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[–]stinky_cheese_dude 135ポイント136ポイント  (46子コメント)

Actually, this is based on my experience of Arch Linux

[–]brainrobot 35ポイント36ポイント  (6子コメント)

Some of us like that though.

[–]stinky_cheese_dude 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh I wasn't complaining. I learned a hell of a lot about Linux OS's after a week's holiday spent installing Arch. Good times.

My wife would disagree though

[–]PeridexisErrant 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I recently spent seven hours sacrificing chickens throughout the Debian networking stack... ultimately because I'd forgotten to capitalise one letter in the network name.

Great learning experience though.

[–]dzh 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Most people find assembling IKEA furniture equal to genocide

[–]ilikesaucy 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

or more entertaining than watching football!

[–]presidentjim 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure how legos get such love on reddit (and the internet in general) yet ikea furniture is so difficult. It's really not. It's legos for adults. If you go into it with that attitude you'll have a lot of fun. Every piece of furniture I built with my ex was a great bonding experience. (We amicably broke up for totally other reasons.)

[–]odraencoded 30ポイント31ポイント  (12子コメント)

My experience went more like this:

"Windows is cool but it's not edgy enough... I should go Linux!"

"Ubuntu is been great so far but I don't like recent updates like that amazon crap and Files (old Nautilus) now has this minor annoyance in it I don't like. Also people keep saying Ubuntu sucks."

"Hey I like this Mint thing the desktop is very neat and WTF WHY CANT I SWITCH MY SEARCH ENGINE TO GOOGLE? What happened to Firefox? WTF??? Nope.jpg fuck this shit."

"So this is Arch, eh? This is as edgy as it gets. LET'S DO THIS!!! ........................... *5 hours later* I... I made it connect to the internet. I can download packages now...? *3 hours later* Ohmigods I got X window running, I can do this, I can do this! *15 minutes later* ok, back to Windows."

I've reinstalled Ubuntu but haven't booted it up ever since. :|

[–]velrak 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Theres your problem: youre not smug enough.

[–]galudwig 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Aww man, you did all the hard work installing Arch and dealing with xorg for the first time and then abandoned it? Just a little bit longer and you would have seen the light! :)

But next time you feel the need to get your linux on again, you might want to give either Xubuntu (Ubuntu with the XFCE desktop environment rather than Unity, which is what most people complain about) or Antergos (Arch-based distribution with an installer and preinstalled packages) a try.

[–]Nikotiiniko 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah xfce is the best imo. Very neat and simple.

Now if only I could get the fucking amd drivers to work, I would bury my Windows 7. It just does not work. I've tried everything I can find but no luck. I even thought my gpu was dead but it works fine in Win7.

[–]galudwig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huh, shit sucks bro. the open source amd drivers work perfectly fine for me (on arch) and I ran the proprietary ones for many months on Ubuntu without a hitch.

[–]rickisen 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, arch linux is the best linux. I've run it for a long time, and I love it. But it's not suitable for a recent windows convert. I don't care how much of a poweruser of windows you are. Arch is not for you.

But once you've played around with the easier distros for awhile. Then it's a good Idea to upgrade to arch.

The worst part about arch are all those braggy people who claim that it's super easy and that their grandmother could use it. They have put a lot of people on the same path you went down.

[–]thosehippos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. (Also on arch). For those who want an easily working desktop from install, start with Ubuntu or mint or something. For those who want to customize everything, or just want rolling release, arch is really nice

[–]image_linker_bot 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope.jpg

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[–]MCFRESH01 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can totally change your search engine to goole in mint. I don't know about any issues with firefox.. I just installed chrome.

[–]odraencoded 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I remember correctly, only search engines that sponsored Mint could be chosen in their "default" Firefox. Or maybe it was that when you chose Google it went to their version of Google that gave them ad money? I don't remember the details, but they did something shady to Firefox to gain page views from searches. Just like the Ubuntu/Amazon sponsorship deal, I didn't like it much.

[–]Matt_notascientist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

WTF WHY CANT I SWITCH MY SEARCH ENGINE TO GOOGLE? What happened to Firefox? WTF??? Nope.jpg fuck this shit

I'm on Mint right know and I have google as my search engine and firefox works and looks the same as on any other of my OS.

