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[–]IAmNinoBrownAMA 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the inverse existed on Reddit it would be banned in a heartbeat.

[–]nocommentyet 36ポイント37ポイント  (4子コメント)

He got everyone riled up for that AMA, just think of all the views and increased participation. Other than Pao, I firmly believe the top Reddit admins always love this drama, and outrage, and trolling. The pain that this causes is icing on top. They relate much more readily to the Chimpire subs than to any of us.

With these new rules, there will be many more racist subscribers since they have to get (free, easy) accounts to browse the largest hate community on the web. Now they won't be passive, but active Reddit contributors. And there's nothing to stop these new members from going everywhere else spreading bile, "dindu nuffin" jokes, and racist copypasta. Things will be worse, and any black person could have told them that, but the admins don't care. They just got officially sanctioned as part of the Reddit platform.

I knew that there was no way one of the founders of Reddit would ever understand how bad it is to lead one of the largest platforms for hate in the world. That's what Reddit is, and I think maybe they're proud of the notoriety.

For many years I've loathed the Chan mentality that celebrates inhumanity for the sake of edge. This hypocritical website is actually worse! I'm disgusted with myself for being here and participating in subreddits that don't tear this place a new one every day. I'm not going to play pretend anymore.

[–]catofnortherndarknes 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

For many years I've loathed the Chan mentality that celebrates inhumanity for the sake of edge.

This is really the sad part, for me. Wanna talk about "culture" and what constitutes a destructive one, as this type are wont to do? This is destructive culture.

[–]Carensza 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm of the opinion that they should be named in a suit as co-conspirators every single time these time these morons incite hatred.

[–]Audacia220 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is what I expected from /u/spez and company. They will never do what is right. They don't have to. Furthermore, they will never come up with an acceptable rationale, there isn't one.

I don't expect /u/spez to address us or any other group with a dedicated hate base. He doesn't value us. It's easier to blend in to a thread with 18k comments than have to speak up with the truth.

[–]redshrekblack dude/ally 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we're more of a dedicated love base.

[–]as_a_black_womandon't dream it's over 32ポイント33ポイント  (3子コメント)

I mean, I honestly thought they would ban it, but now seeing that they won't I don't understand why I thought they would have in the first place.

[–]backgammon_no 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know what you mean. I was fantasizing all day about a reddit that banned hate speech, which would transform it overnight from a massive force of real social damage into the opposite. Then it didn't happen and I had to question why the fuck I thought it would. Blinded by that /u/yishan post I guess.

The worst is that that post proved beyond a doubt that all the leadership is fully aware of what this site is all about. They choose to coddle the racists and sexists knowing full well what they do.

[–]catofnortherndarknes 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh, I never thought they would.

Maybe what the mods have archived and shared with them will now be enough to get them to develop some mod tools to at least keep them out of here. I wish mods could somehow find ISP's and ban those, but I suppose that might lead to fears of doxxing, since you could probably tell where someone is by their ISP if you wanted to do so.

[–]coco5715 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is exactly how I feel. I feel ridiculous for being hopeful earlier this week.

[–]IrbyTremor[M] 56ポイント57ポイント  (13子コメント)

/u/spez you really want to see some deleted comments? Why dont you come the fuck in here and look at how /r/coontown definitely doesn't harass? Hrm?

How about that. Fucking wad of dogshit.

[–]pro_creator[M] 52ポイント53ポイント  (3子コメント)

Harassment? From racists?? On THIS website??? Pshaw!!

[–]IrbyTremor[M] 54ポイント55ポイント  (2子コメント)

And there go the PMs!! But its clearly all in our heads.

No one

from ChimpStrangler [H] sent a minute ago

Cares about a worthless nigger. Go cry somewhere else

permalinkreportblock usermodreplyfull comments

[–]FixinThePlanet 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like crying. I'm so sorry.

[–]ArsenicAndRoses"White" Girl 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you for putting up with this shit to mod this sub. You're my hero <3

[–]redshrekblack dude/ally 40ポイント41ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey irbyTremor, you and the mods do a good job here in spite of the admins. If you're ever in the Seattle area, give a holla cause I owe you a drink.

