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Humans - S01E01 Episode Discussion (self.HumansTV)

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A couple buy a synthetic human, or `synth' to help around the house, but the new arrival threatens to expose their secrets. A retired engineer's paternal relationship with his own synth is threatened by a malfunction, an android and his owner go on the run, and a detective grows suspicious of his wife's close bond with her synth.

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[–]MidnightButcher 38ポイント39ポイント  (15子コメント)

I can say I am thoroughly impressed with the first episode, and will definitely be tuning in for the rest of the series. I find the relationship between Anita and Laura really interesting, as Laura is struggling to feel like she isn't being replaced.

I'm confused about the first scene showing the runaways though, was it a flashback to before Joe got Anita?

Edit: Watching it again on +1, I missed the "Five weeks earlier" part

[–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 17ポイント18ポイント  (6子コメント)

The little girl wanted to give Anita a goodnight kiss but not her own mother. Poor Laura.

[–]MidnightButcher 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

The bedtime story too. I think the actress playing Laura really shows the uneasiness and distrust well.

[–]MintyTyrant 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

Katherine Parkinson! You'll probably know her better as Jen Barber from The IT Crowd. She's a brilliant actress, she's even won a BAFTA.

[–]MidnightButcher 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh really! I knew who she was, and that she was in the IT crowd, but that was all I knew, I didn't realise she had a BAFTA

[–]Gone_GirlNiska 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

She was in the brilliant Honourable Woman too.

[–]antdude 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is so weird to see her not being funny. :P

[–]ezekielziggy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She was also in 'The Honourable Woman' which is worth checking out.

[–]InUrFridge 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

I assumed that the dodgy salesman had effectively got a bunch of synths that had "fallen off the back of a lorry" - Anita being one of them. Clearly there's some sort of blackmarket, what with that 'chop-shop' guy Colin Morgan/Leo questioned.

[–]MidnightButcher 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I think at some point Colin Morgan's character found Anita, and that she has consciousness and fell in love. Over time I think he found others with feelings and emotions etc. and is trying his best to "save" them from being just synths.

[–]back_ache 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Perhaps she was on a rental agreement and there is a finders-fee for returning missing ones.

When they get then get them back they give them a service and a factory reset

If this is the case, the reset wasn't completely successfully and we are seeing the old memoires coming back.

[–]malz_ 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

was it a flashback to before Joe got Anita?

Yes it said 5 weeks (or maybe it was 5 days) earlier.

[–]MidnightButcher 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

5 weeks. I am watching it over again on +1, and I missed that bit.

[–]therealjohnnybravo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought it said 5 weeks later. I was very confused.

[–]ConfirmedCynic 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It seems like it's going to be dealing with issues that might really confront humanity in a couple of decades. Like the elder daughter's angst over career choice and post-secondary education: why bother if machines are going to replace people in so many ways?

[–]CRISPR 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The purchase of Anita was done way more convincingly in the original.

[–]SmashingTeaCups 34ポイント35ポイント  (10子コメント)

Was that Neil Maskell?

ARBY HAS RETURNED

[–]DenverBowie 21ポイント22ポイント  (8子コメント)

Where is Jessica Hyde?

[–]SmashingTeaCups 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

loudly breathes through mouth

[–]drummerdoc84 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

'don't put the gas away yet'

[–]SmashingTeaCups 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

When I first watched Utopia I didn't hear what he said and completely missed the impact of that scene... Was quite surprised when I rewatched it.

[–]drummerdoc84 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It kind of set the tone from there on in, you knew no one was safe after that.

[–]my_lovely_manNeil Maskell's permanent scowl 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is she a coostomer? Because if she is I-I can find her...

[–]thootlyI'm afraid I don't understand the question. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm thinkin' so hard. I really am. I just... don't know that name.

