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[–]MasherusPrime 97ポイント98ポイント  (83子コメント)

Being sex positive in the very beginning is the only way to extract the number out of a slut.

[–]Super_Positive 78ポイント79ポイント  (78子コメント)

I agree -

You: "Don't worry I'm pretty open with sexuality in general, I'm not going to judge you on how many partners you've had before me"

Her: "Ummm, I've been with about 20 guys."

You: "Cool. Have your stuff gone in the next few hours."

[–]avocadosandham 69ポイント70ポイント  (68子コメント)

Lol I feel like 20 is pretty low for any post-college girl in America.

[–]Heizenbrg 52ポイント53ポイント  (22子コメント)

it really is ridiculously high, you recognize the ones who fucked hard through college, they behave like they're some kind of sexual goddesses, getting better and better with more dick exp

[–]awalt_cupcake 52ポイント53ポイント  (20子コメント)

I hooked up with a girl who told me after "she really loved sex". My response "I do too." To which she asked "why do I have sex with every guy I want to be friends with?" I didn't respond but in my head I'm thinking cause you're a dumb slut.

As experienced as she claimed she was a fuck pillow. Didn't even try to stimulate me. She was a bona-fide 9 but the worst fuck I have ever had. I got more enthusiasm from a fatty 6 and a 7 LTR than this dumbass.

Slutty does not mean good. Slutty just means spoiled and over used.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKill_Your_Ego 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've found that the sluts are more disengaged during sex. I can use them harder but on the spectrum between wild ravishing girl scratching my back up and fucking for a few hours and basically a sex doll that I just use it's the really high n number girls who are like dolls.

The n~5 ones still have enthusiasm if I fuck them right. The n~20 ones have quite a bit less.

[–]blacwidonsfw 27ポイント28ポイント  (17子コメント)

Fatties can never be above A 4

[–]awalt_cupcake 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

I dunno man she gave me a boner

[–]Toucan_Play_At_This 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sounds pretty desperate. I've done butterfaces but a fatty no thanks they don't register on the scale for me.

[–]cashmunnymillionaire 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm the opposite, to each his own.

[–]Toucan_Play_At_This 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't understand this mentality at all. Aren't fatties naturally low value in TRP philosophy?

[–]ActuallyARaptor 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

maybe she wasn't full fatty but fat enough to warrant a 6

[–]RP15 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm partial to binary...1 or 0

[–]RecQuery 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only after leaving your country and going somewhere without an obesity epidemic do you realise how fat most women are.

Even women you would have previously considered thin look chubby at best.

[–]MrChadThundercock 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

In the US ~60% of chicks are fatties. That means that a 6 could easily be fat.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKill_Your_Ego 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you put the women on a more objective scale it doesn't mean that she could be a 6. It just means that in America 60% of the women are 4's or below. And what? Like 30% are obese. So they don't even count. They aren't even women. This throws the balance off for the male/female ratio, IMHO. Especially if you won't fuck a fat girl. Suddenly 60% of the women are gone.

And then all of these women target the same top 20% of us men. It's pathetic getting online dating messages from fat women and then comparing them to the women you're already fucking. Fat women are delusional.

[–]MrChadThundercock 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I see people say that betas aren't even noticed by women. They just don't exist as real people. When you say that fat women don't count as women you seem to act just like a woman.

We also say that a primary difference between men and women is the ability to use logic. Using logic, like the men we claim to be, it seems obvious that a 1-10 scale is inclusive of all women and where they fit into the scale. This means the bottom 1-10% are 1s, 11-20% are 2s, etc until you get to the top 91-100% being the 10s. If you want to use your feelz to dismiss half of the population of women, then I can't stop you, but that's fucking retarded.

I noticed that you claimed that you had a more 'objective' scale because you used imaginary rules of who counts and who doesn't that are not objective at all, but I'm not sure if you were being sarcastic or using 'objective' in a subjective way kind of like the way people use literally when they mean metaphorically.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKill_Your_Ego 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to use a scale like you are describing but was talked into using a logarithmic scale instead. Still after spending time in a culture where fat women are rare and then coming back to fat land and seeing these monstrous whales walking around like this is somehow normal?

I don't think that there has to be 10% of the female population that are 10's. Rather more like 2% are HB10s. Statistically there are more non fat women of dating age in the Philippines total then the same in America.

And yeah fat women are like betas. You can use them for emotional support and free stuff as well.

[–]Heizenbrg 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is your point of view though, their's is overblown and most likely think it's the best sex you've ever had.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

sometimes you can get lucky and find a girl who hasn't discovered the CC yet and has a count of maybe 1 or 2. Usually due to multi year LTR.

but once they hit #4 they become aware of the CC and soon they'll be up to 20, 40, to sky's the limit.

Then sex becomes boring to them and want to settle with a beta bux whom they may fuck once every 3 months.

[–]HellbillyDeluxe 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Wow. I guess I did not realize how much things had changed in America. Anything more than 5 including me for a woman post college (25-35) would give me that terrible gut sensation.

[–]avocadosandham 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Online dating. Tinder being the worst. Girls can easily have a different partner every night of the week if they want. A good-looking, successful partner at that.

Combine that with the constantly reinforced notion that girls are told by society that half the reason for college is "experimenting", and yeah it adds up quick.

[–]Yangel 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

They'll get a beta to pay for dinner before ditching him for tinder dick. Shit is fucked up.

[–]avocadosandham 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup I called a girl out on this the other night. Her response "Well I'm here aren't I?"

Yes... yes you are. I ain't complaining.

[–]199639 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

Most girls I know who use tinder have around 3 current guys they are fucking, which lasts for a couple weeks each guy. They're always rotating new guys in and out but each week they generally fuck their set of guys each a different night.

It doesn't bother me enough not to fuck these girls myself, even right after they tell me about their tinder exploits.

[–]HellbillyDeluxe 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I say fuck away, but never see them as anything beyond that.

[–]199639 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Absolutely. I have always been anti-marriage, childfree, MGTOW, whatever you want to call it, but this present reality confirms it. There is absolutely no way in hell someone can go from fucking three new guys every few weeks for years to being content with complete monogomy for a life time. Not gonna happen. That unhappiness will build into resentment against you and will poison the relationship.

