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MISC.Shower Thought: Feminism is the primary cause of misogyny in the developed world. (self.KotakuInAction)

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[–]Kaarous 22ポイント23ポイント  (6子コメント)

I would suggest that it's not feminism itself that causes the backlash, but rather the rampant abuses of female privilege (yes, I'm turning their term against them) that feminism has resulted in. By and large in my experience, American women are spoiled, entitled, empty headed brats little better than children, and privilege and been baked into their mindsets from birth. Feminists decry "privilege" in men via projection, to divert attention away from their own abuses.

Whether the media tries to deny it or not, men are being victimized and persecuted en masse by the fruits of feminism, and we're not blind to what's going on, just in denial thanks to the guilt narrative being shoved down our throats at an early age by the media and the female dominated education system.

Eventually, people will get fed up, and the real backlash will begin.

[–]Unplussed 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

...and privilege and been baked into their mindsets from birth

Fucking this. We've had several generations specifically of women now that have been raised on the idea that they deserve everything in life, and if they don't get it, someone (read: men) are responsible. Combined with several generations of raising general narcissists under the "everyone is a winner" ideals, it's a perfect shit soup.

[–]CloudedGamer -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

The "American Women" rhetoric sounds a lot like the "toxic masculinity" rhetoric to me. That is to say, it's puerile bullshit from bitter people. I don't know many american women other than over the internet, but they seem mostly just fine to me, at least as much as the average man tends to be.

Add: I'm not saying there's not a valid point to be made about "abuse of privilege" or thereabouts, but I don't think it justifies labeling american women "by and large" as "spoiled, entitled, empty headed brats."

[–]Kaarous 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't know many american women other than over the internet

I do, on the other hand. I'm speaking from experience. I'm also honestly tempted to call you out about claiming "puerile bullshit from bitter people" when you freely admit that you have no experience on the matter.

[–]CloudedGamer -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

it's not "no experience on the matter." Being on the internet doesn't suddenly make american women not american women.

I just thought it might be helpful to point out how you sound like an american feminist in regard to your attitude towards the opposite sex. Even the last post is similar to a feminist threatening to "call me out" and crying about how i am denying their "lived experience" as if your emotional proximity somehow makes you the definitive authority.

Again, i'm not just here to white knight against you for being unfairly harsh on women in my opinion. I agree that the hypocritical way feminists like Anita play the victim and benefit from "female privileges" is the main cause of "misogyny" against her. But then i read your post and it seems like Anita represents virtually all american women to you and i don't think that's the case.

[–]indigoanasazi 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's wrong with being bitter? Don't people have a right to express dissatisfaction?

If looks like shit, smells like shit, and tastes like shit to people, then let them say what needs to be said, and fight the argument instead of attacking the person. Terrible people can make great, correct arguments.

[–]CloudedGamer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was attacking the argument. That is to say that it is no good to make sweeping generalisations. It's what the feminists do when they talk about "toxic masculinity" which can be read as just "men." I wasn't even calling him bitter directly, (that sentence was qualified with the preceding sentence of what it sounds like to me) just to say that the argument sounds like something i would expect from a bitter person.

[–]Dyalibya 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Misogyny is hatred for women, there are very few cases of that, its almost unheard of, its just a case of moving the goal posts, any man who isn't a total doormat is branded a misogynist

[–]CHIM_ERA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many of the social and institutional issues men face today are results of feminist theories and really go to show that progressivism is misguided as while they seek to benefit one group they will harm another unintentionally.

For instance, the police arresting men in all domestic disputes even if his partner was the aggressor, a feminist method proposed by feminist theorists who did a feminist study. But take a non feminist study and you find that women are violent toward their partners just as often as men are sometimes more violent in lesbian partnerships.

Interestingly the demographic with the lowest statistical rate of domestic violence? Homosexual men.

So despite the statistical data showing that in domestic violence straight couples give equally what they take in terms of domestic violence, the woman who conducted that study was chased out if her country and advised by authorities to have her mail forwarded to the explosives department of the police. Who harassed her? Feminists of course!

Feminists are the cause and continuing advocates of much sexist ideas and legal inequity in the modern western world. They simply don't care about equality and somehow they're the progressives.

[–]zagielCan apparently tell the future 0_o 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not "feminism"

Third waver, and yes. They abuse the fact that they are women which generally more trusted [or more privileged], that's why they are running the narrative [rape culture, wage gap, video games cause misogyny] unchallenged

western women in general have everything they need , unlike the women in middle-east [which needed REAL feminism]

[–]2yph0n 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

The old form of feminism actually supported 'The Prohibition' of alcohol and while first wave feminism brought women's ability to vote, there were a group of women that formed the anti-suffrage movement against the women's liberation army.

Moreover, the radical feminism have taken root in the culture in the 2nd wave of feminism where they offered diplomatic statements of radical feminism's ideologies. UCLA's WLF co-founder Devra Weber recalls, "'... the radical feminists were opposed to patriarchy, but not necessarily capitalism. In our group at least, they opposed so-called male dominated national liberation struggles'".

They managed to drive a wedge within the genders.

[–]Kaarous 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The old form of feminism actually supported 'The Prohibition' of alcohol

And is also responsible for most of the blue laws still scattered throughout the states in response to Prohibition being repealed. Feminism has ALWAYS been tyrannical, authoritarian and anti fun since it's inception. Booze was the video games of their generation.

[–]TheThng 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always find it hilariously ironic that third wave feminists actually get upset whenever anyone badmouths Islam for their treatment of women.

An actual patriarchy, and they are so quick to defend it

[–]ITSigno[M] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hi OP, could you explain why this is relevant to GG, and not just random anti-feminism?

[–]SunshinelorrypopAnnoyed Izzy. Poetically.[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not really relevant to gg. Just an observation.

[–]Kaarous 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not the OP, but I would argue that since it's something we get accused of a lot, brainstorming the concept is relevant. Moreso if the very thing accusing us of it is the potential root cause, as the OP suggests.

[–]ITSigno 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He needs to explain the relevance to GG/KiA in the OP. Part of Rule #12

[–]mnemosyne-0000#BotYourShield 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]Unplussed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most is manufactured, the rest is just a reaction to a bunch of hateful, insufferable cunts, most of which is aimed more specifically at them rather then women in general.

[–]mnemosyne-0000#BotYourShield 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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[–]VidiotGamerTrigger Warning: Misogynerd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, I'm pretty sure it's religion.