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Everything is so incredibly bullshit... (self.conspiracy)

magnora7 が 投稿

Anyone else been reading about all this bad stuff going on in the world and just feel a state of shock and disbelief? I mean, not only are things going bad, but on top of it everyone pretends it's not! Not only are things corrupt, but they're maximally corrupt. It's like water that has reached a saturation point and nothing more can be dissolved in it. I would just love some commiseration on this general point. I just literally cannot believe how broken everything is.

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[–]reputable_opinion 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

it's basic game theory. the psychopaths are aggressive dominant over the passive empaths. not only that, but they collude to stay dominant. the only commiseration is that their system is unsustainable and will destroy itself. I guess you could pull up a chair and make popcorn, or poke it with sticks for fun and to speed up the process. put a shoe in the gears.

don't gain the world and lose your soul. wisdom is better than silver or gold.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

What do I do with the wisdom of knowing how fucked everything is? I have this feeling like I just want to curl up in a ball in the dark and wait out the clock. I don't even know what is worth doing any more.

[–]lucycohen [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It's a shock when you first find out, but spend time doing nice things, only read and post about this stuff for x amount of time per day, don't let it take over, otherwise it will destroy you. At the start it did destroy me, it was because I allowed it to take over my life.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've been "finding out" for about 5 years now, and it just keeps getting worse and worse. It seems like the appropriate assumption is to just assume everything is 100% shitty and nothing will ever work in my favor. Maybe I'm just depressed. Maybe my depression is an appropriate reaction to the circumstances in which I've been placed. I just have a hard time caring about anything anymore

[–]higger44 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Stay strong you will get through this. You are not alone.

[–]reputable_opinion [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

what you have is understanding of the knowledge, but not the wisdom to deal with it. this takes time. don't give up on yourself because some assholes cheat. I'm not a religious man, but I like this psalm 37.

Do not fret because of those who are evil
or be envious of those who do wrong;
for like the grass they will soon wither,
like green plants they will soon die away

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

No offense, but that's bullshit! That's a lie to keep people passive and ignoring the wrongdoing, which allows it to fester like it has! Religion is by and large designed to pacify people in to non-action.

I'm sure "not fretting about those who are evil" worked out great for the millions of people who died under Hitler, Mao, and Pol Pot.

It's not that "some assholes cheat", it's that the entire human social system is based on cheating assholes! That's the foundation of our society, and closing my eyes to that fact isn't going to change anything.

[–]reputable_opinion [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

it doesn't say anything about being passive or ignoring it. i think you misread the intention of the poem, and/or you have some deep seated hatred for relgious texts.

the same book says something about reproofing a fool, so I'll just stop here.

[–]ncam15 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

On this note, how do any of you go out every day and just live your lives? I am a recent college grad and have been generally aware of these things for awhile (looked into 9/11 a few years ago), but now that I have graduated and dug deeper I just don't understand how I am supposed to live any semblance of a normal life. It would be one thing if I was happily unaware but even the thought of paying taxes which go to funding people that commit atrocities against humanity all around the world sickens me. Right now I am bouncing between temporary jobs and living at home, but it is so hard to get productive and "move myself forward in life" when that basically just means becoming another cog in the machine that is responsible for so much evil. I can't fathom becoming a part of this system for the rest of my life, my ideal would just to be a stay at home dad who is self employed with some side projects (my girlfriend is cool with that idea). Does anyone have advice on just how to live a normal day to day life knowing what is going on around you?

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Exactly! I spent the last year looking for a job, finally got one that is neuroscience research for a piddly $35k a year (after the original offer said $60k, which was a flat-out lie), and then a month and a half later was fired once I got the labs experiments running! I had to learn 3 programming languages to make it happen... Then they just cut me off after I made everything work and wrote documentation about it. I feel so used! I don't know how people are supposed to live a normal life and buy a house and stuff anymore, I just literally don't get it. I guess that's probably the reason most people choose to remain ignorant, and I'm starting to wonder if they're actually smarter than me by doing so, which is something I've never really seriously considered. But I don't know how being ignorant would help me make enough money to live. None of this makes any sense to me.

[–]apropo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I guess that's probably the reason most people choose to remain ignorant, and I'm starting to wonder if they're actually smarter than me by doing so, which is something I've never really seriously considered.

Ignorance is bliss?

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Knowledge is power but ignorance is bliss. Maybe I'm realizing I'd prefer bliss over power.

Ignorance is bliss, until it bites you in the ass, though.

[–]Putin_loves_cats [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I had to learn 3 programming languages to make it happen

Everything happens for a reason. There is plenty of freelance work in the programming industry. I'd find some land in the countryside, become a freelancer (be your own boss), start growing your own food, hunt and/or fish, pay as little as you can into the system (shop local). If you drink alcohol, you can either brew beer or make your own wine. If you smoke tobacco, I'd suggest rolling your own (You'll save a shit tonne of money). A carton for me is 10$, where as if you bought a carton of marlboros or something, it'll be 50$+ depending on where you are. I've done most of this, still working on a few things though. Cheers!

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Thanks for the advice, I don't think there are many MATLAB contractor programming gigs as that's my true specialty... Maybe I should look around though, I suppose it's possible. I don't believe this "everything happens for a reason" thing though. As far as I can tell, this Earth is just a lot of uncontrolled chaos with little justice

[–]Putin_loves_cats [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

You're welcome. Check out http://elance.com and search for MATLAB. Also, everything does happen for a reason and there are no coincidences. A part of waking up to these types of things is really about spirituality (not talking about religion) and the universe.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Sounds like a great way to develop schizophrenia, to start believing there's some grand purpose to everything that happens and that I'm the center of the universe and it's all revolving around my experience of reality.