[–]HellbillyDeluxe 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would not want to have to come up in today's world for young men. Don't get me wrong there where whores and feminists when I was in HS and College. There are still plenty of whores (some married) and feminists around my social sphere today. But to me the difference between 15-20 years ago and today is that the whores were not celebrated and the culture was not so anti men/anti tradition as it is today. I feel a bit ridiculous even saying that because I am just in my thirties. I grew up in the country so that likely heavily skewed my view of the world so who knows, but either way I look at it it seemed easier to navigate the social waters before tinder and SJW's became the norm.

[–]rKremlin -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Monogamy isn't the norm for humans anyway. It just isn't.

[–]Super_Positive 13ポイント14ポイント  (25子コメント)

Wishful thinking on my part I guess. 2 or 3 would be my personal maximum.

[–]avocadosandham 40ポイント41ポイント  (21子コメント)

Uh.. good luck. Christian mingle maybe?

[–]Super_Positive 15ポイント16ポイント  (14子コメント)

Yeah, I didn't say it was realistic. Torn on whether to abandon all hope of a low count girl and a proper relationship, or day game girls at volunteering and the like to find a 'high quality' girl.

[–]mojo_juju 36ポイント37ポイント  (2子コメント)

Abandon hope, all ye who enter

[–]allcapsisyelling 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

...would make a good tramp stamp.

[–]through_a_ways 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Abandon all hope, but taketh all herp

[–]avocadosandham 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well you gotta have a realistic view of the world, or try to at least. It's not always comforting, but, to me, that's what TRP is all about: Seeing the world for what it is, and taking advantage of it.

A 2-3 partner "high quality girl" will have been in a couple long term relationships. She will be of extremely high value to all guys (assuming she is attractive). She will be in a relationship more often than she is single. That's a hard target to hit, but that doesn't mean you can't aim for it. Just don't get too caught up on it IMO. You may even find one, and be so impressed by her good girl qualities and low partner count that you idolize her and commit to a LTR. Then she realizes you worship her eventually, and bam, one girl's night out and you realize AWALT. Or maybe you get married, have kids, and live happily ever after because you are able to constantly appear of great value to her.

that probably wasn't very helpful, but what I'm trying to say is: Don't let that goal determine if you find happiness in life or not.

[–]Lashlarue123 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Get caught up in it, but simply dont discard your dignity and mission that is not the girl. Remember at all times your greatest power is to walk away. I spun plates for less than a year til I dropped em for an almost unicorn whom I value simply because I'm content with one girl at the moment. And I'm aware of my proven ability to both generate more interest and eventually discover another high quality girl should I become discontented with her actions. My game was tip top and getting better after ~200 approaches plus monk mode ethos when I met said quality girl, any problems and I welcome the opportunity to go back to the well.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

constantly appear of great value to her.

I get sick of seeing this on RP.

I know this is probably being a little picky, but: Don't "appear" to be of high value. Be so obviously high value that she cannot help but recognize it.

[–]HellbillyDeluxe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is how I found my LTR. We were volunteering with a local charity, there are high quality women out there from good families but you ain't going to find them at the Thundercock Saloon at 3 in the morning, on Tinder, or any other natural slut habitat. But keep in mind partner number is just one way of identifying a "slut", watch a woman's actions that is where you can truly asses her sluttiness. Like my Pa always told me, "Don't take any wooden nickels".

[–]199639 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It depends on how old you are. Personally I don't find it wise because even if you find one of these unicorns she will probably run off in 10 years with half your money for the rest of your life. Then you're right back where you started but minus half your paychecks. Good luck gaming girls being a broke ass 40 year old.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, I'm 41, mostly broke, and I get more ass than a toilet seat.

[–]RealRational 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Get a library card and hang out there. If you live near a major populous area you can do meetups. Just google it, there are multiple companies that do it. They have them for singles and for couples and just for everyone.

But the library thing is my favorite. I won't even plate sluts. But I have gotten a few good one's from the library. Might even keep one or two of them around for a while.

[–]hvymtlgmr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you considered adoption?

[–]CrustyGrundle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its absolutely possible. Upbringing is huge. My girlfriend was raised in a strict Catholic family and she had only slept with one other guy when I met her. My good friend is about to get married to a really attractive girl who was also raised in a strict conservative Christian household, and he took her virginity.

These girls don't dress slutty or show much, and they are pretty reserved. They do things like volunteering, going to church, and other things like that. I met my girlfriend as she was helping on her uncle's food truck for no pay. Don't lose hope.

[–]rKremlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can find plenty of low count girls. They are all 15 though.

[–]HeinousFu_kery 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Those girls' numbers are always 0, no matter what their number really is.

[–]ThrowyMcGruder 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've only ever been with one die-hard religious girl and she was just about the sluttiest girl I've ever met.

Blow job within an hour of meeting her, the first girl I ever tried anal with (I was 17), hand jobs left, right, and centre, titty jobs galore.

She loved nothing more than a mouthful of cock.

However, vaginal penetration was off limits and she stuck to that.

I never actually had vaginal sex with her. Came on her face, on her tits, on and up her ass, for about a year.

She absolutely got married as a virgin in her mind, but I bet she never told her husband anything more than that.

[–]HeinousFu_kery 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like most things, the minute you clearly define "bad" (no PIV sex before marriage) then everything else is "not-bad" which rapidly becomes "good".

This is a very human trait, whether you're dealing with religious dogma or political contributions.

[–]Soarinc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes that's why a thin white membrane exists because not all women are liars. :-)

[–]rKremlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uh no. If you think there's less of anything unpleasant on that site, you're dreaming.

[–]bluedrygrass -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Impossible. Simply impossible for any girl remotely attractive older than 18.

[–]bigern77 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not true at all. Unlikely but not impossible

[–]partybro69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hate to break it to ya but it's totally possible. You would be surprised

[–]1wakethfkupneo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're supposed to multiply it by 3

[–]babydocnorman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah. If a girl in her mid 20s has been sexually active since 16 with let's assume 3 new partners a year, that's about 30 right there. Very realistic considering women are offered dick every day.

[–]evoblade 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well after you multiply by 2.2 to convert from metric...

