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[–]Nonyabiness 259ポイント260ポイント  (105子コメント)

This new wave feminism is bullshit. Don't get me wrong, I'm far from anti-feminism and equality, but you absolutely cannot pull this shit and expect to be taken seriously.

This drums up just what Jerry Seinfeld was talking about when he said he quit performing at universities. These cunts get offended and try to protest at the smallest hint at someone's feeling getting hurt.

If everyone agrees with everyone, something is in the water. Opposing views are healthy, no matter how "offensive" they may be. Discourse is good. Especially on a college fucking campus.

I'll never understand these people.

[–]PostmanSteve 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

This lady puts it quite well IMO.

Interview is extremely relevant to this video.

[–]Nerdinater 68ポイント69ポイント  (76子コメント)

This is not Feminism this is bigotry. These women are ruining the true stance of Feminism. It is women like this that sadly get more attention than Feminists who are trying to make true change and equal rights.

[–]Nonyabiness 23ポイント24ポイント  (22子コメント)

Thats why I mentioned this new wave feminism shit.

[–]blue_2501 28ポイント29ポイント  (8子コメント)

Just call them what they are: SJWs.

[–]ferengiprophet 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

No true Scotsman is a bigot

[–]paradeofthehorribles 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is Feminism. They were feminists. Don't use the, "no true Scotsman" fallacy.

[–]oykno 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is not Feminism this is bigotry.

In 2015, what's the difference?

[–]paper_and_more_paper 14ポイント15ポイント  (38子コメント)

Feminists who are trying to make true change and equal rights.

What true change is needed exactly? For how many years has the average person seen women and men as equal? For how many years have men and women grown up not seeing a difference between each other, in terms of possible employment avenues and so on?

We're so past equality now it's ridiculous, now a woman has a significantly easier time than a man with the same qualifications at getting a university degree and being hired in STEM jobs for example. There is a massive discriminatory practice against men and it keeps getting worse thanks to people like you continuously babbling on about equality.

[–]ArchangelleEbolachan 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the problem with "feminism." It's nebulous. Everything wrong with feminism isn't "real" feminism. And everything wrong with gender relations is because of "The Patriarchy." So if you say anything bad about feminism, you just "don't understand what feminism really is."

[–]AlphaWookie 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

True feminism is bigotry. Feminism is an ideology and world view that hates men and boys. Its guiding ideological tenet is The Patriarchy Theorytm . Which makes the ridiculous claim that throughout human history men have systematically oppressed women as a matter of course. Patriarchy theorytm is just as ludicrous as what anti-Semite say about Jews systematically oppressing gentiles. Feminism the ideology looks at a complex issues like the roles of men and women through history through such a narrow and distorted lens that it would be better left on the ash heap of history.

[–]fforiwr 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Then it's time to change the name. Just like many other words throughout history, no matter how good an idea may be, it can be co-opted and it's almost always easier to find a new word and build from that. The word "Feminism" really has needed to be changed to something more neutral for awhile now.

[–]AlphaWookie 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

A name change does not matter if the ideology is still the same.

[–]fforiwr 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You say that, but why change to LGBT, or whatever the new version is? Imagine if it had been called male-ism, fighting for women's rights? I am sure it would have been changed to something more neutral long ago. Feminism purports to be fighting for everyone, but to not change the name is actually a form of power hoarding. Feminism wants to speak for other groups, but doesn't want to give up the power the word means (women) - and words have significant power.

[–]sayitinmygoodear 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, it helps that there are more women that think this is feminism than otherwise.

[–]salamanderXIII 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that based on more than a hunch? I'm genuinely curious.

[–]towelleee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't get why feminists don't go after stuff that is genuine inequality like female genital mutilation or even something like not being able to drive. But that doesn't affect them so they find stuff that might potentially affect them in their first world country. I'd be 100% behind the movement if they focused on actual issues but none of those issues affect them

[–]rudster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feminism isn't equality. Feminism is what it sounds like--advocacy for women for whatever reason a person wants to advocate for them. Bigotry is of course going to be included.

