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The Caucasian Model in Super Junior's "Devil" Video is only 14 (omonatheydidnt.livejournal.com)
falsabaianaNine Muses が 9時間 前 投稿
[–]IraninaGeniusf(x) 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 6時間 前 (0子コメント)
If the video would have been 19+ like they said she wouldn't have been allowed to see it.
[–]onthericeA Pink 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 8時間 前 (3子コメント)
Wait. So...the model playing the devil, the same girl Siwon pretend 'made out' with is 14? That's not a typo?
[–]GiddyRamblerGirl's Day 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
And a girl half his age too, must've been real awkward.
[–]sinjinnn -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
pretend 'made out'
[–]MarudemaruEXID [スコア非表示] 50分 前 (0子コメント)
Still kinda wrong
[–]madd4the24U-Kiss 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 8時間 前 (1子コメント)
Well... that's awkward. I wouldn't have guessed she was nearly that young, and I'm going to hope Suju didn't know either.
[–]RMarquesMamamoo 24ポイント25ポイント26ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
Apparently, they did. I don't have a source on me, but ELFs are saying they talked about how awkward her age made it all in a press interview. Supposedly, Leeteuk even added that her mom is his age.
[–]snowco 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 2時間 前 (2子コメント)
I saw a documentary (Girl Model) that follows a 13 year old model from Siberia. Gives you an idea of how this 14 year old ended up in Korea. Tldr of documentary: Modelling agents and ex models trawl Russia and neighboring countries for new models. The best go to Paris and New York, the rest go to Asia. And the models are always in debt and unsupervised. They constantly need jobs, any modelling job, to advance their career or to send money home. It was... kinda dark.
[–]_cornflakeOrange Caramel 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
Oh god, that's terrible.
[–]poryphriaMamamoo [スコア非表示] 14分 前 (0子コメント)
I remember that documentary...the agents were absolutely sick people, preying on girls and their poor families.
[–]zazubidif(x) 43ポイント44ポイント45ポイント 8時間 前 (25子コメント)
This sickens me to my stomach. A girl this young shouldn't be cast into these kinds of roles. Idek why they'd think to cast her.they could easily someone of age that is just as pretty if not prettier and endure less complications because she ain't a minor.
No idea why sm fucks up so hard all the time
[–]falsabaianaNine Muses[S] 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 8時間 前 (7子コメント)
She's not even old enough to drive in my country!
[–]zazubidif(x) 27ポイント28ポイント29ポイント 8時間 前 (6子コメント)
Is she legal to drive in any country?
[–]CommanderVinegar 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 6時間 前 (2子コメント)
I don't even know if she can legally work yet in my country.
[–]herere 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 6時間 前 (0子コメント)
The secret is many of these models aren't working legally :o
[–]gatchaman_kenMiss A 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
You don't have child actors and models in your country?
[–]IraninaGeniusf(x) 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 6時間 前 (0子コメント)
In many US states.
[–]indecisivemonkeySong Ji Eun 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間 前 (1子コメント)
In the State of Montana in the US a person can get their Learner's permit at 14 and a half, and be provisionally licensed at age 15.
[–]onschtroumpf [スコア非表示] 14分 前 (0子コメント)
they count 6 months after you turn 14?
[–]uh_oh_hotdogBig Byung 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
They're certainly not the first. It reminds me of Brittany Snow in this.
[+]sinjinnn スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1時間 前 (15子コメント)
there are literally tens of thousands of models under the age of 16. you must be living under a rock.
don't try to fuck someone out of a job just because you're "disgusted" for whatever ridiculous reasoning you have.
[–]pinkorri 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 1時間 前 (12子コメント)
They're not saying she shouldn't be a model? They're saying she shouldn't be casted in a role like that with a man twice her age. Don't act like there's nothing wrong with a video that shows a 29 year old man making out with a 14 year old.
[+]sinjinnn スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1時間 前 (11子コメント)
a modeling job is a modeling job. in the end, what is she doing? modeling.
she didn't make out with him and there's nothing wrong with working someone twice your age.
[–]machynaSistar 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1時間 前 (10子コメント)
...she DID make out with siwon. and she was playing a sexual temptress in the video and there were close up shots of her legs crossing and uncrossing.
[–]sinjinnn [スコア非表示] 57分 前 (9子コメント)
no she fucking didn't. don't blatantly lie to try and make your ridiculous point valid.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=child%20modeling&es_th=1
go get outraged about all of that, too. start a petition. go crazy.
[–]machynaSistar [スコア非表示] 49分 前 (8子コメント)
my 'ridiculous point' that it's inappropriate for a 14 year old girl to be sexualized and play a love interest for a group of men twice her age?
i like how your link shows me a bunch of fresh-faced children who actually look their age btw as if it's in any way comparable. maybe put your googling skills to good use and look up the issues of sexualization of eastern european girls and the human trafficking that goes on in these 'modeling agencies'?
