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"Conventional wisdom has long suggested that bullies are “maladapted,” troubled people, lashing out because they had been abused or harassed themselves or at least had dysfunctional home lives.
A just-published Canadian study has added heft to a provocative new theory about bullying: that the behaviour is literally in the genes, an inherited trait that actually helps build social rank and sex appeal."
http://news.nationalpost.com/health/provocative-new-study-finds-bullies-have-highest-self-esteem-social-status-lowest-rates-of-depression
[–]JeanValjean197o 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'm amazed that The Woman Racket isn't on the sidebar. It outlines how the male dominance hierarchy is formed and also goes into how bullying and violence plays a part and who are the males engaging in it.
Essentially, those males at the bottom of the hierarchy are the ones most likely to experience or use violence. They sense that they are at the bottom and desperate not to fall further. Preying upon other males who are near the bottom and lack the strength or self-esteem to defend themselves is a tactic some employ.
At higher levels of status the "bullying" or jockying is more subtle and rarely even suggest violence. This might have been different 100 years ago, but these days males realize that the law doesn't look kindly on violence and they can lose more than just their slot in the hierarchy.
Then we can add in women to further complicate the hierarchy. Males are genetically programmed to defer to women. We do not naturally desire to compete against women, but women seem to have no compunction against competing against men.
What do men have to gain by beating women at anything? If we win, we beat a girl. If we lose, we got beat by a girl. There's no upside here.
It's a fascinating book full of RP truths and I highly recommend it.
[–]MattyAnon 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Bullying (competition, usually among males when it's physical) is not the same as AF/BB, a female reproductive strategy. Your title is misleading, OP.
[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 47分 前 (0子コメント)
This makes an AMAZING amount of sense.
Curious if anyone else relates to the following observation:
I have found that the ABSOLUTE BEST way to connect with women is to make fun of someone together. Often, I feel like we're just having a play-conversation UNTIL I mention that so-and-so is annoying... because THAT's when their faces light up, and suddenly we have common ground to talk about.
I have found that, when I am talking with women, making fun of others is perhaps their SINGLE FAVORITE thing to do. This seems to be true for every woman I encounter.
NO WONDER bullying is actually a display of sexual fitness. To me, that makes perfect sense. Pushing someone else down is one of the clearest status-signals you can send, and bitches love guys who can status-signal.
On another level, maybe the reason that women love to fuck guys who are "bullies" is because, on an intellectual level, women are bullies. Whenever I pull out a "bully" attitude around them and start talking shit about others, their faces light up and they get really engaged in the conversation.
Theory: Intellectually, women are "bullies." They just don't have the strength to actualize their bullying tendencies IRL.
[–]AndreNowzick 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Probably just testosterone.
[–]AureliusThunderkok 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 31分 前 (0子コメント)
A self-reporting questionnaire administered to high school students (one location only) is appended to a evo psych hypothesis, which is then applied to a sexual strategy theory? Sounds legit.
[–]foldpak111 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
I always thought bullying was a good thing. I got it bad and it made me tough
[–]TX_Man_ 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 33分 前 (0子コメント)
Same here
Being a short guy you really get it bad in primary education as a child, then you get it brutally from women in early adulthood. Learning how to defend yourself from these two groups who seek blood is the best education I ever got
[–]AureliusThunderkok 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 25分 前 (0子コメント)
That sounds like an incredible amount of rationalization to me. I think it's been amply demonstrated that bullying involves low-rank perpetrators and victims. It definetly is not Alpha behavior.
[–]grubek 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I've met bullies that were low rank in the social hierarchy and never got out of there.
I think there are two factors here:
Today everything is called bullying. Sociologist and educators tend to be feminized people who have a distaste for competition and aggression. Therefore they try to moralize against these strategies, subconsciously for their own success. They have resorted to calling anything that is not calmly talking as bullying.
Aggressive behaviour or "bullying" probably offers an advantage in some situations but it increases the risk of alienating people and backslash. Therefore abusing bullying as main tactic is probably a losing strategy, but using aggression sparingly and in an smart way combined with other social strategies is one of the ways to succeed socially. In my experience it is the best way at least for a male.
So you can see how a traumatized kid could turn to bullying and have very limited success but also how a non traumatized kid could use aggression aka "bullying" naturally and achieve great social success.
[–]2 Endorsed ContributorCisWhiteMaelstrom 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 25分 前 (0子コメント)
It's probably worth mentioning in your OP that this article says literally nothing about AF/BB.
[–]cariboo_j -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Life isn't fair. Evolution does not care about equality. Whole systems of thought and even civilizations have been built around trying to deny this fact.
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What makes red-pill so awesome is that it involves transcending predestination imposed on us by genetics.
[–]grubek 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
This has to be the most retarded comment I've read about trp and genetics.
Genetics don't create predetermination on the first place, but if they did then trp would not be able to change shit.
[–]JeanValjean197o -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I don't believe their is a predestination imposed by genetics.
We've been around so long as a species and alphas have so dominated reproduction that we are all descendants of Alphas and possess their genetics.
Without any knowledge of how the hierarchy works; without a father figure to teach us how to be strong; we sort ourselves into the hierarchy naturally and where we end up can be as arbitrary and random as blowing out you knee during a football game or getting the mumps and failing 3rd grade.
There are things that we can't control for like height, eye color, and other genetic features, but none of these necessarily result in a person being alpha.
A natural alpha is simply someone who wins more than they lose and it informs their personality and they way they perceive the world.
The self-made alpha is a person who may not have won all the time but has learned how to keep trying until they overcome those losses and then learns how to behave like an alpha anyway.
I should make thread about it.
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