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My Chinese Wife From Hell

I married a Chinese woman here in the states she is younger than me. Beautiful and all that. We now have a son. I am an American older white guy. Pretty well educated and open to concepts like discussion and compromise. Well I have to say. My Chinese wife has basically turned out to be the most ignorant and stubborn person I have ever met. I have met lots of people on a global scale and she just has to be the dumbest person on this planet. And has at the same time this inherent attitude of knowing everything when she knows nothing. It is a literal life in hell with this person. Lazy, complaining, always pointing things out as the way to do something unfortunatley the wrong way. She has no concept of partnership it is all basically her way or the way of trouble. I believe she is Narcisistic and it was encouraged within her culture. Such a helpless personality it is like an anchor around your neck. Finally when your down to your last grasp finally getting up the courage to say enough is enough.

The entire hidden culture that these ladies really have in their mental picture is that they are in charge. We husband just bring home the money to the master so to speak.

Well sorry honey not in this movie. I am going to kick this arrogant stupid insensitive non-cultured ignorant argumentative why not me chinese lady TO THE STREET and she can just go run off a cliff for all I care.

What an absolute load of crap I read about all this submissive follow the man culture normative that is suppossed to be cultural.. Well it is the biggest lie that has ever been fed to us westerners.

Even with an arguing nasty uncontrollable tempermant the final straw is drawn in listening day after day to opinions and positions on ways to do things that are so outdated and inherently ignorant that I would need a full lobotomy just to see it as normal.

I love my son so much that I have hanging on by a thread of existance and connection to common consciousness through isolation and connection to REAL PEOPLE that actually have a brain in their head.

At home with just the family is like living in a house of retards.

And she is the most selfish egotistical person I have ever me ever.

Since I am a goner on account of this cow pie I stepped in along my life path it is at this point going to take every last ounce of my courage and energy to survive it focusing focusing all I can on my son my dear sweet son whom I love more than any and all in this world.

I will survive for you my son and come out of this terrible tornado of hell.

Never my dear American fellows. EVER, consider the option of a Chinese wife. Unless by chance your already standing on that cliff ready to jump off and you choose to prolong that jump for just a little while. I ensure you that in the end it will be the happiest jump you ever made separating yourself from that cursid putrid god forsaken heathen of a chinese woman.

Go anywhere, marry anyone, just not a Chinese woman. I emplore you to consider this while you still have a sane brain to think with.

IN all faith and honesty, and standing next to, and with my American brethren, and flag. I write this to you my countryman.

Be forewarned of the gracious smile that will draw you asunder. For it is coming for you too.

Beware.







inahellandahighawater inahellandahighawater 46-50 35 Responses Oct 21, 2012

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All the buddies that have taken off shore brides, have a learnt that we are not only way-behind in so many things here.... in north america, facts about 7 years behind compared to the rest of education and Hi-Tec stuff, Phones and electronic's at least 7 years, after being told ( i hate my wife ) i will looking at our LADIES from this continent, thanks, LOl

Dear Sir
I am intrigued by your experience. I am married to a chinese lady and we are deeply in love and share daily life experiences together and make time for quality time together. Your age difference highlights significant issues and with out knowing either of you I can tell your relationship was doomed from the start. I see a lot of older guys go for the younger Asian school girl like appearance whether Chinese or other Asian culture. A true loving relationship goes beyond appearance. Its not just about the way she looks and combs her hair. They have feelings too. The better you look after your girl the more willing she will be to look after you. First of all do you respect her feelings. Not only feelings but cultural beliefes. Do you understand the Chinese culture or even where she is from. My girl was brought up to respect the man. In real Chinese culture the woman is always respectfully supporting her man in whatever way she can as head of the family. Part of the Chinese culture translates to the wife protecting her family. Husband first and foremost. Sir if I may say so you have failed as a husband to stand by her side. What has caused her to display such behaviour. What have you taught her or should I say not taught her. What have you allowed her to experience besides having your child. Sounds like to me since the birth of your child the novalty has worn of. You no longer want a young mother but a desire for a new start. You desire another barby doll that you can control. Oh sir by the way. Marriage is a two way comittment. Just incase you didn't know.

I have no sympathy for you Sir. In fact. Shame on you for taking advantage destroying a young girls life and changing her life for ever. You are a bad reflection on every other white man trying to find true love. Get a life and find someone your own age.

Sir,
You said you're a "Pretty well educated " person.
Well,
it is "existence" NOT "existance".
It is "focusing" not "focusing focusing".
It is "you're" not "your".
It is "Chinese woman" not "chinese woman".
It is "implore" not "emplore".
It is "unfortunately" not "unfortunatley".
It is "narcissistic" not "narcisistic".
It is "supposed" not "suppossed".
It is "temperament" not "tempermant".
It is "existence" not "existance".
It is "cursed" not "cursid".

Maybe your Chinese wife isn't all that stupid.

