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[–]Drake Queen of New ValyriaDaenysSeregaryen 63ポイント64ポイント  (54子コメント)

Turkey kind of has a history of killing civilians.

cougharmeniangenocidecough

[–]EE-Sama ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノawsomebot 18ポイント19ポイント  (11子コメント)

cougharmeniangenocidecough

inb4 Turks and Armenians debating over if it happened or didn't.

[–]Burningdragon91 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

just like Japan and China

[–]EE-Sama ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノawsomebot 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

Exactly. I really hate people who go full retard over the internet and talk about these stuff.

This argument has been going on for almost a century, and this guy thinks discussing it over the internet, on the Dota 2 subreddit, makes it any better.

[–]EmansTheBeau 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well to be fair, in the case of Japan and China, and even for the Turk and Armenian, it's not much of a debate. I mean, people do argument on the matter, but it's more a criminal court type of debate than a scientific one.

Number are there : Turk killed Armenian in great number, Japan went on China in so a brutal way that it make the Nazi appear soft, those are hard fact, but people will talk about circumstance, casualties, try to transfer blame, try to discredit the semantic instead of the content etc...

It's kind-of the "rape-culture" syndrome. You have sociological fact, but a deficient semantic that divide people because it's attack their identity (Be it gender or nationality) instead of just describing a situation.

[–]Stryghor puns!TheOneTrueDoge 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good post. Similar things can be said for American Institutionalized Racism.

[–]EmansTheBeau -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was like : Naaah, people are not that desperate to go on a political argument on Dota sub'... Then I clicked : Load more comments.

[–]Lyratheflirt 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Turkey has a history of buying oil off the black market form the daesh so I've heard.

[–]Burn the refraction then nuke, why is it so bloody difficult?Clearskky 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

Its funny how people scream genocide (that did not happen) and ignore everything armenians done to the turks like how many women and children they raped. They even put marks on houses' doors indicating that there isn't anyone left to rape.

[–]ulkord -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is that funny?

[–]SimoHalo -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

That never happened duh

[–]Metztli4393 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

coughGENOCIDEONTHEBALKANSFOR500YEARScough

[–]EG GEGE EGHjustice -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Plz don't post anything before you read enough history from original sources.

[–]wraoh -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

god i hate people referencing the genocide in every comment/thread about turkey. 3 pashas are to blame here; not turkey

[–]AlextheGerman 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That must be why the current Turkish government threatens and throws people writing about it in jail.

[–]wraoh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

well they try to supress everyone who is against their ideas: such as people who strictly defend secularism, people who criticize Erdogan's totalitarian, pro-islamist and pro-ottoman ideas. Erdogan's mistake was to defend the so-called "genocide" as it was a blantant "lie" instead of trying to convince people by using official soviet documents etc. If you ask me about my opinion, i dont give a damn if it happened or not because Turkey isn't even affiliated with the Ottoman Empire in the first place, thefore it can't be blamed. Erdogan's politics won't change Turkey being a secular, independent state no matter how retarded he is.

[–]Drake Queen of New ValyriaDaenysSeregaryen 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

It wouldn't happen is Turkey admitted that it was genocide.

Also, by that logic. The holocaust didn't happen because 3 German officials are to blame; not Germany.

[–]Qualine 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well I don't see that german people are beign blamed for that anymore. There is and always will be hate against Turks for the reasons unknown. The thing is we look at the wrong way to the world. World shouldn't be about nations but humanity. We should put our past AT PAST and move on to do the greater things together, so we can advance as humanity and maybe explore beyond earth. But thats not good for bussiness I think, so that would never happen.

[–]Drake Queen of New ValyriaDaenysSeregaryen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh I know my reasons for hating the Turks. Genocide and 563 years of illegal occupation are prime among them.

Once our dark corporate future is upon us I will stop hating the ethnic groups and switch my hate to the corporations. But until I get my wrist bar code I will keep hating them for their crimes

[–]wraoh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the thing is that german officials are RELATED with Germany on the other hand; enver,talat and cemal pasha were RELATED with the Ottoman Empire. Republic Of Turkey isn't connected with the Ottoman Empire in any way so you cant blame Turkey for what 3 stupid nationalist did back then. Turkey even wanted to hang them after the Turkish War Of Independence ended. So its not the same thing as you said

[–]Classic1977 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think that was the Ottomans...

[–]We need more Meepo (real life) hatsrDota2LurkerFo2Years 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ottomans are turks dude

[–]Siggi97 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

turkey is the follower of the ottoman empire, just like germany is the follower of the german empire

[–]ConnorMc1eod -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

COUGHNOTTECHNICALLYAGENOCIDECOUGH

[–]Drake Queen of New ValyriaDaenysSeregaryen 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

COUGHCOUGHWHODECIDESTHATCOUGHCOUGH

[–]Qualine 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

COUGHCOUGHWELLIFITWASATRUEGENOCIDETHEREWOULDBENOARMENIANSISNTITCOUGHCOUGH

[–]Drake Queen of New ValyriaDaenysSeregaryen 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Genocide: The deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.

Nowhere does this entail complete exterminatus.

[–]Qualine 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well I thought genocide was killing all of the ethnic group, so I learned something today thanks to you. Still, there is more to debate about that armenian genocide which I'm not gonna do that here. Thanks for the info tho.

[–]Drake Queen of New ValyriaDaenysSeregaryen 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

No problem. I enjoy debate so if you'd like to finish it in PM I'd gladly do so. I'm much more civil when I'm not shitposting.

[–]ConnorMc1eod 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.teachgenocide.org/files/UN%20Definition%20of%20Genocide.pdf

The Armenian Genocide does not fit the UN's criteria which is why the UN keeps pissing everyone off by not labeling it a genocide.