Thanks for the link, it looks like there's more people doing matlab contract work than I expected.

[–]scaredshtlessintx [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

ignorance is bliss.....i sometimes wish i took the other pill....sorry about your job.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks, it was pretty stressful too because the way my boss got rid of me was by overhearing a conversation I had with a co-worker about the EU's financial problems. My boss reported me to HR for "creating a hostile work environment with my political statements" and I got put on administrative leave and escorted out of the building by security. They're doing an investigation, but it's likely they'll side with my boss (despite her having already done this to another employee she randomly decided she didn't like anymore) since she is the one applying for grants and getting grant money, which the research hospital gets a 60% cut of. My co-worker and his wife moved from Brazil for this job, he just put in his 2-weeks notice after I was fired because the work environment is so toxic, and they're going to have to move back to Brazil as a result. Also, his wife just got pregnant. The whole thing is fucking crazy, I feel like I'm on some reality show where the curtains will go up at any moment and everyone will go "Surprise!" like it's some reality show or something. I just can't believe everything is actually this screwed up. Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. Thanks for being supportive.

[–]swim32 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

telling you man. i worked as a financial advisor after college..talk about being a cog with a "good job" and a normal life...after i woke up, i couldn't go on doing that pointless bullshit for a paycheck...most retirement account plans are just ways for the elite to siphon off even more money from the populace

[–]untumulted 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're not broken.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thank you. Society sure makes it feel like I am.

[–]showmeurboobsplznthx 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Years of corrupt policies have all caught up to a point where we are fighting to not look bad instead of admitting we made mistakes and choosing new policies.

[–]Putin_loves_cats 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I see someone took the red pill. Yes OP, it sucks and no one has any idea on how to really fix things. The rabbit hole goes much, much deeper, sigh...

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

What's the point of digging down the rabbit hole any further when 99% of people won't entertain any potential solutions? Morbid curiousity? I always wanted to know how the world works, but after years of learning I'm not sure I want to learn anymore because I don't know if it's actually helping anything or just crushing me.

[–]Putin_loves_cats [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Depends on what your outlook on this life is and how you view your life. Spirituality is heavily involved here. Some seek further (I have), some don't, all depends on the person. But, what I can say is, after all the rabbit hole falling, I'm more spiritually grounded these days and more in tune with the universe/nature/self. I consider "waking up" like a relationship break up:

  1. Denial and Isolation
  2. Anger
  3. Bargaining
  4. Depression
  5. Acceptance

There are things we could do, it's just that the forces against us are strong and many and have always been here. People are starting to wake up to it though, there is a great awakening happening before our eyes. Interesting times are ahead.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Interesting times are ahead.

I sure hope so, because it seems like 99% of humanity is asleep at the wheel.

[–]OswaldWasAFag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's gotten to the point that I literally cannot pay attention anymore. I've been getting severe anxiety attacks lately. Finding more out of control bullshit to worry about is literally killing me.

[–]make_mind_free2go [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

yeah, it's pretty bad & people are tired of it & so is the earth. we hope that everything that's "toxic" will get gone.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I hope there is a nice time period of earth I will get to experience after that happens. But that's probably just a daydream... Damn I'm so pessimistic, but how can I not be after all the bullshit I've witnessed on this world? There's got to be a better way, a better time/place than this...

[–]make_mind_free2go [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hope there is a nice time period of earth I will get to experience after that happens.

so do i.

[–]HS_00 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It hasn't always been like this. I expect even the elite amazed with what they've gotten away with.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I hope so, but another person literally just commented "It has always been like this."

I don't know what to believe anymore, it seems like the masses are all too happy to be lead by the nose in to debt slavery and wage slavery. I haven't seen any actual resistance that stands any sort of chance, people en masse simply don't care enough or are too busy to care. We got to this point, and no one stopped it, so why wouldn't things continue to get worse?

[–]HS_00 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hope so, but another person literally just commented "It has always been like this."

Which is why I posted what I did. There are numerous historical trends you can look at like media ownership consolidation, political campaign contributions, incarceration rates, etc., that clearly show the decline. Compare the country's reaction to Watergate and Vietnam to the bullshit that we've seen on the last decade.

[–]kebutankie [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If there were no waves, then how would you experience the thrill of and love for the wave?

I know it's bad, especially this past year. But have faith in your power, you will help to change and mend it. That's how I feel anyway.

If all the sane people give up, then how will they ever find out that they are living in an insane world?

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If your whole life is riding the down wave and you never get to experience the up wave, then what's the point?

[–]lucycohen [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You'll get used to it with time, just keep away from the vaccines and use your knowledge as power

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Any time I wield any amount of power through my knowledge, the system crushes me because I'm "rebelling". I just want to detach

[–]KnightBeforeTomorrow [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The air, the water and the food all contain some amount of neurotoxin so I'm not surprised.

[–]Darklord_America -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't be so depressed! There's always reason to celebrate. Shabbat Nachamu is almost upon us, and then it's just a few more weeks until Rosh Hashana! Be well!

[–]marsomenos [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It has always been like this.

[–]magnora7[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If that's the case, then I give up. But I don't think it has always been like this, it comes and goes in waves every few decades, from how it seems. There are other countries where things are not nearly as bad. But maybe this is all my ignorance speaking. Maybe I should just accept how terrible things are and stop trying to strain myself so much to change the world in to a better place. You know, just be beaten down and accept my slavery, like a good slave.