First, I am married to a Chinese girl, second you must be some young guy from a non-English speaking country that is used to look up words in a dictionary. And 3rd, you don't understand his chaotic mental state that got stack at the back of his mind. He's actually so disturbed and lost that ended up himself stranded in this internet forum, trying to toss some ultimatum statement. I only can assume that none of his friends are able to understand on such plight

Apparently, you can’t read my user id at the end of my posting. Let me help you, it says “Drafted72”. Got it? So, that means I am an American and was one of those unlucky few men who was drafted by the US government and served during the Vietnam War. Accordingly, that makes me in my 60’s and not some young non-English speaking kid with a dictionary.


Furthermore, I’ve graduated from 3 catholic universities, which place a higher degree of importance on a simple English ability of spelling then the public schools do. I also know how to use and then take the time to use “spell checker”, which the original poster didn’t.


Additionally, I live and work in China and can speak and read Chinese. Therefore, I see and experience more of the Chinese culture and the Chinese people in one day then you or the original poster do in a life time. I also think it shows a lack of class for any man to publicly humiliate his wife and the mother of his son as the original poster did, even if he is doing it anonymously.


If any man chooses to marry outside of his culture without doing any due diligence or a comprehensive appraisal of the difficulties of such cross cultural marriages then he shouldn’t complain and then blame his wife’s culture for his failure. Moreover, if a man doesn’t take the time to check his spelling on a public posting, I doubt if will take the time to properly prepare for a marriage to a woman from a different culture.


Finally, the original poster mentioned he was an “older white guy” while his wife was “younger” the he was. This shows further poor judgment by the original poster in selecting a wife. Not only does he marry someone outside of his culture but of a different generation. Subsequently, he expects the marriage to work. I have seen this so many times here in China. A “old white guy” usually in this 50’s with 1, 2 or 3 divorces under his belt, bald and a waistline to match is age, goes hunting online to “ChineseWife.com” or some similar website. Next they cut, copy and paste to several dozen Chinese women from a catalog. Following this in 2 weeks they find the love of their life from a single picture. Afterwards they come here to China to meet this woman and then get married on their first trip. Then who do these men blame?? They blame and hold responsible their wife or the Chinese culture! Give me a break!

But frankly I and most decent people will dismiss any comments made by someone who goes under the pseudonym of "idontlikechinesefamilies". Are Chinese families any different then families in the rest of the world? They're just like families all over, they want to be able to have a family, raise their kids, and have the security to live their life's in peace without people attacking them. Apparently, these are qualities which you do not respect and adhere to as demonstrated by your ID that you created. Instead, you support a man who humiliates his wife and mother of his son and her culture for his poor judgment.


The Chinese have a wonderful 成语 that goes 痴人痴福.

Let me introduce some on myself here. I'm 38 yo Spanish living in china for about 6 years. I'm not so educated as I'd like to be, however I think that, respectfully, you are not adhering much to reality, but only and profusely to adore Chinese culture in all its deeps. I like Chinese language. 我是自学中文者. 我也知道成语是啥鬼。。。
Respectfully again, you certainly don't know me and you still dare to postulate to the conclusion/judgment that I'm indeed a-someone-to-dismiss that actually you don't even give a dang to figure out of what you are barely aware of.
I'm talking about facts and is happening all in China, many times. You just need to read along scrolling down -it takes times too, but yes, it can be dismissed as me of course...- Nothing for you new to be considered appraise of. Just dismissed.

If I may add to this..... these same middle aged white men complain about American women
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They are looking for a woman who will kiss their *** with out them having to give back! end of story!

Pardon me? Is your comment addressed to all middle white men on earth?
I like china and I want to live in Asia but I can't put up with Chinese families, nor with family ties to Chinese mainlanders (大陆人). I made a lot of friends here and they are mainly north american men. Btw the nicest people for me and best to deal with. They helped me out in many situations accountable, one of my best friends I made in china is from Florida. Hence, if I have another chance to choose my next relationship partner, I won't hesitate to pick up an american woman. Moreover, no way to cast doubt about it for me. North america can claim itself to be the best country. You got the best professionals and professors on earth. You are all open to communicate, highly informative and pleasant.
After my experience of living in china for 6 years, I will strongly hold my own and say it again ... I CAN'T PUT UP WITH CHINESE FAMILIES! I consider them to be quite dysfunctional. Most probably one of the reason of why china is still stuck in the midways as 3rd world countries.
My wife is the most frustrating entity living on earth. She is too stubborn and hard to talk with. It's like I need some guru alongside who could point me the right time to start talking about certain topic got stack in my head. She's just a set of backwards and deliberately dodgy, crafty and expecting me to react out saying "WHAT SUCH A BEAUTIFUL AND PERFECT RELATION I AM HAVING WITH YOU!, I BUY YOU A HOUSE , A CAR AND I WILL TRANSFER ALL MY MONEY AND WILLS BENEFITS DIRECTLY TO YOUR MOM ACCOUNT!"
I mean... I don't need this and Drafted72 is right. Before coming to china I did not do the respective comprehensive appraisal of what could imply me having a serious relationship with any Chinese woman in China. I just did not expected this too happen; to encounter so old-fashioned, backward and immature relationships.

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Dude you have to get your woman under control. I've been with Chinese women and they're no different from any other woman. If you let them run you then they will run you. If you let them know you're in charge and it's your way or the high way they'll either get in line or they'll leave.

