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[–]HothHanSolo 1426ポイント1427ポイント  (123子コメント)

First can we talk about that remarkable wagon full of sunflowers?

[–]Tim_Buk2 489ポイント490ポイント  (79子コメント)

This photo is from the Netherlands and a few days ago it was the first year anniversary of the MH17 airline disaster which is remembered here with sunflowers (due to the fact that much some of the debris landed in a field of sunflowers.)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/17/mh17-dutch-victims-hilversum-sunflowers

Edited to add: here is the location of OP's photo in Street View which is indeed in north-east Hilversum.

[–]KateLovesDanger 121ポイント122ポイント  (16子コメント)

That's rather beautiful.

[–]the_wurd_burd 54ポイント55ポイント  (14子コメント)

That really is wonderful. There is literally nothing you can do for those that have passed away except to remember them. It's touching that tributes in memory of loved ones are evident all over the world. It's one of my favorite things about us as a species.

[–]Bacon_is_a_condiment 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

Elephants do it too! It's really easy to see these days too, what with us killing all of them right to extinction.

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      [–]Phrenchie 38ポイント39ポイント  (4子コメント)

      That was already a year ago?

      Edit: That sounded crass...I'm just stunned a year flew by. Usually with tragic events, I tend to forget about them after a few months. I'm sure I'm not the only one, there's just so much going on all the time. Something about this event though...I keep thinking about it periodically, even now a year after the fact.

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        [–]MagmaCream 45ポイント46ポイント  (2子コメント)

        I dont want to talk about that. Can we please get back to talking about Rampart?

        [–]______DEADPOOL______ 171ポイント172ポイント  (26子コメント)

        rollseyes

        Fine.

        Let's talk about that wagon of sunflowers.

        What about it?

        [–]NortonFord 232ポイント233ポイント  (21子コメント)

        It's purty.

        [–]______DEADPOOL______ 89ポイント90ポイント  (20子コメント)

        Alright.

        thumbs up

        Done. We talked about the damn wagon of sunflowers.

        Let's go back to objectifying this stupid feminism thing.

        [–]rdeluca 55ポイント56ポイント  (9子コメント)

        Alright, lemme give it a shot - Oh man look at the curves on those 8s and Bs on the licence plate. Oh, you mean the women? Shit. Lemme try again - Oh shit, look at her - Hold on... GAD BUSSUM?

        Hey gang! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands, lets split up and look for clues!

        [–]doubt_me 68ポイント69ポイント  (8子コメント)

        Bussum is a town in the netherlands. Dutch license plate as well. GAD I assume stands for Gemeentelijke Afval Dienst which means it's a truck from the city waste department. Mystery solved.

        [–]OgGorrilaKing 56ポイント57ポイント  (3子コメント)

        We did it, Reddit!

        [–]rdeluca 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Thanks Velma! Looks like another mystery solved by Mystery Inc!

        growling and barking

        That's right scoob! Ha ha ha ha ha

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          [–]6times9is42 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

          objectifying feminism

          Huh?

          [–]natestone 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Now can we talk about the "A" in the window on the right?

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              [–]Juge88 922ポイント923ポイント  (114子コメント)

              Leslie and April?

              [–]emsmale 695ポイント696ポイント  (89子コメント)

              http://imgur.com/dHyZs1L

              [–]azarken123 276ポイント277ポイント  (88子コメント)

              damn april still looks hot dressed as a garbage collecter

              [–]emsmale 318ポイント319ポイント  (9子コメント)

              http://imgur.com/euk5eCE

              [–]KindApple 174ポイント175ポイント  (3子コメント)

              Then you'll love me.

              [–]timbo4815 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

              This is when she looked the best.

              [–]VikingVenom 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

              I don't care about looks I just want a woman who takes out the garbage. I would be so happy.

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                [–]St_Veloth 85ポイント86ポイント  (12子コメント)

                She looks hotter when in her underwear and poorly attempting to masturbate

                edit: NSFW, woops

                [–]IAmARedditorAMAA 98ポイント99ポイント  (53子コメント)

                She'd look hot in anything

                [–]xDrSchnugglesx 133ポイント134ポイント  (43子コメント)

                She would even look hot naked.

