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[–]nae32 54ポイント55ポイント  (43子コメント)

Why would they "investigate" a clinic with nothing to do with the accusations?

[–]ping_timeout 59ポイント60ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because our governor wanted to score some popularity points.

[–]indy_ttt[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (38子コメント)

Why would right wingers keep trying to make PP look bad, when they are following the law?

[–]Sarcasticorjustrude 23ポイント24ポイント  (36子コメント)

Because they provide services contrary to the GOP ideology.

[–]Robot_eye 6ポイント7ポイント  (34子コメント)

Womens health and family planning?

[–]Sarcasticorjustrude 8ポイント9ポイント  (29子コメント)

Abortion and contraception are traditionally not approved of by the Christian Right. Both of those are provided by PP.

[–]Robot_eye [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

But why do they oppose both contraception AND abortion?

[–]Sarcasticorjustrude [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

The traditional reasoning is because anything to halt procreation is interference with God's plan, and sex is only for procreation.

[–]Prancemaster [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Do these morons know how many fertilized eggs that didn't implant get flushed out of womens' bodies every day?

[–]Sarcasticorjustrude [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That is part of the natural process, and hence, part of God's plan. Interference with God's plan is the problem.

[–]thebumm [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I heard the woman's body can shut that whole thing down...

[–]WadeK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Because they think that people shouldn't be having sex unless for the express purpose of babymaking. Basically, nobody is allowed to have fun because god. Or something like that.

[–]mgrier123 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

But PP does much more than just provide contraception and perform abortions. They also do breast cancer check ups, pap smears, and much more for women.

[–]albions-angel [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It does but thats not what people associate with it. Other examples would be Comcast, who help maintain the fibre backbone of the USA, the data centres, and the exchanges, all vital to the internet even working, but who (quite rightly) are remembered and judged for their end users stuff, the Catholic Church, which since the Vatican 2.0 has been rather pro contraception, but is remembered otherwise, and many others.

[–]ChrisFizz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The Catholic Church is Staunchly anti-abortion/contraception. It's stance has remained that any contraception and abortion is a sin and the only thing that is OK is "natural family planning" which almost never works. Even the most liberal Catholics who are devout, refuse to budge on this issue. Source: went to a very liberal Catholic School in one of the most liberal cities. Also this article. http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/love-and-sexuality/index.cfm#language

[–]Sarcasticorjustrude [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Of course they do. But, they still do things that some from the Right oppose. Doing 2 good things doesn't absolve you of one bad thing.

[–]iamacontrarian 0ポイント1ポイント  (18子コメント)

AFAIK, only Catholics and maybe a couple of other fringe Christian sects are anti-contraception (and not even close to all of them). You need to exchange your broad roller brush for maybe a watercolor brush.

[–]timeandspace11 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

But abortion is a pretty hotly contested issue among right wing groups. These attacks aren't coming out of thin air. They are a strategy. The Governor did not call for this investigation because he was bored.

[–]iamacontrarian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Abortion, sure. But the parent comment also talked about contraception.

[–]tomjoads 2ポイント3ポイント  (14子コメント)

Catholics are fringe? What Christian sects are pro bc? Catholics arent, Baptist arent, evangelicals arent , Lutheran is what ever the pastor says. So what mainstream dogma is.pro bc?

[–]albions-angel [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Anglican. But thats more or less the only one, and even that is more of a "we dont really care either way".

[–]tomjoads [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Anglican just means you bow to the queen

[–]albions-angel [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Excuse me? Its a major Christian denomination. Sure, the Queen is head of the church instead of the Pope, but it has differing dogma from Catholicism and other Protestant Sects and has done for a long time (though I admit not since its conception). I went to an Anglican school. I dont follow it but I know it pretty inside out and backwards. Please dont talk about things you dont know. You might find a few reverends who are anti BC, but the VAST majority are very pro-bc.

[–]iamacontrarian 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I didn't mean to say Catholics are fringe... just that only the most devout Catholics disagree with BC. Basically, my sentence structure was poor. Sorry.

[–]tomjoads [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Actually most Catholics are fine with bc, the Catholic church isn't. Dont speak about what you don't know.

[–]iamacontrarian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I know. I just worded my comment poorly. That's what I meant with:

and not even close to all of them

[–]SevenStarredApis [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

There is no surer way to generate an underclass than to ensure that people are burdened with children before they are ready to support one. Not only do you keep the parents on a wage slave treadmill, but you cut their offsprings chances of rising above the economic station of their birth by half.

Two serfs with one stone!

