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Many people claim these bible verses are taken out of context.Explain how each and everyone of these are taken out of context ? /u/versebot[deuteronomy 22:5] /u/versebot [1 corinthians 11:14] /u/versebot [psalms 97:10] /u/versebot [1 corinthians 6:9-11] /u/versebot [romans 1:26-27] /u/versebot[Matthew 7:15] /u/versebot[Matthew 19:4-6] /u/versbot[genesis 2:24] /u/versebot [psalm 97:10]

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[–]kvrdave 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like I've been given an assignment where the professor can't even be bothered to give you the information. And I don't think this is graded.

[–]Nicene Christianfunny-original-name 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't have to put so many versebots in there. I'm not even sure if he works with posts.

[–]Nicene Christianfunny-original-name 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

In what context are you trying to use them?

[–]HinduTurboVodka 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

In this context. It was just a text post dumping 3 or 4 verses followed by comments that were probably more stubborn and self-righteous than just about anything tripletrules ever wrote.

[–]Christian Deistapophis-pegasus 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

tripletrules

What happened to that guy?

[–]HinduTurboVodka 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think he picked up a malicious stalker (probably pissed off another thickheaded fundamentalist from some other tribe) and felt threatened. So he just up and quit the internet.

[–]Quakeremuman_92 5ポイント6ポイント  (13子コメント)

I mean, you're kind of just posting them all as individual passages without any of the surrounding verses. That's the definition of 'out of context'.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (12子コメント)

Explain them in context then

[–]AtheistOrisara 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

Wrong sub to be a dick mate...

[–]Christian Deistapophis-pegasus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shhhshhh. OP'll learn.

[–]BaptistGemmabeta 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, for the first verse, I quote from the great commentator Rashi.

5A man's attire shall not be on a woman, nor may a man wear a woman's garment because whoever does these [things] is an abomination to the Lord, your God.

A man’s attire shall not be on a woman: making her appear like a man, thereby enabling her to go among men, for this can only be for the [purpose of] adultery.

...nor may a man wear a woman’s garment: to go and abide among women. Another explanation: [In addition to not wearing a woman’s garment,] a man must also not remove his pubic hair or the hair of his armpits [for this is a practice exclusive to women].

because… is an abomination: The Torah forbids only [the wearing of] clothes that would lead to abomination [i.e., immoral and illicit behavior].

[–]Nicene Christianfunny-original-name 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

So no manscaping?

[–]BaptistGemmabeta 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe it's too Muslim:

"I [the bath-keeper] once opened a bath in al-Ma'arrah in order to earn my living. To this bath there came a Frankish knight. The Franks disapprove of girding a cover around one's waist while in the bath. So this Frank stretched out his arm and pulled off my cover from my waist and threw it away. He looked and saw that I had recently shaved off my pubes. So he shouted, "Salim!" As I drew near him he stretched his hand over my pubes and said, "Salim, good! By the truth of my religion, do the same for me."

Saying this, he lay on his back and I found that in that place the hair was like his beard. So I shaved it off. Then he passed his hand over the place and, finding it smooth, he said, "Salim, by the truth of my religion, do the same to madame", referring to his wife.

He then said to a servant of his, "Tell madame to come here." Accordingly the servant went and brought her and made her enter the bath. She also lay on her back. The knight repeated, "Do what thou hast done to me." So I shaved all that hair while her husband was sitting looking at me, At last he thanked me and handed me the pay for my service."

[–]Christian (Ichthys)Reservedtruthfinder [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

Taken out of context in what manner needs to be properly addressed before anyone can actually answer properly.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

marriage being between 1 man and 1 woman and anyone saying otherwise being wolves in sheeps clothing

[–]Christian (Ichthys)Reservedtruthfinder [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

So you have any examples of "taken out of context" concerning these verses? You didn't exactly say the matter of what context they were taken out of.