                [–]twominitsturkish 122ポイント123ポイント  (39子コメント)

                http://i.imgur.com/36RmWXF.jpg

                [–]KushMaster5000 35ポイント36ポイント  (37子コメント)

                I knew it would be a lie, but I hoped. Oh, how I hoped that would be a link to some nudes.

                [–]_GeneParmesan_ 18ポイント19ポイント  (12子コメント)

                just google hey nudes, they're ok

                her nudes, but hey nudes is good

                [–]Ralex- 44ポイント45ポイント  (11子コメント)

                THIS IS OBVIOUSLY VERY NSFW: Enjoy friend

                [–]Mshake6192 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Looks like somebody missed the Fappening

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                      [–]i_ejaculate_fire 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Judging by all the replies to this comment, she'd also look hot naked

                      [–]IAmARedditorAMAA 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      She'd also look hot naked.

                      [–]foolish-rain 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Even in no clothes.

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                        [–]trua 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It's because of the professionally done camera work, lighting, makeup and hair.

                        [–]BayAreaDreamer 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Feminism!

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                          [–]resstastic 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Haha i just finished watching this episode. Parks and Recreation S05E11 if anyone wants to know.

                          [–]MrTizl 54ポイント55ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          Now move this fridge.

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                            [–]Sootraggins 2047ポイント2048ポイント  (693子コメント)

                            That's called employment, or a vocation if they both dreamed of being trash ladies.

                            [–]ked_man 485ポイント486ポイント  (69子コメント)

                            This is called a photoshoot. I work for Solid Waste Services in a large metro area. No actual tipper is that clean. Even a clean uniform still has stains on it.

                            [–]Spacejack_ 170ポイント171ポイント  (30子コメント)

                            Pardon if this is a stupid question, but I've also never seen garbage collectors in short sleeves or tank tops. Isn't there some value in wearing a bit of armor against cuts in such a potentially infectious job?

                            [–]MonsterBlash 76ポイント77ポイント  (13子コメント)

                            There is. That doesn't mean that everyone always do the most appropriate things.
                            I've seen a couple of garbage collectors in short sleeves, never understood it.
                            I think now they have uniforms code to prevent people doing dumb things. (And, more importantly, keep insurance costs down.)

                            [–]hamsammicher 27ポイント28ポイント  (11子コメント)

                            I would totally wear long sleeves + gloves + safety glasses. I don't want rotten stuff or shit or cum or blood or any of the ungodly things in garbage (or better yet, get a cut from a piece of glass containing any of the aforementioned) on my arms.

                            [–]GreenLips 26ポイント27ポイント  (8子コメント)

                            Say that in the middle of summer. I don't work with rubbish, but I do work with some nasty chemicals. Everyday starts off with good intentions, but as the head builds the sleeves get rolled up and gloves are only on where absolutely needed. I know what could happen, but sweating my own weight every day is not fun.

                            [–]hamsammicher 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                            I live in the South. It feels like over 100 F outside right now. I wear a hat, sleeves and gloves when I work outside, to avoid sunburn and keep vegetable matter off of my skin. As far as sweating, my clothes are usually soaked within the first 15 minutes, so who cares?

                            [–]GreenLips 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Different ways of dealing with it then. I know I'd end up with my sleeves rolled up in that sort of work, based on how I work at present.

                            [–]Harvey_Wants_Hugs [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                            I'd go tube top and assless leather chaps. Flip flops to keep it breezy. I like to look extra sexy cause I get sensual with the garbage. I love my job. Physically.

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                                [–]smartzie 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                After you work with gross stuff for a while, you start to forgo the clothing layers of protection for comfort, even if you do get shit on your skin. I work with wastewater all day. I have gotten literal shit on me before. I just go wash it off and remember they gave me a round of hepatitis vaccinations when I started.

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                                    [–]captainfantastyk 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                    I used to work as a garbage Man, there was no such thing as a "set uniform" just safety equipment you needed to wear.

                                    Of course this was a job for the Canadian government, things could be different elsewhere.

                                    [–]LoveCommittinSins 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    Yeah, you want long pants and sleeves and a hat (and eye wear). Even in 90 degree heat.
                                    On top of the miscellaneous cuts you'd receive, there's at least one mystery juice that's going to randomly splash on you every day.
                                    Once dropped an old car battery into the back of a pickup (you don't just crush those in the truck) and some random shit came splurting out of it onto my face. Had goggles and hat, but still a bad day.