[–]Njerseykid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So you support killing children for economic reasons? And who is forcing people to have children when there is contraception, masterbation, and even abstinence to choose from?

[–]19Kilo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes.

It's better to keep the brood mares knocked up and not feeling too feisty.

[–]cynoclast [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ultra-cynical view: Allowing their livestock to control (reduce) their reproduction.

Any time you want to figure out how out why the GOP does something weird, ask yourself how it can make rich people richer and you'll usually find your answer.

[–]RPrevolution [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Blaming the "right wing" is unscientific because it's a very broad designation

[–]The_Write_Stuff 139ポイント140ポイント  (110子コメント)

What a shocker. The latest trumped up right wing outrage of the day...turns out to be another trumped up right wing outrage of the day.

Like Benghazi lite.

[–]IKnowMyOwnUsername 53ポイント54ポイント  (36子コメント)

She said the Indiana facilities don't participate in tissue donations.

This is a worthless "investigation" - the investigation into facilities that don't participate in tissue donation found no evidence that Planned Parenthood was illegally handling tissue donation at those facilities. I don't know why they could even justify investigating these particular facilities in the first place - I guess they were hoping to find evidence that PP was smuggling tissue donations via an undisclosed site to cover up "profits"?

[–]The_Write_Stuff 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

Tissue donation is necessary for medical research and producing new medicines. It's not pretty but it's a fact. Getting something useful from tissue that would otherwise end up in the incinerator is a good thing.

Using your logic I could spin a headline that says Pro Lifers Support Burning Babies. That's what it's like trying to have a discussion with the right on anything.

[–]IKnowMyOwnUsername 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Using your logic I could spin...

This "investigation" is a clear political-based sham meant to appease voters, but they had to have a "legitimate" reason for even being able to push forward with an investigation. Looking for a situation similar to money laundering or smuggling via a 'clean business front' makes sense as the face-value reason for how they could get approval. So let's be honest - the logic can be sound but the intent malicious; if you really want a good discussion then don't be the first to devolve the conversation.

[–]Taj_Ramos 10ポイント11ポイント  (33子コメント)

If you think about it in many people's eyes Planned Parenthood is essentially pulling some nazi level shit. If someone believes that a fetus has all the rights of a human being, an abortion is essentially the same as shooting a baby in the head.

You'd think they'd act out more considering how many abortions happen in America a year. I mean, they would if 1 million 3 year old children were being executed down the street. But if that happened people would do more than just protest with strongly worded signs.

[–]dalenar 7ポイント8ポイント  (30子コメント)

Ever since I heard that some 92% of American pregnancies where down syndrome is detected are aborted, it changed the way I look at the apparent zealousness of the anti-abortion movement.

Polls regarding the pro-life/pro-choice positions have been hovering close to 50-50 since the early 90s.

I am not a statistician, but those statistics seem to be ... inconsistent? ... and make me wonder about what people say vs. what they do. Am I reading too much into that? Maybe the 92% is inaccurate, as now I can't find a study with data to back it up. I dunno.

Edit: The more I think about it, I guess for the 92% stat to have teeth in this regard, we would also have to know what percentage of pro-life pregnant mothers do/don't get prenatal testing done, and compare those statistics. Again... not a statistician so please forgive any ignorance.

[–]twistedfork 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

There is an Oklahoma legislator who happens to be a doctor. He is one of the few republicans that does not try to restrict abortion access in Oklahoma. A few years ago he wrote a letter calling out the hypocrisy of what he saw in his practice. People are prolife until it is THEIR pregnant 15 year old daughter.

[–]indy_ttt[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

People are prolife until it is THEIR pregnant 15 year old daughter.

And racists are pro-lifers until their white daughter is pregnant by their black boyfriend.

[–]tarekd19 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

that's really not any different from what twistedfork already said. What's the point of bringing racists into it?

[–]NatWilo 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Trying to get a false equivalency going. 'Only racists favor abortions' or done other similar 'argument'

[–]mayjay15 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. Even if you didn't agree with his point, "only racists favor abortion" would not be a logical takeaway. I think the point was, "People will be hypocritical and give up their supposed desire to save a life if it inconveniences them or opposes another belief they hold even more strongly, such as racism against black people."

[–]NatWilo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're right. That's a better reading.

[–]tallerthanunicorngod -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

They get around this by believing blacks aren't really people. :)

:(

[–]tsukemono 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

I am staunchy pro-choice, but I chose to carry my pregnancy and place for adoption.

