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Bookshelf railing (imgur.com)
togarnish が 7時間 前 投稿
[–]thatsnotmyrealname_ 69ポイント70ポイント71ポイント 5時間 前 (38子コメント)
Is this anchored to the floor in any way? I like the idea but if its not structurally sound, its useless as a railing system.
[–]ZigerianScammer 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 2時間 前 (28子コメント)
OP's boyfriend here. It is anchored to the floor with some pretty long screws(not sure of the length she used). The railing that was there when we bought the house was extremely wobbly and was a deathtrap waiting to happen.
I've stumbled drunk and high into the bookshelf railing a few times, walking into it in the dark and it's totally fine, that thing doesn't budge.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-42ポイント-41ポイント-40ポイント 1時間 前* (22子コメント)
(not sure of the length she used)
Long enough to go through a 2x4 vertically, then through the flooring, and countersunk so as not be visible. Oh, and they go right through an air duct as well. Sure.
Which means they dont exist until proven otherwise.
How are the shelves anchored to each other, oh boyfriend?
[–]ZigerianScammer 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 1時間 前 (9子コメント)
I don't know anything about woodwork and have no idea what you mean about the shelves being anchored to each other, but everything is solidly built. The shelves can all handle weight and the structure doesn't budge with my 185lb fat ass falling into it so I'd say it gets the job done.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-34ポイント-33ポイント-32ポイント 1時間 前 (8子コメント)
I don't know anything about woodwork and have no idea what you mean
Which explains the low caliber of your lie. There is no where for those mythical long screws to go.
[–]ZigerianScammer 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 1時間 前 (7子コメント)
Tell you what, if it ever moves/falls over and I break my neck I'll give you an update.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 1時間 前 (6子コメント)
We extend a reasonable standard of care via building codes to those around us, not ourselves. But I get how self centered you are to think that you made some reasonable argument.
and a photo of those long screws sunk into the base of the shelves would shut me up in a hurry. But I wont wait forever for that.
[–]Macaque-and-cheese 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (5子コメント)
Building code depends on the location of OP. I'm from Italy and residential building codes differ a lot from commercial building codes. I've seen worse railings in people's homes and they never had a problem.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-17ポイント-16ポイント-15ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
A building inspector already recommended they replace the last railing for being wobbly. They went ahead and placed two heavy, free floating weights above a stairwell with zero, I repeat, zero structural integrity.
[–]KnightOfAshes 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (3子コメント)
Recommendation is not requirement.
[–]jo-z 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間 前 (9子コメント)
Just curious - what makes you think the air duct is running under the shelves and not branching from the center of the room?
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-20ポイント-19ポイント-18ポイント 1時間 前 (8子コメント)
I guess we have no way to know for certain. The boyfriend is willing to lie about a lot, so we really have no reliable sources.
[–]jo-z 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1時間 前 (7子コメント)
I'm not asking the boyfriend where the duct is. I'm asking YOU how you logically came to that conclusion before you rudely accused them of drilling through an air duct.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-18ポイント-17ポイント-16ポイント 59分 前 (6子コメント)
As soon as we get a photo of the counter-sunk screws holding it in place, we'll know for certain.
[–]jo-z 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 54分 前* (3子コメント)
I personally don't care where the duct actually is. You seem to know a whole lot so I'm curious as to why you accused them of drilling through an air duct as though it was a fact. If "we'll never know for certain", why assume that there's an air duct there (which doesn't make sense by the way) and then put forth the effort to be a dick about it?
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 52分 前 (2子コメント)
Is building a deathtrap not being enough of a dick already? How much loose weight do you heap over your stairwells and lie about securing?
[–]jo-z 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 12分 前 (1子コメント)
I'm beginning to question your reading comprehension skills because I haven't said a single word about the structural integrity of the shelves or whether the bf is a liar, yet that's all you keep yammering to me about.
[–]Grammar-Nazi007 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 54分 前 (1子コメント)
Go home. Nobody likes inspectors anyways. YOU just wanna whine until we bribe you enough to leave and approve it.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 52分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, I get the shitty redneck engineering vibe of DIY and how doggedly they celebrate mediocrity. I'm telling you lumps not to muck about on basic safety features for people that may not be aware of how likes and upvotes should be treated as structural features.
[–]mofukkinbreadcrumbz 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Just for the record, they do make screws long enough to do this. They probably were not used in this project, but they do exist.