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                                      [–]10tothe24th 27ポイント28ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      It's the Netherlands. Everything is that clean.

                                      [–]Coopernicus 62ポイント63ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                      This isn't fake. They don't actually do the garbage tipping, they just place the bins in front of a device that tips them ... And a photo shoot taken from the inside of another car? you can see the reflections...

                                      [–]rotzooi 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Probably in the US? In The Netherlands, it's relatively common for women to work on garbage trucks.

                                      That is still 'not very' common, but because the work isn't physically demanding (no lifting anything, they just roll the containers and place them in a line so the truck's mechanism can pick them up two or four at a time), there is no reason they couldn't do it.

                                      Quite a few female students I personally know have done this job for 6 months or a year, because it's decent pay. On top of that, if you claim benefits and there is a shortage of waste service personnel, you eventually have to take the job you're offered, man or woman.

                                      edit: on top of that, what ridiculous photoshoot would shoot from behind the window of a car? You can see the reflection in the picture...

                                      [–]hamsammicher 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      Would they have arms that soft if they were toting trash cans? In other words, "do they even lift, bro?"

                                      [–]toggaflatot 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      http://i.imgur.com/HRV9fDt.jpg

                                      [–]CompanionCone 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                      I don't know about that, I'm Dutch and this looks pretty convincing to me. If it was a photoshoot they could have gotten much prettier girls...

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                                        [–]midasz[S] 696ポイント697ポイント  (611子コメント)

                                        When I think of people working behind a garbage truck I think of men, that is my own prejudice but I think many people share that (look at this thread). So when I saw this picture the first thing I thought was oh nice they don't give a fuck about other peoples prejudices and just do what they want, more importantly CAN do what they want. This could very well be a bad example to you, but it speaks to me.

                                        [–]CNDNFighter 661ポイント662ポイント  (70子コメント)

                                        You aren't wrong.

                                        I'm sure there will be people in here who shit on your idea, but I agree that women working in historically male dominated fields is a fine example of feminism in action

                                        [–]FranciscoBizarro 136ポイント137ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                        I agree. I don't know whether or not being a woman and doing a particular job is "feminism in action" - that could be a personal thing, whether or not the woman herself was motivated to do so by feminist ideals. If not, it's just a woman doing a job. But definitely, definitely, it's beneficial for gender equality when women make in-roads into traditionally male-dominated fields. It's progress, it sets a precedent, and it makes it more normal for women to participate in that particular field going forward. So, in that sense, a woman simply doing a job could do more good for feminism than most feminists can with their words alone.

                                        [–]N4th4niel 88ポイント89ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                        Well I mean without feminism, the woman wouldn't have been able to get the job, so it is still an example of feminism in action.

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                                          [–]dumdeedoodah 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          I don't think people will shit on the fact that this is feminism, but the fact that OP is implying that other forms of feminism aren't valid by saying that this is actual feminism.

                                          [–]graffiti81 21ポイント22ポイント  (25子コメント)

                                          They're probably making damned good money too. And it's a union job.

                                          [–]nmhunate 11ポイント12ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                          Not all are Union gigs, unfortunately.

                                          With solidarity, Nmhunate

                                          [–]slappadabaess 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          Is the union part true in Europe? This looks like Europe, and I'm just wondering.

                                          [–]navel_fluff 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          There is no such thing as a 'union job' but pretty much every big institution or corporation that employs manual labourers has a strong or at least big union. I work for volvo trucks and over 90% of the labourers are union members, more relevantly the union of my local garbage collection agency just managed to have two executives fired. Apparently 75% of my country's employees are union members, especially in a larger company it's a no brainer to join (in my very unionized sector it's only 30 euro/year), but even in small companies the administrative and legal support in case of firing, unemployment, or just general questions make it worthwile to join.

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                                            [–]karnivoorischenkiwi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Considering this is a Dutch garbage truck you're probably right :P

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                                                [–]fencerman 178ポイント179ポイント  (236子コメント)

                                                Why does anyone think that feminism isn't supportive of women trying to work in fields like garbage collection or manual labour? Yes, helping break down those barriers is a good thing too.