I imagine I would seem hypocritical, so I'm sure it goes the other way.

[–]dalenar 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't see your position and your actions as being contradictory or hypocritical at all, though. You believe women should have a choice, and when you found yourself in that position, your decision and action was totally consistent with that belief.

[–]twistedfork [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm pro-choice and could never get an abortion if the fetus was healthy. I think you would be a hypocrite if you said, "I'm anti-birth, but I had a baby."

[–]mmm_unprocessed_fish [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not hypocritical at all. I'm pro-choice. I have always had a safety net in my life. But there are plenty of girls and women out there that don't have that--be it from mental illness, intellectual disabilities, poverty, abusive situations, lack of a support system, etc. Not to mention if they are pregnant due to rape. We should be striving to make abortion safe and available, but rare (by making birth control affordable).

[–]Arianity 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

On mobile,so I can't source (sorry),but iirc,people have looked at religous /pro life groups,and their abortion rates are still quite high.

People think it's ok for them,because they know they can't afford to have a baby right now.but they suck at empathizing and realizing the same shit happens to other people.

There was an article a few years ago,about a lady protesting an abortion clinic.signs etc,the works.one day she came in to have an abortion...she was back out front protesting a week later.its rather depressing

[–]Soullesspsyd 5ポイント6ポイント  (17子コメント)

I live in the south and got pregnant at 17. I came from a super religious family. They always were super pro-life until I got pregnant. Then they offered to send me to see family in Indiana and get an abortion that way no one had to know. I carried to term and chose adoption for my daughter. Best decision I've ever made. I don't agree with the use of abortion as a form of birth control. That's just dumb But, it needs to exist for cases in which disability or rape have occurred.

Edit: words. I need to use them better.

[–]mayjay15 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't agree with the use of adoption as a form of birth control.

I think you meant abortion, and, to that point, that basically doesn't happen, or is so rare as to almost be a non-issue in the abortion debate. Abortions are expensive, even when done early in a pregnancy. Hundreds of dollars minimum, just for the pills/procedure. Not to mention the likely discomfort, if not pain, missing time at work, likely having to travel multiple times to a clinic. That's a mighty big difficulty when just popping a pill or using a condom would prevent it, and I don't think many women are mentally unfit enough to use abortion as birth control. If they are, there's probably something wrong psychologically or their situation.

[–]Soullesspsyd 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did mean abortion. Thanks for catching that.

Abortion as birth control does happen. I wasn't the only person in my circle of friends to get pregnant. I was the only one to carry to term. We all were in a religious area so birth control was frowned upon. Also, everyone knew each other. You couldn't buy condoms without your mother's uncle's best friend's coworker telling someone about it. People would "wind up pregnant" miss school for a few days and come back fine. If the student didn't run down to Atlanta and go to a planned parenthood, the parents sent them off to avoid embarrassing the family. Sexual repression and shame are powerful tools.

Religious, abstinence only education, lack of privacy, social norms, sexual repression, and a host of other things lend themselves to lack of healthy birth control methods. These same things lead themselves to the "secretive" hiding of pregnancy.

I'm not saying this is the primary use for abortion by any means. I'm just saying it happens more than you're acknowledging. You won't be able to gauge it because these people would experience such cognitive dissonance about their decision that is may never be reported.

[–]dalenar 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Wow, thank you for weighing in here. If I may ask, how on earth did that conversation unfold? Did you confront them with their hypocrisy when they made that offer? How did they respond to that?

[–]Soullesspsyd 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

I was a 17 year old who has just been left by her fiancé (young people are stupid). I was emotionally bankrupt. I was busy defending my right to carry a child to term and fighting for her legitimacy. My choices should have no bearing on the legitimacy of her life (aka, call my daughter a bastard and I'll fuck you up). Their hypocrisy wasn't my concern at the time. My concern was keep my stress levels as low as possible for the sake of my unborn child. I was taking a lot of verbal abuse from all sides (my small town published my pregnancy in the paper, my school and church made me get on stage and announce my pregnancy and apologize). I had better things to do that fight them about their silly thought processes. I was trying to eat well, maintain a healthy lifestyle, continue working, finish high school, and keep up my dual enrollment in the local community college. I didn't have time for hypocrites. I only had 9 months to prepare for a little human.

Overall, if my perfectly healthy daughter got pregnant simply because she was screwing around, I'd encourage her to carry to term and adopt out. That being said, an abortion would be an option. I personally don't agree with using abortions as birth control and I stuck to my stance. It would be her turn to choose her stance and stick to it.