[–]JimHolden 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ahahahaha! Ahahahaha! Ahahahahaha!Ahahahaha!Aha!Aha!Ahahahaha!Ahahahaha

[–]thootlyI'm afraid I don't understand the question. 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought the glasses made him ever so slightly less frightening, but when he was waddling into his house and then watching his wife being carried away by that synth, I was anticipating a brutal murder.

[–]fligabob 54ポイント55ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm not sure why, but Anita laughing at breakfast was really fucking creepy

[–]mappsy91 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

uncanny valley

[–]SawRubMax 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm gonna have nightmares.

[–]antdude 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hahahahahaha. Hahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahah. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahaha...

[–]antdude -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

/me is still laughing.

[–]ConfirmedCynic 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was like she was mocking them.

[–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 22ポイント23ポイント  (18子コメント)

  • I'm really liking the soundtrack so far.

  • I liked how they portrayed how having synths changes society; people are unable to get jobs because they can all be done by synths and people feeling like they are being sidelined by their loved ones for Synths (the mother feeling replaced by Anita and Neil Maskell's character seemed to feel annoyed at how close the synth was to his wife/gf).

  • Is Odi (the old guy's malfunctioning synth) one of the robots that can think and feel like humans? If not then can't they just transfer his memory to a new synth?

Overall a decent first episode I think.

[–]Gone_GirlNiska 18ポイント19ポイント  (8子コメント)

But William Hurt has become completely emotionally attached to his synthetic. Not only treating him as a son, but needing him to share memories together. Really sad, looking forward to seeing how that plays out.

[–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

I loved them playing hide and seek together. I think you're right that it would not feel the same having his memory transferred into a different synth. Especially as it would have to be at least a little different in order to perform new functions.

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    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Maybe they could but are not willing to? If it's an old model it could be that it's expensive to find the parts and not cost-effective to fix this one versus just giving him a new one when it's likely Odi would malfunction again in the future.

    [–]robmillernow 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Or maybe SOMEbody knows how to fix him...?

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You're suggesting George could fix him?

    [–]CRISPR 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That line was one of the best in the original. The actor who played the grandpa was fantastic.

    [–]kaliena 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The old man subplot tore me up. Like watching a person have to put down their retired service dog after years of loyal service.

    [–]grodecki 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Soundtrack is nothing on Utopia thus far (same composer) but is still fabulous.

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I think this needed a less "crazy" soundtrack than what worked for Utopia.

    [–]grodecki 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Oh I agree, it definitely couldn't be the same, it's just the Utopia soundtrack set such a high bar, I'm not really sure I can be wowed by any TV show these days!

    [–]my_lovely_manNeil Maskell's permanent scowl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Couldn't agree more. I'm glad to say that I had never heard the type of music he was making in the first season before, and it blew my mind so much it became the first piece of music that I actually bought on iTunes.

    [–]ianjm 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Definitely some familiar vibes!

    [–]my_lovely_manNeil Maskell's permanent scowl 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hah, I just checked his Soundcloud, he calls himself a "multiple award winning Synthetic Human"

    [–]ItsBobDoleYo 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Totally agree on the first 2 points.

    Potential future plot spoiler alert: In the original show there's a subtext of the synths being a persecuted outsider that featured more heavily in its second season. There were waves of anti-immigration in Europe when the original show was on and it feels like that played into the original show. Factory workers being laid off and the workers blaming the synths (immigrants). Goods and products being labelled 'human-made,' anti-synth clubs popping up and a lot of discrimination. There was a borderline Hitler Youth-esque club that popped up (complete with uniforms) with an anti-Synth platform. Very interesting as basically any country in the world has its own problems and struggles with assimilating immigrants (especially with all the stories in the news lately about the boats traveling from Libya, Syria, etc and being turned away from Italy and other countries)

    [–]robmillernow 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's from whence the title is derived: Akta Manniskor is the name of the anti-hubot organization, and it means "Real Humans."