[–]image_linker_bot -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope.jpg

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[–]avataRJ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, these days things are easy. Back in 2000 or so, having a Matrix graphics card on an old Pentium box, it took some effort to get X-windows run under Debian. Unless you're having really exotic hardware, most distributions get you spoiled. Where's the accomplishment when installation is just clicking next-next-next? At least in rolling release stuff some update can accidentally make your computer unable to boot, thank God/Stallman/whatever you believe in.

/s

[–]hungry4pie 61ポイント62ポイント  (14子コメント)

No no, this has been my experience with arch

edit: i forgot that's nsfw

[–]skellious 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

NSFW

[–]hungry4pie 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

derp, i forgot people browse this sub as an alternative to blowing their brains out at scrum meetings and what not.

[–]110011001100 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I have a 1.5 hour daily "stand up" on Lync

Reddit is my saviour

[–]zoldknight 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I do not think your company understands even the most basic concept of a stand up meeting outside of the "meeting" part. My sympathies.

[–]110011001100 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah.. its a bit twisted, while they call it a stand up, its not what a stand up is supposed to be, its something else

Basically there is the dev lead and me, alongwith 10 people from <IT services company> in the call. Each of them call out what work they did the previous day, dev lead assigns tasks and then we discuss all the technical or business logic issues they faced or that need to be discussed. I handle the technical part, dev lead handles the business logic part.. Usually the technical issues are easy to resolve but I need to stay in the call since I am expected to replace the tech lead in 2 months when she goes for a looong maternity leave

[–]skellious 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha. No worries. I was at home but wanted to make sure others didn't view this at work.

[–]CaptainBlagbird 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's Ubuntu

[–]hungry4pie 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd probably put Raspbian above Ubuntu. At least ubuntu has a semi decent network config gui. If my only option is to edit hardware config files, then it's definitely a reclining dildo chair.

[–]TypoHero 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

... I'll be that guy...

Sauce?

[–]Mr_Strangelove_MSc 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Burn After Reading

[–]hungry4pie 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Burn After Reading

[–]blue_2501 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Funny, that would totally not work at all as designed. You can't be moving the chair around like that.

[–]Wodashit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Indeed as commented by other it is Burn after reading.

Here is the scene

[–]Actually_Saradomin -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its so obvious people have no life when they dont specify its nsfw. You cant relate to not opening pornographic images around people its not appropriate for. Sad.

[–]shvelo 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I had something like that, is that for a toy robot?

[–]myusernameisokay 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this comic sums it up pretty well.

[–]RedditHatesAsians 78ポイント79ポイント  (53子コメント)

So Windows 7 is old, yet comfortable and practical whereas Windows 10 is new but uncomfortable and impractical?

[–]slayerofevil3 76ポイント77ポイント  (7子コメント)

And Gentoo is build the damn chair yourself

[–]gnawer 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think I found LFS.

[–]Harakou 40ポイント41ポイント  (3子コメント)

LFS is a forest and a chainsaw.

[–]5HT-2a 30ポイント31ポイント  (0子コメント)

LFS is seeds and a watering can.

[–]zhegames 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about DSL?

[–]gnawer 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what I thought first. But then, LFS is really just a manual. The forest is all the source repositories, and the chainsaw is your tool chain.

[–]Sinity 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anyone, please find image/analogy suitable for "creating kernel and all software yourself".

[–]Hullu2000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Energy: You transform it into hydrogen, deutrium or even tritium. Then you start a fusion raction to make hevier elements... The rest is self explanitory.

[–]down_vote_magnet 20ポイント21ポイント  (42子コメント)

Everyone I know has said Windows 10 is good but I didn't get a chance to install it yet.

What's wrong with it? Someone told me it's like a nicer looking cross between Win 7 & 8.

[–]tdogg8 28ポイント29ポイント  (17子コメント)

Nothing. I fucking love it. Cortana's the shit.

[–]Zagorath 5ポイント6ポイント  (16子コメント)

What sort of things can Cortana do on a desktop? Is it worth buying a mic for?

[–]tdogg8 14ポイント15ポイント  (8子コメント)

I think so but I already had a mic. You can tell her to set reminders and alarms, open/close programs, define words, do searches (although annoyingly only through bing), play/pause/skip music (if you're willing to use the built in music player). Hell you can even ask her to tell you jokes. She's really fun to play around with. The only thing I wish it had that it doesn't is a chatbot functionality. Although she does respond to things like "good morning" and what not and she has a funny response to "will you marry me".