[–]Darsint [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

First off, thank you very much for sharing your story. It's very insightful, and I'm sorry that you ended up going through all that. You didn't deserve it.

Second off (and I hope you'll forgive me for this because I am calling out people you might still care for), the shaming process your community did against you I feel is the true basis of why there's opposition to abortion in the first place. Not because they wanted to preserve life. If they wanted to preserve life, they'd try to make your pregnancy easier for you. Help you out.

But they didn't. They attempted to humiliate you. To vilify you. It's most probable that they wanted to hold you up as an example to the other girls. Scare them into not having sex. Control who could or should have sex.

There's an easy way to tell. Did your community have access to birth control? Was it reviled or accepted? If it was reviled, then their attitudes revolve around sex, not life.

I respect your choice to keep your daughter, and I'm very glad you will respect her choice. I wish you well, and good luck!

[–]hmbmelly [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Wow that is so fucked up. I don't suppose they made your fiance get up and apologize?

[–]Soullesspsyd [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Nope. He didn't want to be part of it, so I didn't go spreading his identity to people who didn't already know.

I'm kind of glad I didn't have to be involved with him further. I really dodged a bullet when he left.

[–]My_Hands_Are_Weird [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why don't you think abortions should be used as a result of accidental pregnancies?

[–]AsAGayJewishDemocrat -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

(aka, call my daughter a bastard and I'll fuck you up).

I don't get it... By every definition your daughter is a bastard.

[–]Soullesspsyd 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was getting that the idea of "a bastard." That has no bearing on her as a person. Her conception occurring due to the actions of two people without rings on their fingers cannot make her inherently flighty, untrustworthy, unintelligent, or possess any other trait associated with birth out of wedlock.

I was told that my child would be "cursed," stupid, a criminal, a whore, untrustworthy, a drug addict, or simply unsuccessful simply because she was "a bastard."

[–]WadeK [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My stepmother always HAAAATED me as a child because I was dad's kid from someone else. And because I was born out of wedlock, which didn't fit into her perfect upper-class plan. I fucking LOVE the term 'bastard' because it doesn't matter one iota if my parents were married or not (because it's the 21st century and who cares?) and the only people it pisses off are those like my stepmom who couldn't get past their stupid Stepford worldviews. The pearl-clutching soft gasp the people in her circles get when I use the word is absolutely worth any negative connotation that gets put on it.

Plus, Game of Thrones recently made it cool.

[–]tallerthanunicorngod 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you don't believe in abortion as a form of birth control you don't have to get an abortion.

Other people get to make their own decisions about their bodies and your opinion doesn't matter then.

And it's not like there's some pandemic of couples who figure that's the only form of birth control they'll use, it's expensive and time consuming. Accidents happen and abortion spares women huge amounts of pain and the world another unwanted child. Even if you get it adopted, there are millions of unwanted children already and now there's one less spot for them.

[–]Soullesspsyd 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

See my other comments. I said I don't agree with it. My behaviors are consistent with my beliefs. I believe that birth control should be made as available as possible to avoid abortion being used this way.

That being said, not once did I say that it shouldn't be allowed.

"Millions of unwanted children" my daughter was not unwanted by any means. I would have done anything to keep her and raise her myself. Her adoptive parents had tried to adopt 3 time prior to this. Once, the birth mother changed her mind, one miscarried and the other regained custody. They had given up.

Why is that my opinion about the use of abortion is wrong and your opinion about the use of adoption is right?

I'm not trying to force my opinion on anyone else. I said that I don't agree with it and I acted accordingly. I also said that in another comment that if this same situation occured with my daughter, I'd be perfectly alright with whatever choice she made.

[–]tsukemono 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with you and feel sorry the other birthmothers feel what they did was more righteous than going through an abortion. All avenues (parenting, abortion, adoption) have pros and cons. One situation does NOT fit all!!

[–]Soullesspsyd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agreed. I can definitely see the benefits to any of the options.

[–]Grumble_fish 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

in many people's eyes Planned Parenthood is essentially pulling some nazi level shit

I would imagine there is significant overlap between these people and those who literally cannot distinguish between universal health care and genocide.

[–]tallerthanunicorngod -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because even most pro life supporters recognize, even if they won't admit it, a fetus is no where close to the same level as a human being.

[–]bigsnakejake 10ポイント11ポイント  (51子コメント)

Can someone summarize this story?

[–]indy_ttt[S] 58ポイント59ポイント  (9子コメント)

Sure...