Before you disagree--here's a thought experiment: if feminism == equality, why/how is someone who takes the political stance that we should abort almost all men a "radical feminist" rather than an anti-feminist. If feminism == equality, wouldn't they be an anti-feminist?

[–]PoisonousPlatypus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the true stance of Feminism

Then what is it? Because it's not equality.

[–]soad2237 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The two women in the middle were the worst of them.

[–]user6580 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm pro equality, anti-feminist.

Feminism was good when it allowed women into the workforce and gave them the vote. I believe women should have equal representation in all matters, and of course having them in the workforce only strengthens the economy. Women do deserve special treatment as well as not only are they competing in a consumerist society but they are also neccessary for child raising (I just don't think men do as good a job on average).

That being said, the last 4 decades of feminism has instilled a huge sense of entitlement in some women, especially those who identify themselves as hardcore feminists.

Women need to understand that they have it better than men. Society looks at a women who is struggling and reaches at a hand to help her. Society sees a man struggling and tells him he is pathetic.

Mental Health issues, financial difficulties or even cancer. Men die a lot sooner, more likely to be homeless, less likely to receive help for mental illness.

So I'm anti-feminist because todays feminists aren't actually feminist. Yes women are still suffering all over the world BUT NOT IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD. Canada is arguably the best country in the world at this moment (top 5 for sure).

But instead of these feminists actually going out to help women WHO NEED IT, they go and stop MEN from getting help.

Modern day feminism = sexism towards men.

[–]JCLNV 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Canada is arguably the best country in the developed world at this moment"

WTF.

[–]Desishuns 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Women need to understand that they have it better than men.

And they would rather claw their own eyes out before even considering that to be true.

[–]teepy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is my position that Modern Feminism is an example of slave morality, and that as such can only serve to empower women in direct proportion to the amount of actual gender-based oppression they experience, and that in the absence of a strong, coherent and concrete male master class, the inherent re-sentiment of feminism is incapable of empowering anyone.

What I mean is that as a society approaches equality, the tools feminism provides for the empowerment of women become increasingly less useful and ineffective. I would argue that we have already reached and passed the point in history (at least in the West) at which feminisms diminishing returns become overwhelmed by the inherent limiting nature of slave morality.

Slave morality is fundamentally dis empowering because slave morality makes no allowances for the possibility of a person to act on their own agency and exercise their will to power. Slave morality, but its nature, must necessarily condemn agency and the will to power, as these are the hallmarks of the Master class, and the primary purpose of slave morality is to demonize the Master class.

Thus feminism has no concept of healthy masculinity, seeing masculinity as only a symptom of the Master and thus seeing all hallmarks of masculinity as oppressive. This is highly problematic, since traditional masculinity is a form of master morality intended to prepare boys for their potential roles as leaders of men.

Thus, traditional masculinity places extreme emphasis on personal responsibility for one's actions, honor as an assurance of good faith and trustworthiness, and stoicism in the face of hardship and pain. The man who whines constantly about his disadvantages, blames others for his failures, and insists on being rewarded and praised for existing is defined by traditional masculinity as a loser, as not really a man.

A generation of women who came of age in a time when legal and social barriers made it impossible for women to excel developed feminism as a critique and deconstruction of traditional masculine gender bias, and launched a widespread series of social changes that resulted in full legal equality for women. The generation that followed them was raised, male and female alike, with a belief in social equality.

Yet, women do not yet posses equality of outcomes with men. Men are still more likely to hold political power and economic power. Why is this? My suggestion is that it is due largely to feminism, which has failed to adjust its central premises in the face of the end of institutional inequality.

Why are there fewer women in political office than men? Recent studies have shown little evidence of gender bias amongst voters, and the problem seems to largely come down to one single factor: Women just don't run for office very often. In fact, if women had won every single race they participated in during the 2012 elections (which they very nearly did), the make-up of the government would still have been overwhelmingly male.