How long have you been hanging out with a Chinese women? Have you been married to one of them? Either marriage in china or get marry to a Chinese are both very different to only hanging/going out

Wow, thank you for this. I have also encountered a VERY nArcissitic chinesse woman. My husbands ex. We also are dealing with the chaos she has brought into out life. Now with a huge alimony and child support payment, she thinks she is so entitled to ECERYTHING! She continues to bring stupidly and dumbness to every situation. I feel like I'm dealing with dumb and dumber when it comes to her and my husband. My husband a very hard worker got completely bamboozled by this foreign " love". It is anything but love. It is straight up abuse on a humans soul. Everything you wrote rings so true to our situation! Get out!! Hurry. Cut it off. Try to be there for your son as much as possible. Maybe someday he will understand, and NOT function like his mom. Feeling your pain! Keep your chin up.

Hey sorry about your situation. Although I understand what you are going through (my bf is Chinese, trust me I know), I don't think it's entirely her fault either. Keep in mind that it might be because your expectations don't line up. Most American men expect asian women to be submissive by stereotype and I think you definitely have symptoms of that. I have a white friend who is married to a Thai woman and he is going through the same thing. Women can be tough and independent regardless of their race. But in your defense, most chinese people are only child so of course they are pretty spoiled to begin with. My best advice would be to go through marriage counseling if you're still at it. If you have already divorced then I wish you the best

You are kind of wrong. A relationship, between Chinese man and foreign woman seems to me is nothing like you describe. Chinese women are strategically possessive. They don't trust you by only being a foreigner. It's all about your deeds, they will never listen to words, only to observe your facts. Actually this wrong expectations you talk about are more likely to come from japanese women that asian ones.

I have married a Chinese women 11 years younger than I am. She is 22 and I'm 33 almost 34. She is a lot like how you describe, sometimes still is. I thought this was a major problem, she would say silly things about controlling the money and a lot of what you say is true. BUT, I solved all my problems, not by spitting in her face but dominating her in BED.Stop being a little wuss, yes use romance but also be a real MAN. You need to put your foot down and teach her how to submit like all women really want. Force her to play the traditional gender roll even if its only in bed, for career type women let them have the career, but they still want an ALPHA MALE SO BE AN ALPHA NOT A LITTLE WEAK GIRL COMPLAING BABY BATCH

What you said is more properly stated in caveman age stone time that in the actual China. Chinese women expect Chinese husband to be caring, attentive and passively hope their husband is gong to promote their current situation. However the reality in china is not so. Many Chinese girls don't really expect Chinese men anymore to do it, but from some more developed country foreigner, that might fulfill her requirements. Nothing else... It's actually plain simple. For them a foreigner might be better than any chinese is around. They are all likely to be just factual naives, unless is a chinese girl that speaks perfect english. Btw I met some of them and very young.
I may agree that when i comes into the relationship scope, ALL damn chinese girls are exaclty a "copypasta of the nextdoor one". Yes I know I generalize in extreme but it's in the air of any chinese custom to directly use this generalized talking. I guess is that they dont use THE article that lead any topic to be easily generalized. THE is to refer to some topic is particularly engaged in conversation, they don't have this particle that encapsulates particularity, it's all blurry and messy, not well defined.

but remember a little bit of that alpha crap goes a loooooongggg way

if you are **** or a German hooligan that will do it. Then you don't even notice it. But if you are high-regarded that **** personality may later grow in you...

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I can't believe my first response on EP is talking about my pending divorce. I married a Chinese woman as well. I met her in China while working there on business trips. After courting here for 2 years, she pressured me to marry her, and I did. Luckily, both of my properties were acquired before marriage as I live in CA, but as the marriage dragged on (she's beautiful, btw), and she got a job herself making about half of what I make, our sex life decreased, she never helps out around the house, is emotionally abusive, yells at me, withholds sex. She has no sex drive. Once she got her green card, she even told me that part of her attraction to me was because I was an American, and now that she got her 10 year green card, guess I'm no longer special. Stay away from Chinese women, they just want your money and green card. I spent so much money on this woman, and she never appreciated it. I do believe Chinese culture promotes narcissism, as all Chinese have a me centered attitude, and they are selfish people. Stay away from Chinese women from China American men. Trust me, you have been warned by an Asian American man.

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Feminism is pretty much built into Chinese society intrinsically. It looks like your problems accelerated when she got that job. Make her quit the joband be a house wife. That way she won't have any excuse why the house isn't clean, food isn't cooked, and she wont have sex with you. Always put your foot down by enforcing your stance with your actions. She'll change up.