Cons say they don't like abortion, create a false medical company in violation of federal laws, film under false pretenses, trick an unsuspecting person into saying something that can be taken out of context, broadcast their edited version to make an important and law abiding company look bad, right wingers lose their minds, demand right wing politicians to investigate the lies, turns out they are just lies after all.

Right wingers lose their mind again.

And repeat.

[–]19Kilo 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I heard ACORN was registering the fetuses to vote! Scandalception!

[–]bolognaballs 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's so frustrating and sad that this kind of crap can't be stopped.

[–]SevenStarredApis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In America we have the best propaganda money can buy!

[–]Pickled_Leprechauns 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, until you realize they feel the same way about your point of view. :(

[–]bolognaballs [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh I'm aware.. it should go both ways though, and I'm okay with that.

[–]DaveS1551 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks for this unbiased summary.

[–]indy_ttt[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's less biased than the hoax video that the illegally created fake medical group is peddling.

[–]want_to_join 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

Anti-abortionists selectively edit video of Planned Parenthood officials in an attempt at a smear campaign. Republican lawmakers buy smear campaign, and order investigations. Investigations turn up nothing.

[–]tallerthanunicorngod 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Investigations were of Planned Parenthoods not even in the same state or related in any way, didn't matter because it provided a convenient excuse to harass them for political points.

[–]cragtar [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What exactly did they edit that made it particularly misleading? I was under the impression planned parenthood was doing nothing illegal which is why it's cleared.

[–]want_to_join [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

PP is doing nothing illegal. They took footage of a representative discussing the repayment of costs of shipping/storage for fetal tissue donation to science research facilities and made it sound like they are trying to profit off of selling 'baby parts'.

These people are hell-bent lunatics. It is the same ideology that led to bombings and shootings only a couple decades ago.

[–]inveterateasshole 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Operation Jade Fetus.

[–]PlayInTraffic22 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Planned Parenthood is plotting to take over the United States!

Something something Alex Jones

[–]kayjay25 15ポイント16ポイント  (12子コメント)

The president of planned parenthood is actually named Cockrum? That's like an ice cream man named Cone.

[–]ComedianMikeB 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

Cockrum? But what is that sexually? I don't think the comparison holds up. It's probably more like an ice cream man named "vanillaspoon" or "freezerchocolate".

[–]kayjay25 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Cockrum could be a euphemism for semen?

[–]RamsesThePigeon 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nah, that's "Baileys Irish Cream."

[–]trognus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought that tasted good. Damn, I might be gay...

[–]BatMally 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jonathan Vanillspoon Freezerchocolate here. Ice cream IS my game.

[–]itripovermyownfeet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Urgh, keep that up baby and I'm going to drown you in cock rum!

(baby batter is still better but you get the point)

[–]Pete_the_rawdog 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's like a library man named Bookman!

[–]therealdannyking 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's an "aptronym."

[–]Neckwrecker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I refuse to believe Sarah Blizzard was that woman's birth name.

[–]thelfj 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not quite as cool as the World Series of Poker Main Event Winner Chris Moneymaker who is close friends with David Gamble.

[–]n000n 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Video started automatically after landing on the page. So fucking annoying.

[–]AnonymousMaleZero 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't worry! There will be 2 or 50 investigations before the next election into this.

[–]Khethma 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not to mention 50 or so votes to bar Planned Parenthood from receiving federal funding.

[–]SevenStarredApis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm glad these cons are fighting to keep our tax dollars from being wasted.

[–]ALABAMA_LEPRECHAUN_ 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

This proves yet again that conservatives are more than happy to waste tax money when it's something they think will benefit them, but when tax money benefits someone else they freak out.

[–]HillandRiver [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Actually, it proves the liberal hive mind is still going strong.

Conservatives do not like unborn children being murdered in the womb, carefully dissembled, packaged and sold.

ShOcKinG!!!

[–]Sultan_of_Sass 4ポイント5ポイント  (15子コメント)

Is there a source detailing the edits in the videos?

[–]logonomicon 15ポイント16ポイント  (10子コメント)

Do with this information what you will, but I think the full, uncut videos are available for at least the first 2 of this recent thing.

[–]BBQsauce18 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Don't want to use your tax dollars to pay for abortion? Then be prepared to pay a family to live on welfare for the rest of their lives.

Even if a child is put into foster care, you are still paying.

If the child has any medical issues, guess who is going to pay the bill for the rest of that persons life? Tax payers.

If you want to make your argument about the cost, you've already lost.

This is so stupid it hurts.