The traditional feminism response is to seek out blame and find an oppressive force working against women, except there isn't anything there to find. What's lacking is encouragement to women to seek power. Something which, not surprisingly, is fundamentally at odds with the worldviews that feminism derives from, in which seeking power is Master morality and inherently anti-feminist.

Thus, strangely, we see some unusual trends in society. For example, Republican women candidates are, according to surveys, seen as more competent and more qualified as leaders than Democratic women. I would suggest this is due to the fact that Republican women tend to reject the Woman As Victim, Male As Victimizer model of feminism, and instead see themselves as true equals of men -- every bit as capable of acting on their ambitions and pursuing their will to power as men are. Meanwhile, Democratic women are more likely to embrace feminism and portray women as victims of society, which in turn makes them seem less powerful (as powerful people do not see themselves as victims).

Thus it is my position that modern women, faced with the reality of political and social equality, will never gain equality of outcomes unless they abandon feminism. So long as they rail against an oppressive state that no longer exists, they cannot truly empower women. Instead, they can only turn their energies towards more and more frivilous and meaningless displays of "oppression."

This is most vividly seen in the blogs of "Tumblr feminists" -- young women who, rather than embracing the tremendous freedoms they have and seeking to make meaningful careers for themselves, instead assign themselves to perpetual victim-hood. They make charting their own victimization, mapping the intersections of their oppression, their primary hobby. Rather than empower themselves, they scream at the world "Why won't you empower me!!!"

And no wonder, when the philosophy they embrace defines being a victim as the highest good. People seek to be good, and if you teach them that being good is being a victim, they will devote their energies not to improving their own standing and achieving their dreams, but rather to proving that they are, in fact, a victim. This leads only to "oppression Olympics," where different historical out-groups fight amongst themselves over who is the most oppressed, and meanwhile the straight, white men they vilify continue to run the world -- because those straight, white men are the only ones actually expressing any interest in running it.

The modern feminist engages constantly in pointless, aggravating and irritating actions that only serve to make feminism increasingly irrelevant. Examples would include silly, incomprehensible and pointless forms of protest such as "Slut Walks," censorship campaigns to ban Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" (a song that literally has nothing to do with rape), and idiotic complaints about Barbie.

I don't expect this to change any time soon, nor do I expect women to make any significant advances as a class, until the slave-morality of feminism is set aside and a new philosophy, a philosophy of the Uberfrau, develops to take its place.

[–]CaptainSqueak[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

I hate how the extreme feminists completely ruin people's views on feminism as a whole, like, you know that video on the front page?

I was watching it and I thought the son, who is at the door is like normal rational feminists, who stand for equality and rights for all, where as the Mother is like the extreme feminists who just shout and are ignorant. The way that everyone focuses on the mom while the son is ignored and viewed as crazy too is basically the same as feminism.

Also, I am not feminist or anti-feminist or anything, so you know.

[–]AndreNowzick 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

you don't need to be a feminist to stand for equality and rights for all. There's no need for feminism in America considering women are equal and have the same rights as men do if not more.

[–]aperfectmentlegen2 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yup, if you just want straight equality you're egalitarian, it's the definition of the word in fact.

[–]Emergencyegret -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, you can be both. There are a lot of overlapping principles. Through concerted efforts though, one term just sounds icky to some people.

[–]aperfectmentlegen2 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

True, but the terms are not synonymous. I happen to be an egalitarian who is also a feminist and an MRA, people never know how to take that. I just want everyone to be happy.

[–]Emergencyegret 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, it's weird. I agreed with a lot of what the MRA's had to say only on certain topics, but I found the more vocal portion of the group to be obnoxious. I agreed with a bunch of what feminists had to say, but I found that the more vocal anti feminists made it a point to spread as much of the crazy feminist speech as possible and it only made me more unhappy with anti-feminists and the MRA group.

I agree that egalitarian seems like a great POV to have, andI find that I identify more with that title, but I have way more sympathy for the feminist cause than the MRA cause that doesn't align with "non-crazy feminism".

