings. I feel really bad that RationalWiki learned the same lesson....1..

[–]phantomtag3 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

8 months

Holy shit it really was that long ago

[–]Cownt 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, we are all old now. I didn't ask for this...

[–]fearghul 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure you didn't, Jensen.

[–]KRosen333More like KRockin' 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We old :(

[–]kaian-a-coel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We're going to be 1 year old soon, which in internet time is about two or three centuries.

[–]richmomz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Only four more months until he can petition to be reinstated. I bet he's counting the days.

[–]AllMightyReginald 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

The lede is presently set up to set out as much blame as possible on the GG situation for the harassment - which is arguably what the press has done but not what WP should be writing as per NPOV and SOAPBOX. Setting up the lead to be as close to the actual facts as possible - which is really the sequence of events in Aug and Sept, in that Gjoni posted, and while some took to that to debate ethics under the GG hashtag, the engagement of harassment and threats under the GG hashtag quickly overwhelmed it.

Wikipedia everybody. Lying through their teeth and thinking they're NPOV. So since the "harassment and threats" overwhelmed the hashtag, why are you never able to provide proof of any link between the hashtag and any actual threats?

[–]DoctorBleed 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

The GGC article is a real blessing in disguise right now. It's so long, rambling and badly written that it's actually forcing to people to think critically and look for different sources.

[–]CaesarCzech 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

i said it make accasional token effort to edit it to be more PRO-GG to send into berseker and then leave them slaughtering allies after we are already withdrawn. Aggro them and the leave them to ruin themselves.

[–]SupremeReader 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

[–]kiaundelete 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

What a dishonest worm of a man. He knows damn well it's referring to this.

[–]troushers 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

OMFG.

[–]SupremeReader 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]troushers 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just realised that calling Mark "Spiderman" is also an anti-semitic attack because it references famous National Socialist propaganda posters depicting international jewry as spiders in the centre of a conspiratorial web ensnaring gentile nations.

[–]alps25 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

...did he just imply that Depression Quest, a game that, despite significant controversy, has only 2,959 reviews on Steam (compared to Arkham Knight, which was also controversial but has existed about a twelfth the time and has 15,173 reviews) is more objectively notable than the mere concept of My Little Pony, a franchise that has existed for decades, has had 4 discrete lines of toys and television series(es?), and probably also has a greater presence in internet/tech culture than Depression Quest?

Possible run-on sentence aside, that's hilarious.

[–]Doomblaze 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

comparing MLP to depression quest is an insult to mlp and its wide variety of fans around the world. There are what like, 10 people who actually like depression quest?

[–]ksheep 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After some in-depth investigation, I have concluded that My Little Pony is approximately 66,000x more notable than Depression quest. Or rather, my investigation has shown that the My Little Pony sub-reddit (or at least the main one, I hear there are dozens) has 66,156 subscribers, while the Depression Quest sub-reddit has 1 subscriber.

[–]throwaway7575751 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is this the guy with the diapers or am I thinking of another obsessive wikipedia editor?

[–]StukaLied[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would be NorthBySouthBaranof if ED is correct (NBSB is one of the Five Horsemen of Wikibias).

MarkBernstein is the crazy "Gamergate is terrorism! Dylann Roof is why we need to make sure Gamergate doesn't win!" guy who's been attacking Gamergate on and off Wikipedia since November.

[–]troushers 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems like Wikipedia quotes a description of Anonymous thusly:

"Olson, who formerly described Anonymous as a "brand", stated in 2012 that she now characterized it as a "movement" rather than a group: "anyone can be part of it. It is a crowd of people, a nebulous crowd of people, working together and doing things together for various purposes."

Funny, I can't find MarkBernstein taking an interest in reverting this terrible piece of sourcing.

[–]Nele25 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does popularizing cartoons that allude to rape injury, regardless of whether or not a static image can readily allude to rape, address an ethical issue in video game journalism?

Wait what? What is this refering to?

[–]StukaLied[S] 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is vintage salt from when MarkBernstein burst onto the scene back in November, quickly spiraling out of control with his Gamergate obsession, mostly thanks to his bizarre infatuation with the Daily Dose.

