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[–]Britches_and_Hose 54ポイント55ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd imagine the mouse could chew through the thin plastic in no time, making this trap useless unless you're watching it all the time.

[–]yetiman223 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can confirm. I own pet rats and I put a frozen bottle of water in their cage to cool em down. They just chew through it and get their cage all soaked.

Rodents. Idiots the lot of em.

[–]An_Image_Of_Mohammed 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rodents. Idiots the lot of em.

Bow down low to our rodent overlords!!!

[–]probably2high 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's what makes it so humane.

[–]Burekas[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Source

[–]yeahcapes 5ポイント6ポイント  (77子コメント)

It's so humane! I love it.

[–]penlies 64ポイント65ポイント  (76子コメント)

I bought humane traps once because my daughter made me. So in wanders an entire fucking family of mice, mom, dad, babies... all stuck in there. So now i have this trap and what the fuck do you do with it? Let them go a a few houses down so they come right back? No I ended up just throwing them in a bucket of water cause I couldn't figure out what to do with them.

TLTR; just kill them.

[–]elderosito 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Varmints gonna varmint. Spread disease, procreate, spread disease, procreate. Might as well. I would have put regular traps in the humane ones.

[–]Mobiasstriptease 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I usually drive all of 5 minutes away from my house and let them go in some field somewhere away from houses.

[–]cady_heron[🍰] 9ポイント10ポイント  (61子コメント)

You can release them further away instead of killing them. If you're going to kill them, at least do it humanely.

[–]penlies 18ポイント19ポイント  (60子コメント)

They come back.

What is a humane way to kill something? Buy them a drink first?

[–]FraggleRoq 35ポイント36ポイント  (44子コメント)

Quickly, and without pain or distress.

[–]penlies 9ポイント10ポイント  (43子コメント)

First question is why? What difference does it make?

Second question, is there a way to die that isn't stressful? Maybe while getting a blow job or something but outside of that dieing pretty much sucks.

Third, how on earth can I gauge what would stress out a mouse? Is poison or a trap that snaps it's neck better or worse? How should I know that?

Is it the physical pain you are concerned with or the psychological? If psychological how do we know a mouse is self aware enough to have psychological torment or even understand pain the way a human does?

Now see how existential we have gotten over a fucking mouse, our time is better spent finding a cure to cancer and just killing the little fuckers.

[–]TrepanationBy45 55ポイント56ポイント  (0子コメント)

FINE, /u/penlies, JUST FUCKING STOMP THEM WITH YOUR LOAFERS.

[–]FraggleRoq 22ポイント23ポイント  (29子コメント)

First question is why? What difference does it make?

Would you rather be tourtured to death or die peacefully in your sleep? That's the difference.

Second question, is there a way to die that isn't stressful?

See option 2 above.

Third, how on earth can I gauge what would stress out a mouse?

Mice are mammals. It's a pretty safe assumption that mice will find certain situations stressful, as we would. Being set on fire, for example, would cause a mouse distress.

Is it the physical pain you are concerned with or the psychological?

Physical pain, of course.

Now see how existential we have gotten over a fucking mouse

You, got existential. Ain't no we about it.

[–]penlies -5ポイント-4ポイント  (28子コメント)

Either you get existential about it or you miss the substance of your argument. If I set a robot on fire would it be distressed? Is an embryo distressed when aborted? It's a mammal and it is a alive. If I measured all the signs that would indicate distress I am sure an embryo displays it while being aborted. So why are we okay with it. Could it be cognitive ability plays a role? Can we apply that same argument to a mouse?

Comparing me to a mouse is irrelevant, I can perceive a reality a mouse cannot. If you want to make moral judgements you should have a basis for them other than "it's cute."

[–]Crislips 13ポイント14ポイント  (15子コメント)

I feel like you're purposely ignoring the point. Both you and a mouse can experience pain. It is pretty much universally agreed that it is better not to experience pain than to experience pain. Killing a mouse in a way that does not cause it pain is more humane because experiencing uncontrollable pain is not pleasant. It doesn't matter if I'm about to die, I'd rather not experience pain, and I'd imagine the mouse probably feels the same way. If you try to argue that than you're just insane.

[–]Chillpadde 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

Comparing any adult animal to a fetus is even more pointless. Yes, the body of a fetus reacts when harmed, but there is no consciousness to be aware of that.

The basis for the moral judgement is pretty simple; don't cause pain if you don't have to. Do you not agree that causing pain, when you don't benefit in any way from it, is wrong?

[–]MrFlabulous 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

OK, the two methods of culling vermin (poison vs trap):

Warfarin thins the blood. It's great for preventing stroke. And usually it wouldn't kill, except that rats and mice are constantly squeezing through tiny gaps, causing microscopic ruptures in the capillaries. Ordinarily not a problem, but if your blood doesn't clot it causes massive haemorrhage (sp?). Bleeding to death is actually a minimum stress way to die.

