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[Happenings] KIA mods censor major threads and happenings including Julian Assange and Vox Day. (self.KotakuInAction)

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Vox Day

Before https://archive.is/zLVKT

After https://archive.is/gS76X

Julian Assange

https://archive.is/UkfNu

Sargon's kickstarter controversy

https://archive.is/zQHvp

You might notice alot of "approved comments"

modlog https://modlog.github.io/#/r/KotakuInAction

https://archive.is/6gQN3

https://archive.is/F14fZ

https://archive.is/grVeY

https://archive.is/UIhg8

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[–]Hessmix@Hessmix 12ポイント13ポイント  (14子コメント)

/u/endomorphosis we approve comments all day long. It's part of our job here.

[–]ITSigno 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, it's a big conspiracy. Approvals = $$$.

[–]Hessmix@Hessmix 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Money?! I haven't even received my hotpockets!

[–]Methodius_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait, you got offered hotpockets? I do it for free!

[–]Wolphoenix 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there proof the Vox Day thread was brigaded?

[–]OY_VEY_ANUDDAH_SHOAH 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

What causes comments to need approval aside from the 3day rule?

[–]IAmSupernovaCosmic Overlord - @SupaNovaKiA 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

They get reported. They aren't actually removed you just have remove the report by clicking approve.

[–]ITSigno 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shadowbanned users, users with negative comment karma, certain words will trigger an automod report, and then of course comments/posts that are reported by other users.

Edit: among other things.

[–]Methodius_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also reddit's spam filter.

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

users with negative comment karma,

Was about time. This place has been Trolling Central for months.

[–]Hessmix@Hessmix 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

automod tells us of possible Rule Violations so phrases like "Go kill yourself" "You Cunt" and the like get flagged for us to look at to then go look at the context of said message.

[–]BrimshaeSun Tzu VII:35 / Survived #GGinDC 2015 / Dined #GGinNC 2015 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to mention boring shit like "you gamer phaggots bring this shit on yourselves."

[–]_Gehirn_ 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

[1] Thread was brigaded, still removing comments makes no sense, if mods are going to delete them they should archive the thread so they are preserved. You can still see them using uneddit btw.

[2] Dumb rules are dumb but what can you do about it?

[3] Wrong use of flair

OP is not a shill btw, he's been here since the beginning. Attack the argument not the person

[–]LifeThirdTier 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ah, seattle4truth. All you had to do was showcase your information in a non-conspiracy theory way (which is so fucking easy anyone can do it) and stop sperging out all the time. But no. You went full retard. Now all of your legitimate info is dismissed out of hand simply because you couldn't take criticism.

[–]Tohsakas_Anus 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

He's using the "known truths" line elsewhere.

Who is this guy exactly, some sort of digger? How reputable is he?

[–]DeathDealerAlucard 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

He's a digger who got upset when we didn't praise his conspiracy video so he turned anti.

[–]nope_not_open 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is he still anti and all? I haven't really been following it.

[–]DeathDealerAlucard 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I believe he tried to represent the anti side for SPJ

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3cqza4/drama_seattle4truth_defects_to_antigamergate/

[–]FriendlyPirate 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

whaaaat??? Isn't that the dude that made the 3 hour video about how GamerGate is actually about "re-education" or something. lol.

[–]Tohsakas_Anus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So OP is upset that we're not getting to see a video from an antiGG conspiracy nut? Is that about right?

[–]Cow_In_Space 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

1st: Brigaded, so self explanatory. Comments would be deleted to stop accusations flying around. Also, as per the rules, it should have been a self post.

2nd: Self explanatory. Broke the rules, should have been a self post. OP was obviously a karma whore who couldn't live without their precious link post.

3rd: The verified tag is mod only, for a very good reason. Should have been a self post (are you noticing a theme?).

A lot of approved comments simply means that there are a bunch of folk on warnings, not unusual. Would you rather them were banned entirely? Clarified better above.

