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Conservative columnist: Trump once backed single-payer health care | PunditFact (politifact.com)

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[–]Phillipinsocal 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

Trump changes positions on healthcare throughout time...........he's not genuine! He flip flops! Obama changes positions on homosexual marriage............he's progressing! He's changing for the better! Truly a hypocritical bunch, the lot of them

[–]aznperson 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

eh they both flip flopped imo

[–]The_Easterbunny 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do people consider trump to be a serious candidate?

[–]bllasaeLibertarian Conservative 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Originally I didn't think so, but now he's in the lead :/

[–]Biwin 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm not really sure why Americans think of single payer health care as opposing conservative values. Here in Canada we use single payer and our highly conservative PM agrees it's the best system.

[–]TheScientificAtheist 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because big government regulations raise costs, because people don't deserve to have my tax dollars paying for their healthcare and because I have a fundamentally right to contract who I want to be my insurer

[–]bllasaeLibertarian Conservative 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

A.) it sucks b.) Harper sucks and he's wrong c.) Harper is not conservative. And forcing someone to buy something [by increasing their taxes] is against Conservative values. That's why.

[–]Biwin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No that's against libertarian values. Conservatives can still believe some taxation is necessary.

[–]bllasaeLibertarian Conservative 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right, but minimal taxes. Increasing taxes past enough to keep the government alive is not Conservative.

[–]matty25Conservative -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

You don't know what conservatism is if you don't understand why conservatives don't like the idea of government run healthcare.

[–]CherryCokeNixon 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

More bizzaro-land voting in the "conservative" sub

[–]matty25Conservative 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lol yep and not even replies. Just downvoting a pretty simple fact.

[–]CherryCokeNixon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Liberals have been invading this sub pretty regularly for the past few months

[–]bllasaeLibertarian Conservative 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It always amazes me how many liberals come here just to downvote us and upvote other leftists. Literally nothing better to do, apparently. Shouldn't they be shilling for Sanders?

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I voted for a peanut farmer from Georgia, does that somehow condemn me to being a libtard for life ?

People actually can change their political leanings, despite what the idiots on the left and their brain dead drones might tell you.

[–]bllasaeLibertarian Conservative 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

As long as you didn't vote for him in 1980 you're good.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nope, I didnt, I am proud to say I voted for the greatest President this nation has ever had since I have been around that year.

As well as four years later.

[–]bllasaeLibertarian Conservative 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lucky son of a gun.

[–]gbimmer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I voted for a peanut farmer from Georgia, does that somehow condemn me to being a libtard for life ?

Yes. Yes, it does.

[–]propshaftRadical Redneck -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont feel like a tard, therefore I am not.

[–]tjbalpha47Conservative Millennial 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

There's a lot of things Trump has (supposably) changed on. We will not know for sure until someone asks those questions. One thing I know for sure is that I have no doubt that trump wants to restore America and make it great again.

[–]veedubdan74 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

As long as he profits from it, I have no doubt he wants to either.

Problem is, he is so greedy that he CAN be bought. Listen to him, all he cares about is money. But he is a "Christian".

[–]tjbalpha47Conservative Millennial 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

He doesn't need to profit from it. He's rich. He said that. If he really isn't running for the country, than it sure isn't about money. He's swimming in that.

[–]veedubdan74 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

But he wants to profit from it. That's just the type of person he is.

You believe something a candidate says when everything they do shows the exact opposite?

[–]Olipyr 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

But he wants to profit from it. That's just the type of person he is.

To be fair, that's all of them.

[–]gbimmer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that so bad?

If America profits Trump profits.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DQmraWcRIgk/VZQ6LHS0PsI/AAAAAAAAQmM/FaR3WSF5e9E/s1600/I-cant-believe-you-like-money-too-We-should-hang-out.jpg

[–]fullyopen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand your sentiment but that's the supposed appeal behind Trump. Theoretically, he's worth billions and is well-off. He therefore doesn't need any more money. Because he's at such an incredulously rich state of being, he cannot be bought. Mix the above theory with his harsh candor and ability to speak his mind, he gives the image of someone who cannot be swayed, bullshitted, or duped, especially given his successful record.

Whether you believe it or not is up to you.

[–]NosuchRedditor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't know what's more interesting, watching the leftist propaganda media flip the script to a question of who voters WON'T vote for, or watching all the people who fall for the rhetoric and repeat it.

[–]tehForce 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I won't vote for Trump but I think his participation is key. No matter what he has done in the past his current stances are going to help to pull the party back to the right where it should be. Jeb Bush and Christ Christy are going to run on 'centerist', i.e. leftist, policies and will fall flat on their faces. Bush will take longer to drop out - he might even make it near the end.