Right and wrong. China is largely to under some intrinsically misogynist obscurantism. Women in china have strong determination and they don't rely on any mind projection. You are kind of right if you suggest that Chinese women will likely rather command and control over giving any ground for new topic to talk about of what's underlying between the both of you. That's what Chinese girls don't like to hesitate. After marriage, the "road" is ALREADY there, laid down to roll out toward expected success, and there's no time left to think over amending such marriage infrastructures. Chinese women don't like to talk seriously about any marriage concern. Otherwise this is done by 3rd-party friends that will happily assist in the quest of the splitting up venture.
What's right is that, many times the men are subdue to "my darling grandma's" wish of having a male as grandson. It's funny to see that Chinese bias for mail has been driven by old women, and not by young men. Btw, time ago, Indonesia was matriarch biased. Seems like the bible changed many things throughout mankind history. We are just law-conservatives (of the past), and that the mighty established power is not really open minded, thought.

Chinese girls are strong "fact-bias" and they are predators. They don't care or love, or even like, they just attack to the more accessible ignorant foreigner is walking by that display some "seriously dare to talk to you" look. If the guy is white, tall and not shabby looking they will right away take you are well-off, working in china with some diplomas under your bell. Besides, If you speak some Chinese you are more than a candidate. But, oddly, if you speak perfect Chinese and talk non-marriage nonsense stuff like they can easily retract. They are very shy and they don't dare to ask you private questions unless you are Chinese, but they allow to make up her mind for themselves presuming you are all good with not much flaws.
To any Chinese girl what they really care about are their parents, the ones who have been looking after her, and about their beloved husband ... it's just a matter of time and fate. Chinese society is very superstitious because they don't trust in the adversities of time, but in the supernatural "god" that control their happiness. They don't have religion but they hide it...

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you and your wife need marriage counseling or counseling or therapy and to come to terms on what you expect from her. You also need to stand for yourself and not listen to her. Let her now that her opinions mean nothing to you esp. if you know she is wrong. Do things your way and basically **** her ways. Don't listen to her and tell her that what she is saying or thinking is wrong and that your way will work. Even if she doesn't want to hear it just ignore her.<br />
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If she is wrong just tell her exactly why she is wrong without leaving anything out without any regrets or sympathy. She will learn to listen and think twice about challenging you and your ideas. She seems to challenge you knows you won't do anything about it and let her have her way.. A argument never hurts anyone. You need to prove to her that she is wrong so tell her how she is wrong since your say our educated and she isn't. A mouthy person will usually quite a dumb one. Words hurt more than sticks and stones. Words will get the message to her.<br />
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You seem not be putting your foot down and you are not saying no to her or telling her that she is wrong. Argue back and if she doesn't want to listen just walk away and do what you want to do. Basically you sound like your scared of your wife and you do what your wife wants you to do. Your letting her control you. Like i said get counseling. and tell her exactly what you feel.

I really and strongly discourage marriage counseling. It will be a waste of time and space. Chinese girls are neither under any rational professional understanding. They are just childish minded beings, or better said pet trainers. They don't need a husband, they need an obedient pet or, in human terms, a shut the **** up-slave. There's nothing to argue or even negotiate in the last instance. Get-the-****-out method is more healthy and cheap.

I am in almost same situation and agree with most of what you said but dont forget she will also DRIVE your son

What she will is to fAck over by driving his life using his son as scapegoat.

Oh boy sounds to me that your the one with the problem .
Did you want a doormat because its sounds to me that your a typical westernised american who thinks our way is the right way cant understand anyone who does not like the american dream .
Anyone who can talk about their wife in public like that has a problem .
Pity we cant hear her side.
My wife is chinese and she has put up with my moods tantrums and she is the one bringing the money home because i lost my business in the recession.
15 years and she still puts up with me ,
Take a step back because if it wasn't for her maybe your son wouldn't be so wonderful .

My wife is "ok" too. I don't work and I stay in all day. But she is definitely faking out, and what she really wants it's a fish in its fish-tank. If you don't work you are the one trapped. Otherwise, If you like your wife then really I congratulate, because any Chinese girl will jump out a window rather than give up on an existent "ok" relationship. They strongly grip it with preservative stubbornation like an stakeholder. This is why she puts up with you, you are being the good Chinese as they say... ni shi hao han

I married a Chinese girl from china and our marriage is great . My wife is nothing like what your describing. One thing though ,even my wife will say that women from places like Shanghai are much more materialistic ( doesn't mean they all are but a higher proportion no doubt) and many from Hunan are often associated with fraud and scams etc ( again I'm quite certain many from these regions are fine people but many are not).

Not everyone is alike. If you like your wifey then you have been lucky. Otherwise you are doomed... That's the radicalism that falls in Chinese relationships.

Yes 'so many people here are judging this man as a racist and cannot think in,or outside of the box.This was his marriage all he did was tell it like it was.My wife is Chinese as well and is cut from the same cloth as his.I have met many Chinese people since as well as white boys married to ladies from China' There is a common culture thread they share and he is right.Now let me say there are many exceptions to this and I know several girls who have a heart of gold and happen to be Chinese.It's the same as anywhere in the world -Good-Bad and in middle.I am now getting ready to divorce,but I would marry again a Woman from China'it's all a roll of the dice no matter where you are on this earth.

Gotta control these women man. Not like a tyrant but in a loving way, which lets her know there's consequences for her actions and that you're not going to tolerate her doing certain things. Especially disrespecting you. She'll get in line or she'll leave.