Mark quickly became obsessed with Masem, an obsession that has continued to this day. (This is not new behavior for Mark, every dispute he gets into on Wikipedia seems to have a 'Masem' that he singles out for ad hominem attacks, such as Director from when Mark was outraged over a Jews and Communism article, who said this about Mark when he was the main focus of Mark's hatred: "It would be more appropriate to describe MarkBernstein as the agent provocateur, "craftily enticing" others into a reaction based on a quite "crafted" perspective, voiced in his pamphleteer-style, manipulative essays. He's a specialist in character assassination, who tends to favor ad hominem attacks as a method to push his extreme, politically-coloured agendas.")

Mark had been spilling spaghetti and spewing salt on the Gamergate topic area about the "rape joke" aka Daily Dose, which is what he is evidently still butthurt about in your quote. Mark just yelled and screamed when Masem and others attempted to respond to Mark, and Mark began attacking Masem off-wiki on his blog and on Twitter, then spewed more salt including "fouling up his pronouns" because he was "so angry."

MarkBernstein was indefinitely topic banned in late November after trying to get Masem sanctioned, using Masem's comment that a "static image cannot readily imply rape" as evidence against him.

It is time to take a harder line against disruptive behavior. In my judgement, MarkBernstein's rhetoric is incompatible with collaborative editing on these articles and he has given no indication that he will moderate his behavior in this area. For that reason, I am imposing an indefinite topic ban, broadly construed, on User:MarkBernstein. This ban will not forbid participation in any Arbitration Committee matters related to these articles. Gamaliel (talk) 17:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

(Stupidly, Gamaliel would unban Bernstein three months later, despite Bernstein's atrocious behavior towards the topic on and off wiki, despite Bernstein being site blocked for breaking the topic ban at the time, and conveniently after the Gamergate ArbCom had concluded.)

Despite claiming that he was quitting, was done, no longer contributing, and so on in the week leading to his topic ban, Mark kept coming back to Wikipedia, always to talk about Gamergate, including this edit in December with more attacks on Masem and more butthurt about the Daily Dose.

[–]DeeDoubsFounder of Kek's Giving Day 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

The worst thing about GamerGate is that no one really knows what it is.

[–]shoe_owner 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

If I'm not mistaken, is it not originally a pea-flavoured soft drink manufactured in southern Germany?

[–]simmen92 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is also a type of ants.

[–]shoe_owner 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The fact that this is factually true would have made it a funnier joke reply than the nonsense I came up with. I wish I'd thought of it first.

[–]doubleunplussed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damnit I wasted time googling in case you were serious :(

I wanted another smartass way to refer to GG on a certain blog instead of the usual "reproductively viable female worker ants"

[–]M1ST1C 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd like to note that I'm not proposing these deletions out of misogynism or callousness towards alleged victims of cyberbullying.

Don't harass me plox

[–]Solace1 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The new "Don't tase me Bro !"
Equally as effective

[–]Irvin700 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

Geez, can wikipedia really get that bad behind-the-scenes?

[–]oconnomiyaki 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

I always felt Wikipedia was a sham after that dude faked being a PhD in religious studies (or something), but this whole saga has really opened my eyes to how it's really just a tool for a bunch of mentally ill individuals to push their narrative and feel better about their empty lives.

[–]Hurin_T 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fundamental problem is that normal people will not spend several hours a day editing wiki articles for no pay. Wikipedia attracts editors who are mentally ill and puts them in positions of power. At this point I only trust it to get information on Anime.

[–]simmen92 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wikipedia is so bad that when Philip Roth contacts them directly saying they got it wrong about the inspiration for his book "The human stain" he was told he weren't a credible source and needed a secundary source (a "trusted" newspaper)

[–]xxXRetardistXxxBanned from Wikipedia and Ghazi and Reddit 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

yes, i was on that shit up until arb com, i got banned shortly after that for including a list of sources that "MAY" have said slightly bad things about anti-gg. It's like the legal process run by children who sort of know what law is but are stupid and cry when they don't get their way.

[–]CaesarCzech 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

How come Masem is still alive ?

[–]xxXRetardistXxxBanned from Wikipedia and Ghazi and Reddit 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

He is an admin and is 100% reasonable but he gives too much ground. (although he has a similar sort of devotion to the article time wise, just not absolutely mental)

[–]CaesarCzech 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well Bernestein is about to get lost in endless plains of Russia it seems. any advice how to get 500 edits on wiki and how to engage in gg article ? i think baiting Bernestein might work a bit.