[–]JollyO 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I saw some graph illustrating divorce rates based on number of partners. The top of the graph was 11+. Most people have been with fewer than 7.

[–]avocadosandham 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd like to see how that study was performed. I'd also like to see that study performed in ten years. The tinder effect is real man.

[–]1too_long_didnt_read 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not ANY, but certainly those with high SMV. Those bitches are going to hit the wall HARD though.

[–]real-boethius 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Those bitches are going to hit the wall HARD though.

Wishful thinking. Many of them have a nice beta-assisted soft landing.

[–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many of them have a nice beta soft landing.

The FDA approval of birth control in 1960 has created the casual sexual market place. The highly classified operation AF/BB has been initiated. However, there's a giant moat , a beta vacuum if you will, between females and the cock carousel. In an effort to negotiate desire, beta's piled themselves in the giant hole like zombies in World War Z to cushion the fall. Betas compete for casual sex by laying down hand in hand on the jungle floor, ready to catch females who lose their grip when leaping to the next branch. Through positive reinforcement (claiming promiscuity would trickle down), women felt that they could hump Douchebag Steve, get tossed off the ride, and land gracefully on the Beta Tempur-Pedic.

[–]1too_long_didnt_read 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

They'll certainly lock down a beta provider, but they will also yearn for their past as a hot girl with high SMV. Nothing infuriates them more than watching someone hotter and younger than them getting the attention and cock that used to be theirs.

That's why their relationship with beta providers is always sexless and full of resentment on their part. There is a reason that beta providers are viewed so pitifully, and it's not just the used and abused dried up pussy stained with alpha cum that they get to pity fuck once a year on their birthdays.

[–]BrunoOh 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

No. This will just spike their ASD for the next guy. Be nice and pass on the non-judgemental attitude.

You: "Hey I like you and I love spending time with you but I'm not really looking for a relationship right now" guess I need to fine tune my slutdar better.

[–]bluedrygrass 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tell her you need to find yourself, and you can't give her what you don't own.

Hamster fusion.

[–]Super_Positive 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably the best idea - also doesn't piss her off or make her vengeful either.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

You: "Don't worry I'm pretty open with sexuality in general, I'm not going to judge you on how many partners you've had before me"

Her: "Ummm, I've been with about 20 guys."

You: "Cool, I'll be your 21"

Face the reality. in the sexual field your #4 #8 will be her #20 #40. Just don't ask her to move in or hit up for a LTR.

[–]Super_Positive 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

A high partner count isn't disgusting (within reason), it just instantly disqualifies you from being anything other than a fuckbuddy.

[–]through_a_ways 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

A high partner count isn't disgusting (within reason), it just instantly disqualifies you from being anything other than a fuckbuddy.

Honestly, it's pretty gross to think about, and the risk of STDs goes up dramatically.

If the average girl has a 20% chance of being positive for herpes, what chance does a 25+ y.o. girl with 20+ sexual partners taking birth control have?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemiology_of_herpes_simplex#United_States

Also keep in mind that those stats are from almost a decade ago, so everything is actually higher than listed.

[–]rafay_M 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It also gets rid of the slut-shield. It does make her more likely to sleep with you. Though admittedly slightly

[–]TheBadGod 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Before I discovered TRP, I was living TRP. I stopped asking for or even caring about the Number. I even stopped counting my own.

Is getting the Number something folks still do? It's highly reminiscent of my early days.

Hell, before I LTR'd, when girls asked how many I'd been with, I'd say, "I don't know."

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

...Dude. If you genuinely only regard her as some slut, why do you care AT ALL how many guys she's fucked? Completely irrelevant unless you're considering an LTR.

[–]slothsenpai 74ポイント75ポイント  (41子コメント)

The real kick in the balls is that whilst betas are effectively being wiped from the gene-pool (or casual sex pool rather since they're gonna be supplicating cucks), they're also being told that exhibiting sexual desire is seen as vile, objectifying, predatory as well where it even extends to admiring CGI game characters. Ironic how they're against slut-shaming yet virgin shame betas, treat them like dirt if they dare express sexual interest or shame alphas as womanising assholes for not committing.

When I'd finally got into lifting, swallowing the red pill and had my first sexual successes, I was still the sweet boy at heart. I was initially never properly the whole "asshole" type to women but I definitely had to diverge from the bullshit feminist principle of not objectifying women or liking them for their bodies. Once you've gained a high enough value (or at least physically attractive), women love being noticed for their looks and bodies, where I'd always point out how hot it was that their tits were soaked in the rain or something along the lines.

Feminism is sex positive for women but extremely sex demonizing for men (good luck if you're a complete, utter beta).

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorCisWhiteMaelstrom[S] 43ポイント44ポイント  (17子コメント)

They virgin shame AND tell boys that it's okay to be a virgin. To his face they'll shame him, in writing they'll say it's okay. What this does is make him slightly comfortable in his incel state and keep him afraid to speak out. You don't speak out unless you're very uncomfortable so it's really a very good silencing tactic.

At red pill, we've taken a different approach where we just try to help him anonymously and do what we can to make the men successful. We have some men openly identifying anonymously online as low value incels which allows them to get the help they need. A man telling feminists that he's low value is like telling wolves that you're an injured deer. A man telling red pill the same thing is like a patient telling a doctor his symptoms.

[–]Baylien2 14ポイント15ポイント  (16子コメント)

This is why TRP is a force of good, if you subscribe to morality. If it weren't for this place imparting knowledge onto the men here, we would have more Elliot Rogers type characters running around out in the world.

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorCisWhiteMaelstrom[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (15子コメント)

I really don't care at all if some psycho wants to shoot up a sorority house. Deaths from mass shootings are basically negligible just like violence against women. It just doesn't seem like a problem worth thinking about to me. What bothers me is the countless men who go through life unhappy, dissatisfied, and unfulfilled. That's a serious problem that I'm out to solve and solving that problem is what makes RP a force for good.

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, exactly. A big part of RP is a rejection of the slave morality that permeates western culture.

The "noble man" creates his own morality based on his own spontaneous experience of "Good." I have experienced that good here. This place has improved my life like nothing else ever has. My personal conception of morality is about spreading the "good" that was given to me.