Not sure if you really get to place into the knowledge-box what's a factual married Chinese girl. You better study some epistemology to make sure your feet is walking steady on earth.

You sound like a racist *ss who didn't end up with the naive submissive wife you were most likely hoping for. I am an American woman dating a Chinese man and he and his family are the most loving, caring and wonderful people who have come into my life.

He's not a racist. That's such a feminist / racist thing to say yourself in order to make a man feel bad. You're a feminist and a racist yourself so stop projecting your man hatred and your racism towards Asian women onto this man. Instead go sit down , shut up and love your husband by giving him your attention. What you're saying is pure feminist, racist American crap.

Just takes few seconds for anyone to see what's underlying his post lines. He had enough for such eventual condition. That means he has not been using such a ***** mindset. A relationship is not so easy, you must really use your brains, specially with chinese ladies. No mature people will hardly start any relationship off like you think

I married a Chinese woman from around Shanghai. Some of the topics here resonate for me. She is a bully, tries to intimidate me to get her way by using ultimatums, anger, or even crying. She has had a plan all along, and I'm just along for the ride. Feels like I'm in a prison a lot of time. I think it's learned behaviour that she observed how her parents interact. Her Mom belittles her Dad a lot. Her Dad is pretty meek in the household, cooks all the meals and doesn't handle the money, doesn't make any major decisions.She also has Narcissistic traits. I think it might be because she was an only child (1 child policy), and spent large amounts of time by herself while growing up. That probably stunted her emotional development.She is prone to fits of rage if she doesn't get her way, and throws a tantrum like a little kid would (including stomping her foot in public).It's getting old for me, and I'm going to pull the plug. Life is too short for this bulls***.

Dude when I lived in China a female Chinese coworker stated basically that the girls are overly loved by their fathers since they can't have boys because of the one child rule as a result they're extremely spoiled princesses with an extreme case of feeling unworthy since they're not a male (regardless of the extreme love their shown). So what you're going through is normal As a result even Chinese guys are marrying filipinas, thais, viets, etc. because they can't handle the same attitude you're enduring. I'll just say you gotta get that princess under control. Let her know who the boss is and don't back done. Once she realizes it's your way or the high way she'll respect you and you because she'll know the rules.

I'm not sure that's the real score for any Chinese family raising up baby girls. I know any kid in China is overly spoiled (by parents and grandparents) and besides parents are not much demanding to theirs daughters. But any girl in china is eventually induced into some kind of inferiority complex feeling of much concern, that turns them to be very showy and catch signing, dressing utterly sexy. It's like they are under some race pressure like fast matching contest on the street.

all you said resonates for me too. A Chinese girl acts like a child tantrum to MAKE her way. designing schemes all along

You are full of ****!! How many Chinese women have you been married to or met? How come you jump to this stupid conclusion that every Chinese woman is as stupid as yours? That complaining all about your stupid wife tells us more clearly how ignorant and stupid you actually are! YOU DESERVE YOUR WIFE MORE THAN YOU DESERVE ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS PLANET!!!! I bet your wife should have married a better ******* than you! Loser!!!

I am chinese woman,I do international business . I marriaged a white America Jewrish . He was Major of city , I proud him, he proud of me. We take care of each other , we love each other .we have wonderfull life .

if you can not find young beautifull lady in America, why do you think you can find in China .you can not do good in your located country , your language your culture get the young and beautifull one, how do you think you can get from China .i fee sorry for her , so young sleep with so awefull old man .

Stop thinking like a woman for a second and be realistic. Most women in America are feminists and have a growing lesbian problem so why wouldn't he want to go to China to find a hot Chinese lady to marry. It's not like the majority of American women are a fountain of femininity anymore. Chinese women are heterosexual, feminine, girlish, loving, kind, soft hearted, etc. - all traits that are lost on American women. If the majority of men were indoctrinated to beat their wives and force them to have sex with them, totally disrespect them and had this enshrined in law and enforced by law enforcement you ladies would be looking for another group of men to marry too. You're feminist lezbot American thinking is trash just like most American women.

*** Most women in America are feminists and have a growing lesbian problem**

really?? since when ??

**** You're feminist lezbot American thinking is trash just like most American women.***


woooo you hate American women !! no wonder American women are hated, with men like you who hate us !! very sad!!

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Yeah I was really pissed when I wrote that. It's a little x-treme.

I'm sorry to say that by the time you posted this you could only be regarded as a delusional and epic such ignorant. Girls and guys in china (at very young life stage) they are ALL pushed by their parents and society to be heterosexual.Chinese girls learn by cultural facts that they must be lovely, because they need to persuade men which such attitude. Men are over spoiled and actually very picky. Along that presently, there are so many homosexual trends in china as there are in the states nowadays.
To me you seem to hold a mind framework that runs under some wanna-be ignorant-despise-reality oppressor agent. Very common in the states to attain or even recreate that wrong image before trying to scratch the ground.
If you really love chinese/asian girls then hurry up to get them. They are all yours to enjoy multi-nogami, three some or whatever can be named. By the end of the same year I bet you would attempt to committ a hanging down (suicide) yourself in some hidden public toilet (in China of course).