[–]Zagorath 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

The only thing I wish it had that it doesn't is a chatbot functionality

I often think this about Google Now on my phone…

I just wish it had a little bit of personality to respond to funny or strange questions/queries, in the way Apple's Siri does.

Nice to know that Cortana strikes a middle ground between the two, at least.

[–]Kopachris 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wonder if either of them will eventually team up with Cleverbot.

[–]reddit_makes_me_ayy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

What?? Cortana doesn't interact like Siri?

Damn I thought it did, I thought I'd have my own Jarvis when i downloaded windows10

[–]Zagorath 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno, I haven't used it. The other guy's comments seemed to imply it does interact like Siri, but just not quite as much.

[–]Thecrazything 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's possible to search through google, but it's a bit of a work-around. If you have firefox or chrome there is a greasemonkey script that redirects bing to google. Though that means you can never use bing, ever.

Edit: Apparently from Firefox 40 and onwards Firefox will include a setting to fix this, without any plugins!

[–]Blecki 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't see the problem here.

[–]Thecrazything 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just thought I'd mention it, some people are in to some weird stuff!

[–]u1tralord 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll have to find the article you you, but you can actually change the Cortana search to do Google instead of bing! I did it asap, and I love it

[–]110011001100 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

It tells you you cant use it without fucking up your regional settings cause you arent in one of the privileged 12 countries

[–]Zagorath 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Oh god. I'm so fucking sick of all these completely artificial (and in some cases less artificial, but where the company clearly just doesn't give a shit about supporting more countries) regional restrictions. Google is one of the absolute worst at this and I really wish people would put more pressure on the industry as a whole to stop it.

But unfortunately, the vast majority of press is US based, and they don't care at all for what's not available to other people.

/rant

For anyone else who's wondering, according to my Googling:

At the launch of Windows 10, Cortana will be available in the USA, UK, France, Spain, Germany, Italy, and China.  ...

Microsoft has announced that, “over the coming months” after Windows 10’s release, Cortana will be made available in Japan, Australia, Canada (English only), and India (English only). Later in the year, Cortana will be made available in Brazil, Mexico, and Canada (French).

[–]Sinity 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's not artificial. Each new language takes much work to train it...

[–]gubbsy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but not always. So Cortana is available in US and Germany, but it doesn't work in Austria, neither in English or German.

[–]Zagorath 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And the fact that someone in Australia, Canada, or New Zealand can't already use it without messing up the rest of their system?

English and French languages are clearly already supported. It should at the very least be possible for someone to turn on Cortana in their chosen language without changing the rest of the platform's settings.

Similarly, on Android, you can't (or at least couldn't, a little while ago) use Google Now's "Ok Google" feature unless it is officially supported by the language you have the system (or is it keyboard layout, I'm not sure which) in. For a while, you couldn't have the system in English (Australia) and also use "OK Google", since that was only supported in English (UK) and English (US). Well what if I want my system to be using English (Australia), and just use "OK Google" with English (UK)? Should be easy, but they didn't allow that.

But even then, as I said, it's not just artificial restrictions. It's the fact that there are many examples of features that these companies just don't care to make available internationally. You have no idea how frustrating it is to constantly hear in tech media, or reading comments on Reddit, about all these cool features or programmes that you can use, only to find out it's "only available in the US". Off the top of my head: Google Voice, Bing Rewards, and Amazon's Mechanical Turk (actually, Amazon in general: where I am, they literally only started selling anything last year, and even so it's only a very limited selection of books; no non-book-related things at all). These are all (to one extent or another — allowing Mechanical Turk or Bing Rewards would wake a lot less effort than Amazon selling stuff, for example) cases where there certainly are reasons that it would require some effort on their part to implement in other countries. The issue in these cases is that the companies just seem not to give a shit.

[–]Hullu2000 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I live in Finland and would use Cortana in English. So why the restriction? I always have all my user interfaces (except Nokias phones) in English UK.

[–]TheNet_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Last I checked Canada and Australia spoke English...

[–]Chirimorin 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think the problem is that Microsoft is systematically dumbing down every version of windows even further.

You know those blue screens of death that used to tell you why windows crashed? Since win 8 it shows a sad smiley telling you that something went wrong (not what).

So the whole OS becomes more like an Apple OS: sleek, streamlined, little to no user customizability. Works perfectly for people who don't know how computers work.

