PETITION: Remove /r/rapingwomen and /r/beatingwomen - PLEASE UPVOTE (this is a throwaway account; I receive no karma)

Dr_fish · 3年前

PLEASE UPVOTE (this is a throwaway account; I receive no karma)

Had to check I wasn't in /r/circlejerk

slickboarder89 · 3年前

I feel like this just happened with r/jailbait. Another Subreddit that disgusts me and I want no part of. However, even they deleted it, and if they delete these ones, someone else will just make a new one under a similar name. It won't stop people from posting things they aren't supposed to. I mean, this is the internet we are dealing with.

mrpopenfresh · 3年前

There is no karma related so self posts anyways.

[deleted] · 3年前

I think I need to go back to /r/trees... I'm scared.

ObamaisYoGabbaGabba · 3年前

good job bringing lots of attention to them... ಠ_ಠ

Warlizard · 3年前

Sorry, can't support you.

I think both of those subreddits suck, but either we support freedom of speech or we don't.

There's no half-way.

EDIT: To make it more understandable... If the subreddit were a guide on how to beat women, ways to get away with it, instructions on how to keep the police from believing the person who'd been beaten, and things of that nature, then you'd have a case to take it down. As it is, it's just morons who think they're funny putting up pictures.

Glucksberg · 3年前

How about we troll these subreddits? Rather than banning them, just go on there with throwaway accounts and post thousands of pictures that are pro-women's rights until they get pissed.

HigHIdrA · 3年前

These are subreddits but /jailbait had to go. Violence against women is allowed to stay but no 17 year old in bikinis. Bravo Reddit.

mamjjasond · 3年前

To all those in favor of leaving shit like this in place:

To argue that everything has to be protected under free speech is just replaying the same tired old "slippery slope" logical fallacy.

It's also employing the sophistication of a light bulb ... all or none thinking, another stupid logical fallacy.

What a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that it's okay to be subjective. You do it all the time.

You let your friend in your house, but you don't let some stranger in. Why?
Someone is outside your bedroom window screaming their head off while you are trying to sleep. How are you feeling about their free speech?
Someone finds out your personal address, social security number, dick size, and everything else about you and posts it online .... you probably try to have it taken down, right? Why? FREE SPEECH, REMEMBER? Everything needs to be allowed or else we're all fucked, right?

If not, then ... waitaminute ... turns out you must have some definition of a line that can't be crossed, siting laws or morals or whatever logic suits your purposes

It's just that you draw the line to allow mockery of raped and beaten women, but not your personal information.

You're not being "fair", you're being amazingly stupid.

-- a guy who thinks shit should be cleaned up.

Nebakanezzer · 3年前

"there doenst seem to be anything here"

with a reddit cartoon guy raping a female one with blood coming out of her ass

wow. how is even the 404 error page disgusting and offensive

then there's this: http://www.reddit.com/r/beatingwomen/comments/nipvp/the_feminist_i_raped_and_then_beat_to_death_from/

I've always had a "everything has to be fair game in order for comedy to work" standpoint, but i really dont think anyones getting a hearty chuckle out of that shit. theyre getting hard ons, and we're providing them a place where they can live out these fantasies. all reddit needs is for one of these idiots to act out that shit and when feds storm his place and take his computer, blame reddit. besides the obvious that some woman somewhere would be raped and killed.

duckydot28 · 3年前

I don't give a shit about subreddits that promote fetishes, but when they begin crossing the line into promoting abuse or violence is when it gets taken too far.

Cdresden · 3年前

I just looked at those subreddits, and the stuff posted there is unconscionable. I'm angry. In my gut, not only do I want to ban those users and subreddits, part of me wants to physically punish them for posting that stuff.

It's very difficult to support things like these subreddits and these users. The folks who run Reddit provide us with a wonderful free service, and glorifying the worst kind of violence is an abuse of honest generosity. The users and moderators of those subreddits are mentally ill.

But this is the price of free speech. I'm glad you brought these subreddits to the attention of the general readership, because they need to be monitored. If they break any laws, they should be shut down. But so long as they don't, we need to allow them to continue.

I think this is what you might call a wedge issue. It starts out small, banning r/jailbait, etc. The most offensive material circumvents our sense of reason, and we respond emotionally.

neverbeard · 3年前

At first I thought: Free speech, right? Then I went to r/beatingwomen. If you have anything to say on this subject, I suggest you go there before commenting. That is disgusting.