I would have screwed a 2x4 laterally across the bottom of each of the boxes on the bottom. Then use those to anchor. Then cover them up with the bottom Shelf. That way you can't see the screws or the anchor boards, but it's actually stable.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yes, they can make screws 9 feet long. Thats not in argument. Look at the construction. Its not attached to anything, the two shelves are entirely free standing. Not connected to each other, not connected to the wall. The smaller of the two is going to kill someone when it topples.
That someone? The first small child that hangs off the back of it as kids tend to climb on things.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16ポイント-15ポイント-14ポイント 26分 前 (4子コメント)
Still waiting for any proof of that claim. Both you and your GF are in the thread, have cellphone cameras on your person right now and are connected to the internet.
It would take half a second to prove you didnt make some rushed dangerous mess.
But neither of you are willing to. Gee, wonder why.
[–]jcps 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 23分 前 (3子コメント)
Dude. Chill.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 21分 前 (2子コメント)
Why? because you are a millennial that gets upset when they hear criticism? I'm not your soccer-practice driving mom that follows your peevish demands to make your ears stop hurting.
[–]RandomRedPanda 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 14分 前 (1子コメント)
Why the fuck do you even want "proof" in this case? What are you? Some sort of a renegade structural inspector?
Man, some redditors are crazy.
[–]9551 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 7分 前 (0子コメント)
What are you?
Someone that does not want to see what amount to booby traps left behind when indigent redneck 20 year old a-holes move out and leave a death trap behind for someone to wound or kill themselves on.
Horrible, I know. Freakin' redditors man.
[–]9551 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 3時間 前 (5子コメント)
The whole thing is a terribly executed idea. I dont see how it was fastened to the wall either. Also, no shot of how the shelves locked together.
And even if you can overlook the safety issues, its the worst color choice on top of that parquet flooring.
But /diy upvote it to the hilt because who needs to have taste or apply a 'reasonable person' test of safety in design.
[–]gang_vape 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
Another downside which slings to mind is a big loss of light.. It would of been better if you left intermittent horizontal spacing. That and its a disaster waiting to happen at a drunken house party..
[–]9551 -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Shut up, the lumber stamps they varnished over add hipster chic.
[–]zeeyaa 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
not to mention the fact that it's a bookshelf made from unfinished 2x8's lol..
[–]pandas_ok -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 39分 前 (0子コメント)
is it generally a rule that alcohol being shown in diy projects means a certain whimsy with regard to health and safety?
also, it's too bad op put a back on it because it would be great for home alone-style hijinx
[–]OfOrcaWhales 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
useless as a railing system
Seriously, what do you people do to your railings? I have a railing like that and I've probably never put more than 10% of my weight on it. I might run a hand along it going to the bathroom.
You guys make it sound like you have drunk WWE matches with wild gorillas in your houses.
[–]Camberrrr 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 15分 前 (0子コメント)
it's supposed to not fail when you fall into it.
welcome to building codes and safety factors.
[–]MowgliSpaceman 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 39分 前 (0子コメント)
You must not have any physically disabled family members.
[–]deathputt4birdie 111ポイント112ポイント113ポイント 5時間 前 (15子コメント)
Clever use of space, BUT...
You've replaced an important safety feature with something homemade -- I hate to be 'that guy' but how is this anchored to the ground?
[–]tagrav 67ポイント68ポイント69ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'll take hopes and dreams for 200 Alex.
[–]812many 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 47分 前 (0子コメント)
OP Below states that everything is screwed into the floor and the wall. The building inspector only said that they need a railing on the stairs.
[+]HeatAttack スコアが基準値未満のコメント-27ポイント-26ポイント-25ポイント 4時間 前 (12子コメント)
As well if not better then most stair railings u can almost guarantee you of that. Normally a post or 2 that may be anchored to something solid if you are lucky, the rest of its just finish nails and caulking. ..
[–]godisdead30 30ポイント31ポイント32ポイント 3時間 前 (10子コメント)
the drill bit broke off inside one of the shelves it's now acting as a screw
I'm sure you're right. Rock solid craftsmanship here. /s
[–]Rye631 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
OP
[–]Angry_Caveman_Lawyer 40ポイント41ポイント42ポイント 3時間 前* (3子コメント)
It's one screw dude, if one single screw is the difference between something being okay to use and something not, then it's a shitty design.
I swear this sub gets out of control on this sometimes.
Maybe she should have used 5 inch bolts and poured concrete prior to installing the base, that way it'll never ever move.
Shit, it's a fucking book shelf built out of 2x4s. It'll hold for as long as OP needs it to.
