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[–]yeahcapes 11ポイント12ポイント  (137子コメント)

It's so humane! I love it.

[–]penlies 118ポイント119ポイント  (136子コメント)

I bought humane traps once because my daughter made me. So in wanders an entire fucking family of mice, mom, dad, babies... all stuck in there. So now i have this trap and what the fuck do you do with it? Let them go a a few houses down so they come right back? No I ended up just throwing them in a bucket of water cause I couldn't figure out what to do with them.

TLTR; just kill them.

[–]ZeroXephon 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

I owned rats. Best way to put them down is to put them in bin with a smaller bin of dry ice with some water in it. Wait for the gas to build up and drop them in. Painless, least stressfull way to go. I miss my pet rat, dude was chill. For those wondering why I put him down, because he was riddled with cancer and was suffering.

[–]lazerfloyd 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah yes the Mousewitz approach. Did you transport them there on your model train set?

[–]Deep_Rights 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, but just one car attached. Smushed them all into the one car.

[–]elderosito 50ポイント51ポイント  (0子コメント)

Varmints gonna varmint. Spread disease, procreate, spread disease, procreate. Might as well. I would have put regular traps in the humane ones.

[–]Mobiasstriptease 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

I usually drive all of 5 minutes away from my house and let them go in some field somewhere away from houses.

[–]cady_heron[🍰] 22ポイント23ポイント  (106子コメント)

You can release them further away instead of killing them. If you're going to kill them, at least do it humanely.

[–]penlies 48ポイント49ポイント  (105子コメント)

They come back.

What is a humane way to kill something? Buy them a drink first?

[–]FraggleRoq 64ポイント65ポイント  (80子コメント)

Quickly, and without pain or distress.

[–]penlies 25ポイント26ポイント  (77子コメント)

First question is why? What difference does it make?

Second question, is there a way to die that isn't stressful? Maybe while getting a blow job or something but outside of that dieing pretty much sucks.

Third, how on earth can I gauge what would stress out a mouse? Is poison or a trap that snaps it's neck better or worse? How should I know that?

Is it the physical pain you are concerned with or the psychological? If psychological how do we know a mouse is self aware enough to have psychological torment or even understand pain the way a human does?

Now see how existential we have gotten over a fucking mouse, our time is better spent finding a cure to cancer and just killing the little fuckers.

[–]TrepanationBy45 93ポイント94ポイント  (2子コメント)

FINE, /u/penlies, JUST FUCKING STOMP THEM WITH YOUR LOAFERS.

[–]uv0001 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

That would probably be quick and painless for a mouse. Quite humane.

[–]MrFlabulous 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

OK, the two methods of culling vermin (poison vs trap):

Warfarin thins the blood. It's great for preventing stroke. And usually it wouldn't kill, except that rats and mice are constantly squeezing through tiny gaps, causing microscopic ruptures in the capillaries. Ordinarily not a problem, but if your blood doesn't clot it causes massive haemorrhage (sp?). Bleeding to death is actually a minimum stress way to die.

Neck snap (cervical dislocation) is a recognised humane method of killing in most of the world. Aside from a lot of reflex convulsing, twitching and so on death is very rapid indeed. Usually it's done in combination with concussion or stunning so that the mouse or rat is unconscious (to minimise stress, of course). Without the stunning there is a few seconds of pain, terror and distress.

On balance, warfarin poisoning is probably less stressful and more humane, essentially the animal will go into shock, then fall asleep, then die.

[–]fattycat23 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The thing about the traps that snap is that it'll just snap when it's triggered, doesn't matter what triggered it. So it's not very often that you'll get a clean snap on the neck or the head; leaving the rat to either starve out because it's leg is trapped, or bleed out internally from it snapping on it's body.

[–]Whazajottom 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks at username, Looks like i have found my mouse trap.

[–]penlies 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

That is actually helpful, appreciated.

[–]REALbwGHOST 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

You care?

I immediately regret replying to someone who thinks that mice don't experience pain

[–]phlamez92 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

1) Buy a gun

2) Buy lots of tannerite

3) Place mice in humane trap over lots of tannerite.

4) Stand at a safe distance.

