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[–]wongo 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

it's just so crazy to me that this is such a big deal. just saw some other people in another thread going back and forth about this, too.

1) it's perfectly acceptable for there to be multiple pronunciations

2) I'm not sure if there's such a thing as an authority on the pronunciation of acronyms, and I'm not sure there should be

3) the inventor is not the ultimate authority, but I don't think we should completely ignore his input, either

4) in the end, it's totally subjective. someone in this thread said "jiff" just feels stupid to say. for some reason, I feel the opposite -- "jiff" just feels right, while "ghiff" feels wrong, even though "gift" is perfectly normal. doesn't make any sense to me.

5) it's an arbitrary pronunciation of an essentially arbitrary acronym -- we can call little moving pictures on our computers whatever the fuck we want, what does it matter?

[–]Monkeyavelli 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never. This is worth dying or killing for. Those who pronounce it incorrectly are monstrous abominations, affronts to human dignity that cannot be endured.

The only solution is found in the camps, and I'll tell you now fence-sitters like you have a one-way ticket.

[–]jamesbondq 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just kind of funny that a file extension is like the epitome of something that's been standardized, and the one remaining aspect of its existence is suddenly not.

[–]Ex-Rumia 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not about gif/jiff, is about whether or not you pronounce the . before the extension.

[–]adaminc 0ポイント1ポイント  (51子コメント)

It's gif, like jif, or geography.

[–]PenguinPerson 22ポイント23ポイント  (11子コメント)

I disagree. Its GIF with a G and by reading your orher comments you feel way too strongly about this so yeah I plan to egg you on a bit. Just because its creator acted like he had a speech impediment when he said it doesn't mean that the rest of the world should emulate him.

Its a simple Tomato Tomato situation (which might be an even bigger argument than the gif vs retarded jif one).

[–]jazzped 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Or, you know...

Gif, like gift, not jift.

[–]adaminc -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Like Gin?

[–]jazzped 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm really trying to find a word starting by the letters "g-i-f" that pronounces the "G" as a "J", if you could that would be great!

I think using the same letters as in the relevant term is a better way to determine the pronunciation of a word.

[–]adaminc 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you think that using the same pronunciation as the expansion is a better way, which does make some sense, than you need to start saying jay-pheg for JPEG, or really any acronym that includes the word photograph, or phone, or phoenix, or physics, or physical, or or any of the other digraph.

Look at PhD, that Ph should be pronounced as an F, as in Philosophy (Doctorate of Philosophy)

[–]jazzped 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I agree that it doesn't make sense to determine the pronunciation of an acronym based on the pronunciation of each word the acronym is built on. We're on the same page on this one.

Please note that I never mentioned that it was a good thing to keep the hard G based on the word "Graphical".

I just can't find a word starting by the letters "G-I-F" that uses a soft "G". If there is no other word in English that uses a soft "G" when starting by the letters "G-I-F", then I think it's counterproductive and ridiculous to create a new pronunciation rule just for a single word.

[–]adaminc 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not really a word though, it's an acronym. Acronyms aren't actually words, even though they are sometimes pronounced like them.

[–]jazzped 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Previously, it was only an acronym.

It's now considered as a noun by many dictionaries though.

[–]adaminc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did not know that.

[–]theymightbegreat 4ポイント5ポイント  (25子コメント)

yeah, just like Jrafic Interchange Format, huh?

[–]ElGoddamnDorado 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, because that's totally how acronyms work.

[–]boothroyd917 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just playing devil's advocate here, but if that's your argument for why it's a soft G, then why isn't NATO pronounced NaahTO? Or why isn't SCUBA pronounced SCuhhBA? Just because gif is an acronym, doesn't mean you automatically have to follow the same pronunciation as the original word in the acronym.

[–]omnilynx 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

An example with a consonant change would be more persuasive. Vowels have always been pretty malleable.

[–]boothroyd917 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, you don't pronounce the other photo file extension jfeg, correct?

[–]oh-just-another-guy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I should try saying it as jee-eye-ef and see what happens :-)

[–]Jottor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In Danish, "geografi" is pronounced with a hard "g". So is .gif

[–]psykulor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's gif, like ghif, or gills.

[–]krazy_dragon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you have to spell it differently ( jiff ) to get your point across, you're pronouncing it wrong.