She's not building the damned pyramids here.
That's what I get for browsing during a stupid conference call.
I gladly accept my downvotes that are inbound.
[–]Paremo 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
Also it's not about the screw it's about the "whoopsie, there goes the drill, guess I'll just use another one" attitude. Don't get me wrong, that kind of attitude is totally fine very often, just not when replacing railings.
[–]fezzikola 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
I don't blame you for not noticing. After all, you're just a caveman. What are these.. books?
[–]Angry_Caveman_Lawyer 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
Your world frightens and confuses me. As does railing not anchored to the floor properly.
[+]42601 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-17ポイント-16ポイント-15ポイント 3時間 前 (4子コメント)
Have you ever used a drill? It happens.
[–]godisdead30 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 3時間 前 (3子コメント)
I own several drills. I use them all the time (previously as part of my profession). Sure. It happens (rarely, if you know what you are doing) but you don't leave it in there as a "screw".
[+]42601 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 3時間 前* (2子コメント)
You're a real pro, congrats. But it's possible OP was being a bit facetious.
Besides, it's not easy removing a broken drill bit. I would just leave it there if it's not sticking out. You?
edit: oh great it's one of these threads.
[–]godisdead30 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 3時間 前 (1子コメント)
There are several ways to remove a broken drill bit. The easiest would be to replace the board with the bit in it. Ya, it's "one of those threads". We continue to see more and more as people who subscribe to r/DIY continue to praise horrible craftsmanship. There are numerous things wrong with this project. This fad of "rustic" looking garbage can't pass soon enough. If you want to know what true craftsmanship looks like check out r/woodworking. If OP posted this over there he would get crucified.
[–]AxsDeny 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
Craftsmanship.
[–]Fuel13 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
/r/OSHA
[–]Last_Rogue 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 5時間 前 (6子コメント)
Is there a way to fix 2x4's with big bows or twists in them? I've had boards like that on some of my projects, and they just get thrown in the scrap pile.
[–]Xhynk 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 4時間 前 (1子コメント)
Pull them off one by one before purchasing, and look down them from your eye to the floor. If it's too bowed, don't even bother. If it's really wet, it can still bow especially depending on your home storage conditions/angle. You can try building a steam box (an aluminum box with a hose that goes to anything akin to a tea-kettle, and heating up water) and clamping it from there. If you just manually unbow it from a really steep bow, or use screws to hold it down, there's going to be a lot more tension on that joint. If it's for something to hold a toddler/young child or two outside, probably fine with the right screws. If you're building a standalone raised deck for 15+ adults, you may want to reconsider buying some less bowed wood to begin with.
Also, the shorter the board, the less drastic the warp. If you need variable lengths, use the bowed wood to make the smallest necessary pieces, the bow will be less drastic and sometimes even unnoticeable!
[–]tossit22 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
To add to that, look at the end of the grain, and you usually will see a U shape that follows the way the tree was curved. If you have are building a horizontal plane, put the open end of the U facing down. Lumber tends to bow towards the ends of the board and the open ends of the U. If you have those facing down, then any weight on the floor, shelf, etc will actually be helping to keep the board straight. For vertical boards on the sides of a cabinet or bookshelf, you again want the curved side of the U facing out. You will be attaching the ends of the boards, and you want them to try to bend into the furniture, rather than away.
[–]diito 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間 前 (2子コメント)
You'd (re)mill them flat/square again. A jointer to get one face/edge flat and square to each, followed by a planer to get the 2nd face flat/parallel to the opposite face, followed by a table saw to rip the remaining edge parallel to the other one. You'll lose some thinness/width but it would be square/flat again. There are two issues with that though:
If you are going to use 2x4's from the home center for a project and can't mill it... The best bet is to pick through the stack and find the straightest ones you can. Of those look at the grow rings on the ends.. you want a steep angle of around 45 degrees to the faces if you can find it, rings closer together are better as well. That will be most stable material and least likely to move.
[–]Sixteen_Down 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 48分 前 (0子コメント)
Any wood you buy at a home center is going to be utter crap
Sorry for what's probably an ignorant question, but where do you recommend buying wood for projects like OP's? As someone that doesn't see much more than large box home centers anywhere around me, I wouldn't know where to begin to look.
[–]photographic_mammory 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
If you grunt a lot you can sort of get things sort of square with a plane, a metal 90 degree angle, and shit ton of hard labor.