[–]IrbyTremor 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks <=3

Might take you up on that

[–]GeneralBuharinaija 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

Reddit's underlying philosophy is anarchocapitalist, and as long as the genuine black subs stay here they lend reddit as a brand some legitimacy (of at least not being 4chan), and so will continue to tolerate hate subs for as long as possible. That's why they keep coming up with arbitrary rules when threatened by the presence certain subs (FPH recently). They've proved time and time again they will prioritise racists and coontown over black people, the message is clear that the only solution is to leave reddit by going private or moving to another site. The threat of that alone and the media fallout if carried out will send a far stronger message to the admins, Reddit community and advertisers than having to plead with them to stop racism. If it doesn't boggle the mind that one's humanity should be up for debate or under the banner of "free exchange of ideas", any more than raping women is just free expression, then Reddit will never address our issues.

[–]cheese93007 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Long story short: set up somewhere, and shut these subs down permanently with a reason why

[–]GunvorsejlNkosi Sikelel' iAfrika 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll be so fucking sad if this place closes though, it's one of my favourite places on the internet

[–]meqek 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we were debating about where else we could go in another post.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

anarchocapitalism

Excuse me, I'm going to go puke my entire digestive system out.

It's an oxymoron, it is.

[–]Mur-cie-lagoWhere the black women at? 54ポイント55ポイント  (10子コメント)

Found this nugget of wisdom that touches on this VERY clearly from /u/The_Wizard_Of_Wang

Because the admins are fat, not black.

Edit: Buying me gold just pays the admins salary.

Edit 2: I have now, predictably, been shadowbanned.

[–]the_undine 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

O_o

Do you happen to have the original link for that comment?

[–]Mur-cie-lagoWhere the black women at? 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

Sorry for the wait, here you go :)

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/39bpam/removing_harassing_subreddits/cs20zu9

[–]the_undine 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thank you!

I'm not sure what the rules are since this is an announcement, but you may need to make this into an np link. So "http://np" at the beginning instead of "https://www" :)

[–]Mur-cie-lagoWhere the black women at? 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Thanks for the tip, I found out through the mods that its a repost(it was already linked back about a month ago when FPH got booted), so I am kinda on fence about it. Let me know what you think?

[–]the_undine 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hmm, honestly I'm not really sure...

The mods are usually hanging out and speedy to respond to questions and stuff. I don't think they would mind if you wanted to ask them something. :) From my understanding, all outgoing links to reddit (links to things on other subreddits, comments and topic links both) need to be np. It's to stop the sub from being accused of brigading and stuff.

[–]Mur-cie-lagoWhere the black women at? 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just did and the replies from the mods were instant, I love this sub :) they gave me their blessings.

[–]TheYellowRose 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

he edited his original comment once he saw this lol, in the future, just use archive.is to get an archive of the original comment

[–]Carensza 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

/u/supcaci props for being eloquent and writing such a well thought out response. /Brava

[–]supcacifollow @redditshine on twitter 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks!!!

[–]lottikey 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

Girls...how are you doing this? The more I read about site news and the reactions of it, the more I just want to call it quits. This, /r/Naturalhair, /r/webdev, and a few other women-centric subs are the last lines before I just want to call it a day for good. I know it's annoying and hypocritical to repeat this but I keep hoping it'll get better. No other site has caused me a headache about obvious things...

The admins will rationalize that all the racist subs aren't on par (they're far worse) than FPH because they simply don't care. I've been thinking of joining or creating a project where it's a forum like Reddit, but not with all this bogus muh freeze peach baggage.

[–]IrbyTremor 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

Whether or not we let Reddit go I've been giving a lot of thought to an offsite gig. Something like a blog/forum community not unlike Clutch or the way they do some of the hair sites.

[–]lottikey 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I really wasn't considering another site to create, but I'm strongly thinking of so now. I have a forum in mind. I talked with another user, but it's been a while...I'm holding out because when I start something I finish it and I don't want to commit unless I'm in it 100%.

[–]IrbyTremor 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was also considering making an FB group. But even just in general.

Keep us updated!

[–]GeneralBuharinaija 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously, Reddit will continue to tolerate those content as long as we can't do the right thing (not affiliating our communities with Reddit), given all the evidence in the world that they'll never get it. If white people were ready to shut down the default subs over firing an employee or banning fatpeoplehate, what does it say about us just writing angry worded letters in the hope they'll address festering racism on this site?