[–]ryan924 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

Another failed attempt by Saudi America to strip women of their rights.

[–]tallerthanunicorngod 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Planned Parenthood deserves so much respect for continuing to provide health services despite all the death threats and opposition from crazy politicians / people.

This PP wasn't even fucking related to the one in the video... It'd be like investigating a McDonald's in Iowa after one in California had a rat sighting. Only worse because no law was broken at any PP.

[–]semysane 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

More like investigating a McDonald's in Iowa because one in California was caught on tape serving chicken mcnuggets.

[–]beelzeflub 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I saw that the PP website had been hacked so people couldn't access it, I was so mad... Seriously, what the fuck.

[–]westward_jabroni 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

The dust on this "incident" will settle and the media and conservative core will move on. Every conspiracy-laden story has a social and media shelf life. The far right and those looking to be "shocked" or "outraged" will move on and find something else to focus on. This incident is nothing new, just another loop in a constant cycle. It won't take long for there to be another social outrage, another topic to focus on, another irrelevant and wasteful incident for the far right to draw their undivided attention to.

[–]digital_end 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

And the great part is that it doesn't even matter that it wasn't true, the outrage has been served and in their memory it will always be another example of what's wrong with Planned Parenthood.

[–]AgentElman 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. Lie loudly and get lots of press. Then when the truth comes out it gets buried.

[–]mayjay15 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like people who still believe PP built a multi-million dollar abortion-plex based on article from The Onion?

[–]handle_5 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem is that they're trying to 'acorn' Planned Parenthood. And the Senate is bringing up a special vote on whether to cut their funding.

[–]SimpleGimble 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

The things is, no matter how many times these "guerrilla journalist" conservative activists chop up some video into pure lies, the right is ecstatic about it every time.

That's fucking scary is how little the truth means to these people.

But I guess these are the same people that watch "WW2 Aliens" and "Hitler's Occult: The Ghostwaffen SS" on the History Channel.

We laugh at say India for burning some girl for being a witch, which is good, but shit about 25% of the registered voters in this country are nearly as bad.

[–]Muscles_McGeee 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is very telling that for people who believe PPH is doing something illegal, you'd they think would be going after PPH doctors and administrators to find who allowed it to happen and prosecute them. But everyone I've heard who believes the claims of the videos are calling for PPH to be defunded so that abortions can end. So their issue clearly isn't lawbreaking, it's finding some way to abolish abortions, which really hurts their cause.

We could all get behind the idea of ensuring medical practices and the handling of organs is legal and proper, but when one side is going extreme, it's really not possible for anyone else to stand with them at that point.

[–]reddittrees2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which is why it's not painted across the entire foxnews page this morning when it was for the last two days.

[–]indy_ttt[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not that karma points mean anything, but it appears that there have been 813 total votes on this news item, and 212 people have downvoted it.

Now, I may be assuming too much, but are right wingers who desperately hate abortion and want PP to have done something illegal so stupid as to think that if they downvote this article, no one will realize that the video is a hoax, and PP has done nothing illegal?

[–]Senor_Tucan -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

"...a number of conservative lawmakers around the country who have called for investigations after an anti-abortion group circulated a video it made..."

Tonight, a shocking video released of Planned Parenthood selling aborted fetuses, followed by an equally authentic video of Brian Williams performing "Rapper's Delight".

[–]SkunkMonkey -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Brian Williams performing "Rapper's Delight"

Hey man, that performance was dope, yo!

[–]taylorsloan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's some tax-payer money we'll never get back.

[–]NachoLawbre -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

At least the article is on AOL, so maybe even some old conservatives will see it.

[–]TrowaX -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

righties are overblowing it. lefties are underblowing it. truth is somewhere in the middle. no one is being honest.

[–]indy_ttt[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

  1. Underblowing is not a word. Source - It has a squiggly red line underneath it on my screen.
  2. There is usually no equivalency when it comes to issues. Just because someone on one side or the other really REALLY believes something does not make it right. Case in point - right wingers (claim to) hate abortion, and anything that shows it in a bad light is what they love to present, correct or not. But while they lie to make PP look bad, it does not make it illegal.

[–]mayjay15 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What are you basing this on? The belief that everyone's opinions are valid and no one is ever purely right or purely wrong? Do you feel that way about evolution?

[–]Meayow -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do they call people who get abortions "mothers"? I suppose they could be mothers. They could be childless women. But why is the news organization's copy stating that people who have gotten an abortion are ipso facto mothers?

[–]Minxie -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

lmao, AOL comments section are something to behold.