I imagine for the purpose of a rough 2x4 bookshelf you could fake it with a table saw. Use a fence to straighten two opposing sides relative to the table surface, then the other two opposing sides. It wouldn't be perfect but it'd work for rough "rustic looking" furniture.
[–]thegenuineadvantage 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
When you're framing, you can zip it up straight by fastening one end and going from that end to the other with your screws/nails.
[–]Farty_McFartFart 45ポイント46ポイント47ポイント 2時間 前 (3子コメント)
Not a fan of shelving made from builder's grade lumber for anything but a garage or workshop also not a fan of stained builder's grade lumber. Also a pin system would've been better instead of fixed shelves to maximize storage space. Soemthing like this.
If you are going to take the time to build something like this, why skimp on the #1 material and use shitty framing boards? Even finished plywood would've looked 1000x better Especially because you can buy iron on edge banding.
I hope you at least took the time to sand off the grade stamps like on pic 3, 8, & 9.
Also, I hope you have this secured somehow since it is being used as a hand rail, that shit is a safety hazard.
Final point, if this is for you and you never plan on moving, great. But the poor quality and construction (not to mention the potential safety hazard) would be a negative to any potential home buyer and these would have to be ripped out.
[–]slimindie 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
That's the first thing I noticed, unfortunately. It shows the most on the common 1x3s, which for some reason are unusually shitty at the big orange store by me. Getting finish lumber is much more expensive (around 5x as much for the pine 1x3s) but it's so worth it if you want decent looking wood.
[–]HueyCobra 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
If I'm spending multiple hours on a project, the cost of the wood is generally trivial in comparison.
[–]tasmanian101 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yup huge safety issue. No handrail going along the stairs either. Would fail a home inspection and if anyone hurts them selves on these stairs, expect a full liability for all their medical bills, pain and suffering, and time lost from work.
The only mounting this thing seems to have is the back boards of the longer piece to the shorter piece. If someone falls into either side, I dont see this thing stoping someone from then falling onto the stairs.
And why 2" thick wood? It looks so much like garage shelves. And wastes so much thick.
[–]Titus142 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
Just some pointers for future endeavors. As a cabinet and furniture maker, don't think of built-ins or cabinets as framing with skins (2x structure covered in plywood) Plywood can be used for both the structure and the show face. Makes the whole thing a lot lighter and thinner. Manipulating it is not hard either. Even if you don't have a tablesaw you can cut very well with a circular saw and a straight edge. Then just nail/screw the boxes together.
I've always been sort of afraid of joining plywood edge to face. I imagine to do it at all you have to predrill everything and use glue on all the touching faces.
[–]jynnjynn 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
Completely ignoring the structural concerns everyone else has.. I think it would LOOK a lot better if she added some shelves like this where teh two meet up. It looks weird now. Either just straight shelves, if you dont have access to many tools (the blue line) or more aesthetically pleasing, rounded shelves (the pink line)
[–]Owan 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Not that I want to speak for OP, but I think the reason there isn't anything there is due to the air vent in the floor right in the corner there. Otherwise I definitely agree.
[–]jynnjynn 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 50分 前 (0子コメント)
Didn't notice the floor vent, but a single piece across the top and maybe one shelf in the middle somewhere wouldn't really obstruct the airflow
[–]MJZMan 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
2x4's? Are your books bound in cement?
[–]Dagur 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 3時間 前 (14子コメント)
ITT Harsh comments
[–]9551 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 55分 前 (0子コメント)
"Bro, someone is pointing out the danger we made to others and anyone that enters that house by way of not doing any basic research into replacing a necessary safety feature."
"Wooah, so harsh brah, why haters gotta hate?"
[–]togarnish[S] 16ポイント17ポイント18ポイント 2時間 前 (7子コメント)
I know right!!? Fuuuuck :/
[–]chiefspidey 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Everyone knows this isn't diy. It's professional diy humble brag.
[–]towerdweller 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 42分 前 (0子コメント)
Ha!
[–]purple_sage2 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 52分 前 (1子コメント)
I'm a woman do-it-yourselfer and I'm always glad to see other women building things. I love your shelves!!
[–]heartpunch 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 35分 前 (0子コメント)
Lousy design is lousy design. It doesn't get extra points for being made by a person with a particular gender.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 17分 前 (2子コメント)
Is that the same sad face you'll make when it falls on someone because you were in a rush to get /r/DIY upvotes rather than build something properly and safely, rather than the lego-block dangerous mess you made?