[–]IrbyTremor 103ポイント104ポイント  (51子コメント)

/u/spez you know damned well this is bullshit. I figured this would happen. Coontown absolutely harasses and spams. We just sent a barrage of evidence to you all and have been doing so forever.

Clearly, the admins are afraid of the fallout.

This shit is weak as fuck.

[–]marsyred 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

the sub name alone is harassment. if it was written on a wall it would be a hate crime. it's really insane they'd let this slide. maybe we can start a petition?

[–]fsmpastafarian 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

The crux of it is they harass and spam a group that the admins don't care about and obviously can't empathize with, so in their mind it's a small and insignificant problem.

[–]IrbyTremor 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

its a group, a race, its more than this sub.

they know coontown is a major problem. /u/Yishan didnt specifically namedrop them for no reason, but, he's also not white.

Its that doing something would stand in the way of poaching 4chan/8chan's userbase and monetizing it.

They're rolling out the welcome mat.

[–]redshrekblack dude/ally 35ポイント36ポイント  (37子コメント)

Pretty much semantic games on the part of /u/spez

[–]IrbyTremor 55ポイント56ポイント  (36子コメント)

I fucking DARE him to come in here and address this weak, wimpy bullshit. We just sent them another huge wad of evidence they harass. Especially this sub. Hell, I could just show them my personal block list and PMs and so could just about every other moderator/user here.

They are straight wimping out.

[–]grambleflambleCo-conspirator. 49ポイント50ポイント  (7子コメント)

Would taking all of those screenshots and PMs and shit public do anything at all? So many people are like, "Where's the proof" and maybe if it all got put together into a post/blog/something that can get spread around, people might ... fuck, I don't know. I just want to shove it in everyone's faces, like "this is what is happening. this is what is getting ignored."

[–]fsmpastafarian 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

I like this idea a lot. So many people question that the harassment is even happening, but maybe making some of those screenshots public would cause enough of a PR nightmare for them that they'd actually be incentivized to ban it.

[–]grambleflambleCo-conspirator. 48ポイント49ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly. I mean, make a gallery of screenshots and hit up Twitter. #racistreddit

[–]supcacifollow @redditshine on twitter 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

This. Shame the shit out of them.

[–]marsyred 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes, it will get media attention, even if it is just from jezebel & gawker this is a great idea.

[–]multirachaelMagic Mulatto 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Proof has been posted in the past, and people just dig through the history of the mods of this sub and go, "OH WELL, THIS BLACK LADY IS THE REAL RACIST, LOOK AT HOW DISGUSTING AND HATEFUL SHE IS TO WHITE MALES, GAWD, SO HORRIBLE, OF COURSE SHE WOULD PLAY THE VICTIM! TROLL!"

[–]awesomejohnson 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Huff Post? John Quinones? Fucking somebody wants to profit off of controversy, whether they're empathic or not...

[–]supcacifollow @redditshine on twitter 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is my thinking - I'm making a list of folks in the media who have been writing about this. /u/spez wants to ignore it now? Ok, how about when major news outlets have the proof of what you've been ignoring for so long?

[–]midwestprotestno rest in the midwest 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

I fucking DARE him to come in here and address this weak, wimpy bullshit.

Right?

[–]redshrekblack dude/ally 26ポイント27ポイント  (16子コメント)

They won't which is fine but his weak bullshit is an insult to our collective intelligence.

[–]IrbyTremor 31ポイント32ポイント  (15子コメント)

Motherfucker can sit and spin until he catches fire.

[–]redshrekblack dude/ally 26ポイント27ポイント  (12子コメント)

This is why I keep ad-blockers and Ghostery running when I'm on this site. The values that /u/spez and /u/kn0thing hold are ones I won't support and help monetize. They can make their beds with the the Chimpire folks but let's not get it twisted, passiveness towards the Chimpire is tantamount to support for it.

[–]IrbyTremor 17ポイント18ポイント  (8子コメント)

I am slapping adblock back up after reading this. Whats Ghostery?

[–]redshrekblack dude/ally 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ghostery is an add-on that helps protect your privacy. The added benefit is it blocks third party ad widgets.

Ghostery for Firefox

[–]IrbyTremor 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Getting it.

[–]wisesonACcounting down the days until the black panther movie!! 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

What about chrome?

[–]cardboardsoles 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Adblock blocks ads. Ghostery block other trackers like google analytics, tracking cookies, etc.I use it, NoScript and ad block together.

