Reddit auto-shadow banning

FartKilometre · 12時間前

SomethingAwful had this process years ago.

Break a small rule/shitpost? Probated, very short ban usually around 24 hours.

Break a rule/keep breaking the same small ones/shitpost? Banned, can no longer access forums. Re-register or buy an unban.

Still haven't learned? Permabanned, you cannot re-register. Perma'd posters who re-reg and get found out (they'll always go back to their old habits) instant perma on new account.

Then there was the Hellban. Saved only for the worst offenders who would just keep making new accounts and pissing away money, the Hellban allowed them to still see the forums and make posts and replies, but nobody else could see them.

StrikeTheRoots · 14時間前

Why are people mostly getting shadow ban? If it's for botting why isn't this a good solution?

thaweatherman · 15時間前

It should be noted that I did not make this video. It is a friend who was an active mod on /r/lockpicking before he was banned in this manner

EDIT: went to sleep after posting this. RIP my inbox in pepperonis

strallweat · 15時間前

There's a difference between the normal shadow ban and the ip shadowban. You have to break some of the more serious rules to get an IP ban.

SLUTTY_COCK_KNOB · 11時間前

I mean duh. They log your IP. All accounts you had associated with the IP when 1 of your accounts was banned are also banned. That's the entire point of stopping spammers creating bots to spam the shit out of this website. It works as intended for the most part.

Now I will say it's not being used as intended. Actual users who break the broad and vague spectrum of reddit rules, say harassing a user via PM, that person should at least get a message saying they've been banned from reddit for such reason.

fatbobcat · 5時間前

Something I don't get about shadowbanning - my girlfriend recently had her account shadowbanned. We assumed this was because she repeatedly posted content from her own site to a subreddit. However, this subreddit continuously loved her content, upvoted it highly, and the mods never once said anything. She engaged in the rest of the subreddit on a daily basis, and only posted her own content perhaps once every 2 weeks. But she was shadowbanned for this. Surely it should be up to the community to moderate its own content. I understand why self-promotion isn't Reddiquette but there's a difference between self promotion of good content that the community wants and protecting against marketing and spammers. Reminds me of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOtuEDgYTwI

RyanKinder · 14時間前

/u/spez (the ceo of reddit) has already stated that they are working on revamping the shadowban policy. also, one can appeal shadowbans by sending a message to the admins in the sidebar at /r/reddit.com

(I wonder, though, if having the phrase shadowban in the username and already having multiple shadowbanned accounts on your ip address might have caused a more immediate reaction.)

finitude · 7時間前

So, he made "an annoying bot" and he's wondering why he's being shadowbanned instantly? Is there more to this or is that it?

JUST_LOGGED_IN · 14時間前

Commenting to check if this /r/videos post ends up on /r/undelete .

thenovamaster · 5時間前

I was recently shadowbanned. According to the admins I was part of a "brigade" on /r/fphrecovery. Turns out I had found myself in that sub about three months ago and had downvoted a single post.

A single post.. and I was brigading. Watch what you disagree with out there people.

roraima_is_very_tall · 5時間前

another way to tell is, absolutely no one gives you an up or downvote, no matter what you write.

The1RGood · 8時間前

You know, most reddit profiling is done on your own browser. reddit saves the recent activity of profiles on your browser in cookies, so you can dodge this basic level of profiling pretty easy just by clearing your cookies.

If you want proof of this, you can look at your network traffic in chrome, or download a cookie-editor like "EditThisCookie". There's a field called <account name>_recentclicks2 that keeps track of which account has accessed reddit from that chrome session, and a brief history of what content they've accessed.

See, the reason this user keeps getting banned specifically in chrome is because they keep sending the same recent-access information, shadowbanned accounts and all, every time they log in, and the account is immediately flagged. That's why they can make accounts in firefox, and not chrome.

I'd bet a month of reddit gold that if they logged out of reddit entirely, cleared cookies, and tried logging in again, the account wouldn't get banned.

StoneColdJane · 5時間前

This shadowbanning is crap shit. I was using my old account for 5 month only to realize they shadowbanned me from start. I was completely puzzled wtf no one ever replay to my comments or interact with me, at the moment I had no clue about shadowbanning, when I heard of it, I checked and made a new account.

slickety_split · 4時間前

I found a video of the admins right before they shadow ban someone with an opinion that offends them. https://youtu.be/Sy95hbGiBmI

klingerfish · 15時間前

After watching this, I wanted to look at the comments, but the post was deleted. Looks like it's back now. God, reddit is shit.

Skipper_Blue · 6時間前

Didn't the admins specifically say that they were going to stop doing this?

ChemicalGoomba · 14時間前

Shadowbanning scares the hell out of me. If it was for an online game or something fine, but for a site that completely depends on user interaction and discussions, it scares me.

SHCreeper · 6時間前

Does that mean that when I use some public computer, I could be shadowbanned for it?

angleglj · 5時間前

Can't he just turn off auto-shadow on Direct X?

Shadowbanned24601 · 4時間前

I was shadowbanned two weeks ago without any warning or notification. I'm not a botter (can't program, have no money to pay someone to even if I wanted to).

And not just my main account either, but my alternates too (I'm guessing having alternates is what got me banned, although I didn't even know it was against the rules).

If I broke the rules, fine, just tell me and I'll stop. Nobody wants to be banned, one final warning would do it. We quite like being on Reddit after all.

I can't even use the old account for PMs now. I literally started a conversation by sending myself a PM from my new account to my shadowbanned account and although it arrives, I can't reply to it (well it seems I do, but my new account never receives it, even though it clearly started the conversation).

A shadowban sounds nicer than an outright ban, but it's actually worse. It doesn't just kill your ability to participate in a community, but it doesn't even have the guts to tell you. So continue on in ignorance.

No real users should ever be hit with a shadowban.

Gusfoo · 3時間前

The guy ran an abusive bot and has been perma-banned for doing so. Seems like a simple open-and-shut case.

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