If/when that falls on a child, either visiting or relative, would you go so far as to make the full :( face when you visit them in hospital to see their crushed spine and blood-brusied brain?
Or I could be totally wrong and you could snap a quick photo of where you've anchored that to the wall and floor with "pretty long screws" (drilled in from where exactly?)
This whole thing isnt some narcissistic "look at me" thing, right?
[–]gamesbeawesome 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 13分 前 (1子コメント)
Or I could be totally wrong and you could snap a quick photo
She doesn't have to take any photos to prove you wrong.
[–]9551 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 12分 前 (0子コメント)
I'm not the one in here lying about how safe it is.
[–]rlemon 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 55分 前 (4子コメント)
I don't often browse the comment section of diy, is this normal behaviour from the sub? It is like YouTube spilled over in here.
[–]Salink 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
Things that are done well are generally praised. Anything that involves someone's safety is a big deal here though.
[–]pfods 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 28分 前 (2子コメント)
yes it is. the comments on this sub are generally a variation of "i could have done it better and you really suck" or "here is a minor complaint about the type of screw you used or the color you chose and therefor your entire build is wrong and terrible now"
also there's generally a whole lot of "i wouldn't like this in my house, therefor it's wrong and you shouldn't have done it"
[–]MongoAbides 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11分 前 (1子コメント)
All that aside, there's still some people with genuine quality concerns. What's the point of doing something if you don't do it right? If someone doesn't do something correctly, what's wrong with picking at it?
[–]pfods 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5分 前 (0子コメント)
what is doing it right? who are you to tell me that something i made for myself, that suits my needs, isn't done right? (barring serious building code violations, of course)
and the bigger question is, why do you feel the need to pick it apart because it doesn't meet with your own subjective ideas of what it should be? if i made a bookshelf and i really like it why do you feel the need to tell me the stain i used is wrong, or that i need to use different wood? i made it the way i wanted to make it and i enjoy it.
it's just rude, dude.
[–]icanrunfasterthanyou 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間 前 (1子コメント)
What color of wood stain is that? Walnut?
[–]Camberrrr 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11分 前 (0子コメント)
it's the Dulux - "Last Night's Curry & Guinness"
[–]UncleTrapspringer 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
DIY Do it your shelf
[–]pmps 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I don't like to be negative, but the stain color and the choice of wood is terrible.
Other than that the shelves didn't need to be that deep, and you probably would be better of just attaching shelves to the existing rail.
I hope you had fun and learned a lot in the process, that's what it counts anyways.
[–]iWish_is_taken 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Random strangers on TV always taught me - "If ya ain't got nothing good to say, shut the fuck up". So that's what I'm doing.
On the bright side, everyone's got to start DIY'ing somewhere. My first projects were also disgustingly horrible... I just didn't have the internet to display them on and allow the fully justified ridicule scare me away from every building anything again. Which is why the projects I build now are just revoltingly ugly.
[–]TheDragisal 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
Saw a beer bottle in the thumb. Thought I was looking at /r/thereifixedit. Looks great, but I have to say I share the concern about anchoring.
[–]Miataguy94 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
That has got to be one of the weridest floor vent locations I have ever seen.
[–]inb4zombies 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
It may not be you or your boyfriend, or even your kids, but someone is going to fall into the long or short bookcase eventually, and tumble down onto the stairs in a hail of books. Then a second or two later, the shelf that they didn't fall into will come down on top of them crushing them under two kinds of dead trees. This is a literal nightmare.
[–]9551 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 24分 前 (0子コメント)
Please stop hurting people's feelings.
[–]jimsmithkka 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 3時間 前 (9子コメント)
Looks good, you could probably secure it if you take out the bottom shelf and add blocking. to that framing, secured to the floor.
You will also want to add a handrail back to that stair if one wasn't in the plan already.
[–]togarnish[S] 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 2時間 前* (8子コメント)
Everything is screwed into the floor and to the wall. The building inspector mentioned that the stair way needs a railing to be up to code. The stairway is so narrow which is why we have not installed one.
Edit: spelling
[–]jimsmithkka 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
thats good then, couldn't tell from the photos about the securing to floor.
[–]9551 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6分 前 (0子コメント)
No proof yet that it is secured to anything?
I'll wait. Take your time.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 54分 前 (5子コメント)
show us a photo if where it has been secured to the wall. It wasn't prior to your varnishing. It should be easy to move a book two inches and snap a photo with the phone you have in your pocket right now.