    [–]Huwage 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I guess we don't really know how the synths' memories work - are they transferable like normal data, or do they work more like human memories? From what we've seen, it doesn't look like there are any multiple copies of the same synth around. It might not be possible (or at least not widely known) that backups can be made.

    [–]jealousofgirls 14ポイント15ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Asimov robots can't break their programming.. it's an insult to the man. However, was I the only one thinking that this is a PERFECT sequel to Battlestar Galactica? Call the Synths Cylons instead and bingo!

    [–]Soddington 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

    If you are unaware there was a prequel to BSG made called Caprica that dealt with the emergence of AI. It was quite good but unfortunately didn't make it past season one.

    Well worth the time if you can track it down.

    [–]autowikibot 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Caprica (TV series):

    Caprica is an American science fiction drama television series. A spin-off prequel of the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica taking place 58 years before the cataclysmic destruction of the "Twelve Colonies of Kobol", Caprica shows how humanity first created the robotic Cylons who would later turn against their human masters. Among Caprica's main characters are the father and uncle of William Adama, the man who becomes the senior surviving military leader of the fleet which represents the remnants of the Twelve Colonies in Battlestar Galactica.

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    [–]Spazit 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Caprica is on US Netflix for those that are curious.

    [–]antdude 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I didn't like Caprica. I stopped after S1E11. Did it get better? I assume it never got a proper series finale. :(

    [–]Huwage 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I mean, we haven't seen one strictly break its programming yet... Also, the 'super-synths' might not have the 3 Laws programmed in?

    [–]jealousofgirls 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

    wasnt it implied that the 'Merlin' character had taught that group of sytnsh to break their programming which is why they were being hunted down?

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The guy who kidnapped that black synth said something like they were created differently so they would have human-like consciousness/emotions.

    [–]Huwage 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Possibly. It's that, or their enhanced intelligence/sentience gave them the initiative to follow him on their own. We shall see...

    [–]DornishMasterPlan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If the show goes like the original, these synths have been given consciousness which is different from teaching them to break their programming. Remember they mentioned David Eiskler (or something like that) as the one who gave them consciousness, not Leo (who's the guy looking for Anita/Mia) and the other synths.

    [–]GoldfishAvenger 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Actually you're wrong. But the philosophical debate that creates is probably way over you head judging from your post.

    [–]jealousofgirls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Prove me wrong then clever cloggs

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That is one really cool opening credits.

    [–]Gone_GirlNiska 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That's my Sunday night telly sorted :) great first episode I thought. How many weeks is this on for?

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    8 episodes if you include this one.

    [–]Vancha 11ポイント12ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Can anyone who's watched the Swedish version (Akta Manniskor) say what they thought of this by comparison? I decided to watch the first episode of Akta Manniskor a couple of hours before watching this and I think I prefer the swedish take on it at this point. The music, casting and acting are on par, but I felt the story didn't flow quite as nicely and it came across as a little more sterile.

    [–]kpbearfl 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The original has a slower pace but is more intriguing, it takes a lot longer to reveal plot points and you begin the story from the point of view of the special, enhanced androids, caring for them.

    The last scene in the first episode of the british show has something totally new compared to the swedish one and this can mean (I hope) a few changes to the story, so even if you've seen the original can enjoy the new one.

    [–]failsatfunny 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    There are three big differences I've found so far, and I don't think any of this contains any spoilers.

    • The English version, so far, is not as good as the Swedish version. They're changing the backstory for many of the characters, but keeping their actions the same. Now the motivation for those actions makes no sense. I don't want to list anything specifically for spoiler reasons.

    • The new actress playing Anita is way better suited for this role than her Swedish counterpart. It appears they're making her the star of the show. The mother was a much more important character in the original.

    • The creators of the English version seem to have made a conscious decision to ignore the undertone of the original series, and that is tragic. The characters in the original series were very vocal about their fears of hubots. But what they said, and what they felt, were two entirely different things. The hubots were big walking metaphors. They frightened humans because they constantly reminded them who the real monsters truly were. What the humans feared was human nature. It's a modern take on the Frankenstein story, and done in absolutely brilliant fashion.