DoesNotTalkMuch · 3年前

You want them to be removed then file charges. Reddit only removes illegal content.

bottom_dweller · 3年前

I don't support raping or beating anyone, but I do support free speech and so I'm afraid that I won't be upvoting your petition.

parts_of_my_brain · 3年前

Those subreddits actually serve a useful purpose by keeping those topics out of other subreddits. When jailbait was closed, the content from there started being posted to other subreddits, and we'll have to keep looking at it until it finds a new home. If your petition passes, the people who post there will probably troll twoxchromosones for a while, until the censors give up and let them have a new home. i don't support violence either, but i think containment of that content is actually a good thing.

radioblondegirlish · 3年前

really? this petition's going nowhere because we're more afraid of violating free speech of the rape redditors than protecting women's rights? so now those subreddits just got lots of attention and are bigger than ever and they aren't going to be removed? Well, you're "democracy" and "free speech" reminds me a lot more of a third world african country than any real concern about rights. Despite all of reddit's ridiculous sexist jokes and large male population, I'm starting to think reddit is actually misogynistic and I am no longer welcome here.

toshitalk · 3年前

Ouch. Cannot unsee.

burntxxtoast · 3年前

Wtf is wrong with people?

[deleted] · 3年前

I had no idea these subreddits even existed

Reddit___Police · 3年前

I emailed Anderson Cooper about that subreddit, let's see if he gets that deleted too.

BCP6J9YqYF6xDbB3 · 3年前

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[deleted] · 3年前

FREE SPEECH FREE SPEECH POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD!!!!

Introducing /r/prisonrape. Coming soon to Reddit along with /r/killallthewhitepeople and /r/tinypenises Enjoy!

IAMAnarrogantbastard · 3年前

Since everyone here seems to be jerking of to decontextualized voltaire, I thought I'd throw in my own philosophical quotes, equally out of context, yet at least modern.

*The rights of a group end where the rights of an individual begin.". Amin Maalouf

and to paraphrase another, whose name I have forgotten: tradition should be respected to the extent to which it is respectable

The rights of a subreddit to post content end where the rights of an individual to feel safe begin.

These reddits promote a culture that violates individual rights.

These subs deserve no respect, no tolerance, for they are neither respectable nor tolerable.

jumpjumpdie · 3年前

Fucking disgusting. Close those subreddits now.

hayekd · 3年前

Rape and beatings are in some ways more horrible than murder b/c the victim is left with memories to haunt them. On a grander societal level, a very strong correlation can be made between respect and freedom from violence towards woman and the health of a culture. Hurting and beating others only makes us pathetic, miserable creatures with no greater purposes. Besides use your mirror neurons, these are terrible acts that damage people for lifetimes with repercussions that spread to other generations.

Why do we care if these individuals can't share their hatred on Reddit? There are numerous other avenues online where they can choose to congregate. Let them live in the bowels of the internet. Reddit has too much potential to waste it's time on such pitiful expressions of human thought.

LurkerNoMore23 · 3年前

Some sick fucks on that subreddit. Take it down Reddit Gods!

Tarkaan · 3年前

If something illegal is going on, you need to report it to the admins.

If there's something going on in those subreddits you don't like, you need to change the channel. Maybe push back from the keyboard, take a deep breath, walk outside, take a little walk around the block, and relax.

You can make decisions about what content you want to view, that's your choice. But you can't choose for me. Fuck you if you try to choose for me.

edify · 3年前

I rather enjoy seeing the dirt bags of reddit pointed out in subreddits like this and I use RES to tag them as such.

It's like a catch, release, and monitor program like they do with sharks, but with morons online.

Eustis · 3年前

No. Freedom of speech, and all that. Don't like it? Don't go there.

Of note: I have never, nor do I intend on visiting those subreddits. Their existence is merely an exercise of free speech, which I fully support.

whirlingderv · 3年前

I cannot think of any logical criteria for banning those subreddits other than the fact that they relate to unseemly, unethical, and illegal behavior, but that same argument can be made for many subreddits that morally upstanding redditors hold dear, like /r/trees (illegal), /r/gonewild (unseemly, sometimes immoral if pics posted without permission, sometimes illegal if posts of underaged persons), etc... The only criteria, then, is that it offends us, but so do a bunch of racist, misogynistic, mean-spiritied other subreddits. Of course no one wants any women beaten or raped (least of all me, even if simply out of self-interest), but I can't get on board with this. I recognize and appreciate your passion for this cause, however.

I think the truly democratic response is to speak out against it, or better yet, ignore it because the positive OR negative attention is a reward in itself for people like this.

funkymonkeyq · 3年前

damn, thanks for pointing out this untenable bullshit.

Reddit, get rid of these subreddits.

epm011 · 3年前

I don't understand how you can say this is against the freedom of speech, there are limits. I don't think that anyone in their right mind will call freedom of speech when you're taking away a hub for the beating and rape of women.

