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Please help me (self.TheBluePill)

TheSupplicator9000 が 投稿

I'm at a loss. I've discovered TRP, and as a 23 year old man I can totally relate to all the experiences on there. Being the romantic type has only caused me to be heart broken countless times. I've never been a fan of the Alpha types. In high school I was jealous of them getting all the girls and me being walked all over. I was always skinny and average height. I think my facial features are relatively attractive.

I don't know about all the generalizations about women on there or not, but the advice on there was never taught to me. (Lifting, how to be confident, abundance mentality, how to flirt, passing shit tests, basically how to attract a girl sexually.

I guess the Red Pill theory about AWALT is probably not true, but is the actual actionable advice on there ok? I just want to get your guys opinions. I've lurked on here for a while and it seems the women on here aren't attracted to any of these behaviors. Which confuses me, because I've read that the actual actionable dating advice on TRP is common sense. It wasn't to me at all. I was totally in the feminist mindset and felt that as a man, I am a potential rapist so I always felt guilty about my sexual desires. Feminism brainwashed me so much I have contemplated suicide in the past because feminism made me feel bad about being a man. Sort of like how TRP would make a woman feel about being a woman.

So, can you help me out? Before I delve deeper into TRP stuff, I'd like some people here to tell me where I'm going wrong.

The women on this subreddit sound like they are into the romantic, sensitive, nice guys. As Justin Bieber would say, Where are you now that I need ya?

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[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZriding the kampl carousel 1ポイント2ポイント  (22子コメント)

go learn more about feminism for fuck's sake

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (21子コメント)

I have. I don't identify anymore because I don't believe we live in a rape culture. Men who rape are punished for it. If we lived in a rape culture, then men wouldn't be put in prison for rape. I'm also against the fact that I have a privilege of being male. I do not. I have worked for everything I have and nothing was ever handed to me on grounds of my gender. I agree with these women:

http://womenagainstfeminism.tumblr.com/

[–]hoshizuku 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you've never been raped and had a police officer look you in the eyes and ask you if you were wearing a "short skirt," then I guess I might believe we don't live in a "rape culture." Of course my rapist was never convicted either. But oh well guess he didn't do it because all bad guys always go to jail.

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry about your experience, but not all men are like that. I feel that if you follow feminism, it's going to be hard to ever get close to a man again because you're never going to fully trust him. You're going to think of every man as a potential rapist, just like TRP thinks of women as potential rapists. This is why TRP and feminism are both bad. If you were raped, that rapist has also damaged your view on men as a group.

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like a shitty police officer to me. I'm sorry that happened to you, and that fucker should have been sentenced. But you're generalizing 50% of the population by saying we live in a rape culture. If I was the police officer I'd never have asked you that and I would have beat the fuck out of that rapist.

Also, the rape of men isn't taken seriously either. So if you're gonna say we live in a rape culture, can you at least acknowledge that men get raped too?

[–]hoshizuku 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course men get raped. I never said that they didn't. Me sharing my experience does not diminish the fact that men also get raped. I don't understand why that always seems to be taken that way. "Woman says she was raped? Men get raped too." ????? Someone explain

[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZriding the kampl carousel 3ポイント4ポイント  (14子コメント)

i cannot imagine why girls don't want you

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (13子コメント)

What do you mean? I used to be a feminist. They didn't want me back then either. I came here for advice and you're being mean about it.

[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZriding the kampl carousel 4ポイント5ポイント  (12子コメント)

you don't know anything about feminism so if you used to be a feminist you were a shitty one

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/772391-when-looking-for-a-life-partner-my-advice-to-women

Isn't this feminism? This is a feminist article, and it's pretty toxic IMHO.

If this is what feminism is about, I don't want anything to do with it. I'd rather just be an equalist/humanist.

[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZriding the kampl carousel 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

go back to the peanut gallery

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're worse than TRP! No help at all, just snarky comments. I thought you guys were better than that.

[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZriding the kampl carousel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

bye felipe

[–]murloclove 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

If this is what feminism is about, I don't want anything to do with it. I'd rather just be an equalist/humanist.

Please, don't. Humanists/equalists are good people. Not TRP biased, like you are.

Btw, the way you write tells a lot about you. Let alone the brand new troll account

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not TRP biased. I came here for you guys to talk me out of it, and so far you haven't succeeded. I'm not trolling FFS!

I'm a bad person because I want dating advice???