[–]Farlo1[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since win 8 it shows a sad smiley telling you that something went wrong (not what)

I generally agree with what you're saying, but this isn't true from my experience. Underneath the "oops, you should try rebooting" text is usually some kind of error code or key word that they say to search for. The traditional blue screen didn't really offer much more information in the first place, it just says to remove new hardware and try Safe Mode.

[–]seiggy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why bother trying to read a BSOD, when the full crash dump is available?

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2164903/windows/how-to-solve-windows-8-crashes-in-less-than-a-minute.html

And I've not seen a single customization removed from windows. There a few minor things that have been moved to gpedit, but those things are typically minor and we're reserved for sysadmins to begin with. So what exactly is missing that you've seen?

[–]Kopachris 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

My only complaints so far are:

  • DisplayFusion's taskbar doesn't quite match Windows' taskbar. I've reverted to just using Windows' taskbar on both monitors, but then I don't get the notification area on the second monitor, which kind of defeats the purpose for me.
  • I don't like the new start menu. As mentioned by others, it's impossible to reorganize and I personally find it ugly. Which leads me to...
  • Windows removed and disabled Classic Shell during installation even though I selected to keep all apps and personal files. Trying to run the Classic Shell installer comes up with a fake compatibility error that's easily mitigated by renaming the installer.
  • GRUB. Why the fuck does Windows have to mess up my bootloader every time I upgrade or repair an installation? Can't it see that I already have a bootloader I'm perfectly happy with? During the upgrade, I ended up using the grub recovery prompt to set the correct prefix and insmod normal before continuing the boot.

Otherwise, it was an extremely smooth upgrade (smoother than any Ubuntu or Mint major release upgrade I've experienced).

[–]galudwig 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

smoother than any Ubuntu or Mint major release upgrade I've experienced

Yep, I've used nothing but Linux for almost two years but I have to say, while regular updates are much more sensible on Ubuntu than on Windows, the last three major dist-upgrades all broke my setup to varying degrees. Ended up switching to a rolling release distro last time it happened and haven't looked back though.

[–]synth3tk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

GRUB. Why the fuck does Windows have to mess up my bootloader every time I upgrade or repair an installation?

This pissed me off greatly. I spent time customizing my GRUB and even adding a startup sound, and Windows just comes along and goes "fuck you very much!".

They really need to play nicely with others.

[–]liquiddandruff 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Unfortunate that display fusion and classic shell has problems, I can't use multiple monitors without it working like how display fusion does it.

[–]Kopachris 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As far as I've tested, the only part of display fusion that doesn't work quite as well as I'd like is the secondary monitor's taskbar, and even that's just a styling issue.

And classic shell works fine, you just have to rename the installer and reinstall it after the upgrade.

[–]Farlo1[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

I've had no problems with it, although I did a clean install to avoid a lot of the driver stuff I'd expect from an upgrade. 99% of the time it's exactly like Windows 7 except faster and (IMO) better looking. I turned Cortana off, but the basic search is still way better than 7 or 8. The only complaints I have so far are pretty minor:

  1. Start menu is oddly layed out and you can't customize it how you'd expect. My biggest issues with it are that you can't pin things in the left section (If I want my most used programs to show up, I'll mark them to stay there! I don't want Windows shuffling my most used icons around, then they're not easy to find! /rant) and you can't make custom tiles.

  2. They broke the Favorites thing in Explorer so now you can't rename the links, meaning you can't differentiate folders like C:/Steam and D:/Steam

  3. The Action Center (like the pull down menu on a smart phone) has taken over for some quick launch settings and stuff as well as taskbar notifications. This would be great if notifications would stick around longer or until dismissed like a phone and if we could customize what shows up for the settings.

Overall I think it's pretty good; better performance than 7 and better UX than 8. I am definitely not a fan of the dynamic "most used" stuff, nothing is ever in the same place twice, but I expect most of these things will be fixed by the community or 10.1.

[–]CreideikiVAX 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Don't forget, Windows 10 is always phoning home about things ("Telemetry" they say)! Yes, even if you "disable". You need the Enterprise version to properly turn off the phone home thing.

[–]dzh 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

What the actual fuck?

All this dynamic crap shows windows is not power user OS anymore (was it ever?).

I mean obviously MS is following Google path to become data company. My problem is where will Apple go?

[–]CreideikiVAX 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

This probably isn't the greatest way of explaining it (since it does go into a bit of a hyperbole and of course, Godwin's Law); but a friend of mine compiled this "collage" of all of the issues with Windows 10. Here you go.