[–]togarnish[S] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 36分 前 (4子コメント)
I would love to, but you'll probably say it's photo shopped :P
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 34分 前 (3子コメント)
No, I'd say thank you for extending a basic standard of care to the people in your life. You know, because I'm not some selfish child-adult who gets their back up when they hear criticism and react with "woe is me" lamenting and hasty lies about basic safety features that protect children and visitors to a home.
[–]pfods 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 25分 前 (2子コメント)
you sure sound like a selfish child-adult though.
[–]9551 -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 24分 前 (1子コメント)
Oh well, that surely cancels out the need to follow any basic building codes then.
[–]pfods 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21分 前 (0子コメント)
judging by your comment history i'm guessing you're a troll. carry on, friend.
[–]PM_YOUR_GOAT_PICS 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 4時間 前* (6子コメント)
What happened? Where'd it go? I'm missing out!!
Edit: it's working! I'm not missing out anymore!!
Also, this looks really great. I like the solid 2X4 look, but as u/deathputt4birdie pointed out, is it secure? Are those boxes drilled into the floor?
[–]togarnish[S] 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1時間 前 (4子コメント)
All of the boxes are drilled into the floor. I really like the rustic look of it, I wanted thick shelves. Thank you for the positive comment
[–]PM_YOUR_GOAT_PICS 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 52分 前 (0子コメント)
The kind of durability that will make it last forever... Very nice.
[+]9551 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 57分 前 (2子コメント)
Please show us any, any at all proof of this. Because I can tell you are lying.
[–]gamesbeawesome 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 31分 前 (1子コメント)
Why would she lie?
[–]9551 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 28分 前 (0子コメント)
Because she came here for praise and adulation, never thinking about anything but herself. In the absence of that she's pouting and telling lies so she can push the dissonance about failing in her task out of her head.
Basic human psychology.
[–]Leoxcr 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
Hows that working out for you?, you know... the goat pics?
[–]NewBabylonEra 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 3時間 前 (4子コメント)
r/shittydiy
[–]Sourcefour 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 3時間 前 (3子コメント)
This is really not constructive.
[–]jace100 31ポイント32ポイント33ポイント 2時間 前 (2子コメント)
Neither are those bookshelves.
[–]rogue780 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
I clicked the link, then clicked the button.
[–]Sourcefour 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
well played
[–]Magneticitist 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
only real downside i can think of aside from 'possible' structural issues, is that it makes it hard to see whats going on in the attic as u walk up the stairs. other than that, seems like a pretty good place for your bookshelf. i'd have probably left the rail intact on the other side though simply for a hand-guide.
[–]phliman79 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
In a couple years, a new owner will rip this out and say it was really wobbly and poorly built, and post the pictures of the new project to read it, where it will lead the front page.
[–]photographic_mammory 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
I think it was a good first attempt, OP. As others have said, having a piece of lumber like a 2x6 attached to the floor all the way across the floor and using that to anchor it would have been a good idea, but you live and learn.
I like the general look. You should think about applying a sealer of some kind - urethane, etc. The wood is going to gain/lose moisture in your house and bow or twist eventually as it shrinks/grows. A sealer will reduce that.
[–]PistolofPete 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 51分 前 (0子コメント)
Is that a St. Ambroise apricot?
[–]Crustal_Math 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 47分 前 (0子コメント)
What the hell, /r/DIY??
/u/Togarnish, it's pretty awesome. if YOU'RE happy with it and it's safe, then forget everyone being a dick ITT.
[–]Lemon-Harang-Pie 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間 前 (2子コメント)
I'm pretty sure it's not actually a bookshelf until there are actually books in it. Right now it's just kind of a shelf.
[–]dontgetaddicted 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 4時間 前 (1子コメント)
A shelf with intent.
[–]Lemon-Harang-Pie 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
In a tent? It's clearly in a house!
I'll see myself out now.
[–]SammyFuknSolja 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
I was going to joke about the craftsmanship but I saw that alcohol was a tool used. Cheers.
[–]Wanderer_Takezo 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
The cat looks pleased
[–]9551 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
The railing was VERY wobbly, the building inspector suggested we fix or replace the railing.
Can you film a video of when you call the building inspector back and have them check your new railing for being up to code? I promise it will get a ton of views/likes/retweets.
Spoiler: He didn't suggest replacing the former railing due to its lack of kitschy-cool value.
[–]tasmanian101 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
But its anchored down with all the weight of those books. Your telling me thats not safe?
