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OpinionChina’s NGO Law (journal-neo.org)

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[–]FirstPotato 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, this article is a bias disaster...

Despite condemnation from so called human rights groups in the West...

A rejection of journalistic objectivity and a clear bias against human rights groups. Smells a little like otherization of a demonized "West."

Naturally, the shrill cries of “repression” and “hostility toward civil society” from western NGOs have done little to shake the resolve of Beijing as the government has recognized the critical importance of cutting off all avenues for political and social destabilization.

This is an opinion piece masquerading as news. If it is supposed to be an analysis piece, it's fairing even worse because there are no cited sources anywhere.

The predictable argument, once again being made against China’s Overseas NGO Management Law, is that it is a restriction on freedom of association and expression, and a means of stifling the burgeoning civil society sector in China.

Straw man, lack of journalistic sourcing, "otherization" of opposing viewpoints...

And this is no mere conspiracy theory as the documented record of the role of NGOs in recent political unrest in China is voluminous.

No sourcing...

The more I read, the more I am disturbed. This should not be posted here. Why did you not cite China Law Blog or China Law Insight? They probably have an actual legal analysis of the Foreign NGO Management Law. You decided it was better to share this ultra nationalist Chinese propaganda piece instead?

[–]Kameniev 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spot on. The most important thing, clearly, is that places like this can quickly spot propaganda for what it is. I was going to write a little bio for the author, but RT's (slightly edited) will do, I think:

Eric Draitser is an independent [in the sense that he uses his Creative Writing degree to re-hash Kremlin propaganda] geopolitical analyst based in New York City and the founder of StopImperialism.com. He is a regular contributor to RT, Counterpunch, New Eastern Outlook, Press TV, and many other news outlets [unabashed propaganda outlets]. Visit [Drown your cognitive shortcomings at] StopImperialism.com for all his work[, and remember: nothing is true, and everything is possible!].

[–]bushwakko 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The predictable argument, once again being made against China’s Overseas NGO Management Law, is that it is a restriction on freedom of association and expression, and a means of stifling the burgeoning civil society sector in China.

They're also suggesting that a predictable argument holds no weight.

[–]dieyoufool3[M] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is being left up so the Community sees what a bad article looks like. Thank you for changing a piece of propaganda (let's call a spade a spade) into an educational opportunity.

Hope your week has gone well!

[–]Zep_Rocko 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah NEO (New Eastern Outlook) is aggressively anti-Western in it's slant.

[–]pfunkmort 3ポイント4ポイント  (32子コメント)

The government in China, for all of the country's development, is still the same old Orwellian, Stalinist regime. They didn't like the Tibetans having a religion, so they kidnapped and replaced the panchen lama. They didn't like the Tiananmen square protests so they executed the protesters. They didn't like falun gong so they imprisoned and tortured them.

At the individual level, the Chinese are just people trying to improve their lives and they work hard for it. But behind the scenes is still this zero sum, cold war era regime more akin to north Korea than anything else... It doesn't get a lot of play in the west, but drivel like this is fed to the people to such an extent that a lot of them lap It up... Simply because it's the only reality they know.

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    [–]pfunkmort 2ポイント3ポイント  (18子コメント)

    Past transgressions of others don't justify current transgressions.

    Western imperialism was indeed a tragic thing. But the allies (ahem, including America) fought both world wars against imperialist aggressors (including the Japanese)... And today, the only western power wasting their time trying to empower themselves through imperialism is Russia.

    It is alarming but not surprising that the justification for human rights abuSes from (what I can only assume is) a ChinesE national is that past human rights abuSes from some other, unassociated historical period makes it acceptable. That, and not some lament by an ngo, is something I would call cynical rhetoric.

    [–]noviy-login 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I mean, that's some hefty rhetoric coming from you as well. To claim that only Russia and China are being imperialist might sound good on cnn or RFERL, but its bullshit

    [–]pfunkmort 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    How is the us practicing imperialism?

    [–]noviy-login 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well for starters it it tried to prevent its allies from joining a non US-dominated World-bankesque organization (albeit not very successfully). It is very clear that the Monroe Doctorine is still very much in place, as indicated by the coups that were either attempted or accomplished in the last decade, one which happened under the current administration. And that's not even counting that time when Evo Morales' airplane was forced to land and be subject to search in the EU during the Snowden affair. You might call it well-deserved or not, I don't care. But this is overt American Imperialism in action, and this is just what we can see.

    [–]HardShadow -2ポイント-1ポイント  (11子コメント)

    China has discriminated against countless ethnic groups on all of its borders and imprisoned and killed millions over its 4,000 year history.

    The deaths of Native Americans is a drop in the bucket compared to the deaths caused by Chinese imperialism, dynasty after dynasty.

    [–]rwat1 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Where is your proof that China has killed more than Americans have killed Natives?

    [–]HardShadow -3ポイント-2ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Uh, common sense. 4,000 years of dynasties expanding and brushing up against other groups which they killed and indoctrinated into the current dynasty. Do you think China's current borders actually reflect the ethnic homelands of the Han?

    Also, Americans didn't kill as many Natives as the Spanish, French, Portuguese, and British did. The US actually gave them special status in the Constitution and they have their own enclaves with their own laws. Do such enclaves exist for Mongols or Tungusic peoples in China?

    [–]rwat1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Native Americans have lived in North America for 30,000 years, which is far longer than entirety of Chinese civilization history.

    Also, China gave autonomous regions to Mongolians, which is the same as enclaves/reservations gave to Native Americans. They are both still inferior to the Central Gov't and Federal Gov't laws respectively, so it's futile to mention them.

    Why are Americans so consumed with their own bullshit propganda and embued with an 'holier than thou' attitude towards China?

    [–]HardShadow 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Why..are you using two separate comments from the same account? I just realized that you're just repeating yourself over and over and improperly using the Reddit reply system.

    [–]rwat1 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    China should sponsor some random Native American Chieftain and some random African-American Pastor as a vengeance for CIA sponsorship of Dalai Lama and Uyghur separtists/terrorists.

    [–]HardShadow -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Pretty sure that if Beijing goes that far, there will be a gun in the hand of every ethnic minority in China with an axe to grind, and US troops in Mongolia. Not sure you really want to start down that path.

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        [–]HardShadow 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Your English needs work, Chen.

        [–]feelsbatman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        How China deals with its people as whole is going to be a big issue as it continues its growth. Anecdotally, from traveling and doing business in a lot of the eastern provinces, China seems to regard the individual citizen much less. It's hard to quantify this feeling in statistics but the relationship between the state and the population is definitely different.

        I mean it makes sense logistically due to the sheer size of the population. However, if you look at how a lot of western nations view the sovereignty of its individual citizens like Israel, the disparity is vast.