[–]sinjinnn [スコア非表示] 39分 前 (7子コメント)
it's not inappropriate if it's a modeling job. that's the job. you signed the deal.
look up the issues of sexualization of eastern european girls and the human trafficking that goes on in these 'modeling agencies'
sucks, but has nothing to do with what we are talking about right now. you're outraged over nothing. it's sad.
[–]NewbieSoneSatbyeol [スコア非表示] 26分 前 (2子コメント)
You're just coming at this from very different points of view, and you're unwilling to consider how the other side thinks and feels about it. Their stance is that it's scummy to cast a 14 year old for this role; your stance is that everyone's acting in their right in principle. Their POV doesn't really read on yours (unless anyone is actually suggesting they shouldn't be able to hire a 14 year old model, which is a debate that could be had), except in the sense that it doesn't make sense to blame the girl for the casting choice, since she (presumably) just wants to get out there and gets a free pass on poor decisions for being a minor anyway.
The reason you're getting downvoted (and had some comments removed) is the unnecessary name-calling and provokation. Your talking points aren't bad per-se, but your delivery is beneath the venue.
-> Please everyone give a try to actually advancing the debate instead of getting into a shouting match.
[–]sinjinnn [スコア非表示] 14分 前 (1子コメント)
it isn't a debate. i'd get down-voted for disagreeing with the hivemind. doesn't matter how i approached it. anyways, modeling is modeling. from what we know, she wasn't forced into doing anything. if being "sexualized" was part of the job and she agreed to it, what's the problem here?
you don't see anybody here getting outraged over this shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwqy-rjbqsA
[–][削除されました] 35分 前 (3子コメント)
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[–]sinjinnn [スコア非表示] 30分 前 (0子コメント)
i'm neither. you're a creepy person that gets outraged over nothing.
you're the chick in this video. not a good look.
[–]NewbieSoneSatbyeol[M] [スコア非表示] 30分 前 (1子コメント)
[–]newspaper_nerd -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
Don't bother, kpop fans are the biggest white knights on the planet. It makes reading comments unbearable.
[+]sinjinnn スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
right? this sub is worse than netizenbuzz or whatever that garbage site is.
[–]wonderfullyedibleTymee 19ポイント20ポイント21ポイント 7時間 前 (0子コメント)
Wtf. SM is such a consistently sketchy place.
[–]herere 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 8時間 前 (1子コメント)
A real white devil. No wonder she was awkward.
Looking at her insta she must be one of those Russian models shipped to Eastern Asia to live in conditions like nugu idols.
[–]CronoDroidGirls' Generation 12ポイント13ポイント14ポイント 4時間 前 (0子コメント)
Damnit, now I realize that scene with Kyuhyun where she's crossing and uncrossing her legs is SO WRONG.
[–]sangtomsNine Muses 21ポイント22ポイント23ポイント 4時間 前* (6子コメント)
There are so many older models they could have used. This is messed up.. especially because of the lyrics and how they portray her.
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[–]sangtomsNine Muses 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
I'm guessing you haven't seen the mv or know the guys' ages. That doesn't make it any better. If she was an underaged sex worker, with your logic you'd be like "ITS HER JOB. ITS PERFECTLY FINE BRO" please for everyone's sake, stop talking.
[–]NewbieSoneSatbyeol[M] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間 前 (2子コメント)
[+]sinjinnn スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 1時間 前 (1子コメント)
don't be mean? do you see all of these people trying to fuck someone out of a job? and you're here talking to me?
come on now.
[–]NewbieSoneSatbyeol [スコア非表示] 54分 前 (0子コメント)
Just calm yer tits.
[–]brianna_rune_ 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 5時間 前 (2子コメント)
This is all kinds of wrong. Where is her parents?
[–]ekoh8873AOA 43ポイント44ポイント45ポイント 5時間 前 (1子コメント)
At the bank.
[–]brianna_rune_ 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 5時間 前 (0子コメント)
Probably XD. As an actor (mostly extra work), I can understand that getting roles is hard and that this might be her big break, but come on... Plus, while I didn't go in her social media, someone said that she posted pictures of herself in provocative clothes that someone had to buy for her (it was lingerie) , so I can tell that her parents were at least willing to let her do crazy stuff like this before she even got this opportunity.
[–]mikejonas [スコア非表示] 46分 前 (1子コメント)
So...she's "super junior," too.
[–]onschtroumpf [スコア非表示] 13分 前 (0子コメント)
SM's master plan coming to fruition
[–]nakednarkBESTie 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 2時間 前 (7子コメント)
This is pretty standard in the western world. Female models tend to start younger as they have a tendency to peak out by their mid twenties.
Wait what am I talking about, Korea does it too.
[–]machynaSistar 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間 前 (6子コメント)
she wasn't just modeling...she was the main actress. she kissed a suju member and they were singing inappropriate lyrics about her. a western music video would get tons of negative attention for this too. 14 is more than 10 years away from a woman in her mid twenties, there's no excuse to not find a woman of an appropriate age.