Also I don't think you understand exactly. Throwing "wolves in Sheeps clothing" out I isn't exactly fair. Considering many people have different views. Unknowingly disagreeing on an issue because of a different verse they may quote doesn't mean they are trying to misguide you but believe what they preach is the truth. That isn't a wolf in Sheeps clothing. A wolf in Sheeps clothing is someone who intends to misguide you away from whatever you believe and are fully aware they are wrong. So be careful how you use your words.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

I said that people who support sin are wolves in sheep clothing

[–]Christian (Ichthys)Reservedtruthfinder [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

marriage being between 1 man and 1 woman and anyone saying otherwise being wolves in sheeps clothing

You didn't say people who are supporting sin.

And technically in the bible it wasn't 1 man and 1 woman. If you want to get specific. Some men had more than one wife.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

polygamy is sin Jesus gave us a new law /u/versebot [Matthew 19:4-6]

[–]Christian (Ichthys)Reservedtruthfinder [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Erm. Jesus is quoting from Genesis 2

It wasn't a new law he gave us.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Either way Jesus affirmed marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman

[–]Christian (Ichthys)Reservedtruthfinder [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

So if that's your logic Jesus never said anything about being gay being a sin. So that's okay then right? In your logic.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Actually Jesus would be against lgbt activities.

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Matthew 19:4-6 | English Standard Version (ESV)

[4] He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, [5] and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? [6] So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

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[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Go on the post that is 2 hours old about catholics and lgt .It is there

[–]Roman CatholicRazarTuk 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

In addition to what others have said, they can also be taken out of social and historical context.

Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,

Great. What does "long hair" mean? What we currently consider feminine and long was normal for guys in Jesus' time.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about the other verses

[–]Leuku 2ポイント3ポイント  (21子コメント)

Everyone. I seriously recommend that everyone stops interacting with georgemontero in any meaningful way. He appears to depict only a caricature of a Christian. All sound bite, no substance. Consequently, he does not seem to meaningfully contribute to the sub.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (20子コメント)

How am I not contributiing.I give bible verses and ask for them to be explained

[–]Leuku 2ポイント3ポイント  (19子コメント)

You depict a caricature of a Christian. All sound bite, no substance. Thus, you do not meaningfully contribute.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (18子コメント)

Because I posted bible verse and asked them to be intepreted ?

[–]Leuku 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

I'm talking about your entire post history today

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (16子コメント)

What else did I do ?

[–]Christian Deistapophis-pegasus 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Just curious, have you ever posted to /r/Christianity under a different username?

[–]Nicene Christianfunny-original-name 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is like their 5th account in three days.

[–]lady_wildcat [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This one only took a few hours to get -100.

Edit: is there a such thing as an IP ban?

[–]Nicene Christianfunny-original-name [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Admins can ban IPs, mods can't. I don't think this person has been banned at all.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Does this explain how these verses are taken out of context

[–]Christian Deistapophis-pegasus 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, but its gonna explain alot of other stuff.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does that explain how how each and everyone of these are taken out of context ? /u/versebot[deuteronomy 22:5] /u/versebot [1 corinthians 11:14] /u/versebot [psalms 97:10] /u/versebot [1 corinthians 6:9-11] /u/versebot [romans 1:26-27] /u/versebot[Matthew 7:15] /u/versebot[Matthew 19:4-6] /u/versbot[genesis 2:24] /u/versebot [psalm 97:10] are taken out of context

[–]HinduTurboVodka [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

You were highly aggressive, narrow-minded, and refused to participate in (let alone facilitate) discussion. Generally speaking, this community looks down on a couple things:

  1. Naked verse as reply. That's seen as being haughty and condescending.
  2. No straight answers. Every answer I've seen you give has been either round-about (when asked how you interpret a specific word in a verse, you post a rephrased verse instead of just a straight definition), childish ("you tell me, what do you think it?" is hardly a mature response when somebody asks you for your opinion), or flat out cryptic to the point of uselessness.
  3. Curt, impatient responses. Pretty self-explanatory: if you come across as being irritated with people, they won't want to talk with you.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

1 I did not see any rule that says we cannot post bible verses as answers 2 I have no memory of this 3 I have no memory of this

[–]HinduTurboVodka [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I did not see any rule that says we cannot post bible verses as answers

You're correct, it isn't a rule. It is, however, bad etiquette.