Neck snap (cervical dislocation) is a recognised humane method of killing in most of the world. Aside from a lot of reflex convulsing, twitching and so on death is very rapid indeed. Usually it's done in combination with concussion or stunning so that the mouse or rat is unconscious (to minimise stress, of course). Without the stunning there is a few seconds of pain, terror and distress.

On balance, warfarin poisoning is probably less stressful and more humane, essentially the animal will go into shock, then fall asleep, then die.

[–]TheSlimyDog 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I told you that you could choose between dying immediately this moment without realizing it or having someone kidnap you and force you to drown, what would you choose?

[–]penlies 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would choose to not be a mouse.

[–]AddictedToFishing -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I hope you drown some day. Cause one day you will die, and what difference does it make how you die. But hey, I hope you get a blowjob from Pamela Anderson just before you drown so it'll be less stressful.

[–]triedtostayaway 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn dude, all this hate over mice.

[–]HUMOROUSGOAT 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://i.imgur.com/L8gpVvo.jpg

[–]NexusChummer 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

What is a humane way to kill something?

Fast and painless instead of with minutes of panic and pain.

[–]penlies 10ポイント11ポイント  (9子コメント)

Oh so like a fucking mouse trap that snaps it's neck?! So maybe they should label THOSE humane instead of the ones that trap it thereby educing panic?

[–]StakDoe 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not humane enough, you need to set the mouse family up with steady source of income and make sure the job comes with full benefits and a 401k. Make sure the rat hole is in a good school district and the crime is low on that end of town. Then maybe take them to Ikea so they can own full sets of furniture. How do you expect them to live without the babies having bunk beds that can't double as an office area. YOU MONSTER!

Fuck that, they eat shit and piss everywhere and I'm suppose to walk my happy ass a half mile away just so more can do the same thing. These people would probably cry over dead mosquitoes. Snap the neck and end their shit, their last thought will be "oh food" SNAP! If I was eat shitting and pissing in someone else's house I'd be okay with that conclusion. "Aw man large pizza with extra cheese and pepperoni" SNAP!

Its your house handle them how you want.

[–]NexusChummer 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

If most people would use "humane" traps only to kill the animals slower than via neck snap, then yes. But normal people buy humane traps to not kill the mouse instead of killing it slower. A lot of people also forget about the trap and the animals die even more painfully, but that's another topic.

[–]TrepanationBy45 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I've pretty much always had the same opinion as you, but nobody likes to hear it.

[–]penlies -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well to everyone else's credit, I'm a dick about it.

[–]nicotron -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would rather get trapped somewhere with a bit of panic and be released in a field than get my neck snapped...

[–]TrepanationBy45 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pest and disease control inherently doesn't factor in whether the creature wants to live or not.

[–]done_holding_back 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

They're labeled humane on the assumption that you aren't going to use their captivity to be inhumane. If you're throwing them into a bucket of water, then yes, snapping their neck is more humane. The product is only as inhumane as you make it.

Is this not all common sense?

[–]penlies -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

So removing them from the only home they have ever known, throwing them into the wild away from shelter and food allowing them to be hunted and then eaten alive by birds and cats is more humane than my quick bucket?

[–]Rickyjesus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or even better, abandon existential concerns for mice entirely. Just kill the stupid little fuckers any way that's convenient.

[–]lankly 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

They don't come back if you take them far enough away.

[–]penlies -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then those guys bring them back when they catch them?

[–]T-Luv 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Just get a few snakes and put them in the bucket with the mice. Snakes eat the mice, problem solved, no more mice.

[–]batmansavestheday 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It might not be safe for the snake.

[–]Joe64x 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then find an ingenious snake trap...

[–]TrepanationBy45 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Perhaps a bucket of some sort...

[–]Shermanderland -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No all the other animal lovers in this thread would think it's unacceptable to kill them that way. If they see the snake, or if the snake bites them it might cause them distress. Too inhumane boycott snakes.

[–]ntheg111 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

YOU GOT ANY CHLOROFORM?

[–]jordanlund 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We moved into a new house and caught 3 the first day. Took them away from the cats (unharmed) and relocated them to a churchyard about 4 miles away.

I'm sure something ate them soon after.

[–]ZeroXephon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I owned rats. Best way to put them down is to put them in bin with a smaller bin of dry ice with some water in it. Wait for the gas to build up and drop them in. Painless, least stressfull way to go. I miss my pet rat, dude was chill. For those wondering why I put him down, because he was riddled with cancer and was suffering.

[–]TheAntiPedantic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get a cat. It's the circle of life, and even if the cat is (like mine) generally too slow and doesn't kill them when it catches them, they decide it's easier to hit up other houses.

[–]-mbartlett 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sure with your fully sized human brain you might've had the idea of releasing them further away than a few houses down. You killed them because you couldn't be bothered to be humane.

[–]aguyandhiscomputer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought it was going to be instant regret for the OP and we'd see a GIF of the mouse getting crushed and guts flying everywhere. Was pleasantly surprised.

[–]maggymooo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my, I just noticed the sidebar image. Ha!

[–]MrFlabulous 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

*rat