[–]murloclove 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We can't and won't talk you out of it. I guess you are grown up, you will know what's best for you.

And we're not a dating advice sub...

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ok, explain to me where I'm going wrong? I'd like to be convinced to go back. Maybe I'll be a better one next time. Do I still have to believe women are oppressed? Because I think men and women are pretty equal. I'm trying to be a nice guy here, please help.

[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZriding the kampl carousel 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

go read a book pal

try "feminism is for everybody" by bell hooks and then come back and troll better next time

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not trolling, I just thought you guys were more rational over here than at TRP. I've read feminism is for everybody. I still find too many flaws in it. I didn't come here to debate about feminism, I came here for answers. How did this turn into a feminism topic? You guys are obsessed with feminism!

[–]murloclove 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kinda funny, a lot of us are not feminists.

And we're not a self-help sub, but you already know that.

[–]PM_ME_UR_GROSSKREUTZriding the kampl carousel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

no you haven't lol

[–]juniperbunch 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah you really don't know what feminism is. I guess educating yourself isn't a part of the self-improvement you do over at TRP? Ignorant guys aren't really impressive.

Also, not all men who rape are punished for it. More than half the sexual assault in USA isn't even reported, partly because of the resulting trauma from the rape and the fear of embarrassment or slut-shaming. Of the ones that are reported, less than a quarter of them lead to jail time. One of the reasons for this is that there are usually no independent witnesses leading to the case becoming a he said-she said and victim blaming is still very prevalent.

[–]TheSupplicator9000[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/772391-when-looking-for-a-life-partner-my-advice-to-women

Isn't this feminism? This is a feminist article, and it's pretty toxic IMHO.

If this is what feminism is about, I don't want anything to do with it. I'd rather just be an equalist/humanist.

[–]Legario 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm pretty sure you're thinking into this too much. The advice TRP sometimes gives like working out and being confident is fine, but the misogyny it's basic assumptions are rooted in are patently wrong. Not to mention the advice that sets out to just harm women, like "dread game."

You don't have to be a feminist to not be TRP. I'm no feminist and I think TRP is full of idiots. Just take their most basic common sense advice. Work out, keep your body clean, don't be an idiot, and have some self-confidence. From there it's just a matter of approaching women you find attractive and asking them out. Just talk.

[–]luridlurkerObserving the Dick Derby 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've never been a fan of the Alpha types.

You and me both.

(Lifting, how to be confident, abundance mentality

Lifting, being confident and not being too clingy (ie 'abundance mentality') will all help.

how to flirt

I mean... if you call negging flirting... that's cool. It works... just not on people who've got their shit together.

passing shit tests

Passing shit tests is such a joke. If the person you're with is shit testing you, and you guys can't use your big boy/girl words to work through the shit she's (or he's) throwing at you... you should do what any adult would do and leave. Find someone who says what they want, and wants what they say. Contrary to popular belief over at TRP, not all women are confused, lost souls who can't handle some introspection. The ones who can't, aren't the ones you want to be with.

I was totally in the feminist mindset and felt that as a man, I am a potential rapist so I always felt guilty about my sexual desires.

How is that feminist at all? That sounds toxic af. Not all men are rapists. Generalizations are hurtful... especially when you throw them around without examining why you have them. Plus sexual desire and all that goes with it can be a damn beautiful thing.

Feminism brainwashed me

Um.. you seem highly confused as to what feminism is, but that said, suffice to say you seem to be reacting strongly to environmental factors. This comes with the territory of being young... but work on isolating and avoiding the things which affect you negatively. Are you hanging out with the wrong crowd? Reading specific internet blogs too much? Maybe a friend, family member or ex or something said a bunch of crap?

Feeling bad about being you, or feeling bad about the genitals you've got is toxic shit... so identify the sources (sorry, no, blanket terms like feminism aren't helpful here) and cut those sources in your life out.

tell me where I'm going wrong.

We don't know you, and nor does TRP. Random internet strangers can only be so helpful. That said, work on your self esteem, don't take everything everyone says to heart and stop looking for love or expecting sex or a girlfriend is going to make your life better. Just focus on your interests and on meeting people.

You're not the first romantic to get hurt. You're not the only guy out there who's lonely. There isn't a magic formula to fix your life... you gotta be more nuanced than that.

[–]WestsideMoonWalkerMuneyJordan SpaceGhostPurrp 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dude, the problem is your attitude if anything.