[–]gatchaman_kenMiss A 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1時間 前 (5子コメント)
She didn't kiss anybody. It's all about camera angles.
[–]machynaSistar [スコア非表示] 52分 前 (4子コメント)
faking the kiss doesn't make it any more okay that a minor was portrayed as an object of sexual desire for a group of men twice her age and it seriously concerns me that more than a few users think so
[–]kpgfistyEXID [スコア非表示] 45分 前 (1子コメント)
a minor was portrayed as an object of sexual desire for a group of men twice her age
Time to ban A-Pink Gfriend and a lot of other groups
[–]machynaSistar [スコア非表示] 40分 前 (0子コメント)
i don't follow those groups but i think it's fucked up if they film MVs with 30-40 year olds, is that true?
this case is still different though because this child is 14 years old and there's no way they'd use a korean actress of that age
[–]gatchaman_kenMiss A [スコア非表示] 15分 前 (1子コメント)
Nobody knew her age until people started digging into her social media. That tells me she did a good job playing the role. She and Gu Hara look the same age, but they are 10 years apart. Is this really worse than the company peddling idols that look 14 as sexual objects?
[–]machynaSistar [スコア非表示] 8分 前 (0子コメント)
the role didn't involve much actual acting though, she 'played the role well' because they dressed her and filmed her (i.e. filming her thighs) as if she were twice her age. looking mature doesn't mean she should be treated like an adult, that kind of thinking is really harmful to young women.
i do think 14 year old idols in the industry is extremely fucked up. i really wish idols couldn't debut until they were 18. but at the same time let's not pretend this is the same as dani's MV debut, this girl was definitely sexualized in a way that korean girls in kpop aren't.
[–]mokba [スコア非表示] 54分 前 (0子コメント)
Just some perspective:
[–]gatchaman_kenMiss A [スコア非表示] 52分 前 (0子コメント)
A whole lot of overreaction for a pretend kiss. Models start their careers early and most have a short shelf life.
[–]Phaedrus86Crayon Pop [スコア非表示] 31分 前 (1子コメント)
I hate to point out the obvious but kpop has always been full of teenagers. Sulli and Krystal debuted in f(x) when they were (gasp!) 14. 4minute Sohyun, Kara Jiyoung, and Miss A Suzy all debuted around the same age.
[–]tubollamasSNSD [スコア非表示] 20分 前 (0子コメント)
They weren't sexualised to the extremes the model was in the video, nor were they fake-kissing men twice their age.
[–]hapticmotionEXO 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yikes. While someone mentioned age of consent above is 14... it is still very awkward if she's doing overly sexual (though pretend things) to guys who could be her dad if her mom's Leeteuk's age. If the group was like early 20s then might not be as big of a creep factor.... D:
[–]IncredibleBlueEXO 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間 前 (3子コメント)
14 is 16 in korea, But does anyone know at what age teenagers is allowed to work in korea?
[–]SongMingHan 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
Sixteen. And depending on whether she was born before the Lunar new Year or after (which i dont know because i'm just stumbling into this discovery) she could be 15 in korean age.
[–]crayonflopNari ♥ [スコア非表示] 16分 前 (0子コメント)
That's not how it works
[–]gatchaman_kenMiss A -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
There are plenty of child actors in kdramas.
She's 14?? I would've guessed she's in her twenties. That's just pure exploitation. By her parents and the directors. Why is it so hard to get actresses their own age. So freaking awkward. This is so gross. Reminds me of Brooke Shields in Blue Lagoon at 14 years old.
[–]rivellanaVIXX [スコア非表示] 3分 前 (0子コメント)
Anyone have a link to the actual post by that girl saying that, and not just an image on a blog that may or may not have been photoshopped for shock value?
[–]lockonreaper -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 8時間 前 (0子コメント)
wow.. now thats a devil right there
[+]kpgfistyEXID スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 3時間 前 (5子コメント)
I don't see what's wrong with it.
Afaik age of consent is 14 in Korea.
[–]yeoldescreenname 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3時間 前 (1子コメント)
Oh, well then it's not creepy at all.
[–]BobfatterSNSD [スコア非表示] 55分 前 (0子コメント)
So many people on this sub fail to realize we are talking about a different culture here
[–]BleessangLeessang [スコア非表示] 39分 前 (1子コメント)
It's actually 13, as someone from England that amazes me, just shows how much cultures differ.
[–]onschtroumpf [スコア非表示] 10分 前 (0子コメント)
it was 14 in canada up to until a few years ago
[–]TaeTaeyeonWINNER -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1時間 前 (0子コメント)
This is the classic SM controversy...it always involves money and also usually involves abusing foreigners and leaves a dirty taste in your mouth. Then you watch the next SM release because they make awesome stuff and hate yourself for it.
[–]kasumagicDouble A [スコア非表示] 34分 前 (0子コメント)
I wouldn't mind it if SJ weren't all in their late 20s and early 30s. :| That just gives a bad vibe. SM, why?
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