[–]Methodius_ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

A lot of approved comments simply means that there are a bunch of folk on warnings, not unusual

This is actually untrue. Even if we've given you warnings, there is no flag on your posts. The list of stuff that makes automod go off has been posted above.

[–]Binturung 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

3rd: The verified tag is mod only, for a very good reason. Should have been a self post (are you noticing a theme?).

I figured that was why the Sargon post went away. Seems pretty self explanatory, if users could say "VERIFIED", it entirely defeats the point of having the Verified tag.

[–]mnemosyne-0000#BotYourShield 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Archive links for this post:

I am Mnemosyne, goddess of memory. I remember so you don't have to.

[–]Jack-Browser/r/TheCommentGraveyard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Post the first two archives to the sub shilled whithin my flair, plox. Oh, and please stop the pasta parade - makes it easy to dismiss you, duder

[–]kindraness 2ポイント3ポイント  (61子コメント)

First one was removed because it got brigaded. Second had nothing to do with games or Gamergate in any capacity. Last was apparently not removed by mods at all but just downvoted to oblivion though if it was it would be because it's mostly off topic - not everything to do with a person in GamerGate is about GamerGate.

I see no problems here.

[–]Unplussed 6ポイント7ポイント  (21子コメント)

So, the response to people brigading and trying to bury something... is to kill and bury it?

[–]g-divA nice grandson -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

When it makes discussion impossible because people from elsewhere are downvoting KiA folks and upvoting themselves, yeah. It's to remove their posts to allow for discussion of people who actually post here.

[–]OY_VEY_ANUDDAH_SHOAH 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

That is a hugbox mentality. Voices from every corner of the internet should be allowed to speak, or we will just create more SJWs.

[–]Methodius_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Also, it's not like these were people coming here and commenting. That's not brigading. And as long as they were following the sub rules, it would be allowed.

What they were doing, instead, was downvoting posts they disagreed with and upvoting ones they did. En masse. Which is brigading.

[–]OY_VEY_ANUDDAH_SHOAH -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

KIA mods have in the past claimed that they don't have access to analytic services that can determine whether or not a brigades are even occuring. So unless they asked and in an extreme stroke of luck actually received a timely response from the admins... anyway it's probably just a tale to justify their own behavior.

[–]Methodius_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

We were actually notified by someone here about it. SubredditDrama had apparently linked to the thread, and the user noticed some drastic changes in the karma in the post linked and the first reply and then contacted us about it.

So no, we don't have access to any kind of analysis like that, but it'd be nice. We can only tell it happens when it's obvious -- when another sub links to us and the karma of the thread starts going out of whack.

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    [–]Jack-Browser/r/TheCommentGraveyard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But that is MY sub, automod...

    Yo shitlords! Feel free to brigade my sub, idgaf!

    See, automod? Permission granted :D

    [–]g-divA nice grandson 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Brigading is specifically against Reddit rules, no? Mods can't overrule Reddit rules, they have to enforce them.

    [–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Mods have the responsibility to prevent brigading of other subs, not to wipe out posts that have been brigaded by others.

    [–]g-divA nice grandson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wait...so they should just like a brigade from another sub come in and completely derail any and all discussion amongst folks in this sub?

    How does that make sense?

    [–]kindraness -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Looks like it was an upvote brigade - the comments are all pretty critical yet it has a considerable amount of votes. I'm guessing a Vox fanboy posted ot somewhere and told people to upvote it to push it to the front page.

    [–]Danielle_S 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

    So take it to the admins. It's disheartening to see chains of [deleted] on kia. That's the bullshit I came here to get away from.

    [–]IAmSupernovaCosmic Overlord - @SupaNovaKiA 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Yeah we talked to the srd mods to give them a chance to act. They told us to go to the admins. So we went to the admins.

    This was hours ago and long since handled.

    But I guess when Logan saw it he thought that the brigade meant we should remove it all. I told him in the future not to do that. I hate that. I think it's weak as hell.

    [–]Methodius_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah, it's definitely worth mentioning that this was a single mod doing this, and most of us didn't like it. And it won't be happening again. So nothing really to worry about.

