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[–]PenisExpert -50ポイント-49ポイント  (44子コメント)

Did you not see his signal and the impending end to his lane? He was trying to get over. I'm sorry but as a truck driver myself I sometimes have to "take" the lane because inconsiderate pricks won't let me over. The turn signal is not asking permission. It's warning you to get the fuck out of the way.

[–]DAL82 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

The turn signal is not asking permission. It's warning you to get the fuck out of the way.

You might be a penis expert, but you're clearly not a driving expert.

I'd hate to be your insurance company.

[–]Sensual_Sandwich 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

But I had my blinker on!

You ran a bus off the road.

But my blinker!

[–]throwaway-accountant 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

Just because your lane is ending doesn't give you the right to take the lane with an aggressive maneuver like that. Better to signal than not, but it doesn't give you a free pass to do whatever you want and is NOT meant to tell people to "get the fuck out of the way."

[–]mesoscalevortex 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly. Some people seriously never learned the concept of right of way in driving school. Lanes that are ending in most places have arrows telling you to merge. Your job is to YIELD to those who already have a lane, not push them out of the way. If someone is in your way, you SLOW DOWN until you can safely merge. That's how it works. You don't automatically push someone out of the way - especially if you are in a vehicle strong enough to kill whoever it is you're running into.

[–]Synergythepariah -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The law says that, definitely.

Unfortunately, that doesn't always end up being the case; especially if you're used to driving in some cities where other drivers will see that you're going slow and decided to just cut ahead.

Then the driver behind sees it and does the same. Then it repeats more and more.

Next thing you know, the entire fucking zipper falls apart.

[–]mesoscalevortex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Many people don't seem to know about or care about the right of way when driving - as evidenced by this thread and the real world.

[–]CanadaHaz 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

The turn signal is not asking permission. It's warning you to get the fuck out of the way.

No... It's not. It's an indication of your intent to either turn on change lanes. It does not mean "get the fuck out of my way."

In a situation like this it means "I want to move over, if you can, please allow me to do so safely."

[–]Synergythepariah -5ポイント-4ポイント  (6子コメント)

I was taught that a turn signal means "I'm going to move over if I can do it safely"

Truck in the OP definitely didn't do that but maybe, just maybe; they were in the blind spot.

If someone sees the car, they're going to slow down or give it more gas.

If not, they're going to assume that the lane is clear and merge accordingly.

Maybe I'm just naive in assuming that every driver isn't out to murder.

[–]CanadaHaz 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not every driver is out to murder, but a lot of them are out there without their brains. This truck driver continued to change lanes despite the rabid honking of the car driver.

[–]Synergythepariah -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

He was likely concentrating on not running into the wall at the rapidly approaching end of his lane.

That he couldn't stay in.

Because it was ending.

[–]CanadaHaz 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

If he can't handle safely changing lanes and not running to a wall at the same time, maybe he shouldn't be driving. Both of those are kind of important and most people manage to handle that kind of situation without forcing someone else into making an equally unsafe lane change to avoid them.

[–]Synergythepariah -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Most people don't have to have a wall approaching them rapidly to make a stupid lane change.

They just forget where their exit is and dart across traffic suddenly.

[–]CanadaHaz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or...

Most people are able to safely make a lane change even with a fast approaching wall.

[–]Marc-DeMaco [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What wall? The two right lanes were exit lanes. If the truck driver couldn't merge safely, worst case scenario for him would have been a 5 minute detour. Are you saying that situation is less acceptable than almost killing me?

[–]Marc-DeMaco 35ポイント36ポイント  (25子コメント)

He signaled well after I was past the trailer. In the video, it's easy to confuse his brake lights with his signals but he didn't signal as early as people are assuming.

The turn signal is not asking permission. It's warning you to get the fuck out of the way.

You should not be allowed to drive.

[–]mightybonk -1ポイント0ポイント  (22子コメント)

I look ahead at the road, and frequently anticipate other drivers actions based on traffic or road conditions.

"Well, that lanes backing up, this guy might want to move over. I'll either slow down or punch it past so I'm not in his blind spot."

"Well, that lane ends. This guy must move over, or have an accident. I'll either slow down, or punch it past so I'm not in his blind spot, depending on what we both have time for."

If you're not doing this, and like to drive next to heavy trucks or trailers, I'm afraid this is going to keep happening to you.

It might not be super duper legal, and you might not like it... but it's what's gonna happen, so be there or don't be there. Totally up to you, and sometimes it's not up to the other driver.

[–]throwaway-accountant 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

I agree the cammer could have avoided this situation altogether and something like this can be anticipated. I would still 100% place primary blame on the truck if an accident happened, though.

[–]DAL82 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

English needs a new word.

Situations that aren't your fault, but that you also could've avoided.

[–]AgentMullWork 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Life?

[–]Sensual_Sandwich 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's something I like about German, they can just smash a bunch of words together and create a new one

[–]DAL82 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

God bless German for it's forty letter sixteen syllable terrifying compound words.

German: All our words are essentially sentences.

[–]Deaths_head -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being dead right.

[–]Marc-DeMaco 9ポイント10ポイント  (15子コメント)

My anticipation is what kept me from being run over. I didn't avoid getting hit by being lucky. I avoided that by swerving out of the way safely.

"Not super duper legal"

You mean "illegal."

[–]RedLogic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To reiterate on mightybonk's post:

Not only does it require anticipation, but also consideration for other drivers. It was obvious that the right two lanes were exit only lanes and there was a really good possibility the truck needed to change lanes. There's no way I would ever put myself in the position you put yourself in. Not only would I be making things more dangerous, I would be showing no consideration for another driver, specifically a driver in an extremely long vehicle that can't change lanes very easily. What mightybonk was saying is that when he does anticipate that another vehicle may need to change lanes he makes sure to minimize the amount of time he is in their way. Not only is this approach safer, but you alleviate a good chunk of the annoyance and difficulty of driving in traffic from yourself and others around you.