5) Aim at tannerite

6) Send those rat bastards off with a bang.

[–]FraggleRoq 32ポイント33ポイント  (44子コメント)

First question is why? What difference does it make?

Would you rather be tourtured to death or die peacefully in your sleep? That's the difference.

Second question, is there a way to die that isn't stressful?

See option 2 above.

Third, how on earth can I gauge what would stress out a mouse?

Mice are mammals. It's a pretty safe assumption that mice will find certain situations stressful, as we would. Being set on fire, for example, would cause a mouse distress.

Is it the physical pain you are concerned with or the psychological?

Physical pain, of course.

Now see how existential we have gotten over a fucking mouse

You, got existential. Ain't no we about it.

[–]LolindirElros 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your time is better spent curing cancer? Yeah... I'll come back to you on that and see how you're doing.

[–]TheSlimyDog 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I told you that you could choose between dying immediately this moment without realizing it or having someone kidnap you and force you to drown, what would you choose?

[–]raminus 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Empathy, you dick.

[–]penlies -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Did the mouse display any empathy when he invaded my home, ate my food, and shit on my floor. If you came to my house and did that I'd throw your ass in a bucket too!

[–]SuitableDragonfly 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's not how empathy works.

[–]penlies 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am not a mouse, so no I won't empathize with one.

[–]DaneMac -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm sure dying in a massive panic while grasping for air and filling your lungs with water is a great way to go. /s

You could literally end them a million other ways that would be faster.

Or you know, if you're a nice person I guess you could drive out to a country road and leave them in the tall grass

[–]penlies -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Or I could throw them in a bucket. Do you only eat chickens that are given a anesthesia before they are killed?

[–]DaneMac 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't murder the chickens my self. So what, you toss em in a bucket, listen to their clawing and just move on? What the fuck is wrong with you. I've heard of people who do this shit, my great grandfather apparently did. Sick fucks. A rock to the head or just break the neck. But hey, I guess getting your hands dirty actually killing an animal instead of just tossing it in a barrel to fend for it's life and die is just too much right.

[–]penlies -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can't even follow that nonsense. Is English your first language? So because YOU don't kill the animal it's okay? Well congratulations you didn't kill the mice either. You rather I squish the mouse in my hands?... and im the sick fuck?

[–]QuickStopRandal 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

God forbid a fucking rat suffer.

When did we all become such fucking pussies that we give two fucks what some animal feels? What is wrong with everybody? Animals are not people, not even your fucking dog. Its affection for you is an inherited trait for survival, it's not real, stop trying to replace human affection with artificial facsimiles. /rant

[–]SuitableDragonfly 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some of us have (or do) own rats as pets. Would you care about your pet suffering? I bet you would. Having some empathy for animals is normal.

[–]NexusChummer 11ポイント12ポイント  (18子コメント)

What is a humane way to kill something?

Fast and painless instead of with minutes of panic and pain.

[–]penlies 14ポイント15ポイント  (17子コメント)

Oh so like a fucking mouse trap that snaps it's neck?! So maybe they should label THOSE humane instead of the ones that trap it thereby educing panic?

[–]Rickyjesus 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or even better, abandon existential concerns for mice entirely. Just kill the stupid little fuckers any way that's convenient.

[–]StakDoe 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not humane enough, you need to set the mouse family up with steady source of income and make sure the job comes with full benefits and a 401k. Make sure the rat hole is in a good school district and the crime is low on that end of town. Then maybe take them to Ikea so they can own full sets of furniture. How do you expect them to live without the babies having bunk beds that can't double as an office area. YOU MONSTER!

Fuck that, they eat shit and piss everywhere and I'm suppose to walk my happy ass a half mile away just so more can do the same thing. These people would probably cry over dead mosquitoes. Snap the neck and end their shit, their last thought will be "oh food" SNAP! If I was eat shitting and pissing in someone else's house I'd be okay with that conclusion. "Aw man large pizza with extra cheese and pepperoni" SNAP!

Its your house handle them how you want.

[–]TrepanationBy45 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

I've pretty much always had the same opinion as you, but nobody likes to hear it.