    [–]Vancha -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You just cemented my decision to stick with the Swedish version, so thank you. Thank you also for keeping it spoiler-free. That was vague enough even for a spoiler-paranoid person like myself.

    [–]DornishMasterPlan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As a big fan of Akta Manniskor, I really liked this first episode of Humans. Some things seem to be changed but I'm not sure if the show is heading to revealing other characters at a later time or have omitted them out completely (I hope not).

    The soundtrack is pretty great too. I'm really looking forward to the rest of the series. (Does anyone have any news on a third series of Akta Manniskor?)

    [–]jeffhayford 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The English version is much more sterile and robotic. The Synth's are much more robotic, the characters (so far) haven't made any compelling arguments for me to care about their position. The father within a few minutes of the episode gives up and buys a Synth. The mother jumps from one sensational plot point to the next. Toby catches one curve and attempts to be sexual having no information about him.

    In the Swedish version much more time and care is taken to giving the characters motivation and reason for their actions. Every decision carries more importance and you really care for the characters especially the Synths. Also as someone pointed out the Swedish version starts with us caring about the Synth's first. The father debates the purchase much longer, has second thoughts about a sexual software card, and fears the decision as much as he supports it. The mother also plays back and forth with whether or not it's good or bad and ultimately rewards the good moments. Toby is caught looking longingly, contemplates what he did as wrong, fights against it but ultimately doesn't have the will power, and the moment of contact carries much more importance.

    [–]CRISPR 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Remake is generally on part with original. Upper class father was inferior to original counterpart. Niska is worse.

    [–]DornishMasterPlan 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Is the Niska on Humans the same as Niska from Akta Manniskor or a combination of Flash/Niska? I'm not sure which character they're going for here.

    [–]CRISPR 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    New Niska sucks as a hubot synth

    [–]Huwage 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Getting something of a Blade Runner vibe from this... Several synths/ replicants of a more intelligent design on the run from the government that owns them?

    [–]ItsBobDoleYo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I watched the original series and am very pleased with this. Quite optimistic about it going forward.

    [–]McGubbins 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I think the casting's great. Had to look up who played Laura but I should have known that voice anywhere. She looks really different in here.

    Katherine Jane Parkinson

    [–]DornishMasterPlan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I was wondering why she looked so familiar and realized she was on Inside No 9. Apparently she was on Sherlock too.

    [–]alien_from_Europa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You did your spoiler tag wrong.

    Katherine Jane Parkinson

    [Katherine Jane Parkinson](#s "spoiler here")

    [–]InUrFridge 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It's funny, the "singularity"; this idea that once machines surpass us in function we become obsolete. It's sort of the end point of human-centric speciesism.

    I'd like to think that by the time we have intelligent machines they'll recognise the value of life for what it is - and not what it can be used for.

    [–]travio 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Or we will have figured out a way to transcend being human ourselves.

    [–]RarelyReadReplies 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Maybe if we don't treat them like shit, like some of these people do.

    Late comment, I know, just realized the show already aired. It doesn't air til next week where I live, I guess Canada is behind. I'll definitely watch episode 2 tonight and pop into that discussion thread though.

    [–]hoseja 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can't help but chuckle whenever Jen is in a scene, being all serious.

    [–]regrubmaHAny inappr. physical contact must be reported to my primary user 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The pilot was pretty solid, expressing most of of my concerns for AI. I'm already loving the soundtrack, not as much as Utopia, that has a special place in my heart (and my playlists). I think Synths will eventually become more dangerous, and this will bring more suspense to the series, like that final scene for example? Where the hell is Anita taking Sophia?

    *Also one obvious sidenote, the subscribers of this subreddit should probably change to "Synths"

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    the subscribers of this subreddit should probably change to "Synths"

    Noted!