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I am shamed of you , old man want young woman, you are too skindeep , you even can not communicated with her ,go to marriage with her . she like this was not one day . you are too stupid to handle your life .you was looser in American

And you're a loser now. Who are you to be ashamed of him. Are you his mother? - NO YOUR NOT. So SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN you dumb feminist woman.

That's kind of right. But it's too easy to get into this situation in China. Many Chinese girls they think they deduce when actually they only abduct the same tricky equation. That old foreign man = experience + is well-off. That's the only thing that run in their sponge-brain of these "ultra-but-no-so-naive" Chinese women. China is corrupt and a preferable go-backwards society, absorbed by their brain-washed established one only political party. Many Chinese even don't like new things but they embark in the attempt to improve their family situation, what make them to cast full contradiction. Most of the times you find a Chinese girl that wants to get marry very young. If so, is because they are poor or hold a big feel of uncertainty in China, plus they are pushed by their parents to do it ASAP. They very attained to believe that foreign developed countries can offer many more things than only well-off situations like; developed countries government is not corrupt and hence its citizens can get some allowance that in china we get but it's not enough to realize some dignity in life.

both of you are hunter , you hunter young and beautifull woman, she hunter money .

Lol, that about sums it up. It's pretty gross

right, it's a simple as that...

Hey sorry to hear you got the short end of the stick ,I think its just the luck of the draw ,though it sounds like I hit the jackpot . I am married to a chinese girl met 2008 engaged 2009 married 2011 baby due this Sept . Culturally not much of a differrence as far as I can see . She's not the submissive type or the quiet type but we match maybe thats the secret . If anything happens to me she would be back off home . She had an ok life in China and Mum and Dad there . Nice people . Also if she wanted a wealthy guy that is not me and she knew it before we married and already had her equivalent to your green card . The point I am making is good and bad girls in every country

that's awesome man

That's it... You have been lucky. nothing else.

There's a 'Meet Chinese singles now' ad off to the right of this page.. LMFAO

That ad is redundantly BS... Most of the same.

I know that each and every case may be different. I have researched quite a bit and there are trends of narcissistic traits coming from that region and I believe this is part of the problem.
She has extreme mood swings regularly that were never seen when dating. Also other similar traits along those lines. I am not a doctor but I am doding tons of reading on that now.
And I am a miserable wreck really and truly.

and for those who think I am a basher and or an idiot or whatever well.
Thats your boat you wanna row go ahead that is the least of my problems right now.
I have always sided with helping my fellow man if I could.
It is hard to fix something by yourself.
I can only fix me.
I have to remember that.
Just remember the culture gap is a casm
A wide gap.
Don't underestimate it and or how much your side of that gap and loss of it will be acceptable to you.
I wish all of you the best both the angry ones and the happy ones.
And if you find happiness where ever you find it I tip my hat to you with no judgement what so ever.

I wrote this to vent my situation as it is it is.
and to hopefully have my fellow american at least take one last look at things before they jump in that pool to make sure that the water was ok and it may very well be.

However, I am not sure that if I had looked at the water a thousand times that I would have seen this. It is not clear that I would have.

And maybe these are universal and not just Chinese.

I do not want to put down any one people as I know as some have said it is not and it is not.

But there is some trend in there that is real and those who deny it are denying it as an addict denies.

The general culture there has set these women up I believe to see things as they do through no fault of their own. And it has accumulatively had an effect on them

In the end when your getting beat into the ground you kinda don't care why or how, just that your gonna die if you don,t do something.Wel it is hard to see things any other way

I wish all of you good luck and may god bless you all. That is what I wish.
I will not be back here. Take care.

i am an american man, i had to talk to almost 400 different chinese girls before i found the one for me, yes it was work. one girl who would do any thing for you would ask me if i could buy her K.F.C. i told her sure i can do that, i thought, dam she really wants fried chicken. later i find out she meant she wants a man to buy her a k.f.c. store to run as her own. and another girl first thing she asked me for was a i phone. she said it was so we could better comunicate. bull ****. she was on video skype all day and night. every 30 seconds you can hear the sound of a new message pop up on her screen. first you should take a year to learn basic mandarin. this will help 1,000 times over. and so then i found a girl who asked me for nothing. i talked to her for 6 months on skype video call. and yes i could hear on my computer the ping sound of another guy sending her a message, but she would ignore them and soon a few months later no more ping sounds. so then for 2 months of talking and no more ping sounds i told her i will get the airplane ticket to china to see her. she emailed me the china invite letter that you copy to paper and send in with your passport to get china visa. and away i went. i went to yang chun city. for many of the people there, they have never seen a white man and none of them speak english. the stop over in hong kong was 12 hours both ways. while in china i met young school kids who could speak very simple english words. for my one month stay in china i only needed 3,000 u.s. dollars, converted to r.m.b. at that time i got 17,000 r.m.b. after my trip i still had 4,000 left over so i opened a bank account with her name on it. as i was sure her boss would not hire her back from a one month leave. but she has good position of buying suplies for large store to stock the shelves with clothing. just this last new years she bought 3 tons of honey for the store for resale. so i know my wife is a trusted member. she is given the power to choose what style clothing and how many to buy. her boss was mad at her for getting married. and she did every thing she could by phone to disrupt the big family dinner by calling. she knew she was loosing control of a valued employee. and i am gaining a great trusted wife. oh if you realy look hard my round trip ticket from chicago was only 1,100. u.s. and i stayed with her at her home the whole time so i didnt pay for any rent. to be together for one month was a big help. it feels like you tune into the other persons thoughts and needs. we went shopping for food in the street market every other day. she was treated like a hollywood star for having a american with her. but they knew i wasnt chinese so some of them would try to give me back fake money. as soon as you call them out on the fact they will very fast take back the fake money and give you back real money so no others will see them doing this. and you must divide money into smaller ammounts so when you pay you dont pull out all of it.