As for #2, I'm referring to [this](np.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/3f32lj/christians_co_existing_with_non_believers/ctkuol1) thread.

#3 is subjective, but given your comment history I believe the community would agree that you lack tact and come across as being a very condescending/self-righteous/unpleasant individual. Please know that the problem with this isn't what you're saying, but rather how you're saying it. If you put in the effort to write softer, clearer, and more polite comments then you'll find this place to be a far more enjoyable place to be.

[–]Leuku 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

If I'm going to invest the time to explain you everything, then I want some reassurances that it will be with my while.

First, I want you to promise that you will listen to everything I say with sincerity and humility.

Second, I want to know the username you had prior to this new account.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

1 I agree 2 stop making assumptions

[–]Leuku 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't sense sincerity and humility from your response. You know how to use versebot. Versebot constantly changes regarding how to summon it. You are adept at summoning Versebot, using it to summon many verses at once without error. I do not think you are a new user

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (21子コメント)

.Explain how each and everyone of these are taken out of context ? /u/versebot[deuteronomy 22:5] /u/versebot [1 corinthians 11:14] /u/versebot [psalms 97:10] /u/versebot [1 corinthians 6:9-11] /u/versebot [romans 1:26-27] /u/versebot[Matthew 7:15] /u/versebot[Matthew 19:4-6] /u/versbot[genesis 2:24] /u/versebot [psalm 97:10]

[–]Nicene Christianfunny-original-name 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

How can anyone do that if you aren't saying how you are using the verses?

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

These verse are meant to say marriage is betwen 1 man and 1 woman.and other stuff but I know I will be downvoted if I mention it becuase of the trolls on this sub

[–]Roman CatholicRazarTuk [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

What do the verses from 1 Corinthians, Deuteronomy, Psalms, and Matthew 7 have to do with gay marriage? Also, you only need to summon VerseBot once per comment.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

1 corinthians says lgb is a sin and deuteronomy say t is a sin.Psalm says we must hate sin and matthew warn of wolves in sheeps clothiing

[–]Roman CatholicRazarTuk [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,

Okay, I meant the first one from 1 Cor. But in all the cases you cite as being about transsexualism, you have to keep culture in mind. Back then, men had longer hair and wore what could be considered dresses. By your logic, Jesus Himself was a sinner for not cutting His hair short or bifurcating His lower-body garments.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Jesus did not have long hair and robe was not female clothes

[–]Christianbarwhack 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

Explain what you mean, and we can judge context.

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (12子コメント)

On another post others said I took these verse out of context

[–]Christianbarwhack [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

People say things. It doesn't mean they're right. OR wrong.

How were you using each?

[–]EvangelicalGeorgeMontero36[S] [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Go on the post that is 2 hours old about catholics and lgt .It is there

[–]Roman CatholicRazarTuk [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

lgt

Bisexuals exist. I know a few.

[–]Christianbarwhack [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ah. That's what's up.

The LGBT cohort here is Victorious and we non-approvers are required to approve and validate them:/s "it is so ordered". The short is? that debate is over for the western culture and they won. Don't argue. But make sure they own every aspect of it.

Remember that casting pearls causes the caster to get trampled: don't cast anymore. The Advocates will punish you, legally if necessary. It is porcine.

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Deuteronomy 22:5 | English Standard Version (ESV)

[5] “A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God.

1 Corinthians 11:14 | English Standard Version (ESV)

[14] Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him,

Psalms 97:10 | English Standard Version (ESV)

[10] O you who love the Lord, hate evil! He preserves the lives of his saints; he delivers them from the hand of the wicked.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11 | English Standard Version (ESV)

[9] Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, [10] nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. [11] And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Romans 1:26-27 | English Standard Version (ESV)

[26] For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; [27] and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Matthew 7:15 | English Standard Version (ESV)

A Tree and Its Fruit
[15] “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

Matthew 19:4-6 | English Standard Version (ESV)

[4] He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, [5] and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? [6] So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Genesis 2:24 | English Standard Version (ESV)

[24] Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.

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