[–]the_undine 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

How do you go about setting things up to ban all reddit ads?

[–]Mship2 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know. Your right I should fire up my ad block for this place as well.

[–]redshrekblack dude/ally 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can even install ad-block and Ghostery on your Android phone.

[–]redshrekblack dude/ally 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol

[–]the_undine 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

haha, golden.

[–]Kamala_Metamorph 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Make him a temp mod with limited powers so he can see behind the scenes? (Not that he can't make changes anyway, but it's an imperfect idea.)

[–]FixinThePlanet 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

What would happen if you posted that in public? Would it be against the rules?

[–]IrbyTremor 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Stay tuned, it might all get posted soon anyway.

[–]SonorousBlack 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Godspeed.

[–]FixinThePlanet 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh yay. In that announcements thread there are dozens of comments about how nobody from the chimpire ever brigades, and "we would have heard about it if it really happened", and "that mod is a liar" when someone mentioned YellowRose. I am so mad ugh.

[–]HeroOfTheWastes 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Is the wad of evidence posted anywhere? I thought about drumming one up myself but I had a feeling someone was already on it.

[–]IrbyTremor 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, some of its sensitive material.

I can pass you this for the time being though,.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitRedditSays/comments/2ff17g/meta_the_admins_are_now_banning_black_women_who/

This is from last year so its only a sample of the shit they have done. This is also when /u/krispykrackers shadowbanned me and couldnt give me a reason beyond "You're upsetting the white nationalists".

[–]HeroOfTheWastes 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Alright, I understand.

Ah yes, I remember that. There was a huge response from other subs in solidarity as well, which makes a lack of response from the admins even less excusable.

[–]IrbyTremor 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

And they coddle the racists to this day. I never got an explanation for the shadowban either. Not a word.

[–]2Weird2Live2Rare2DieNo longer Texan but still so very white. 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not enough other subs, naturally.

Fucking TwoX.

[–]theworldisbullshit 33ポイント34ポイント  (9子コメント)

The admins probably agree with the shit that's posted on coontown. Why else are they protecting them?

[–]IIIISuperDudeIIII 13ポイント14ポイント  (8子コメント)

Money. Page views. They know the majority of the userbase would destroy reddit and walk out if they started banning white supremacy.

[–]marsyred 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

i cringe at the idea that a sub like that could bring in revenue

[–]IIIISuperDudeIIII 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

Page views are page views. Advertisers only care when it hurts their brand.

[–]marsyred 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

advertising on a racist hatesub should hurt their brand

[–]IIIISuperDudeIIII 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, it should hurt those brands, and it would, if people knew about it.

But here's the other thing - /u/spez has said that his plan is to continue the hate subs existence, but to limit their abilities to reach the front page (so that they don't get as much attention from the majority of the population). He also wants to be able to "claim" that they don't profit off of the hate subs.

Which is to say - That they want to be able to claim that since these subs don't hit the front page, the profits they make from the hate subs are negligible, compared to the rest of the site, which is something they can probably already claim. They still want to be able to profit off the hate subs, just like all the other subs, but they want to have the option of saying "well, we don't really profit off of them, they only make enough to break even".

And since they'll still be profiting off of the hate subs, they avoid the questions like "Wait, so you're hosting these hate subreddits for FREE, without advertising?? You're essentially penalizing all the LEGITIMATE subreddits, and you're giving the hate subs a free pass to spread their propaganda on your site without any kind of repercussions at all?"

Seriously, having the hate subs on reddit is a lose-lose situation for Reddit. I don't get how he doesn't see this.

But he's in a bit of a pickle, since a majority of this site's users are misogynistic gamers and white supremacists. If he bans them, he loses ALL profitability for this website.

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    [–]cluelessperson 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It won't directly. They're disabling ads on it - washing their hands in innocence, so to speak

    [–]backgammon_no 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So they are actually spending money to host the racists.

    [–]khrystuffer 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So fucking weak. How are you gonna go and say "hope you enjoy Voat, coontown!" but all you do is "reclassify" the sub? Oh, so you made it take a couple of more clicks to get there. What kind of limp-dick bullshit is that?

    [–]grambleflambleCo-conspirator. 42ポイント43ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Welp.

    I actually had hope for once that someone at this company had a spine and a decent value system.

    Silly me.