[–]crashbangboomerang 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間 前 (4子コメント)
You gotta seal it with a clear coat
[–]togarnish[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2時間 前 (3子コメント)
It is all varnished
[–]crashbangboomerang 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間 前 (2子コメント)
Maybe a second or third coat?
[–]9551 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 49分 前 (1子コメント)
Good idea, should help with the structural integrity.
[–]crashbangboomerang 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 33分 前 (0子コメント)
So maybe a fourth or fifth coat?
[–]gunnybears 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
So is putting beer in your DIY photos a new thing? I'd be more impressed if someone put weed.
[–]Thanks-Alot-Lincoln 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 53分 前 (0子コメント)
Yes. Drinking and using power tools is super cool.
[–]FlatusGiganticus 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
That looks like a fun weekend project. Good job.
Thank you for wearing safety glasses and having your hair pulled up!
My only concern is the combination of alcohol, power tools, and an unprotected staircase. I guess it's my OSHA paranoia leaking out.
[–]42601 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
It's okay.
[–]Psandysdad 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
The stairway side looks hideous. Otherwise I agree with the cat. I'd like to stretch out on top of it.
[–]reddevved 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間 前 (5子コメント)
Why do you live in the attic
[–]42601 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 3時間 前 (2子コメント)
I live in a converted attic. I didn't even realize it was an attic at first.
I think it's a smart utilization of space.
It does get awfully hot though.
[–]reddevved 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間 前 (1子コメント)
My bedroom has a slanted wall, it gets really hot in here too
[–]42601 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
I have slanted walls and rails like OP. Maybe we all live in attics.
[–]sixeggs 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 5時間 前 (0子コメント)
OP is Bart's evil, monstrous twin from that Halloween episode. Or maybe they've had an attic conversion.
[–]theaxis12 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (3子コメント)
No books?! THIS GUYS A PHONY!
[–]togarnish[S] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
This girl. The longer side of the shelf is full of books
[–]theaxis12 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 40分 前 (1子コメント)
was hoping for book porn pic... and what girl?
[–]guzinya 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 19分 前 (0子コメント)
The girl you're calling a guy/phony.
[–]goodmorningfolks 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Nicely done. I'd recommend sinking the visible screws further into the wood, and then using a wood putty to fill in the holes. Once it dries, sand lightly, stain, and everything should look seamless!
[–]seagullswoop 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 42分 前 (0子コメント)
I have something nice to say so I'm going to say it.
[–]lonelyheartsclubband 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 41分 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah cool bookshelf but that flooring...ugh.
[–]langrisser 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 40分 前* (0子コメント)
When you made those boxes for the base frame how did you joint them? For something that is replacing a guard railing I'd hope they are at least doweled.
If you plan on keeping the shelves at the fixed height they are screwed in at then you should consider a dado joint. Investment in a router to do this kind of work is worthwhile if you want to keep on the DIY trail if it's only a one off project then I'd suggest looking for a hacker\maker space or a tool rental.
[–]guyuz 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 27分 前 (0子コメント)
Do It YourShelf.
[–]abg521 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 16分 前 (0子コメント)
What's a book?
[–]kronaz 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分 前 (0子コメント)
*Railing bookshelf. I came here hoping to see tiny rails on the edges of bookshelves so the books don't fall off.
[–]dthunterx 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3分 前 (0子コメント)
I'm just glad there was alcohol and some kind of handheld machinery in this post.
[–]mgs108tlou 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 5時間 前 (4子コメント)
Wow! Looks really great! One thing I would suggest for next time is to stain all the wood before hand. This way you can do a better job staining and not have to worry about ruining any surrounding surfaces!
[–]Scottishstalion 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 4時間 前 (3子コメント)
Standard process is to stain once the piece is assembled. This way you don't scratch any of your finish off when assembling.
source: worked for a cabinet builder
[–]luckynumberpi 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
Shouldn't the stain be sealed, or it will rub off on the books?
[–]Scottishstalion 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
not sure if it'll rub off, but it's always a good idea to seal it to avoid stains and make it easier to clean!
[–]BDBN-OMGDIP 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
Can confirm. Am architect.
[–]naturalsux 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
Genius! I love this idea!
[–]buick_speed -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 5時間 前 (2子コメント)
Awesome job. It very difficult to do that kind of work. Lots of folks get bogged down in details and planning. You should be very proud of yourself and kudos to you for putting it up on reddit for all to see. Also, what kind of beer is that?