[–]xxXRetardistXxxBanned from Wikipedia and Ghazi and Reddit 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

He is like the riddler, don't bother baiting him, nothing productive will come out of it.

[–]CaesarCzech 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

well as Arkham knight proved Ridller can be broken

[–]xxXRetardistXxxBanned from Wikipedia and Ghazi and Reddit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

to break mark, start supporting eastgate systems (he link it on his userpage) it'll drive him insane to know that the terrorists support his company that he founded

[–]Tarrock 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just curious but does anyone know what this guy does for a living?

Seriously who the fuck spends their free time argueing internet politics on wikipedia?

[–]mnemosyne-0000#BotYourShield / https://i.imgur.com/6X3KtgD.jpg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Archive links for this post:


I am Mnemosyne, goddess of memory. I remember so you don't have to.

[–]its_never_lupus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for writing the summary OP and congratulations on turning this quagmire into an entertaining tale.

I'm surprised no admin has banned this Bernstein character from editing the GG page. He's way past the point of even pretenting to be editing in good faith.

[–]its_never_lupus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Must be something about Batman that appeals to the reality-challenged. This isn't the first time a fanatical anti-GG activist has compared themselves to him.

[–]craftykike 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really don't understand how these cocksuckers have been able to circumvent wikipedia rules regarding verifiability for this long

[–]MaleGoddessAchievememt: banned +4 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Back in December they removed the article on Cultural Marxism. It now gets a footnote in the "Frankfurt School Conspiracy Theory" article...

[–]FuckAllRedditCEOs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

NickCT, who had discussed it on Wales' Talk, proposed four Gamergate-infamous articles for deletion: Brianna Wu, Zoe Quinn, Depression Quest, and Fredrick Brennan.

For once I agree with the deletionists. Or else we'll end up with every last "famous on Twitter" guy.

[–]xxXRetardistXxxBanned from Wikipedia and Ghazi and Reddit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This inflates his ego, stop paying him attention.

[–]Aleitheo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How does threatening to shoot Anita Sarkeesian address an ethical issue in video game journalism?

Nobody but anti-GG claims there is any relation. His statement is as ridiculous as "How does wanting genocide on all men address equality for all human beings? It doesn't, therefore feminism isn't about that at all despite what feminists say". Heck those incidents have nothing to do with Gamergate, they are just horrible things that anti-GG decided were committed by GG.

[–]H_Guderian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

this was a good format for the updates, pretty long, but much better than the usual Wikipedia updates.

Remove Bearenstein from the article for a month and he'll either go outside or hang himself.

[–]radixius 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wikipedia: Not Even Once

[–]peenoid 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

"It’s hard for a movement to call itself a movement when it ignores most of the rules movements tend to follow — having clear platforms, representatives, and so on. Anyone can use the #GamerGate hashtag, and anyone can claim a given use of that hashtag doesn’t represent “real” GamerGate." This so-called movement lacks any of the defining characteristics of a movement. Some people claiming to be part of the so-called movement say they call themselves a movement, but we can't know if they're representative or not.

Couldn't I say the exact same thing about feminism, Mark?

[–]TURBOSLUT420 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Mark does not understand hypocrisy. He claims GG and wiki are conspiring against him but in reality he is the loudest voice of all and regularly conspires with likeminded editors to overwhelm everyone else with sheer dedication and stubbornness until they just don't want anything to do with the article anymore. He calls for "backup" on twitter and I am sure through other channels often.

He claims that the GG article in its current state is as factual as possible based on the "reliable sources" which in reality are extremely biased and not well researched. Every single source relies on the premise that Zoe's/Brianna's version of events is 100% factual and based in reality without getting the other side of the story. None of the media outlets considered that Zoe and Brianna are both profiting from all of this and perhaps might exaggerate things that nobody can prove or disprove (like claims of anonymous harassment).

And Mark knows that this is the case. He smugly wikilawyers anyone that tries to object to the sources used. He also invokes stuff like "so you support sexual harassment against women?" and things of that nature in order to silence all opposition. It is ridiculous really.

[–]SomeThrowAwayForKiA [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The real fun begins on August 16th--assuming AirPlay is a rousing success for us--because how will they spin it? Will Bernstein & Co. try to claim the SPJ as an unreliable source? The lulz will commence on the 16th!