    /u/spez, this is cowardly. allowing them to stay on this site is literally endorsing racism and encouraging hatred. The only reason I can think of that you guys would let them stay is you're afraid of what they'll do to you, personally via doxxing and stalking, if you ban them. I mean, we've seen how "your people" react when you ban subs about fat hate, so I can only imagine how a group of organized, violent, and well-connected white supremacists would respond.

    But hey, I'm sure this won't cause a rise in their membership at all, since you now have to be a member and subbed. I'm sure that won't make them feel as if they've won. Oh, and now they don't have to look at ads, either? That's supposed to be a punishment? You now host them for free. Okay.

    Man ...

    [–]extroire<is not black. Is also not here for upvotes. 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Seriously, wat? Ooooohhh, darn, now they aren't allowed to be sold to advertisers to make us money... woooooo.

    [–]the_undine 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think that they probably just support racism. Remember when one of the users in here got shadow banned for her "I love being black" post? I don't like going into conspiracy mode but the idea that they allow racists because they themselves are racist seems too logical.

    [–]thanksforalllthefishNigerian-Canadian 44ポイント45ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It is so easy to label something as simply being "offensive", and not important enough to warrant serious action when you're not the individual on the receiving end of it. Are they really so obtuse that they can't see that providing a platform form thousands of people to discuss their IRRATIONAL hatred of us is actually potentially dangerous? These people really don't give a fuck about us, do they.

    I'm actually so over this site.

    [–]catofnortherndarknes 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Truth be told, I wouldn't care that they existed if they could be kept out of here and out of our mods' hair, but all of this makes me think, if folks knew in 1933 what they know now about Joseph Goebbels, and could do anything about it, would they have championed "free speech" then? Propaganda has a HUGE effect, and your general individual tends to think they're a lot more immune to it than they are.

    Now, I'm sure I'm guilty of some Godwin's Law-related offense, but I don't mean to be dramatic. This stuff actually does shape communities and influence ideas, and that's exactly what this type wants. Sure, they could argue that all speech does that, even that of "social justice warriors", but, well, then they can't really complain except to state that the very thing they are guilty of, they resent in others.

    It's all ideological war in the end.

    [–]AisrenTransgender pirate lady 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Fucking weak. They're subsidizing what is probably the largest forum for white supremacists. The kind of shithole where people like the Charleston murderer learn and teach each other. Fucking weak.

    [–]gigaquack 60ポイント61ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Reddit from top to bottom does not care about black people. That has never been more evident in my 8 years on this site.

    [–]Mur-cie-lagoWhere the black women at? 29ポイント30ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Found this nugget of wisdom that touches on this VERY clearly from /u/The_Wizard_Of_Wang[1]

    Because the admins are fat, not black.

    Edit: Buying me gold just pays the admins salary.

    Edit 2: I have now, predictably, been shadowbanned.

    [–]catofnortherndarknes 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I can still see you.

    [–]Mur-cie-lagoWhere the black women at? 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The user who was deleted wasn't me, I'm learning to use links and what not still.

    [–]Dworkinator 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    do you have a link to that?

    [–]lottikey 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    For less confusion, use quotes:

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    [–]interiot 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yup. Yishan summed up the reasons for cleaning up reddit:

    "The ugly elements stand in the way of trying to get more users to use the site (e.g. 'I never recommend reddit to my family/friends now because I'm afraid they'll stumble on something bad their first time and think I'm a bigot')"

    Reddit cares more about sexism than racism, or it thinks new users do anyway.

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      [–]newman91 40ポイント41ポイント  (4子コメント)

      These racist subs are not just people talking, some of these people act on their hate. Dylann Roof was taught hate on the internet from groups like r/coontown.

      Fat people are not killed for being fat but black people are killed for being black. Reddit has no excuse for not banning these racist subs.

      When black people are killed and the shooter says "I learnt hate from r/coontown", that blood will be on reddit's admin.

      [–]Mangalaiii[S] 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

      It's clearly a racist bias of /u/spez.

      [–]IrbyTremor 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I've noticed for all /u/spez has been summoned he's taken time out of his day to post about Orville Redenbachers birthday.

      [–]lovelyone20The Negrotiator 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Fat people are not killed for being fat but black people are killed for being black. Reddit has no excuse for not banning these racist subs.

      Just in case people missed this jem!