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    [–]pizzaiolo_ 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

    fucking synths

    [–]Bytewave 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Panties down, not off. Too soon?

    [–]greentangentI'm an analog man in a digital world. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That is fucking spooky.

    [–]cyberocket 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Great first episode. I really hope this doesn't get cancelled.

    [–]Huwage 5ポイント6ポイント  (22子コメント)

    Interesting... Merlin seems to be some kind of synth rights activist or something, maybe busting androids out of the factory to live 'normal' lives?

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (21子コメント)

    And by the way they held each other it looks like he might have been in a human/synth relationship with Anita.

    [–]Huwage 6ポイント7ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Ok, synth brothel, it's definitely a thing.

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Oh God I feel really sorry for that girl (Niska?).

    [–]Gone_GirlNiska 8ポイント9ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Me too. She should have turned her pain setting off :(

    [–]whelks_chance 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

    I thought about this. Why what would be the motivation to turn it back on afterwards?

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Because she doesn't want to be like most synths; without the ability to feel/have emotions, she was made with the ability to feel pain just how humans do and that is important to her.

    [–]whelks_chance 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Wouldn't it only be important to her during the time she is feeling enough to know she would miss it?

    My assumption is once the feelings are switched off, she would only have robot logic left, which would potentially struggle to see an upside to having herself controlled by unpredictable and irrational emotions. What she "wants" would be closer to her original programming.

    Logically, it's more logical to not have to consider feelings - both in terms of the ability to continue "living" in the most energy efficient and stable way possible, but also in terms of ability to stay safe from people trying to find robots with feelings.

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Would you switch off feelings if you could? I think I might do it if it was just switching off pain but I would never choose to lose all emotions. Though I'm not sure if it was ever said that she could switch all feelings off or just pain.

    [–]Huwage 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Damage prevention? If you can't feel pain, you can't easily tell if you've been injured. There's a real medical condition which prevents pain, and it can be very dangerous to the sufferer.

    From a more emotional standpoint, pain is part of being 'human', I guess.

    [–]whelks_chance 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Would pain stop you from being injured? Or would it tell you to be more careful next time? Would a robot need to be reminded, with their perfect clarity of history?

    And emotionally, which is how I was interpreting the question, I'd have thought is an energy sink for no real gain, unless the objective is to be "more human", but I'm not clear what the motivation for that would actually be.

    Unless they were programmed (intentionally or otherwise) to attempt to emulate human life as closely as possible.

    [–]Huwage 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Stick your fingers in a flame. You feel pain and snatch your hand away before there's any lasting damage. If you don't feel pain, how do you know when to take your hand away? Kids with congenital insensitivity to pain can break bones without even realising, risking serious and permanent injury. Pain's not just a reminder, it's a warning.

    I guess emotionally, it's just a way of differentiating one's self from a pure machine, which doesn't 'feel' anything. For Niska(spelling?) specifically, she seems to be using the pain to fuel her own anger and desire for revenge. Feeling things, regardless of whether they're negative or not, is an integral part of being 'human.'

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    Congenital insensitivity to pain:

    Congenital insensitivity to pain (CIP), also known as congenital analgesia, is one or more rare conditions in which a person cannot feel (and has never felt) physical pain. The conditions described here are separate from the HSAN group of disorders, which have more specific signs and etiology. Despite sounding beneficial, it is actually an extremely dangerous condition.

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    [–]travio 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's like a cheat code in a video game. You tell yourself you will use it to get by a hard part and after a few more times you just run through the level on god mode.

    [–]Huwage 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I mean, it's a very effective way to hide in plain sight... just an awful one to experience.

    [–]Huwage 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

    That certainly is a whole other set of implications to this kind of tech... I'm sure we'll see it explored, quite possibly with the teenage son.