[–]Snivellious 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Somehow I've never run into a summary of master/slave morality. That's really useful stuff.

The consequence/intention dichotomy (or personal responsibility/social pressures, or independence/collaboration, or any of 100 other formulations) is at the heart of American social conflicts at the moment. We frame a huge number of different debates between independence and collaborative good, and I never realized why.

My takeaway for today: collective morality is for people who can't cope with individual morality.

[–]autoNFA 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

He killed more men than women.

[–]Elodrian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not like either are in short supply. Look, wait a sec:
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There, back up to baseline population. Like it never happened.

[–]through_a_ways -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those men were also Asian, lol. And that half Asian dude was also extremely racist towards minorities.

The amount of willful ignorance regarding that case was so thick you could cut it with a knife.

[–]kyro5411 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

That's pretty cold-hearted to not give a fuck about mass-shootings.

It's an ironic twist the public doesn't understand that TRP helps men to not be like Elliott Rodgers.

[–]rKremlin 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

Women don't give one fuck that tons of men die every year for nothing. I think it just means more men are over playing cpt save a ho. As it should be. A minimum of 50% of men have no purpose in supporting society. There's just nothing in it for them. That's bad for society and a backlash is coming. It won't be pretty. But this is what happens when you undermine the foundation of society.

[–]RP15 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Straight white men in particular have no incentive to continue to serve the society that they built as it demonizes them at every turn and actively promotes those who lead the charge.

[–]rKremlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Logic says more and more of those men will disengage over time. Who will take their place? No one from what I can see. I can envision a million or more men dropping off the grid and living in vans and tents over the next decade. I don't think society is ready for it.

[–]mr_one_liner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Big difference between not serving society and advocating (or not caring about) murder.

[–]kyro5411 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with you that women think weak men are disposable.

However, I see nothing wrong about caring for our fellow men. I would help my brothers and male friends out if they were in need and weren't taking advantage of me.

Just because "women don't give one fuck" about us, doesn't mean we should hold each other down.

[–]rKremlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not about men. The concept was that elliot Rodgers would kill women. And that wouldn't shock me. That might not be the reality of it though.

[–]through_a_ways 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women don't give one fuck that tons of men die every year for nothing.

"Women are wonderful"

Men < Women < Children < Puppies

[–]mr_one_liner -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry, no, I'm not going to advocate being okay with murder.

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorCisWhiteMaelstrom[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that's perfectly fine because here at the red pill, we're not trying to sell you any path to moral righteousness. You can decide murder's wrong, I can keep cooking women and eating them, and at the end of the day we can still be friends!

[–]1exit_sandman 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ironic how they're against slut-shaming yet virgin shame betas, treat them like dirt if they dare express sexual interest or shame alphas as womanising assholes for not committing.

Yeah, that's the funny thing about feminism - it's about women always getting what they want and not letting men deprive her of that.

  • she sleeps around and gets shamed? Men are at fault because of the patriarchy.
  • she sleeps around, just wants to have fun, but men fall for her? Men are at fault because they're so immature and clingy.
  • she sleeps around with bad boys, but falls for them, and gets treated badly/dumped? Men are at fault because they're so immature and self-centered and won't change for her.
  • she sleeps around with an actually quality man but he decides against her? Men are at fault because they won't commit.

Always remember - whenever your priorities don't align with hers, you are the one who is at fault.

[–]ITranscendRaceHombre 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is one of the most hilarious things about feminism to me. Under the guise of "empowering" women to be "strong" and "independent", it removes all agency from them. It treats them like children while simultaneously brainwashing them into thinking they are as just capable or even better than men. Another perfect example for your list:

  • she is intoxicated and has sex with an equally drunk man. She has regrets and claimed she was raped. Man is at fault because she was too inebriated to consent.

[–]through_a_ways 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It treats them like children while simultaneously brainwashing them into thinking they are as just capable or even better than men.

Feminism doesn't treat women like children, people treat women like children.

This is because they're physically neotenous.

Google "women are wonderful"

Feminism is just a logical extension of male emotion. It wasn't "designed" from the ground up, but rather uses already inherent phenomena to get something wanted. Kind of like a gravity slingshot around Jupiter.

[–]HeinousFu_kery 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's called relativism and is the underpinning of how modern marketing keeps women of all ages furiously spending someone else's money.

[–]Endorsed ContributorCopperFox3c 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

NEVER listen to what a woman says. Watch what she does.

That's rule #1.

[–]tuxedoburrito 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since I started implementing this, my success has gone way up.

Cute girl at work, I say, "can I get some fries with that shake?"

She laughs. Says "stop it!" And touches my arm.

So I keep flirting with objectifying comments. I'm even honest about it. Talking about someone else and that someone else asks what I'm talking about, "oh we're just objectifying you. You're a babe." They look surprised at how forward I am, but even if they tell me to stop they keep smiling and coming up to me to talk.

Or also the whole "look I'm not going to fuck tonight"

I didn't say anything about that. And yeah, you are. Almost every time.

[–]through_a_ways 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Replace "woman" with "person", really

[–]kogsworth 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, sexualizing women is just fine if you're of high enough value. If you're too low though, you're seen as the most vile and disgusting thing ever. "that beta thinks that he can have me? Just the fact that he thinks that lowers my own value"

[–]rafay_M 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sometimes the red pill makes me seethe with anger.

I wish more were aware. I really do.

[–]zymurgy39 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not the red pill that has you seething with anger. It is the truth you are seeing underneath all the lies we've been sold.

[–]through_a_ways 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the hypocrisy that makes people mad.

Men aren't mad that women have it easier and are given an unfair advantage in nearly every facet of life.

Men are mad that despite these advantages, people still want women to have more.

[–]tuxedoburrito 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just a stage. I'm in that stage as well. Anger is good. Means you're a man, means you're alive and it means you're thinking.

[–]doveenigma13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some men just can't bear it.

[–]iamanalterror 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aye. Same here. But don't be angry at TRP. Be mad at women, and yourself, but realise it's also a first phase on your way to improving yourself.

These things take time, reading, self-introspection, and practice.

The way I see it, after some time, practice, and success, we're going to look back and realise how much all this pays off. You see it all the time in TRP success stories.

And those denying TRP just makes it better, because it's more women to fuck, and more BPs to take women away from.