    Next time someone brigades us, I'm just going to tag the damned thread with "Brigaded by (sub)".

    [–]IAmSupernovaCosmic Overlord - @SupaNovaKiA 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lol we do that srssucks and it makes the srd users rage.

    [–]Danielle_S 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I agree. Leave it as evidence as we did when they brigaded that month old thread months ago

    [–]Methodius_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We did take it to the admins. But it's not like the admins are actually going to do anything about it.

    [–]kindraness 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That isn't necessarily the admins job y'know. The mods can also handle it and they did. It's not fair to the board if people can just swoop in and go "Everyone go upvote my thing" especially if it's a self beneficial post. The post was for a specific person to create a product. If it was just general news, I doubt mods would've cared.

    [–]Danielle_S 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That isn't necessarily the admins job y'know.

    Except it is. It's not their only job but it is indeed part of their job. Brigading is prohibited site wide and enforcing the rules of reddit is their job. If someone asked someone to vote on something, the admins would be able to determine that. They have the tools available to determine where the votes are coming from. This is how if someone is linked asking for support etc from twitter, they know who participated in it. So:

    That isn't necessarily the admins job y'know.

    is completely illogical when it actually is, y'know. at least until they give moderators the ability to determine that themselves.

    [–]Tohsakas_Anus 5ポイント6ポイント  (36子コメント)

    OP's most likely one of the D&C shills that have been trying to play people against each other on Twitter the last few days.

    Brand new mods, new head mod announced, and drama against the mods. A day late but within the pattern noted by many posters.

    [–]KingdomThrowaways 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    OP is definitely from the early days. I remember because he claimed his wife was brainwashed by a SJW psychiatrist or some such.

    [–]Tohsakas_Anus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Then he's been playing a very long con.

    [–]endomorphosis[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes, a very long con. I complain about SJW's and govt corruption before gamergate, only to trick the gamers to divide and conquor them, and... usher in more sjws and corruption...

    [–]OY_VEY_ANUDDAH_SHOAH 1ポイント2ポイント  (32子コメント)

    You don't think its troubling that they are actively excluding people from the conversation, simple because of their political beliefs?

    [–]kindraness 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    They aren't. You wanna try to brainwash people into your agenda by going "I LOVE GAMERGATE! Now buy my crap or you're an SJW." then you should at least follow the rules.

    [–]OY_VEY_ANUDDAH_SHOAH 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I should? What rule am I breaking? I'm not Vox Day or Julian Assange. I didn't post anything relating to them.

    All of this fucking projection. If you're going to step up to defend censorship than fucking defend it. Don't call me Vox Day and assume you've convinced anyone of anything but your own ignorance.

    [–]kindraness 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That "you" was more a general statement to anyone reading and pretty obviously so. Fuck you guys really need to stop taking EVERYTHING as an affront.

    Seriously. You guys get so triggered by everything half the time.

    [–]Binturung 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Seriously. You guys get so triggered by everything half the time.

    It's becoming more common of late, although I suppose one could argue it was always like this. Elements of the pro Gamergate side behaving much like the people they profess to be against. Have an opinion they don't like and you try to argue for it? You're a shill. A ghazi troll. You're not a Gamergate supporter because your language is not inclusive enough. Had all of these, from the same person after several exchanges. That last one made me laugh.

    Apparently saying Ian Miles Cheong wrote some ok articles and that his change is a good thing is unacceptable!

    [–]Tohsakas_Anus -3ポイント-2ポイント  (27子コメント)

    If that was what was happening, yes.

    Thankfully it isn't, unless you're getting your information from 8ch's GG tinfoil board.

    [–]OY_VEY_ANUDDAH_SHOAH 0ポイント1ポイント  (26子コメント)

    But it is exactly what happened with Vox Day, right? And Assange? The excuse doesn't matter --"brigading." They are banned here for the same reason they are banned everyone on reddit, and that is because of their political beliefs.

    You have to be daft to seriously regard otherwise.