[–]AlphaWookie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate how the extreme feminists completely ruin people's views on feminism as a whole...

Feminism has never had a good image, there is a reason for this namely its toxic ideology.

[–]Andy1_1 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

"I'm far from anti equality" that word equality is meaningless for a species that is sexually dimorphic. Men are clearly better at some tasks, women at others. The ideologies of these kindergarten thinking social justice warriors is painful to watch/read.

[–]wiztard 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

When people talk about equality in this type of context, they don't mean to say that we are all the same. They mean that as a society we should treat people as equally valued and give them the same respect and appreciation despite their differences.

Of course no one thinks we are all completely same. It's kind of absurd that you would even think that people mean that.

[–]broadcasthenet 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Depending on the tasks at hand everyone is not equally valued though.

[–]TheMooseOfMight -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm a bit scared at where this sounds like it's going, please explain what you mean by that. I'm really just curious not trying to start shit.

[–]broadcasthenet 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's just common sense that not everyone is equally as suited for every task. Saying everyone is valued equally at all times is just absurd.

[–]defenestratious 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's scary? It's common sense in a lot of aspects.

I'm going to hire a bouncer. I need someone who's physically strong, able to take a punch or two, and also keep a cool head when things are going down. I'll interview any woman who wants the job, but she's got an uphill battle to prove that she's the right hire. I can't see most people, but particularly women wanting that job.

Now, I'd like to hire a dress model for a company whose bread and butter is prom dresses. Could I hire a guy for that job? Absolutely. Would I be handicapping myself in the process? Probably. I've got nothing against a dude who wants to put on something pretty and if they want to buy my client's dresses that's even better.

But come on.

[–]PicklePicker3000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes just so everyone knows. These are what we call the "3rd wave". These are the people that tear down the very fabric that is feminism. These people clearly make feminism look like a joke and are seriously stunting actual feminists work. These are not actual feminist ( I know I'm sounding redundant ) but let it be known.

[–]GrandmaCore 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But you can advocate for men's rights and be taken seriously?

[–]stunts002 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

On a university campus especially people should be disagreeing for Christ's sake.

[–]hymen_destroyer -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's my take. legally men and women are equal. The first wave of feminism established their basic human rights, and the second wave levelled the playing field, and now the government recognizes men and women as absolute equals.

But there is still inequality (or at least the perception of inequality) manifested as the "wage gap" and the difficulty women have breaking into certain professions. However, legally these discrepancies don't exist. So what we conclude is that there is a social inequality rather than a legal one, and the only way to rectify that is to change how people think. And this is, believe it or not, far more difficult than changing a legal framework. It is possible, but some people who take on the mantle of "feminist" are incapable of the sort of discourse that is required to change people's minds in a positive way, so they resort to attempting to denigrate and marginalize those who they feel are standing in the way of "equality". The funny (or sad, depending on how you look at it) thing is, they are alienating some of their would-be allies who recognize that sexism is a double-edged sword, and that true equality should be a collaborative effort that should alter how we perceive both sexes, rather than bending over backwards to accomodate the "weaker" one. They don't want equality, they want their version of equality, which is to turn back the clock on gender roles, only now with women in charge instead.

the mudslinging and obstructionism by these folks is what they feel is their best weapon against the patriarchy, but really they are doing more damage to their cause than anything by carrying on in such a fashion

[–]1manparty 48ポイント49ポイント  (1子コメント)

"The police are coming? You mean real world consequences for our immature childish half assed actions? My gender studies textbook didn't prep me on this! Com'on guys lets get out here before the SS oppress us for our heroic views."

[–]lowrads 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Notice that they only show an iota of civility to someone with a monopoly on the use of force and coercion.

In their worldview, those whom they perceive as vulnerable, damaged or weak constitute valid targets. They operate on the same target selection principles as bullies, the mafia or terrorists.