[–]9551 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
Awesome job. It very difficult to do that kind of work. Lots of folks get bogged down in details and planning. You should be very proud of yourself and kudos to you for putting it up on reddit for all to see.
So its good because you think it was hard? Planning and detail is specifically what makes something good, rather than being below standards.
Are you perhaps sitting in a room lined with participation medals? i dont mean to attack you, but the things you say are totally illogical and are some bizarre newspeak that is impossible to parse.
"Its ok to call bad things bad and posting pictures of something bad does not make it good."
Is that a statement you can ever agree with?
[–]togarnish[S] 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
St ambroise apricot, delicious
[–]The_Kitten_Stimpy -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 57分 前 (0子コメント)
Don't listen to anyone that says anything other than that was an awesome job (except for the safety stuff but your BF laid that to rest).
Again, nice job.
[–]poutipoutine -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
St-Ambroise! Such a good beer
[–]De_Stekke -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
When I watched the vid I kept thinking "wow, this guy has a lot of ducks quacking right outside his house". When the vid was over, I realized those ducks were not quacking outside of your house.
Anyway, nice job.
[–]totally_rocks -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
http://i.imgur.com/QzbcNQA.jpg
My OCD is tingling.
[–]thatguywhoreddit 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
You did all that with only one beer!? would Have thought you'd need at least 30
[–]the_radioman_laughs -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Very nice! But no books? You forgot the final picture.
[–]strangefall -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Awesome. Nice job!
[–]eyepeeinsinks -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Beer - check
[–]bostero24 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 58分 前 (0子コメント)
At first i thought i was going to see a girl getting railed on a bookshelf. Then i saw it was just a DIY bookshelf railing.
[–]Camberrrr -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 12分 前 (0子コメント)
why on earth would you use wood that's designed to be hidden because it's of such shit quality?
also holy shit stained framing wood looks like fence panels, not to mention this thing having bigger panel gaps than a picket fence.
this isn't safe, looks like shit and is poorly made. but there are pets and alcohol in the pictures so no surprise it's upvoted so heavily.
[+][削除されました] 5時間 前 (8子コメント)
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[–]reddevved 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 5時間 前 (0子コメント)
Hey, we all got to start somewhere
[–]Covalency22 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 5時間 前 (1子コメント)
What does it matter that it was a woman? She did a better job than I've seen some dudes do with construction tools. Even still, it's their own home. I assume the husband helped as well.
No need to be a dick.
[–]InjusticeSystem -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
I sincerely doubt that. That DIY project she posted is fucking terrible.
Plus, stop assuming, she could be super lesbian status or single, why don't you stop being a twat?
[+]davai_dasvedanya スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 5時間 前 (3子コメント)
Those cuts, They also used terrible planks. Cat people bro.
[–]HeatAttack 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 4時間 前 (1子コメント)
Maybe they like the way those planks looked? Maybe rough cuts and boards go with their style. I do lots of work with reclaimed wood and people like the knots and dings and bee holes, and never want boards perfectly matched. Not ever project has to be done with top dollar lumber, with perfect matching grain and 0 knots.
[–]CHWK -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
heeee heeee ---- b holes
[–]Originalfrozenbanana 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 5時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, bro! Yeah! Fuck people that don't know how to do stuff but are learning! /s
[–]asteroidblue -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 5時間 前 (0子コメント)
Theres a troll in the dungeon!
[–]Butthatsmyusername -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
I really like this idea, because I read a lot.
Also, R.I.P. your inbox.
[+]StendGold スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 3時間 前* (2子コメント)
...
[–]daethcloc 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間 前 (1子コメント)
No, she won't have sex with you.
[–]StendGold -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 2時間 前* (0子コメント)
?
[–]9551 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 30分 前 (0子コメント)
Hey, scroll down to see OP lying about securing that to anything. Its two huge weights suspended over a stairwell because when you are in your 20's you are too cool to worry about anyone but yourself and your immediate wants.
Its the DIY eithos, "to hell with anyone else and any responsible way of planning a project, I'll make dangerous garbage and wait for the upvotes to flow in from coddled digital teenagers impressed that someone is allowed to use a drill"
[+]RENOxDECEPTION スコアが基準値未満のコメント-13ポイント-12ポイント-11ポイント 5時間 前 (0子コメント)
expected porn.
[–]krat0s77 -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
Nice carpet
π Rendered by PID 28043 on app-317 at 2015-07-22 23:02:09.238918+00:00 running b34b706 country code: JP.
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