    [–]Cow_In_Space 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Are you blind? Or being deliberately misleading? The Assange post has a clear statement of why it was removed, breach of the rules regarding that type of post (should be a self post). The Vox one was brigaded, so it was removed. Both clearly explained.

    The Assange one could have easily been reposted under the SocJus flair as a self post.

    The Vox one... well, if it could be posted without his cronies being informed to upvote it en masse it could also be happily reposted as a self post using the correct flair.

    [–]OY_VEY_ANUDDAH_SHOAH -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    The self post rule only exists because removed links are just hidden, but self posts are edited to [removed] to censor the link(s) that are submitted.

    Watch the modlog for a few days. If it was posted as a self post it would be [removed] and you wouldn't ever see the link to the article that was trying to be shared.

    [–]Cow_In_Space 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Ahh, sorry. I didn't realise you were tinfoil material. Guess it's not surprising given your vocal fellating of vox day. So the mods made the self post rule to secretly edit links... Why would they waste their time? They could just keep the mod logs private. Occam's Razor.

    Mods are damned if they do and damned if they don't. I'll take a KiA clear of all the bullshit that self posting removed.

    [–]endomorphosis[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    A better question is, why weren't they public in the first place, could it be the constant complaining by users in the sub about moderation?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/383yy1/kia_rules_and_mods_criticism_and_debate_megathread/

    [–]Methodius_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    A better question is, why weren't they public in the first place

    Easy answer. It wasn't possible until recently. Shortly after it became possible, Hat helped set it up. And we're one of very few subs that has it set up that way.

    [–]kindraness 4ポイント5ポイント  (20子コメント)

    There are plenty of goddamn Vox Day posts that don't get deleted here. Stop being so goddamn paranoid. You don't see them because the community here doesn't particularly like Vox Day so those posts get downvoted.

    That's democracy.

    Get over it.

    [–]endomorphosis[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

    They didn't get downvoted, they got deleted by /u/logan_mac

    [–]kindraness 0ポイント1ポイント  (16子コメント)

    Every single one? Because I've seen a lit of Vox Day posts. Majority never get deleted. They just get downvoted.

    Please give me more conspiracies about how you and Vox are so oppressed, and how getting things deleted for brigading is harassment and how you're totally not acting like what you supposedly hate right now.

    [–]endomorphosis[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (15子コメント)

    Because clearly, you seem to be one of these "BUT GG IS ABOUT MUH ETHICS" (except for when its Sargon or the mods).

    https://archive.is/FPaCA

    [–]Tohsakas_Anus 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Oh, you're one of those people that uses "ethicscucks" unironically.

    Yeah, that pretty much explains everything.

    Also fuck off with your hateboner for the mods and Sargon. You're salty that your 8ch containment board isn't popular, I think we've all understood that by now

    [–]kindraness 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Well when 99% of the people bitching are people who use terms like "ethics cuck" and don't even give a shit about the GAMES portion of Gamergate and literally just want a conpletely useless "SJWS SUCK DUE HUR" circle jerk with no actual substance, it kinda reinforces my point. I don't give a shit if people post SJW stuff. I give a shit when people whine and bitch that they can't post off topic garbage here just because they want too.

    [–]OY_VEY_ANUDDAH_SHOAH -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I only ever browse "new" and haven't seen very many posted here. Upvotes and downvotes are literally meaningless in how I consume content.

    [–]kindraness 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I catch them a lot. And almost always downvote them because they're either clearly masturbatory or just stupid. Maybe I should post his latest one where he calls well known GGers SJWs because the dude literally doesn't give a fuck about Gamergate so hasn't learned any names beyond the most well known five or six.

    [–]g-divA nice grandson 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    BUT I SAW MY SHADOW MOVE!

    [–]kindraness 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sew it back on then Peter Pan.

    [–]g-divA nice grandson -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    http://media.giphy.com/media/owP3mq97iG1by/giphy.gif

    [–]Chris23235 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    These deleted comments are awfull, it makes any discussion impossible and it shows that discussion is not wanted. Until this is sorted out (in a way, where the mod who did the deletions is kicked out), I unsubscribe from KiA.