                                                [–]forRealsThough 77ポイント78ポイント  (218子コメント)

                                                Because its a slippery slope once you acknowledge that a glass floor exists. Now we have to talk about conscription and prison population diversity

                                                [–]fencerman 98ポイント99ポイント  (182子コメント)

                                                Okay -

                                                1. Conscription should be banned, but if it happens it should apply equally to everyone. Women not being included is an example of sexism against women that assumes they are incapable of physical jobs.

                                                2. Excessive imprisonment is a problem in general, and does tend to fall excessively hard on males, especially visible minority males; that should be drastically reduced as well. It's also closely tied to poverty and racism which should also be addressed to avoid any narrow discussions about imprisonment alone.

                                                [–]whtsnk 63ポイント64ポイント  (83子コメント)

                                                I see conscription as sexism against men.

                                                [–]fencerman 111ポイント112ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                                In a sense, all sexism is against both men and women to some degree or another, since it depends on reinforcing gender roles and assuming all members of either gender are the same.

                                                In the case of conscription, it is based on negative perceptions of women's capabilities, and it also negatively harms men by making them the only group being conscripted.

                                                Of course, that's why feminism is generally a good thing for both genders, since it breaks down the social assumptions on both sides.

                                                [–]Life-in-Death 28ポイント29ポイント  (43子コメント)

                                                Men invented it.

                                                Women are actively fighting for the right to be in combat.

                                                [–]Drrio 2ポイント3ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                                I think the issue is that many men do not want to be in combat. Many militaries employ women, almost every field within it is open to them.

                                                The issue is forced conscription not the right to combat.

                                                [–]Jake0024 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                So men can be sexist against other men, that's not news.

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                                                  [–]buriedinthyeyes 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  Which is why feminism opposes it

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                                                          [–]Jakoman7 51ポイント52ポイント  (226子コメント)

                                                          I mean, that's not so much a prejudice as it is just normalcy. I have never in my life seen a female garbage collector. Some jobs are more populated by men, and some by women. That isn't a bad thing, it's just the way things work.

                                                          [–]Ghede 137ポイント138ポイント  (74子コメント)

                                                          As someone who has worked in a grocery store, it's a bad thing. Not only do some grocery stores flat out refuse to hire male cashiers, but the ones that do often have the men push carts or stock shelves because men are big and stroooong. Fuck, I failed gym in high school. I was probably weaker than half the women working the store. But hell, my boss is saying we're short handed on carts, and they sure as hell won't ask Ms. Gymnast and jogger to do it.

                                                          [–]Jakoman7 51ポイント52ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                          Hm, really? The grocery I work at has front end split pretty 50/50.

                                                          [–]underoath17 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          Most grocery stores I go to have both male and female cashiers, but now that I think of it, I can't remember a time that I've ever seen women collecting carts outside.

                                                          [–]ikilldinosaurs 51ポイント52ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                          Every store I've ever been to has male and female cashiers.

                                                          [–]Cormophyte 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Just off the top of my head every Vons I've ever been to has been stacked with female cashiers. If there were guys it was very infrequent.

                                                          But we're talking anecdotally, so neither of our opinions really mean much at all.

                                                          [–]Leetzers 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I used to work at a grocer in my town and the way they had it ran had been that the girls worked at the register while the guys had to bag and do physical labor. The girls even got to leave at close while the guys had to clean the store. Not saying it's right, but that's just how it was.

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                                                              [–]ieGod 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                              I failed gym in high school.

                                                              So he's doing you a favor by getting you to do reps of shoulder presses? Such bro boss.

                                                              [–]rjksn 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              Stocking shelves and pushing carts are more enjoyable jobs. Did all of them. ;)

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                                                                [–]AngryMulbear 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                I met a cute FedEx driver the other day.

                                                                Considering the seniority you need to drive, she must enjoy the job.

                                                                [–]Jakoman7 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                I'm sorry, you just reminded me my new telescope comes in today.

                                                                Anywho, Fedex driver actually seems like a good gig. Yeah, you got to haul some heavy boxes, but $24 an hour would make that worth it.