In their philosophy, they fundamentally reject the basic equality of people. It wouldn't even be astute to say that they embrace equality of outcomes over any facultative capacity. They genuinely reject all of that in favor of a tedious pecking order. Their goals are anti-humanistic and stand athwart those of the enlightenment.

[–]OH_ITS_MEGACRUNCH 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Okay guys, when the speaker mentions women, you blow your whistle and shake tat noise maker while I yell our chant, it's gonna be great"

"But Janet, if we're making all this obnoxious noise while you're yelling, how are people going to understand what you're saying?"

"Shut up Margaret, you don't have my creative mind."

[–]mf_dooom 43ポイント44ポイント  (10子コメント)

[–]RubberDong 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

lol...that poor woman on the picture is probably from some stock image.

[–]MoocowR 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

That poor woman is the one who said those things.

[–]RubberDong 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

fuck that poor woman then

[–]JBrad0322 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

She wants you to.

Or maybe she doesn't.

She wants both but also wants to complain about both.

[–]CassiusTheDog 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Schrodinger's feminist?

[–]Tovora 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She wants you to want her, but she also wants to reject you for wanting her.

[–]bullettbrain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I did not believe this was real until I visited the site myself. Holy hell what a hypocrite.

[–]ck_white 62ポイント63ポイント  (3子コメント)

I AM LOUDER THAN YOU SO I AM RIGHT!!!!

[–]Eoiny 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the tag line from the O'Reilly Factor.

[–]Scottfra 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

shake shake shake

[–]Quizzelbuck 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shake you booootay! Shake yo booootay!

[–]hankjmoody 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just as a side note, that officer at the end was extremely professional. Kudos to him.

[–]Odojas 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously. That guy understood exactly how to deescalate.

[–]wtfm8fromdownunda 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Was that Moss from the IT Crowd? How the hell did he get roped into this?

[–]flopsweatgenerator 29ポイント30ポイント  (27子コメント)

As a man who has been run over by an ex-wife via the american justice system, this is shocking!! MGTOW makes so much sense. I hope all of these women have sons so they will have to face their own bullshit. The men in these videos are so young and naive. I think they just show up to get attention from women they wouldn't be able to get otherwise.

[–]Wargame4life 26ポイント27ポイント  (5子コメント)

I hope all of these women have sons so they will have to face their own bullshit

i dont look, what happened to Julie burchill's son

she wrote this:

I know. But I can't help feeling they're on very dodgy ground, taking on the young male suicide thing. For a start, it's a phony panic, catering to that lowest of modern male desires - to be a victim" "That young men succeed in suicide more often than girls isn't really the point. Indeed, the more callous among us would say that it was quite nice for young men finally to find something that they're better at than girls."

and guess what her own son killed himself and she considers HERSELF the victim (didnt go to his funeral) and in her own words:

'Finally I peeled his drowning fingers off of me and saved myself,

if she was my mother i would have killed myself long ago too.

toxic batshit feminists ruin peoples lives, i pity any son who is born in a household with them.

[–]fafasamoa 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Julie burchill has had her head up her own arse all her life , NME has alot to answer for giving her that gig .

[–]Noocracy_Now 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've never heard of this Julie Burchill person. But now she say's she "Should have tried harder to help my suicidal son." Apparently the kid had mental issues and a drug addiction.

Not defending her actions, and since both of her sons from 2 failed marriages ended up living with the father I'm guessing she's not a model mother.

[–]blue_2501 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not defending her actions, and since both of her sons from 2 failed marriages ended up living with the father I'm guessing she's not a model mother.

Yeah, if you're a woman, you have to really fuck up hard to have the father end up with your kids.

[–]cajunFAITH 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I pity any man who impregnates a feminist.

[–]satansasshole 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only thing that keeps me sane is knowing that someday that cunt will come to realize that she killed her own son. Then hopefully she will attempt to join him in heaven before being sent straight to fucking hell.

[–]SnatchTease 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

3rd wave feminists are all about men being beta males... until they get horny

[–]Mozgus 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

You ever notice how small and frail feminist men are these days? I think that says a lot.