Nothing you did was illegal, but a good, safe driver does way more than just abide by traffic laws.

[–]ImAzuraG1W Ontario -5ポイント-4ポイント  (7子コメント)

So what was your ideal situation then? His lane was ending and you weren't letting him over, you were just sitting there blocking him. I guess he should have just crashed seeing as you weren't going to get out of the way.

[–]mesoscalevortex 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

The person in the lane has the right of way. The person in the lane that is ending has to YIELD to the people in the other lane. The person in the lane that is ending does not have the right of way no matter if he's driving a sherman tank or a motorcycle. Period.

[–]amandatea 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

There are these things called brakes. If he's too irresponsible to use them rather than running someone off the road (he's lucky that the person in the car with the camera had somewhere to go or that's what he'd be doing), then he shouldn't be driving.

[–]TotallyNotObsiFormer road rager; sober for 6 years [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Trucks that big don't brake that easily.

[–]amandatea [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Then the truck driver should have been paying better attention to where he was going and planned better, or taken a detour, as stated in this post, rather than potentially hurting or killing people. Either way, TRUCK driver was wrong. If he can't do better than that, he shouldn't be driving, let alone driving professionally.

[–]TotallyNotObsiFormer road rager; sober for 6 years [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He was paying attention and he needed to turn into the lane the cammer was in.

[–]DAL82 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's my responsibility to anticipate when my lane is ending. It's no one else's responsibility to make room for me.

I have to find my own gap. not make one.

[–]Banana_Shits 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

He could have just slowed down and merged behind. You know, like a reasonable, well-adjusted person. Jesus.

[–]mightybonk -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

You mean "illegal."

Nope. I mean, signalling and merging doesn't automatically place you in the right where you force someone else to evade - however, many places legislate the mergee has an obligation to make room for the merger.

Yes, either your quick blind spot checking, situational awareness or dumb luck the next lane was free kept you accident free the first time.

The second merge was classic /r/Roadcam 'Oh wow, look at this crazy spastic with a car! They've just proven they can't be trusted at all... welp, better start driving closer to them / not give them any extra room.'

[–]TheFunnyShotgunWho needs brakes? Garmin 20 Dashcam 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Find me somewhere that it is legal to force a car out of its lane, just because you have your turn signal on. That is how people die.

[–]mightybonk -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Force out of it's lane? OP could have slowed down, if not the first time then for damn sure the second time.

Here are the rules where I drive.

If you enjoy driving in people's blind spots, or leave less than a 2 second gap between your car and the car in front, and believe that a 10 tonne semi should come to a complete halt on the highway to wait for a gap because you didn't want to slow down a little bit, then I wish you and all your local truck drivers the best of luck, because you're going to fucken need it.

[–]DAL82 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Force out of it's lane? OP could have slowed down

Making OP speed up, slow down, or change lanes is absolutely forcing them from their lane.

I hope you don't actually drive like that.

[–]mightybonk -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hope you don't actually drive like that.

No-one forces me out of a lane. No-one forces me to slow down. No-one forces me to speed up.

  • Because I observe traffic and road.

  • Because I don't hover in people's blind spots.

  • Because I don't follow the vehicle in front so closely that it doesn't leave a gap for merging traffic.

[–]DAL82 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you enjoy driving in people's blind spots, Yes.

or leave less than a 2 second gap between your car and the car in front,

Yes

and believe that a 10 tonne semi should come to a complete halt on the highway to wait for a gap because you didn't want to slow down a little bit,

NO!!

I absolutely should never hover beside a semi, I should always leave a gap in front of me.

But that's my lane. I absolutely should make space. But I'm not obliged to make space.

You need to speed up or slow down, you can't ever merge where I am. The driver established in the lane has the right of way.

The truck should, if need be, come to a complete stop instead of forcing itself in.

[–]Synergythepariah -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

The turn signal is not asking permission, it's warning you to get the fuck out of the way

You should not be allowed to drive.

Turn signals exist for someone to communicate their intentions to other drivers.

They're a "I'm going to be turning" indicator.

Yeah, truck driver was definitely the bigger asshole by not signaling his intentions early enough; he likely was unaware of how quickly those lanes would disappear.

You seemed to have the same issue when you attempted to pass him and were surprised when he merged into your lane as his was quickly ending.

Sometimes, when you see that your road is literally running out, one can panic and maybe merge over without signaling, let alone signaling well.

Most people really don't want to run their cars into a wall.

tldr: You're both reckless, truck driver moreso. Both of you should have been more aware of the lane ending, you because he was definitely going to merge and him because one should be aware that their fucking road ends

[–]Marc-DeMaco [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The two right lanes did not literally end. They were two separate exits that he could have looped back around on.

[–]drmonix 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's three pedals. I know one accelerates and one is the clutch. Fuck if I can remember that other one though.

[–]Banana_Shits 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did you not see his signal and the impending end to his lane? He was trying to get over. I'm sorry but as a truck driver myself I sometimes have to "take" the lane because inconsiderate pricks won't let me over.

Here's a revelation for you: Your truck has BRAKES so that you can pull in behind the "pricks who won't let you over".

The turn signal is not asking permission. It's warning you to get the fuck out of the way.

Cut up your CDL right now before you kill someone, you self-important cunt.

[–]montchie 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just going to assume you're trolling because nobody with a license should be that stupid.

[–]1Arky [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm with you. Driver obviously had room to get over for the merge but matched speed with the truck so he couldn't get over. I'm with the trucker here.