[–]ShitfacedBatman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd always point out how hot it was that their tits were soaked in the rain or something along the lines

That's like an "agree & amplify" tactic towards sex-positivity. Like saying, "Yep, I'm sex positive right now," and go for kino.

[–]erplaint 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feminism is sex positive for women but extremely sex demonizing for men

And this is the big problem. Sex positivity is not the devil. Just think about the fact that women of today will do far more kinky stuff compared to women of say 50 years ago. It's only a problem if you don't apply it evenly. Same reason why I don't share what appears to be the prevalent view on TRP about porn. Porn, in fact, allowed men to go on strike and retreat from society, it was a major step in showing how pussy should not be put on a pedestal and there's a reason why feminists hate it: it breaks their control over male sexuality.
Sex positivity in and of itself is not bad for men. It only becomes harmful when it's applied in a lopsided manner like it is in today's society.

[–]epicureanmanslut 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Isn't the whole concept of alpha fucks beta bucks the idea that women rather settle down with a beta then chad? Pretty sure this means Chad will be wiped from the gene pool. If you consider the way the economy is going (towards nerdier professions like technology), then this is a good thing. Ltr are not bad things. Also, in my experience, more explicitly feminist girls put out earlier and are freakier in bed.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Uhh, the Chad types won't be wiped from the gene pool- it's just that the Beta guys will continue raising Chad's kids.

[–]epicureanmanslut 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you really believe that? You realize you can test fathers.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also realize that unless the "father" has specific reason to suspect that he is not, in fact, the biological father, he will generally never get a paternity test. Why would he?

[–]bigern77 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Chad's sperm will get blocked by the birth control, more often than not, because he is fucking her during the younger, hotter years when women are typically on birth control. The sperm of the (greater) betaboy she allowed to marry her gets through to fertilize. (Cuckolding, while an intrigue, doesn't really add up to big numbers.) Mostly it's lesser betas and omegas who will be wiped from the gene pool. Probably a lot of you nerds and rejects reading this, lol. Just kidding.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're assuming she isn't fucking Chad after she marries Benny Beta. Believe me, she's still fucking Chad.

[–]rKremlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If anything it means that chads will father the first borns. Women's end game is false paternity. It always has been.

[–]slothsenpai 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yep, look at dem reeping in all dese rewards http://embed.gyazo.com/7918191c07cad987a5e7da5d76ba5116.png

[–]popthatpill 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

It makes her sad.

Just not, you know, sad enough to fuck a beta.

[–]Lohengren 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

ugh I hope that guy doesn't shoot up a school or something

[–]popthatpill 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If he does, the press will reliably inform us that the guy was an MRA.

[–]iamanalterror 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After seeing Betas say this many times on the internet (and having said it myself once or twice back in the day), I always wondered how to go about being a sexist asshole, and also why to be a sexist asshole.

That was back when I thought men and women were alike.

[–]Sir_Shitlord_focker 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, fantastic post, it's exactly my story, I was one of these feminist enlisted betas pushing feminism to get laid. Literally. Took me years to figure out I never would.

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 41ポイント42ポイント  (3子コメント)

All right fuckers sit down. Im Professor LubeOil and Applied Slut Economics 103B is in session. You've taken CisWhiteMalestorm's class Theoretical Slut Economics 103A, so today im going to teach you how to apply this information.

The first thing you need to understand is that Betas are the most valuable resource on the planet, they generate almost all of its value. The next thing you need to understand is betas readily give up their value in the presence of sluts.

The value of a slut isn't her vagina. A slut vagina in and of itself is of low value because more often then not its attached to an emotionaly damaged woman. Slut vagina derives its value from its ability to extract value from betas.

Night clubs make money by making betas pay for the opportunity of being around slut vagina. By becoming a broker of slut vagina you can tax betas on their homework, money, valye and time.

Hey bro I know this amazing girl from the Nursing School down the street. Hey bro can I see your Constitutional Law outline that you spent 50 hours on?

[–]blacwidonsfw 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

One time I was at a bar with 2 girl friends (one was a plate) and was meeting up with some work friends. As the girls were at the bar getting a drink my work friend sees me and says hi and stuff. We are standing there and he notices my 2 friends getting a drink and makes a comment about how hot the women are here. I just smile and nod. 5 min later the girls turn around and hand me a drink and introduce themselves to my friend without me saying a word. My work friend just gives me a dumfounded look and I just smile and nod. The guy went from being my boss to being my bitch in 5 mins and I didn't even get him laid. The attention was enough to excite him...

[–]Endorsed Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

You need to aim higher then $15 drinks. Multimillion dollar contracts are sealed with beta thirst.

[–]Special Olympianmakethemsayayy 31ポイント32ポイント  (4子コメント)

Great post. It's so fucking true, you see this videos of pathetic guys on youtube propagating feminism, and you know they're thinking this will get them laid.

And it's like: this was NEVER about you. You really think these girls will be selfless and fuck YOU? Lol yeah right. This is absolutely so she can fuck Chad and not get shamed for hopping from Chad to Chad.

[–]MattyAnon 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is absolutely so she can fuck Chad and not get shamed for hopping from Chad to Chad.

It's about fucking Chad1, dumped by Chad1, fucking Chad2, dumped by Chad2, then being supported loved and adored by Billy Beta, who will raise ChadJunior before being divorceraped so she can live happily ever after with Chad3*.

*12 cats and a box of wine.

[–]rebuildingMyself 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If she doesn't grab ChadX's seed before marrying Billy Beta, she can always shame Billy into allowing her to name her firstborn after her best lay.

[–]iamanalterror 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel bad for those cats man. They can't even understand what humans are saying, yet will probably still have to listen to these post-wall womens' bullshit, assuming there isn't a BB around.

[–]babydocnorman 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Great topic and insightful post.

Beta males are the lifeblood of any society. A society’s treatment of its Betas determines its productivity.

Prior to the pill and modern feminism, assortive mating was the norm. Men and women matched up according to SMV, got married, had kids and stayed married. Good deal for Betas and society because they got lifetime pussy from a woman who hadn’t ridden the cock carousel and children whom he could reasonably expect to be his. For this deal, Betas had a legitimate incentive to be productive to support their families and contribute to society.