[–]flopsweatgenerator 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

I saw a guy with a hippopotamus this weekend wearing a pro-choice, pro-feminist tank top t-shirt. He probably weighed 110 lbs soaking wet and his girlfriend had to have him doubled. She tried to take my seat at a concert and my girlfriend who knows how to treat me told her that she couldn't have my seat. The femboy stood there and didn't know what to do. He couldn't even look me in the eye. He was truly through the other side and was fully committed to being this hamplanet's bitch. DOWN WITH THE PATRIARCHY.

[–]SpawnQuixote 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Organic wannabe hippy single moms are feeding their kids soy milk and turning them into manlets.

[–]troxn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a worthless manlet and I drank regular milk

[–]Mozgus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm the last guy to mock any ladies for being fat. I feel like there's pros and cons to all sizes, within reason. Being only 5'10" but a stocky 168lbs, I've dated a pretty wide spectrum of weight classes, from 95lbs to 220lbs, but even with the big girl, I demonstrated that I could still save her from a house fire, which led to some pretty hilarious and morbid scenario building.

But I agree, I see that pairing of sizes very often with these types. It seems like many of those feminists grew up as "unfuckable" and then in turn decided to take claim over some beta male to keep as a pet, and take her frustrations out on. Never underestimate most guys' willingness to forgo integrity for pussy.

[–]Wargame4life 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i would absolutely love to be in that situation and the femboy try and defend M'lady.

I would go straight from placid to my most threatening looking just to see how scared i could make him. i would even fake that i was on the verge of becoming violent or spoiling for a fight just to see how he reacted.

this isnt your "safe space hug box" now sunshine, you are in the real world now cupcake

[–]whozurdaddy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

They heel when told.

[–]Mozgus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's only day 1 training.

[–]ribati 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's called the pussification of males and it's spreading in North America like a virus

[–]whereismysafespace 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same crowd who mock those who'd want free speech on Reddit. /r/srs stalking and brigading IRL.

[–]roastbeeftacohat 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

if feminists want to gain greater public acceptance they need to actively disassociate from this sort of asshatery. This is why there is an anti feminism movement; I think it's largely misguided, but this is why it exists.

[–]Strappedforcash 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

There are few things worse than those fucking feminists.

[–]after31 41ポイント42ポイント  (12子コメント)

Because feminists do not want equality they want absolute and overruling power over men rights...

[–]thetimeplace 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like any other doctrine, there will be people who follow it blindly. Like the Bible or socialism. They get dug into their own dogma like a tick and can't be reasoned with.

So feminism is no different than cults or religions or other doctrines in that regard. when they start quoting chapter and verse at you as debate, you know you're talking to a dogmatist.

You are correct about this unfortunately with regards to how feminism has become today, but you do not need to be TOO concerned with feminism. Feminism is it's own worst enemy.

1) The majority of people in the US are moderate in their politics and heterosexual in their orientation. Heterosexual women do not like to have their men vilified. They have husbands, lovers, sons, fathers and brothers. They are perfectly aware of feminism's attempt to make men be viewed as evil and boys as broken. Feminism has gone too far to undermine the male experience and voice, and the backlash among heterosexual women is growing.

2) Feminism is imploding. No two feminists can agree on what feminism is, or what feminism should be doing. The angry men-hating lesbian few are its leaders and its loudest public voice. The second loudest group of feminists are transwomen who subconsciously want to destroy their inner man through undermining all 'remaining' men. Yet group A doesn't acknowledge group B's womanhood, since they were born male with all the privileges thereof. These two most vocal groups are pitted in a struggle to steer feminism's direction.

3) Feminism is becoming a joke to the regular populace. From the uproar over the Sleepwalker art at Wellesley, to the infantilization of women, to the vitriol with which it approaches men, it's losing women, and its losing public support.