Dude I was laughing about the girl wanting kfc. I had a Chinese gf who got really pissed at me for not buying her Calving Klein panties in the mall, ( I think it was KK mall in Shenzhen). Stood my ground and when she found out I wasn't backing down she opened her purse and showed me two pairs of CL panties she had just bought before and wanted to see if I would buy her more. Another Chinese gf wanted me to buy her a super expensive condo that I couldn't afford even if I had lived in the USA. It's just women, regardless of where they go they have a ton of insecurities and believe material things will cover those things up.

I think her personality has nothing to do with the whole Chinese population. You've married ONE Chinese woman, not the whole Chinese female race so stop with the generalizing and talking like you're an expert. You're just miserable in your marriage. But instead of feeling sympathy for you, you're coming out looking like a racist guy who has been emasculated.

On the face of it, inahellandahighawater does appear to make sweeping generalizations, come-off as a racist and be very very miserable. IMHO it's based on values and beliefs inherent in China that are rooted in Confucianism. strict adherence to hierarchical authority, family first and foremost and the "it's us against them mentality" - them being anyone who disagrees with their narrow-minded constructs. They are not open to learning about anything that does not agree with what they already believe or know.

I have been married to a Chinese woman who is educated, intelligent and makes lots of money. She is also one of the most ignorant people I've ever had the misfortune of knowing. She uses our kids as tools to emotionally blackmail me; She will verbally abuse our kids to get at me; her mother is her first wife and I always loose in every conflict with her family; they are always right and rarely change their behavior for the better based on objective information. The are old dogs worried about monetary security and little else. They are not keen to learn new tricks and I stopped trying a long time ago.

They've ruined my life and I hate all of them. I was simply a host to their parasitic blood sucking. I am drained dry now, so I have little left to offer them. I would have walked away in less than a heartbeat had the kids not come along. Now, I am trapped with a cold (I think she's screwing other men from various points of data I became aware of) heartless witch who hates me. She is a bully, but I have learned that the usual tactic (for backing a bully down) of fighting back vigorous works nicely.

At this point we agree to keep the peace until our kids are in college. I am slowing building a life away from her, so it won't be a big surprise when we are not together later. 16 years of catering to a bunch of lame retards form the peasantry of Hunan China.

Sorry to hear you're not happy, but many Chinese immigrants and Chinese Americans I know are very smart, hold respectable jobs, are capable of highly intellectual discussions, etc. And each has his/her unique personality even if they share a common cultural heritage. So I think you just married the wrong person. She could have been from any cultural background but if she was the wrong person for you, it still wouldn't work. It's a pity that her entire culture got blamed for your misery, though. I hope you'll figure out a way to resolve this so that you won't have to live with her and still will be a part of your son's life.

wrote well !

Rose wanted to point out you suck! My uncles wife keeps all the chineese girls away from me when they come to visit. She says they are all garbage girls. If I want to meet nice chineese girls she will find me a few to who just don't want an american or britt to get out of china. After speaking to my step cousin she says most chineese girls will marry anyone to get out. So there the problem we go there to find a good looking partner, whom we think loves us. We end up brinnging hom basically a prostituute!

I had a Chinese roommate and oddly enough she acted the same way. However, I have to tell you that not all Chinese people are like that. I have met some really amazing Chinese girls who were nothing like my roommate or your wife so I think its unfair for you to stereotype all of them like that and tell everyone to avoid em like the plague...

Yeah I think you are having to deal with some cultural differences there buddy. Looks like you've screwed up big time and you've got a hole to dig yourself out of. Best to cut your losses I say.

You sir are a moron. You have no idea of her culture, the way you describe everything proves it. I know the Chinese culture very well and it is you whom is ignorant in this matter. It is a shame she had to marry someone as narrow minded and selfish as you. You're a typical American, self absorbed and your way is the only correct way. I pity her for having had to deal with you. The rude comments by some of your supporters shows your true self, morons and low class people attract each other. Look at the comments of some people who are with you. You may not like it but you know it is the truth. What people do not understand, people fear, what people fear, people destroy.

Can you provide some fact about it? Are you actually married to a chinese lady from China?