It was also a good long-term deal for women because they got lifetime provisioning and companionship, even after they hit the wall. Being petulant children, however, they had to fuck it all up because they didn’t want to lock down their pussies during their prime SMV years.

Enter a few decades of the pill and you-go-gurrll feminism, and we have the current situation where women would rather douche with HCl than lock down with a beta during her prime years.

That’s what feminists mean by the “patriarachy”: assortive mating and Marriage 1.0 reinforced by law and societal pressures. So by buying into and white-knighting for modern feminism, chump-ass Beta male feminists are actually working to tear down a system that used to work for them.

Modern womyn still need Betas though, to fix their laptops, activate their smartphones, install and fix shit, move boxes, etc. Women being women, rather than create a legitimate system of incentives to motivate Betas to do this stuff for them, they resort to sexual trickery and con them into doing them favors without putting out.

The end result of this: Betas withdraw from society, play Xbox 24/7, shoot shit up, etc.

Not a good time to be a Beta. Team Red Pill is the only way to go.

[–]rKremlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As the betas go, so goes society. They are the backbone of society. Chads sure aren't going to do it. And women can't do it. Betas can bring society down by withdrawing. With marriage being the first to go. As they should.

[–]MattyAnon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like girls never spotted the compromise, and believed they could get an always have alpha cock, beta bucks, divorcerape and all this was their birthright.

Men opt out, and they revert to shaming men for saying fuck that for a game of monkeys ("grow up men, and follow the feminine imperative to your destruction!")

[–]XCowboyLowkesx 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

From now on I'm definitely gonna use 'Benny' as the poster child name of the beta just like chad for the alpha.

[–]afroose 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a real post. you'll never see a slut fuck down if she does it's a " rape ".

[–]3 Endorsed ContributorBurgundyCarpet 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Such a good post. There are a few lines in here that are fucking golden.

It's a perfect system. They bait them in with sex and shut em out with morals.

YUP. The amazing thing about this trick is that it often takes decades to come to fruition. By the time the Betas are being shamed about their nice-guy tactics, they have forgotten why they adopted those tactics in the first place. They have forgotten that it's not actually a normal human behavior to be submissive to everyone all the time, and that they only started doing it because they thought it would be an effective strategy to get laid.

By pretending that their nice-guy ways are innate and unchangeable (when in reality they are artificial and socially-conditioned), the Betas avoid the one thing they can never face: accountability for their own actions.

In reality, being a nice-guy Beta Faggot is a CHOICE that men are TRICKED INTO MAKING at a very young age by EVERYONE... their parents, their friends, the media. It is fucking evil TBH.

By the time they realize they're playing a losing strategy, their artificially-constructed nice-guy persona has become so deeply engrained in their minds that they FORGET IT'S AN ARTIFICIAL CONSTRUCT. They confuse the map for the territory.... and the only map they've got to go on is really fucking shitty.

Rather than provide a gynocentric business model about investing in women and letting them choose, we've told men how to invest in themselves and take what they want.

Exactly. On a fundamental level, BP vs. RP is about where you put your energy. BPers invest that energy into women, and when they get dumped they suffer the sunk cost fallacy and then.... they do it again. And again.

RP is about investing your energy into yourself. It's like a stock buy-back program. We are buying back all the stock we unknowingly sold to the people around us and investing that shit back into ourselves. Then WE reap the dividends.

[–]Mans_Right_To_Choose 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

They bait them in with sex and shut em out with morals.

The whole post is good but this line rang true with me especially. Its a sexy beckoning finger finished up with a chastity belt. But it appears that chastity belt's lock opens for any dude's key but yours, poor beta. What sanctimonious, hypocritical whores to scream Slut with every fiber of their being and every stitch of their skirt but say Prude with their lips. Oh well. That's just the pill gagging me a little on the way down. Moving on.

[–]Derbi50 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

One RPer put it the most succinct way I ever saw it.

"We told the betas promiscuity would trickle down!" (Insert picture of feminists laughing).

Sex positive is trickle down economics in the SMP. It has the same effect that Reaganomics had in the economy.

All of the wealth/pussy is accumulated at the top of the food chain. There is more sex going on, but it's all going to the top men at the expense of the bottom 90% of men.

Time was a woman would maybe have a couple of boyfriends and then find some guy with a reasonable alpha/beta mixture then marry and have kids.

Now that the stigma of promiscuity is gone these girls ride that CC never settling down with that 6/10 they could reasonably bond with.

Now these are the facts. You can't change the system so the only answer is to get into that top 10% of men or the top 1% of the economy and it will work in your favor.

Of course that's easier said than done but if you don't make it into the top 1% of wealth holders or the top 10% of the SMP you will be nothing.

[–]JumpXVI 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rather than provide a gynocentric business model about investing in women and letting them choose, we've told men how to invest in themselves and take what they want.

Here's the thing about the shitty businesss model this feminist imperative is.

Women think they're this ATM of the most coveted, moist vagina a man could want. And they are an ATM alright, but not in the way they think.

See, women don't want a men who want them to write any sort of check so men can get something of value from them. A woman wants a very high value man who strides up to her and confidently swipes his hard platinum card down her slot, and for deposits only.

Why deposits only? Because the man is the one bringing value to the transaction. He is the prize, and a woman wants to feeeeeel lucky that such a valuable man would choose her of all ATMs to deposit his immense value into.

(ps thanks for the "Benjamin Beta" reference /u/CisWhiteMaelstrom lol)

[–]Endorsed ContributorDenswend 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

"It’s a fact, I mused to myself, that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization. Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women, others with none. It’s what’s known as ” the law of the market”. In an economic system where unfair dismissal is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their place. In a sexual system where adultery is prohibited, every person more or less manages to find their bed mate. In a totally liberal economic system certain people accumulate considerable fortunes; others stagnate in unemployment and misery. In a totally liberal sexual system certain people have a varied and exciting erotic life; others are reduced to masturbation and solitude"

Michel Houellebecq, Extension du domaine de la lutte

"It is interesting to note that the “sexual revolution” was sometimes portrayed as a communal utopia, whereas in fact it was simply another stage in the historical rise of individualism. As the lovely word “household” suggests, the couple and the family would be the last bastion of primitive communism in liberal society. The sexual revolution was to destroy these intermediary communities, the last to separate the individual from the market. The destruction continues to this day."