                                                                [–]partywitharetha 18ポイント19ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                                It is a bad thing when typically female jobs are seen as lesser, and thus have lower salaries, than typically male jobs (Nurse vs. Doctor, Teacher vs. Professor). Women are socialized to advocate for themselves less and to believe that they need to put their families ahead of their careers, which stops them from getting to the higher paying and more rewarding careers. It isn't that we don't want them. Even for something like maid vs. janitor, where there is basically no reason for the gender segregation, the male job gets paid more on average.

                                                                [–]Esco91 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                Even for something like maid vs. janitor, where there is basically no reason for the gender segregation, the male job gets paid more on average.

                                                                There is a perfectly good reason - a janitor is a different job, and falls into a very different category - it's semi skilled labour, because you have to know certain things (basic plumbing, basic woodworking etc) in order to be able to do it. Maid/Cleaner is classed as an unskilled job, one which anyone able bodied can do. Thus the pool of potential candidates is much higher, so the company paying for the janitor will have to offer a high remuneration, while the company paying for the maids will be able to offer the bare minimum.

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                                                                  [–]Posseon1stAve 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  I'm good friends with Oscar, and he said there's garbage collectors of every gender and race.

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                                                                        [–]spitting_nonsense 106ポイント107ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                        I think they just call that a 'job'.

                                                                        [–]blondandconfused 241ポイント242ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                                                        As a chick who works in the construction/development industry and was recently told "project management and business development isn't a place for women," I like this. I like this very much.

                                                                        [–]SciSlatS 43ポイント44ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                        Sounds like the US. As an American, seeing women (let alone attractive ones) working a host of generally dirty, blue-collar jobs is all but unheard of. I was a bit shocked when I visited Italy and the person who filled my gas was a young, attractive blonde green-eyed woman. Just goes to show the amount of social capital they possess here in the States compared to Europe, in addition to differing cultures.

                                                                        [–]Low_discrepancy 23ポイント24ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                        I visited Italy and the person who filled my gas was a young

                                                                        What is this place where they pump gas for you? It's almost unheard of in Europe.

                                                                        [–]skylla05 [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

                                                                        What is this place where they pump gas for you? It's almost unheard of in Europe.

                                                                        It's becoming a lot less widespread over here in North America too. 25 years ago though, it was virtually everywhere.

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                                                                            [–]just_redditing 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            They just told you that because you get confused easily.

                                                                            [–]daybreakx 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                            Maybe it was just because you were blonde and really confused?

                                                                            [–]Vagnaard 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            You nearly got downvoted until I read the op's name!

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                                                                              [–]HermergerDragons 94ポイント95ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                              It just seems a tad staged. Not them being garbage workers, but the pose. Can you provide some context OP?

                                                                              [–]SpanishInfluenza 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                              Staged? What, does your garbageman not regularly hoist a leg up and twist slightly to favor onlookers with his well-toned and tightly-clad buttocks?

                                                                              I'm glad I don't live in your neighborhood.

                                                                              [–]StabbyDMcStabberson 59ポイント60ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                              Definitely the cleanest garbage workers I've ever seen, unless it's the start of the shift.

                                                                              [–]rotzooi [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                              This is local to where I used to live. They could wear their wedding dresses for an entire shift and then go straight to the altar without a single stain.

                                                                              Garbage in most Dutch cities is put in wheeled bins (recyclables one week, all other random trash the next) and put out on the streets. These women roll those containers in a neat line so the truck's mechanism can pick them op two or four at a time and tip them in its flatbed or whatever it is called.

                                                                              [–]_PurpleAlien_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                              As someone who used to work in the same job these girls are in, being and staying clean in this job is normal in countries like The Netherlands. The truck lifts the bins in the back, and all one does is drive the bins back and forth to the truck. Should they need extra shaking, you're well away from any potential dirt that can fly off since you're at the side of the truck, shielded from the bin.

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                                                                                [–]Assorted_Bits 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                The majority of Dutch households have these containers on wheels for the trash (green one for food and garden stuff, black for anything else (although the latter differs per municipality)).

                                                                                Trash(wo)men here mostly spend their time rolling those containers into those pistons at the bottom which do the lifting.

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                                                                                  [–]niktemadur 59ポイント60ポイント  (38子コメント)

                                                                                  "Gad Bussum" on the plate, upper right.
                                                                                  This would make it The Netherlands.

                                                                                  [–]bob_in_the_west 86ポイント87ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                  Or the very obvious dutch number plate.