      [–]supcacifollow @redditshine on twitter 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I posted a plea to /u/spez in the AMA in the announcements thread. Posting the archived link here in case it gets nuked.

      Edit: Updated link to include latest version, with new links

      [–]BlueSquadron 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

      /u/spez, you really let down an already marginalized community. What's up with that?

      [–]cheese93007 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

      And got all the associated goobers enraged at y'all too. Shook the hornets nest and let them chase you down

      [–]viversemrumo 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Reddit will never ban anti-black subs. I can't believe anyone actually thought they would.

      [–]IrbyTremor 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It would stand in the way of becoming a monetized 4chan.

      [–]GeneralBuharinaija 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

      it's ok to say "I don't like this group of people." It's not ok to say, "I'm going to kill this group of people."

      Because there is totally no relation between the two in the context of American history and black people. When it comes to anti-blackness, they remove all nuance and context that they afford whites. I 'predicted' the same move yesterday when someone was prematurely celebrating the announcement in /r/blackfellas.

      It's all manufactured drama, I'll be quite surprised if there is any real change affecting the status of hate subs on Reddit.

      I'm sure white media will run off with the story about 'reclassification' of coontown and other hate subs, while everything remains the same -- same old default reddit racism and inciting violent treatment of black people and genocide.

      [–]pro_creator 39ポイント40ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Because there is totally no relation between the two in the context of American history and black people.

      Remember that wacky moment in history (as in last fucking month) when one of these unhinged white doods went and murdered 9 black people in a church? And then it turned out that he frequented online hate communities??? Golly gosh, what could be the connection????

      [–]the_undine 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

      None. You really can't take these things out of context. He obviously killed them as a result of his autistic depression and the lack of gun control in this country. /s

      [–]pro_creator 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

      He had no choice, honestly. His bowl cut compelled him to go on a shooting spree. And what a bowl cut wants, a bowl cut gets.

      [–]the_undine 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

      And, I'd like to add, bowl cuts don't even see race. They don't have eyes. Case closed.

      [–]wafflebread 25ポイント26ポイント  (8子コメント)

      /u/spez, you are scum, and so are any other people working with reddit that have the power to remove /r/coontown.

      Honestly all of the black people and any other PoC subs on this website should send you and the admins an official letter stating we will be leaving. Ideally we should reach out to any black celebrities that engage with reddit in any way to never return.

      [–]the_undine 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Or, like, a list of literature describing how serving as a platform for hatred does provoke real world violence. Rodgers and Roof both ate up the kind of shit that subs on reddit are espousing. There's no way you spend all your time dehumanizing other people and then it doesn't bleed over into real life.

      [–]backgammon_no 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      a list of literature describing how serving as a platform for hatred does provoke real world violence

      Actually a good copy pasta about that would come in super handy. I see a lot of comments that are like, "well, lots of people say mean things" - as though the problem is one of hurt feelings. No, assholes, words really do incite people to violence, especially dehumanizing and scapegoating.

      [–]the_undine 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I was actually going to propose that we come up with a resource of our own "pastas." Race "debates" on reddit are too predictable to devote unique attention to them each time, so I think this is a good idea.

      [–]redshrekblack dude/ally 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Doesn't matter if we leave, they will have the numbers they need to make it up via the Chimpire.

      [–]wafflebread 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Oh, I know. But at least they will have to deal with the fact that black people do not want to have any business with this site.

      [–]multirachaelMagic Mulatto 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Sis, do you honestly think their response to that would be anything other than, "Meh?"

      [–]wafflebread 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

      They probably wouldn't care. But at least we wouldn't still be here :/

      [–]multirachaelMagic Mulatto 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm of two minds on this. One is "Wow, if my very presence is trolling these racist motherfuckers into frothing at the mouth, let's ruin their day! I've got plenty of tea!" The other is, "Fuck, it would be great to just look at cat pictures and some news, and interact with a variety of strangers in the world who have diverse opinions without getting attacked and degraded."

      [–]midwestprotestno rest in the midwest 18ポイント19ポイント  (14子コメント)

      Someone please explain why it hurts reddit's bottom line not to keep coontown. I really don't understand it.

      [–]zimboombah 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

      They would tell you it's a slippery slope where free speech is concerned.

      I'm tempted to believe that coontown is getting a LOT of traffic - way more than its 18,000 subscribers would suggest.