I am indeed married to a Chinese lady from Baotou for the past 6 years. However; asking for absolute proof is stupid. Why do you ask for something that short of showing up on your door step with marriage cert and ID in hand is not provable? I stand by my statement that this is entirely your fault. You need serious marriage counseling. She is not a plaything or a dog to do as you wish. You should put yourself in her shoes, but you can not even do that because to do so would mean to know her AND her culture and it's painfully obvious to someone who does know the culture, that you do not. You're like a monkey trying to fly the space shuttle. You have it, but you have no idea how to use it. EDUCATE yourself thoroughly in the culture your partner is from BEFORE getting together. A 24 year old Chinese girl in general has the life experiences and mental social maturity of a 12 year old when compared to western girls, did you know this before getting with her? I bet not. They study like crazy from morning to nigh most of there lives, most have no idea how to even cook to do laundry by that age. I do not say these things to be mean or disrespectful, I am trying to show you the FACTS and I hope you will learn from this and not hurt another Asian lady in the future. Marriage counseling should have been your very first step even BEFORE problems start. Even a car needs maintenance and oil changes, marriages also need work and maintenance if it is to survive.

I genuinely fell very bad for your woman that she had to deal with someone like you.

Man you are very funny... If you want to come out mature as a wisdom person just consider reread again what you really talking about, because you are fatally disregarding many other things revolving around Chinese girls predisposition to engagement events between these (chinese girls) and foreigners.
Do you know what is 闪婚? It's very common in china and very well-know. I did marry to my wife because she got pregnant and I decided to have the baby despite anything unwelcome, but I did not expect her to emotionally blackmailing me at any chance. What do you think I need to talk about with a girl can't understand English? Yes, my wife can't understand English and she ONLY and above all ONLY considers blackmailing as her only resource to buy her time...
She is a teacher in a middle school, her father is a doctor. She is a divorced 剩女 sometimes demanding. Like call your mother, we need a house and such beliefs...
Anyway... I hope can give a good advise worth reading

Wait... I think you replied to the wrong person. I'm not the original poster.

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Hey Hey Friend I'm here to help you out! Dude this is a easy fix! I tell you, 1st. Walk up to her and sweep her off her feet!, carry her to the bed room, Pound her out until she can't take no more, flip her around and pound her out doggy style, then turn her around again, this is where you fix her attitude at, Pay attention. Look her dead in her eyes, go in for a nice kiss, Hawk up a nice loogie!, AND SPIT IN HER FACE!! ******* love when men spit in their face! I promise you if she don't act right after this then, message me your address and I'll come show you how its done, you can do all the *******, I'll do the spitting part.

if anyone spit in my face, they're getting a beat down. what kind of ******* are you dealing with?

Jerrica, I deal with ******* that treat people like ****, who walk around like their **** don't stink. I'm like the movie Hitch instead of people paying me to set them up on a date, they pay me to give them *** Whole advise, its like finging their balls for men and giving them a Back Bone for women, I the method I use is spitting. If I met you, I would know right from the start If I spit in Jerrica face she might kill me, but I still would try it.

no idea if this is meant to be a joke, but laughed hard at Anthonydontlovethesehoes's comment.... I thought barging in and gettin a bit rough ok ok and then blam, spit to the face omg... one way or another no doubt that'd be a game changer

I think went throughout all your guidelines and still I wish to divorce.

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you have my sympathy

i don't feel sorry for him. that's what he gets for marrying someone based on myths and stereotypes.

no one deserves to be mentally and or physically abused , would you feel the same if this was a woman who married a foreigner ?

of course no one deserves to be abused in any way but i don't think it's a good idea to marry someone based on the stereotypes you have of their particular culture. i would hope that you chose to marry someone based on more than that. hell, i could have told him that not all asian women are subserviant and docile. i once worked with a fillipino nurse that was anything but.

You guys need to be more aware of cultural differences and be respectful of it. Asians are as different as Caucasians and everybody else. If you want to have a complete harmony, you must marry somebody like yourself.

We can respect when the other one does.

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she just happens to be chinese I've seen this behavior in other cultures as well which is another reason I've never been married .

I. ENJOY GUYS WALKING. STEPPING ON ME WITH BOOTS ON ITS HARD TO FIND A GUY TO DO IT. IF UR A GUY AND WANA DO IT. LEAVE MESSAGE.

U need to change ur settings so we can chat i have size11 boots so add me now...

Sounds like you went about this the wrong way. ' submissive woman ' is what you were looking for. Am not going to lecture you about that. All I can say is life is short. Make a decision and move along. No use crying over spilled milk. Bon chance Mon ami! ( good luck my friend! )

It seems like the only reason you wanted to marry a Chinese woman is because you heard that they were submissive. You didn't want a wife. You wanted a slave. And now you see that it isn't all that you thought it would be and now you're upset. Sorry bud. You should have looked more into the culture (Talked to actual CHINESE-Chinese people and studying the culture) instead of listening to typical western men's ideals and fantasies. It's not her fault.

well said!

Thank you. :)

I totally agree.

You are 100% correct, my wife is Chinese and she can be a pain but there is a purpose behind it. Chinese women do not have the CHIP on their shoulder American women do. But they have their own set of culture issues&gt; You marry out side your culture you better do your homework. Well said!

well said!

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