                                                                                  [–]baseacegoku 38ポイント39ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                  The fact that the EU symbol on the plate has NL under the stars didn't give it away?

                                                                                  [–]dunemafia 69ポイント70ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                                                                  No. Could be Norwayland.

                                                                                  [–]baseacegoku 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                  Damn, how stupid of me to forget that country

                                                                                  [–]coffedrank 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                  We dont have the EU symbol on our plates, because we're not in the EU.

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                                                                                      [–]TheMarkmanHorror 47ポイント48ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                      Pretty sure those are just Hop-ons.

                                                                                      [–]Johnny_Couger 48ポイント49ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                      Well yea, you're gonna get some hop ons :/

                                                                                      [–]weirdmountain 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                      And watch out for banners...

                                                                                      [–]joshcamas 99ポイント100ポイント  (79子コメント)

                                                                                      Trashmen make quite a bit of money, actually

                                                                                      [–]lukeyflukey 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                      Danger money. Er, or in garbage I suppose it's deodorant money.

                                                                                      [–]thoughtofitrightnow 64ポイント65ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                      Comon dude its trash"women" god have you learnt nothing?

                                                                                      [–]Schneiderman 13ポイント14ポイント  (19子コメント)

                                                                                      Not in my city, they make like $10.50/hr. I made more than that while I was still in highschool.

                                                                                      [–]eweidenbener 20ポイント21ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                                                      I make less than that as an EMT.

                                                                                      [–]BrotherOfMotherOther 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                      Dude just spend thousands more and another couple years to get your paramedic license and then you can make $12/hr!

                                                                                      [–]cyclenaut 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                      how the fuck is that right? Im a cook and i make $15 per hour. If i fuck up, someones lunch is ruined, if you fuck up, someones LIFE is ruined.

                                                                                      How do they get away with paying less than $10 for an EMT? I mean, i suppose in time, you will be making BANK and i will still be making my measly $15.. but still....

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                                                                                            [–]Stylnator 94ポイント95ポイント  (29子コメント)

                                                                                            People keep complaining about how feminism should also work to break into trade professions dominated by men and I think absolutely - there should be nothing to hinder such an opportunity. But if we really want to talk about these jobs: coal mining, garbage collectors, etc. I think a bigger focus should be placed on making working conditions safer and labor benefits better. No young boy or girl jumps out of bed every morning in the hopes of working at a place that isn't that good to work at.

                                                                                            [–]Lou__Tennant 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                            I absolutely agree that conditions need to be improved in these occupations. However, I think some of the criticism of feminism comes from when feminists ignore poor and low social status men. Feminists often point out that men are more likely to have high paying and high social status jobs. While this is true, why would you ignore the men that have low paying and low social status jobs? If you want scholarships for women in science, shouldn't you also want scholarships for men in areas like nursing, for example? How often do you hear feminists campaigning for this? I certainly don't hear it very often, if ever. In the mainstream media in Australia I often hear about how few billionaire and CEO women there are. Is this really an issue that we should care about? These people make up a very small proportion of the population. Very few men have the opportunity to become billionaires and CEOs too.

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                                                                                              [–]IBYMBYBMYL 602ポイント603ポイント  (276子コメント)

                                                                                              Two women on the back of a garbage truck is true feminism? What?

                                                                                              [–]zanthraxnl 661ポイント662ポイント  (90子コメント)

                                                                                              These ladies didn't break the glass ceiling, they broke the glass floor.
                                                                                              Equality works both ways.

                                                                                              [–]MrBrawn 284ポイント285ポイント  (83子コメント)

                                                                                              Garbage people make a pretty good living.

                                                                                              [–]RonWisely 158ポイント159ポイント  (24子コメント)

                                                                                              I don't think garbage people is a very endearing term.

                                                                                              [–]Spliffa 58ポイント59ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                              Waste Folk?

                                                                                              [–]DJSlambert 85ポイント86ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                              Sanitation Engineer?

                                                                                              [–]grospoliner 51ポイント52ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                                                              If they have state issued engineering licensure. Otherwise they're technicians.

                                                                                              [–]AllOverTheWorld 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                              Trash technicians. Or better:

                                                                                              Trashnicians

                                                                                              [–]Unrelated_Incident 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                              I don't think I got a license when I graduated. Am I a technician?