[–]ChurM8 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think that everyone else's reaction to his/your opinion isn't because of the opinion itself but more the way he went about explaining it..

[–]nicotron 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would rather get trapped somewhere with a bit of panic and be released in a field than get my neck snapped...

[–]TrepanationBy45 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pest and disease control inherently doesn't factor in whether the creature wants to live or not.

[–]penlies -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well to everyone else's credit, I'm a dick about it.

[–]NexusChummer 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If most people would use "humane" traps only to kill the animals slower than via neck snap, then yes. But normal people buy humane traps to not kill the mouse instead of killing it slower. A lot of people also forget about the trap and the animals die even more painfully, but that's another topic.

[–]done_holding_back 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

They're labeled humane on the assumption that you aren't going to use their captivity to be inhumane. If you're throwing them into a bucket of water, then yes, snapping their neck is more humane. The product is only as inhumane as you make it.

Is this not all common sense?

[–]Rickyjesus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're labeled humane so they can charge more for the traps.

[–]penlies -5ポイント-4ポイント  (5子コメント)

So removing them from the only home they have ever known, throwing them into the wild away from shelter and food allowing them to be hunted and then eaten alive by birds and cats is more humane than my quick bucket?

[–]KaBar42 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

To the people downvoting him, he's got a point. House mice aren't designed to live in the wild. They're designed to survive in houses. Hence House mice.

It'd be like aliens capturing a Human and then releasing him on Mars. 'Cause, ya know! Now he can live free and die wild!

If they're lucky, they'll be dead for the feeding session.

[–]zeress1 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

A horrifying natural death by predation seems to be preferable, judging by the down votes you received. Ignorance is indeed bliss.

[–]Reggae4Triceratops 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I caught a mouse while wearing gloves and crushed him lol, about as instant as you can get

[–]lankly 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

They don't come back if you take them far enough away.

[–]TheAntiPedantic 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Get a cat. It's the circle of life, and even if the cat is (like mine) generally too slow and doesn't kill them when it catches them, they decide it's easier to hit up other houses.

[–]SuitableDragonfly 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Unless it's like my cat, who's only interested in them up until the point when they stop moving, at which point he just leaves them strewn around, half-dead and unable to move. That's no good.

[–]TheAntiPedantic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think most well-fed cats do this. It's a present or to teach you how to hunt, too.

I like it when my cat acts as a deterrent. And when he eats bugs. I like that.

[–]uv0001 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why nothing beats the classic neck-snapping mouse trap that's been used for years.

[–]T-Luv 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Just get a few snakes and put them in the bucket with the mice. Snakes eat the mice, problem solved, no more mice.

[–]Joe64x 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then find an ingenious snake trap...

[–]TrepanationBy45 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Perhaps a bucket of some sort...

[–]batmansavestheday 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It might not be safe for the snake.

[–]hax_wut 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

and now you have a snake problem...

[–]T-Luv 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

A mongoose or two will solve that issue.

[–]hax_wut 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

but what solves the mongoose problem?

[–]T-Luv 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

A stork could eat it no problem. And when there's no more mongoose to eat, it will fly away to find another source of food.

[–]Shermanderland -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

No all the other animal lovers in this thread would think it's unacceptable to kill them that way. If they see the snake, or if the snake bites them it might cause them distress. Too inhumane boycott snakes.

[–]jordanlund 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We moved into a new house and caught 3 the first day. Took them away from the cats (unharmed) and relocated them to a churchyard about 4 miles away.

I'm sure something ate them soon after.

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[–]SuitableDragonfly 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Actually, my cat brought in a couple severly-injured-looking mice and my friend found and located some local organization that was willing to take them in. So other options exist.

[–]penlies -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is fucking retarded.

[–]streetlightin 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

what is wrong with people today?

they are mice ffs.

am i on crazy pills or something?

I am now out of spite voting GOP, denouncing all social activism. this shit has to stop.

[–]DreadSilver 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's reddit. Where cats and dogs are more important than the lives of people. Now mice too!

[–]-mbartlett -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sure with your fully sized human brain you might've had the idea of releasing them further away than a few houses down. You killed them because you couldn't be bothered to be humane.