      [–]Jetamors 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

      People are saying it gets about the same amount of traffic as Stormfront right now. In a few months it'll probably be the biggest white supremacy forum on the internet.

      [–]cheese93007 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

      You seeing this /u/spez? You shit eating fuckwad? Your host the largest white supremacy forum on the internet and you do God damned fucking nothing about it. Eat shit

      [–]backgammon_no 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      He either approves or doesn't think it matters.

      "Life is hard for everybody. Why, people say mean things about me all the time, but you don't see me complaining about it. " - /u/spez (paraphrased)

      [–]the_undine 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I imagine the admins swimming in a giant pile of reichsmarks Scrooge McDuck style.

      [–]midwestprotestno rest in the midwest 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I can't believe coontown has almost 20,000 subscribers. :/

      [–]Mship2 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

      And that is only the people stupid enough to actually subscriber. I wouldnt be surprised if the sub at at least 5 times as many people who visit it daily.

      I know that I go to Bad_cop_No_donut just about every day, but I dont want it popping up on my stream so I visit it manually at least once a day.

      [–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      That "slippery slope" bullshit is just that, bullshit. Banning coontown doesn't mean they need to ban everybody they disagree with. They could just, ya know, treat every situation as fucking seperate and not attach monolithic codes of conduct to everything.

      [–]jaddeo 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

      They're incompetent. All the East Asians and White people running Reddit are simply incapable of doing a good job, and it's clear privilege go them into the positions that they have now.

      I mean, what in the entire fuck is the point of Reddit pissing off their entire racist userbase by doing nothing? Their actions to stamp out hatred on this website are completely ineffective and fucking useless, yet they want to enrage their userbase over this. FOR WHAT? POC don't feel any safer here. White girls know some other hateful shit is going to pop up in another month or so anyways. This is just plain competency. They don't know how to do their fucking jobs.

      [–]meadeater2014coming out as Black 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Or they share the same values as coontown. I'm sure.

      [–]thatssoravenous 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah...by banning some sub's specifically, but not the racist ones, is an endorsement of racism.

      [–]meqek 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I knew it was too good to be true. I hunted down a good regine gif for nothing.

      [–]cheese93007 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Hey /u/spez I know you can see this you fucking racist shitstain. How about you come on down to this sub and try and explain why the racist subreddits didn't need to go? Oh wait you won't because you're too fucking scared that someone will call you at on your cowardly bullshit. Though maybe you'll ban me for "harassment" for calling your stupid fucking ass out

      [–]backgammon_no 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Though maybe you'll ban me for "harassment" for calling your stupid fucking ass out

      Honestly that's the most likely outcome. He'll be like "stop harassing me. Enough with the endless complaints!"

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        [–]IrbyTremor[M] 41ポイント42ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Where the fuck you at, /u/Spez? Come see all the harassment coontown clearly doesnt do.

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          [–]IrbyTremor[M] 33ポイント34ポイント  (15子コメント)

          Come on /u/spez. Come look at how /r/coontown doesnt harass

          I want you to come in here and personally come see this. I will approve every comment and they keep coming in.

          [–]crazychrisc 15ポイント16ポイント  (13子コメント)

          I say we make an evidence thread in this sub and link it anytime somebody ask do we have proof. Maybe sticky it for visibility.

          [–]IrbyTremor 23ポイント24ポイント  (12子コメント)

          We're already compiling an evidence locker. I dont know about stickying it, but its happening. We have nearly three years of overwhelming evidence.

          [–]supcacifollow @redditshine on twitter 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

          When will you release it????

          [–]khrystuffer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Thank you.

          [–]FixinThePlanet 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Am I allowed to be gleeful

          [–]IrbyTremor 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

          totally!

          [–]FixinThePlanet 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I JUST GOT MY FIRST RACIST PM

          I'm so proud. Thanks /r/blackladies. ;_;

          [–]IrbyTremor 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Welcome to the shitshow! -throws thousands of roses at-

          Send us a screenshot of it, if you'd like. More evidence.

          [–]SonorousBlack 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Please be sure to store/mirror it outside of reddit.

          [–]fsmpastafarian 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Oooh I can't wait to see that!

          [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          We have nearly three years of overwhelming evidence.

          RELEASE IT FOR FUCKS SAKE WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR

          [–]midwestprotestno rest in the midwest 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          We're already compiling an evidence locker

          Good.

          [–]wafflebread 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yay!