Beating and rape are not interests, they are crimes and maybe these particular people aren't directly involved, but they are supporting and advocating this.

DenimChicken154 · 3年前

freedom of speech or not, this is just fucked up. i feel gross for looking at it and now i'm probably on some government list for seeing what the fuss was about.

Aspel · 3年前

I don't like them, but I would like to point out that neither of them are really that bad, and at least the subreddits that violentacraz makes are pretty much there to cause controversy.

He makes a lot of subreddits specifically because people say they shouldn't be made. He's also apparently a ridiculously good guy, who even made it a banworthy offense to say tranny or shemale on /r/tgirls.

I wouldn't really worry about most of them being actual rapists, because Reddit is probably the last place you'd want to come for good rape porn. Although it should be noted that of the subscribers to those subreddits, it's a fair bet that many of them are actually women. Raptophilia is one of the most common fetishes among women. Though I think the only one of the violent porn subreddits I like is /r/chokeabitch. Mmm, breath play. If only I had someone trusting...

GOR31LLY · 3年前

There is a difference between between free speech and hate speech.

Enkayess · 3年前

I think that appealing to freedom of speech in this case is a dubious argument. Freedom of speech is of course a vital ingredient in any free society. But things like the first amendment are put in place to protect speech from government interference, and does not (and should not) have anything to say about what private communities like Reddit should tolerate in the name of free speech. The question is not whether rape advocates should have any forum at all to discuss their views. It's a question of whether we of Reddit want to allow this sort of thing to take place under our auspices. Reddit, like any other community, has its values, and I think that, the small percentage of people participating in subreddits like the ones under discussion aside, we're solidly of the opinion that 1) rape is disgusting and 2) it should not be encouraged or celebrated. This isn't controversial. I don't think that pro-rape advocates have a place in my Reddit; they can go somewhere else.

rageintheheights · 3年前

I'm going to support this largely because I hold "not supporting the beating and raping of people" above complete and total free speech. I'd rather be apart of a community that recognizes that free speech is incredibly important, but also that some people are scum, and its not a terrible compromise to our free speech principles to say, not give those terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad people a forum for reveling in the raping and beating of people.

[deleted] · 3年前

You do realize that all you're doing is giving these people a lot of free promotion, right? Even if these subreddits are shut down, what do you think will happen? Everyone involved will say to themselves, "Wow. I was so immature. I need to stop this!" No. They're going to create new subreddits. Has the music industry's folly taught us nothing?

Parisa4 · 3年前

Honestly I don't know what to say. I find this disgusting regardless of whether or not these are being used just for jokes, and also the fact that people are willing not only to acknowledge them but allow their existence for the purpose of free speech. Yes, those people have a right to say what they want and no one can stop them, but what about the women in those pictures? They have no choice in the matter, but some people are willing to allow it because of "free speech". I'm sure this won't change the minds of any of its supporters and I'm not aiming to do so. I just want them to realize that this is a slippery slope in two directions. While they defend the right of speech there's the other side, how okay is it to display the trauma of other people? Sure, great, we can say whatever the hell we want, but we're tumbling down the other side of that hill and letting wretched wretched ideas and images, that only a human with the lowest of moralities could EVER find funny, be thrown about regardless of the victims and their right to speech. And I GUARANTEE there are plenty of sick bastards getting more than laughs from this. Juts think about that.

thedevilsdictionary · 3年前

Request denied.

Have a happy new year.

gpwilson · 3年前

Got in an argument with another redditor a few days ago. He gave these as examples of the real world. These 2 specificaly made me want to barf r/rape, and r/daddyissues. Seeing these banned would make my day. Just writing them down makes me feel dirty.

Stratisphear · 3年前

I am heavily against this. I was against the removal of /r/jailbait as well. You may not like it, but people deserve free speech. As long as there is nothing illegal, I oppose any attempts you may make to take that right away from us.

Some people are as disgusted by /r/islam. Should we remove it? No. We must defend to the death a person's right to free speech, no matter what they have to say. I fully support the WBC's right to scream their hateful slogans, though I hate them for their views. I fully support those people's right to say what they want, so long as they are not harming women purely for those subreddits. To quote:

Though I do not agree with what you have to say, I will defend to the death your right to say it.

-Voltaire

Madknight5 · 3年前

I am speechless.

btirabail · 3年前

I'm torn on this. I believe in freedom of speech and expression, however r/jailbait was removed because of the child porn bit. It was a fact of illegal activity was going on. Raping and domestic violence isn't legal either, be it man, woman, or child who is the victim.

thecritic06 · 3年前

How many people have actually read what these subreddits are like? This user posted in this discussion earlier. Read what they've posted recently.

tom_skerritt · 3年前

Jesus christ, I had no idea reddit facilitated this kind of thing. It makes me want to fucking puke, I'm all for freedom of expression and all that but there's no excuse for the posts found on those subreddits.