Michel Houellebecq, Les Particules élémentaires


The funny thing is that the same socialists who defend regulation in the economic market because of "muh inequality" defend the laissez-faire in the sexual market regardless of the inequality it generates.


*Oh, and before you go all "not all socialists like that", please see this image.We can argue that all masculine leftists like Che, Fidel, Stalin, Lenin (notice a pattern here?) were pretty much patriarchal and authoritative despite the beta-ish writings of Marx and Engels. But we don't have any masculinity in leftism anymore.

Now, one of the most important mistakes you can make while in a dialogue with a woman is take her own words/ideas out of context and apply them universally - or if you were to generalize the principle behind her ideas to make it more coherent. When a woman says "equality" chances are she's not saying it to protect actual "equality" but the woman herself - or her gender in general. (Strange that they have this hivemind when they themselves cannot cooperate in any meaningful way). Women use ideas to benefit themselves, and men use ideas to benefit those ideas - a crude approximation, certainly not absolute, but a useful heuristic in a man-woman confrontations. Say "women are not slots you put commitment in and get sex" and get lauded. Say "men are not slots you put in sex and get commitment" and you're only marginally better than Hitler. We even had that fucking thread on 2X to show us.

Female Imperative owes no obligation to anything but itself. It is the embodiment of Briffault's Law. It is something that permeates every ideology that is swayed or spearheaded by women and creatures who have characteristics of women. That is why GamerGate and Sad/RabidPuppies or what have you exist. It is much like a parasite which infects the host, and then devours it completely. A banal example - Videogames becomes Videogames (Female Friendly) becomes Female Friendly. I believe there was a good post on Female Imperative a while back. We at the Dork Enlightenment call it "Conquest's Second Law" - any organization not explicitly right wing will eventually become left wing. Apply this principle to feminism and you will see that any organization not explicitly anti-feminism will eventually become feminist. Lacking a cultural barrier for the Cultural AIDS, it becomes a suitable host. A common argument against TRP isn't the ideas, but the way these ideas are presented. The way our ideas are presented is the cultural barrier to SJW degenerates - people who make the "tone it down a bit" argument know exactly that once you police the tone you police the content.

So once you realize that, and I mean really realize that - not just say "okay, this is true" then go back to believing what they tell you much like a creationist who concedes to facts of evolution but just sheepishly goes back to creationism, you will be even more cynical of women in general. For a good measure.

Everything they do, and I do mean everything related to politics is only to the extent of that they themselves can benefit from - either materially or psychologically by masturbating over their altruism for poor and the oppressed - and altruism that is nothing more than talk, mind you.

Then the reason women support socialism because "muh inequality" and then proceed to support liberalisation of sexual market despite "muh inequality" is clear.

They're in it for themselves. They don't care for you.

TRP is amoral because it makes you see that. Logical conclusion - perhaps even my personal opinion, one which TRP does not explicitly share (as it is amoral), of any morally sane person is that you do not have moral obligation to the people who don't have moral obligation to you.

Take from that what you will.

[–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

A common argument against TRP isn't the ideas, but the way these ideas are presented. The way our ideas are presented is the cultural barrier to SJW degenerates - people who make the "tone it down a bit" argument know exactly that once you police the tone you police the content.

Our tough love and direct and harsh tone is the 'holy water' waterfall over our entrance. SJW's are the vampires. "Could you lower the flow rate of the waterfall just a bit so more of us (vampires) could fit in? TRP: no, fuck off. Go suck value out of someone else. Go back to your coffin.

[–]rKremlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you ever want to see r melt down, suggest sexual socialism sometime. Watch the bans roll in. Women have no concept for something like this. All they can come up with is it's rape. You point out that no, its like paying taxes; still rape. Women would never consider sex with a male they felt wasn't advantageous to themselves.

[–]Drogoe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is very true and very salient. It should be pointed out that's there's just enough trickle down pussy (a very small amount really) for betas from sex positivity to keep the illusion from being exposed. If betas never got laid from sluts, the illusion could not be maintained. Lower betas and omegas are completely fucked though--or won't be, to be more accurate.

[–]MattyAnon 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great article about yet another beta/white-knight pussy trap.

Sex positivity does a lot for Alpha males though. No more are women saying "no sex before marriage"

[–]BarbellFlies 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

An order of magnitude is ten times.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Way to hit me in the head... I feel like I just got punched by the wrathful fist of reality.

[–]popthatpill 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

1) Upvoted just based on the title, the content didn't disappoint

2) This is the sort of quality post that used to be commonplace here a year ago before this place got overrun with shitposting

3) My rule of thumb on this is: the sluttier a woman is, the LESS likely she is to have sex with a beta (or "fuck down", or whatever you want to call it): a woman who can't control her promiscuity probably can't control her hypergamy, either.

Anyway, great post.

[–]RPGoon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That third rule deserves its own post.

[–]Luckyluke23 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The truth that betas never see is that sluts never fuck down. Sluts can get a man a full order of magnitude more attractive than a good girl, they just don't get his commitment. It's like how a man can orbit a girl who's an order of magnitude hotter than he can fuck; he just won't get sex.

This is something I have been having a hard time grappling with...

at one point i was like like... " fuck those bitches. They are ugly has hell. they should just be thankful i'm looking at them"

what i didn't realize is, if I'm not not in tip top shape, I'm getting nothing. Why? because girls get sex offers all day every day. I'm just ONE OF MANY GUYS, If I'm not in the top % I'll have an uphill battle. Why not make it easy for myself.

he can negotiate desire.

david d Angelo - attraction is not a choice

[–]1favours_of_the_moon 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

It might be a woman's right not to make good on her deal but it's a man's right not to accept a deal with a shady mobster. Women have always had a monopoly on deciding when sex happens and feminism is nothing more than an abuse of that.

That's true. They can slut it up all they want, but that doesn't mean we HAVE to give them commitment.

They've legislated that we have to pay for THEIR decisions (often times even if we're not the father) and now they're trying to legislate that we HAVE to like them even if they're fatties. But most of us are smart enough not even to play their game.