    [–]travio 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That was the first thing I thought when he brought it home. I remember being a teenage boy. I would be taking advantage of that. I wonder if they have any safeguards to stop that though. She mentioned something about not being able to initiate physical contact with a child under 12 without parental permission. Could the parents also add a no fucking our teenage son rule?

    [–]Huwage 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Judging by that '18+' option leaflet, I imagine there's a specific way to authorise things like that, almost certainly needing primary user permission.

    [–]inspctrgdgt 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Oh, I think it'll be explored, all right... But with the dad, not the son.

    [–]Huwage 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Why oh why did I look at this sub before watching Episode 4... Ah well, there were enough hints in 3 to clue me in.

    [–]inspctrgdgt 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    There are only 2 episodes available for me thus far?

    [–]Huwage 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You'll be in the States, then? Episode 4 was last night in the UK.

    [–]CosmicChef 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Seriously loving this show at the moment. I love the debate about what makes you human. I feel like this show was really reminiscent of I robot, even down to the drowning scene being alluded.

    [–]Bub1023User885 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why the hell did AMC remove the rifle scene with Matilda and Anita?

    [–]CornCobbDouglas 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Is it aired? Can a person find it in the high seas yet?

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's gonna finish 30 mins from now.

    [–]boweruk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It was alright. We'll have to see how it progresses I guess.

    [–]lispychicken 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Finally watching now - I find it very interesting that the androids are all in shape and none are even fat or chubby. As if society made a decision for the best.

    hmm

    [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If they are not fat then they can do jobs more easily/quickly and they cost less to make.

    [–]antdude -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Attractive types.

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      [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      It aired in the UK yesterday.

      [–]monsieuruntitled 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Oh nice. I'm in US, it airs on AMC later this month. Can't wait.

      [–]antdude 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It sucks that Americans get it late, legally.

      [–]BiddlyBongPills -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Anyone else really underwhelmed with what they saw? I thought it was boring, didn't really believe any of the actors and just generally unconvincing. Not sure if my massive love for Utopia meant I kept making comparisons and set my expectations too high

      [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Going into any show expecting Utopia standards might not be the best policy but I think this episode had a lot of characters to introduce and so now they've got that all out of the way they can start advancing the story.

      [–]my_lovely_manNeil Maskell's permanent scowl 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I hope the Detective Sargeant finds out whatever happened to that Jessica Hyde girl...

      [–]drummerdoc84 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's a slower pace than Utopia, but just as thought provoking. It should get a lot more interesting as it goes on. The soundtrack is pretty good (same composer as 'Utopia'), and I think the casting isn't too bad either. Looking forward to getting sucked into it. What to do for a week now?!

      [–]Gomtu -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I just finished watching it, and found it quite predictable. I see a Cylon revolt building, with all the sub-themes included, the sex worker, the black slaves, the oppressive white corporate villain, etc. Of course the new android slave in the house is a gorgeous female who the lady of the house sees as a threat, which she is, but not of the kind the wife thinks. She absconds with the kid at the end. Big tension builder for ep 2.

      It could have been done better.

      [–]robmillernow 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      You couldn't be more wrong. The show is smart and far subtler than that.

      [–]secretgspot -4ポイント-3ポイント  (6子コメント)

      1, living in the future, still driving old cars that use steering wheels.

      2 using tablets and monitors from 2010

      3 weird looking alive synths that breath and get exhausted from running.

      4 robots using contact lenses, can't they just alter their eye color?

      I don't see much for this show if they don't alter the plot radically and focus what ifs instead of making it another soap opera crap.

      [–]The_King_of_OkayNiska[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

      1. living in the future, still driving old cars that use steering wheels.

      2. using tablets and monitors from 2010

      The show isn't set in the future. It's set in a "parallel present". Basically meaning it's supposed to be set in the same world as ours in the same year (roughly), but with synths existing.

      /3. weird looking alive synths that breath and get exhausted from running.

      If you mean Leo, we don't know if he's a synth. I don't think I remember any of the other synths breathing and getting exhausted from running.