The problem with Windows 10 and Microsoft is that they basically decided to implement a phone OS (with phone features, like Cortana) on a desktop. That's why W10 has so much crap in it; it's basically treating you and your hardware like you're a phone.

As to Apple, well they have maintained the phone/computer split. How long they'll keep that up? Who knows. Personally, I'm thinking the future actually will lie with Linux. At least for me. Especially now that you see bigger companies like Valve going down the Linux path. (I also like the BSD variants, FreeBSD in particular for actual everyday OS stuff, and OpenBSD as my catch all "it runs on fucking anything" server OS.)

[–]appropriate-username 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Setting a value of 0 in other devices is equivalent to setting a value of 1

....lol.

[–]lelarentaka 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

When we have problem connecting to our microcontrollers, the usual workaround suggested is to turn off windows firewall. This "we will turn it back on if you left it off for too long" will be extremely annoying.

[–]comady25 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can pin things in the right section though. Wait for OblyTile to update for 10. Check out SteamTile too

[–]Farlo1[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know, but then the entire left side is essentially wasted since I don't care about the stuff that's put there automatically.

[–]LeSpatula 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, in this case I think I still keep 8.1 + Classicshell for a while.

[–]hoohoo4 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had it on a Surface Pro 3 for a few weeks. It definitely improved tablet usage with logical app switching and full screen desktop applications, and regular desktop usage was restored to pre-Windows 8 style, albeit with a few minor improvements. In my experience it was totally stable, but it's new so YMMV.

[–]coladict 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I haven't installed it, but I think this is what's very, very wrong with it https://youtu.be/octjhIXkcf0

[–]rickisen 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Built in comercials, and it defaults to very anti-privacy settings.

Also, you can't disable automatic updates...

[–]SavvySillybug 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I would love to tell you about my experience.

...but it bluescreened my laptop while I upgraded and it automatically reverted itself to 8.1 so I decided to let other people be pioneers for once.

[–]tdogg8 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had no problems installing it on my desktop the other day or installing the preview on my netbook months ago.

[–]SavvySillybug 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, my laptop seems to have a faulty processor and is already bluescreening all over the place. I'm just glad it reverted automatically instead of bricking the thing.

The laptop is fine now, though, I diagnosed the problem and made it draw only 60% power. Power control for the win. (I'm still saving up for a proper desktop, though)

But I don't think I can make it draw less power through the OS while it's installing a new OS, and the BIOS didn't seem to have anything to underclock the CPU.

[–]avataRJ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Stability could be better, and yes, it'll send your firstborn to Microsoft unless you change the default options and/or do some extra configuration to block that from happening.

[–]sahlahmin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yez.

[–]RagingNerdaholic 67ポイント68ポイント  (8子コメント)

They're totally right, but 4Chan is like the meeting place for the world's shittiest graphics editors.

[–]zhegames 59ポイント60ポイント  (2子コメント)

4Chan is the meeting place for some of the best graphics editors pretending to be shitty such as to not stand out against the huge sea of truely shittry graphics editors.

[–]odraencoded 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

/ic/ must be the exact opposite then. Every post is shit and everyone is literally the most knowledgeable person in the topic.

[–]ilikesaucy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am mechanical enginer on graphic design have 6 years phd from Oxford! so, i know what i am talking about. fuck off!

[–]shackra 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

/r/graphicdesignhumor

[–]memeship 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

/r/graphicdesignhumor

I'm sad this isn't real. Is there one like it?

[–]shackra 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think so!

But reddit shouldn't be that short of graphic design redditor...

[–]kurashu89 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Does that make this Linux From Scratch then

[–]DickLangly 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Get on my level.

http://baptiststoday.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/033015-Acorn-300x225.jpg

[–]kurashu89 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure that's actually an image of the current release candidate for Hurd.

[–]IntoxicatedHippo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

LFS is more like a book that tells you how to find the seed and grow the tree.

[–]Tomarse 85ポイント86ポイント  (28子コメント)

Found OS X .

[–]musicistheanswer4 38ポイント39ポイント  (27子コメント)

I think this one suits up OS X better

[–]SavvySillybug 52ポイント53ポイント  (22子コメント)

Feels really good to use it, but you don't want your friends to see you using it?