[–]tuxedoburrito 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was on askmen and they were asking what we are and aren't attracted to. How important is fitness.

Almost every answer was about the girls weight and her fitness level. One guy felt shame explaining that he thought he was shallow for not liking what's on the inside; and I explained what's on the inside is portrayed on the outside. Her insecurity, lack of discipline, lack of self control and motivation have all led to her weight and exercise problem (with some medical exceptions but those are fucking rare).

The backlash I got from some women who troll askmen was intense but the men all supported me. Truth hurts sweetheart, if you don't like it, fucking start working out and dieting and you will probably see why it works.

[–]dbtng 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

That was well written, brother. I've been spending time in twoXX and mensrights, getting lots of downvotes. Its amazing how many people just don't get it. Simple economics explains things well.

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorCisWhiteMaelstrom[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

TwoX wants you to believe that morals, loyalty, and compassion run the SMP. TRP makes a turn and says that enticement does. At every single action there has to be a reason. The friendzone exists because men expect loyalty and compassion. They don't realize that from an enticement point of view, the woman's got everything they have to offer and sex isn't enticed.

[–]jeffwingersballs 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

What gets you down voted on mensrights?

[–]2FatStig 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Mensrights mostly tries to apply the feminist bullshit dogma to men. It fails to realize that men and women are not and never will be the same sans some sort of supreme technological intervention.

[–]jeffwingersballs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, right! That makes sense. I've seen some of that. Sort of a tit for tat mentality and a lot of losing frame as an everyday function of men's rights.

[–]MorCowbell 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh god, female-male singularity. Fuckin kill me before this happens.

[–]rKremlin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you drop knowledge at MR you will hear lots of "get that sexist shit out of here your making us look bad." I even get trolled by feminists on there sometimes. If she pays a little lip service while Trojan horsing, the up votes roll in.

[–]fortifiedoranges 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Calling Bruce Jenner a tranny.

[–]SilentDeadlyKiller 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

At Team Red Pill, we're not be stupid enough to fall for this shit

OP please fix, the irony is dangerously high.

But other than that, solid post.

[–]ek__ladka 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is essentially another take on Rollo's recent series of articles on Free Love. The beta males of Baby Boomer and 70's Hippy generation acquiesced with women of their generation in lifting of societal norms about promiscuity in the hope of that they will get some of the action. Women, of course, paid a lip service to these men, but as we all know here, more 'liberated' and 'egalitarian' a society is, more skewed the sexual marketplace becomes - which mean Pareto principle (90% of fun is being had by 10% men and 90% men are in competition for rest 10%) kicks in in it's extreme. And it is going to get worse, as we embrace more 'sex positivity' and become more 'progressive' (just look up Amy Schumer on YouTube, I don't know of any other mainstream celebrity who embraces 'sex positivity' more than she does).

Remember folks, there may be some males in the society who benefit from the promiscuous behavior of women (top 10%), but promiscuity doesn't trickle down the SMV hierarchy (like males of Free Love generation believed) - which means (plenty of) top tier women promiscuously mate with (handful of) top tear men only. So, if you sit lower on the SMV graph (which, you most likely do because you are on this subreddit) - raise your profile. Hence the advice of lifting, personality development, social game and putting yourself at the center of your efforts instead of women and other people.

And even if you finally fully realize your potential and become a top tier man, you may still never find a quality, unspoiled woman and may get divorce raped. Brace for the reality, folks. These are the times we have to navigate.

[–]SwissPablo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sex positivity is just another way to keep control on sex for women whilst giving the impression it benefits everyone, just like third-wave feminism in general.

[–]1sardinemanR 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's pretty simple. If anyone believes in family and commitment, they have to oppose feminism.

Anyone that is only interested in non-commitment sex should support feminism.

Since the vast, vast majority of men will never be able to get non-commitment sex, they should be opposed to feminism. Any woman that wants to be a mother and raise children in a stable family environment should also be opposed to feminism.

However, oddly enough, despite the fact that feminism is contrary to the interests of the vast majority of men and women, most men and women still support it. Go figure, huh?

I think it's akin to Millennials voting Democrat and getting hit with policies like high student loans, Obamacare and the like, despite being the primary victims of those policies.

[–]rKremlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women can't help it. It's like an all you can smoke crack buffet. It destroys their lives and society in general, but it's so much fun they can't say no. Any society where men aren't in command is doomed.

[–]cats_or_get_out 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

The sex positive movement makes everyone into losers. Not only does it hurt men (good post), it also hurts women--a lot.

We're certainly not raising our daughter to believe that sleeping around is harmless and fun. There are real consequences for women.

[–]rKremlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Women will probably be the biggest losers. They are just too dumb to realize it.

[–]2 Endorsed ContributorCisWhiteMaelstrom[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's actually true. For the first time since the 70s, women report less happiness than men both in relative and absolute terms.

[–]rKremlin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no free lunch. The only winner is the pos government.

[–]rossiFan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Outstanding, and well written. My only regret is that I have one upvote to give.

[–]Wolfwoodd 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Interesting post. I agree about the lack of trickle-down effect to betas. I just never really thought about it before.

Sex positivity works to the benefit of promiscuous alpha males (like me). I'm a non-monogamous swinger in an open marriage. Sex positivity is awesome as it directly benefits my sex life. From my perspective, slut-shamers are cock-blocks.

[–]rKremlin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Slut shaming is cock blocking by design. It was created by women to control other women who left the vagina scarcity reservation. Sluts are the scabs of the sexual union. Men aren't opposed to Sluts, we won't marry them, but our goals line up. Women hate Sluts because it lowers their market value through saturation.

[–]rippedsteel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bow down. Great post. Wow. So glad I found this place.

[–]SwissPablo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I'm a radical feminist, me. Honestly, you have to be these days to get your end away" -Paul Calf.

[–]MentORPHEUS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIL that thanks to Feminism, women always fuck up.

[–]yummyluckycharms 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good write up - I would add that what women practice is based off the wider concept of the disposable male in society. A society needs its betas to work hard for less pay, to consume without question, and to sacrifice themselves without hesitation. Essentially betas are orbiters to women and society at large.

[–]d00zerdude -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are you people so angry?

Forget the red pill, try a chill pill