MissJinxed · 3年前

the r/picsofdeadkids is pretty disgusting too. I can't believe pigs that engage in subreddits like these actually exist, it always amazes me.

sharilynj · 3年前

TIL that Redditors don't understand the difference between free speech and hate speech.

Journalisto · 3年前

While we are at it, please remove r/pro_teen_models and other such subeddits that promote that type of material.

Korthos · 3年前

Why are there such subreddits... ಠ_ಠ

TheSilverFalcon · 3年前

On one hand, the tyranny of the majority is dangerous. On the other hand, what fucking scum! Tough choice.

throwaway-account-01 · 3年前

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GD0512 · 3年前

Well, if anything, they could at least combine the two reddits to make r/getbackinthekitchen

JordanMcRiddles · 3年前

I'm officially scarred for life. LIFE.

jumpjumpdie · 3年前

I'd like to make a point here. If these subreddits get shut down... and people cry freedom of speech.. so fucking what? What will they then say? "Um well... we had this forum where we talked about how to beat women...and then some COMMIE BASTARDS shut it down..."

So fucking what? What sort of support will this garner? Shut the thing down.

drunkendonuts · 3年前

I don't support this petition.

Liverotto · 3年前

I do believe in free speech, but

I am not a racist, but

I am not a misogynist, but

I don't want to rape you in the butt, but

thomdabomb · 3年前

well these are controversial topics and unfortunately they exist and need to be addressed. Subject matter within the subruddit should be monitored and inappropriate content discouraged. knowledge is power, corruption is common, karma is real.

1n2n3n4JAZZHANDS · 3年前

Get rid of /r/whiterights while you're at it. IT is clearly a racist subreddit.

sabrd · 3年前

I don't know if I'm going to get down-voted for this, but I think we shouldn't get rid of /r/rapingwomen and /r/beatingwomen . I personally don't go on those, but us Redditors have been trying to fight the SOPA bill, which censors the Internet. If we get rid of those subreddits, we'll look like we support the idea of censorship and it could possibly be used against us. Let the people do what they want. If you have a problem with those subreddits, don't go to them. Simple as that.

fasullow · 3年前

This honestly scares me, I am not sure if the people in those subreddits are serious, but every so often there is bound to be at least one person who is serious.

Cutsprocket · 3年前

well then we should close down /r/drugs and /r/trees and /r/alcohol too since they encourage self-abusive behavior /s

[deleted] · 3年前

"If Reddit is responsible for even ONE rape, I don't want to be a part of it."

I don't think the internet would be able to FORCE somebody to do it. I'm sure if they are consulting the internet about such a matter seriously, there's not much you could have said to change the matter.

Not2Serious · 3年前

WTFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

I wish I had not even seen those subredits. Ugh, I have no words for my disgust.

No doubt a ton of FBI flags were raised going there as well. FUCK!

andrewsmith1986 · 3年前

We should get rid of /r/shitredditsays if we are up for censorship.

brandi_105 · 3年前

disgusting. a legal technicality may allow this, but societal norms do not. get rid of this shit.

Raeko · 3年前

I believe in free speech as much as the next person but I do not support things like hate speech and threatening speech. I also support the right of this private website to remove whatever it wants for whatever reason it wants; free speech does not apply to privately owned websites.

People can be racists all they want, but should they be allowed to hold klan meetings? This is how I feel about these subreddits. I also believe that they should be removed if Reddit wants to keep any ounce of credibility.

Iruleandyoudont · 3年前

I love how most people are all for "freedom of speech" on this issue, but I'm wondering where is the equality considering the fact that there isn't r/beatingmen or r/rapingthefuckoutofmen? It's unbelievably offensive, maybe not to men but to women. Consider how long it took for women to stop feeling that they are lesser than men? And even now there are still women who feel inadequate compared. If you look at it as a freedom of speech issue fine, but look at it also as a women's rights issue as well I have yet to see subreddits that subjugate men. I'm not a feminist at all but I find it disturbing that we allow people to post such vile and upsetting things to bring us back into a prehistoric thought process where men take their women by force and women do what they're told? It's simply offensive. If you're not offended maybe you don't quite understand it.

Understandable we all laugh at the occasional "don't drop the soap" joke but to consider it freedom of speech to post up violent an threating images that oppress groups based on sexality, gender, or even race is wrong at least in my opinion. If someone were to have a r/hitlerwasrightkillallthejews people would be offended and stand up and it'd be considered racist, but because it's women...it's not important it's freedom of speech they should be allowed to post whatever they want.

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