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                                                                                                  [–]velonaut 36ポイント37ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                  Pick-up artists?

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                                                                                                  Pick up artists and garbage men should switch names.

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                                                                                                  [–]absump 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                  We usually spare them the "endearing" names.

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                                                                                                      [–]-d-d- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                      Pretty sure women have been doing minimum wage jobs for awhile now.

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                                                                                                        [–]RedAnarchist 178ポイント179ポイント  (50子コメント)

                                                                                                        It's Reddit dude...

                                                                                                        The same site that though Ellen Pao was the worst person in the world, deserved to be punched in the face, and was undermining basic rights.

                                                                                                        Then when they found out she didn't actually do any of the changes, was trying to prevent them, and another dude did everything that this site was "protesting" about, no one gave a flying fuck as loudly as they did for her.

                                                                                                        This site literally demonstrated why no one should think of it as nothing but entitled man-children on the web with a really poor understanding of the world around them.

                                                                                                        [–]TheUPisstillascam 85ポイント86ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                                                                                        The Ellen Pao shit made me embarrassed to be on Reddit. I can no longer defend the site to people I talk to and barely want them to know I use the site myself.

                                                                                                        If there was any validity to their complaints about how the site is run, it was all but negated by flooding r/all with Hitler comparisons and comments on her appearance and sexual history.

                                                                                                        And then the brigades all but disappeared, even when the new CEO literally said that free speech isn't what the company is about, which was one of the brigade's main complaints supposedly.

                                                                                                        It's apt that we're discussing this in the comments of a picture of people working with garbage because, despite there being good people on this site, I think we are all complicit for not doing more to take out the garbage parts of the community.

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                                                                                                          [–]j0npau1 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                          Two hot women on the back of a garbage truck. It only counts as true feminism here if they're fun to look at.

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                                                                                                            [–]PortedOasis 58ポイント59ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                                                            Actual feminism: taking pictures of women doing their job for reddit karma.

                                                                                                            [–]Nxjimmers 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            That looks like actual community service

                                                                                                            [–]gg_h4x 206ポイント207ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                            terrible title

                                                                                                            [–]ArnieSchwarzenegro 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            Kid overwhelmed to meet feminist hero trash-women

                                                                                                            [–]gg_h4x 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                            oh my god... this is everything. thank you

                                                                                                            [–]everywhere_anyhow 61ポイント62ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                            The title's just bait. If it had been accurately titled, this link would have sunk into oblivion immediately, since 2 trash collectors at work isn't really, well, interesting at all. Until you put an odd spin on it.

                                                                                                            RULE #1 OF REDDIT: Shitpost + inflammatory/misleading title = FRONT PAGE MATERIAL

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                                                                                                              [–]cs_assault 37ポイント38ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                              If tiny men in Asian countries can do jobs like that, surely giant Dutch women can do them too.

                                                                                                              [–]StabbyDMcStabberson 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                              Especially if that's one of the fancy trucks with a robot arm for the heavy trash cans.

                                                                                                              [–]Gammro 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                              I don't think I've ever seen a garbage truck that doesn't have that in the Netherlands.

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                                                                                                                  [–]ThatsCheeseburgers 59ポイント60ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Nope. Just two people working. As long as you put these two women in a special category you will always seem them differently from men doing the same job. You don't call women working in a book store feminists, do you?

                                                                                                                  Reminds me of the subtle racism of lowered expectations.

                                                                                                                  [–]treecookiehugwater 16ポイント17ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Now, move this fridge!

                                                                                                                  [–]Hexxical 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                  We're gonna need a new landfill for all these comments.

                                                                                                                  [–]Torbax 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  The weird feeling when you're looking at a reddit post for 10 minutes and then finally realize that it is indeed around the corner of your house...

                                                                                                                  [–]_Affexion_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                                                                  As a feminist, I stand by this 100%.

                                                                                                                  Is it weird that I think it's probably a fun gig?

                                                                                                                  [–]purepoenage 155ポイント156ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                                                                  oh ffs. they're going to argue feminism in /r/pics?

                                                                                                                  [–]Caplax 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Is this in the Netherlands?

                                                                                                                  [–]audioelement 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Yes.