[–]Tomarse 12ポイント13ポイント  (21子コメント)

Comfortable and easy to use with no sharp edges to hurt yourself on, but is so overpriced and locked down that it literally f@#ks you in the ass.

[–]mANIAC920 20ポイント21ポイント  (17子コメント)

Tbh i never felt locked down in OSX

[–]Zagorath 38ポイント39ポイント  (9子コメント)

That's because it's not.

You hear this criticism all the time from the anti-Apple crowd, but honestly it's utter bullshit.

I know for one thing, I can do way more stuff way more easily using the Bash terminal in OS X than I can in whatever the fuck Windows' command prompt is supposed to be.

[–]mANIAC920 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly

[–]kgtx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a bit part of it is that most people only interact with the iToys which are locked down as fuck, and for some dumb reason they think that that experience translates to OSX

[–]ClickHereForBacardi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Neither does anyone else, which is why they tolerate it being locked down.

[–]Tomarse -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

The OS is lock down in that it will only interact with Apple hardware, which is itself locked down.

[–]kgtx 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

hackintosh?

[–]Tomarse 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The key part being "hack".

[–]Zagorath 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is not true. Like, it's so far from true that it's cleary you're just talking completely out of your arse and haven't got any personal experience: you're just parroting what the usual anti-Apple crowd have fed you.

I use my Logitech mouse with my Mac (which is connected to the Internet through my Huawei modem/router) all the time, as well as my Android phone. I print things out from my Mac using an HP printer, and listen to music through either my Bose speakers or my a-Jays earphones. To be frank, there're hardly any hardware peripherals that would work on Windows that wouldn't work with OS X.

[–]Tomarse -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Right, it would be pretty rubbish and absurd if that wasn't the case. But I'm of course talking core hardware. Windows can run on pretty much any custom spec because it utilises drivers. OS X can only run on Apple spec and apple technology. I can't load OS X on my Lenovo laptop, and it just work like windows or a Linux distro would. And you can't go get a hard drive from pc-world and wack it in your apple computer.

[–]Ravenhaft 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right, Mac hardware is locked down, but a new MacBook Pro also has 2GB/sec SSD speeds. It's a trade off and when I was younger and had more free time I would have scoffed at not being able to customize hardware, but as I've gotten older and busier I want my laptop to just work and not have to hassle with it. My desktop is my hot rod that I can upgrade and tweak in Windows. Apple wants to abstract away the hardware so you barely know it's there. It's the reason people love Apple and the reason they hate them. But man, if you're a developer and want to SSH into a server that's acting weird and edit some config files using vim, a Mac will just do it, you know what to expect. Plus you've got all the UNIX based OS programs and utilities at your fingertips.

[–]TheNet_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lol wtf are you talking about "locked down". Also OS X is free.

[–]Tomarse -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Windows can run on pretty much any custom spec or prebuilt machine because it utilises drivers. OS X can only run on Apple spec and apple technology. I can't load OS X on my Lenovo laptop, and it just work like windows or a Linux distro would. And an apple user can't go get a hard drive from pc-world and wack it in their MacBook.

[–]TheNet_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not really what "locked down" refers to today. Locked down means the end user has very little to no control over the OS's functionality beyond what the provider chooses to allow; they can't modify system files, etc. iOS would be called "locked down" (though you can of course jailbreak it and gain control). OS X certainly isn't.

Also google hackintosh.

[–]Zinggi57 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

NSFW btw

[–]blue_2501 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Two dildo chair jokes in a row. Must be a record.

[–]sahlahmin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

NSFW

[–]HappyBirthmus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Linux/Unix is without question 1000 times better than windows.

[–]joanniso 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Currently I'm waiting for intel to release the 6700K.

Then I'll install linux and run windows 10 using KVM and bind my videocard to the VM.

So then I'll gamestream from windows to linux on the same PC and I'm done.

[–]arechsteiner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please tell me more!

I'm replacing Windows with Linux as main OS but Photoshop and gaming will need Windows still. Planning is to use VMWare for Adobe tools and dual boot for gaming.

[–]CodeShaman 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Gentoo is about as complex as clicking "Advanced" on an installation wizard. You mount, copy some shit, and chroot. Bfd.

[–]UFeindschiff 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

true it's explained very well in the Handbook. (unless something crucial changes and the handbook isn't updated yet...)

[–]tyme 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It didn't used to be that way, though. First time I installed Gentoo it took me 3 days just to get a bootable kernel built.