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[–]doomsought 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Depends on if you are in europe or the US. Europe has a history of the state having absolute authority and performing a great deal of economic intervention. National Socialism can be seen as a kickback to feudalism, making it right wing (since all right wing means is old). International socialism on the other-hand is (at least by propaganda) supportive of the rights of the lower class and is globalist rather- making it into the European left.

The US has a strong history of negative rights, which makes any form of authoritarianism anti-traditional. That puts both national socialism and international socialism in our left wing.

[–]I4dcQsEpLzTHvD1qhlDE -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

National Socialism can be seen as a kickback to feudalism, making it right wing (since all right wing means is old)

No and no. Right wing means inequality is good, left wing means equality is good. Reactionary means going back to something old, progressive means going to something new. What specific policies are reactionary or progressive is entirely dependent on the time and location in question.

[–]Valvar 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

The Nazis were extremely progressive for their time. I'm definitely not saying this as if it's a good thing. It's not.

[–]I4dcQsEpLzTHvD1qhlDE -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

In what way? The only thing I can think of that was a move away from traditions was getting rid of financial capitalism while keeping industrial capitalism.

[–]Valvar [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

They hated the old institutions, especially the royalty and the closed societies. One of their main goals was to create a new, socialised human. Attempts were made at moving much of the influence that the family has on children to the state just like in Soviet. The idealisation of the worker. Kraft durch Freude. All the regulation on allegedly harmful things like cigarettes. Etc.

[–]I4dcQsEpLzTHvD1qhlDE [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Most of what you listed was not new, it was plenty old. Idealization of the worker was old in the 30s. They did not hate old institutions, the church was incredibly important according to nazi policy. They simply didn't like institutions that competed with them for power. The only thing in your list that would be progressive is: "Attempts were made at moving much of the influence that the family has on children to the state just like in Soviet", except it is also complete nonsense. The family was deified by nazi propaganda, mothers were given awards for raising children.