                                                                                                                  [–]WarWorld 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                  the orange uniforms was a dead giveaway..

                                                                                                                  [–]nod23 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  The license plate is even clearer :)

                                                                                                                  [–]EmEffBee 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Sure, if it's actually a picture of women at work and not a photoshoot.

                                                                                                                  [–]PM_ASSHOLE_GIRLS 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  actual feminism is women working normal jobs?

                                                                                                                  [–]ReluctantRedditor275 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Ah, breaking the glass floor!

                                                                                                                  [–]terran_immortal 137ポイント138ポイント  (111子コメント)

                                                                                                                  Feminism is one of the contributing factors as to why I'm even able to have a career (Male nurse). Without Feminism, nurses would still be only women and doctors only men.

                                                                                                                  Feminism did many great things for society but this new neo-Feminism is doing nothing but hurting Feminism as a whole.

                                                                                                                  [–]guzzball 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                  It's still a big problem. I wasn't able to go into my career of choice, another healthcare field dominated by women, because they wouldn't accept me into the program due to being a man.

                                                                                                                  [–]barrinmw 21ポイント22ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                                                                  So, how much shit have you gotten from the female nurses for being a male nurse?

                                                                                                                  [–]leapkins 53ポイント54ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                                                                                  A male friend of mine is a nurse, I don't think the shit he gets for it ever stops. And most of it is from women.

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                                                                                                                    [–]Kibblets 57ポイント58ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Similar to destructive riots for equal rights for black men and women, there is always a dark side to something great. Tumblr feminism "PIV is always rape" bullshit is not a sentiment shared by most feminists.

                                                                                                                    [–]rawlingstones 81ポイント82ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                                                                    Yet if you learn about feminism from Reddit, you would think it's 100% of what they talk about.

                                                                                                                    [–]epsilonbob [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                    It's a 'vocal minority'/'squeaky wheel' problem. All of the "level headed common sense" feminism gets ignored/not posted because "well yeah that makes sense" ::moves along::

                                                                                                                    It's the really extreme/fucked up stuff that gets posted and harped on because "What the fuck is this bullshit..." ::you guys gotta see this::

                                                                                                                    Same reason why "Police officer writes parking ticket" will never lead the 6 o'clock news but "Officer involved shooting" or "high speed chase" always will. No one cares about the regular/noncontroversial/average stuff in the 'middle' just the extremes at either end

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                                                                                                                        [–]WaitingToBeBanned 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                        Citation needed.

                                                                                                                        [–]bl1y 12ポイント13ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                                                                                                        That's not necessarily the case. Nursing was a predominantly male field up until the early 1900s, when it switched to being largely women.

                                                                                                                        I'd imagine this switch came as a way to give women more opportunities to work, and in better, more professional jobs. It's entirely plausible that feminism is what pushed men out of the nursing field to begin with.

                                                                                                                        [–]Khorib 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                        The switch came during the World Wars when most men were away fighting and women had to take up the jobs in their stead. It was nessesity.

                                                                                                                        Then, when the men came home are started getting their old jobs back, women went back to the home. This is where feminism stepped in to protest the loss of many of those jobs. They were able to hold and maintain firm ground in teaching and nursing, but abondoned most of the industrial work.

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                                                                                                                            [–]jwinskowski [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                                                                                                            For real. All this talk about why women should be CEOs and scientists, why not let them be welders and garbage women and construction forewomen?

                                                                                                                            [–]Wandering_Seoul 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                                                                            Yes! So much yes in this photo! I couldn't be more proud and happy for those women. That line of work is tough and not typically recognized in the status it should be regarded in. We all NEED more people like this because NOBODY wants to live in an unclean neighborhood. Men & Women who work in Waste Collection are JUST as important to a city as Firefighters, Police, & all public servants really. BRAVO!

                                                                                                                            [–]plaidbackpack 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                                                                            It's amazing, there's almost an even split in these comments - half the people think it's attacking the concept of feminism, the other half think it's supporting.

                                                                                                                            [–]manhatingthrowaway 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                                                                            I'd like to ask op what does he know of feminist theories, what schools of thought he knows about, what author he has read?

                                                                                                                            Clearly, he knows a lot about this topic since he gets to call the shots on what is "actual" feminism and what is, I presume, false feminism.

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