4) Feminism is losing the public. With the crisis of false rape claims and false threat reports either made by feminist leaders or supported by feminism, as a movement it no longer has public trust. With horribly misandric campaigns like 'Teach Men Not to Rape' real people understand that women rape too, and that men are victims, and shake their heads in disbelief at its behavior.

5) Feminism has lost men. With a few male allies remaining, men are awakening to feminism's intention to direct them and their issues 'for their own good'. But they aren't buying into it, as men know best what they need to be men, and women know best what it means to be women. I am unsure if feminism thought that they could really pull the wool over mens' eyes when they tell them to 'let feminists handle equality, men don't have to do anything unless its under the banner of feminism'. And yet men are awakening to the idea that their own issues of Custodial Inequality, Educational Inequality, and Crime Penalty inequalities, and job injury/stress inequalities, should be addressed. But they'll do it themselves, thank you, since feminism is not only not tackling ALL inequality, but shouts down male issues as irrelevant.

People are already distancing themselves rapidly from feminism. Most homeless people are men. When a rational member of the public understands the challenges men face and that there are little to NO places for homeless men or abused men, or male rape victims or male victims of domestic violence, they don't reach for feminism to fix the male homelessness problem. When mothers see their boys falling behind in school across the board, and see there are no male teachers anywhere in their school district who understands teaching boys, and they awaken to the dire plethora of overdiagnoses of ADHD in the 1980s and 1990s made by female teachers who couldn't handle boys' natural activity levels, they don't reach for feminism to get the school to do right by their sons.

Men are not evil and boys are not broken. But that's a view in textbooks, colleges, and tumblr. It is not spreading tendrils into all of society; even after college feminists get a rude wake up call as they enter the workplace where they must treat men equally and can't find a 'safe space room' with playdoh and pillows in it beside the employee break room, to go coddle themselves over some imagined offense. There's already a great divide between feminism and the rest of the population. Only real equality will move our society forward, and real equality requires all people to have a seat and a voice at the equality table, and autonomy over their own issues. This must include men, or people reject it's authenticity as equality.

[–]OnSnowWhiteWings 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feminism is almost exactly like a religion. It has core beliefes, but some can offshoot like Mormonism does.

Feminism is basically a "betterment for women" and the latest feminist made a push to shoe horn in "and it's for men too".

The problem is, the mainstream says feminism = equality for all, but it's like Christians saying "Jesus loves homosexuals too" when in reality, there's a deep, biblical resentment towards them and some, if not most Christians despise homosexuals because their bible tells them so.

Much like radical feminists teach each other to hate men.

[–]JazinAdamz 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The two guys trying to get laid

[–]sayitinmygoodear 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

How desperate for some low grade crazy pussy must these men be to be dating these ignorant cunts? It looks just as stupid as a black guy cheering at a KKK rally.

[–]Overshadows 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Freedom of speech includes the opportunity to hear/listen to speech, not just to speak.

These jerks are getting in the way of others' ability to listen.

How about set up a booth outside so that you can share your view rather than silencing people you don't agree with. All you do is turn disagreement into hate.

[–]myusernameranoutofsp 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They aren't advocating freedom of speech. They're shutting down the talk, not allowing it on campus, it's closer to a militant action than a debate. If you compare the context to postering, it's not "let's make a better poster to convince more people", it's "let's take down their posters and put ours up instead".

[–]merrickx 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

How about set up a booth outside so that you can share your view...

like dis?

[–]dobbadobbadupe 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lemme guess, no true Scotsman excuse? "These aren't real _________!"

Yeah well suicide bombers are 100% of the time influenced by the nation of Islam, and Feminism is synonymous with self righteous cunts.

Clean house or take stereotypical lumps from people who are jaded from seeing the same thing happen continually.

[–]Bufferton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah well suicide bombers are 100% of the time influenced by the nation of Islam, and Feminism is synonymous with self righteous cunts.

By that logic, can't you then completely disregard any "Men's Equality Movement" given that some members are RedPill-esqe fanatics? Stereotypical lumps and all that?

[–]landsharkxx 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is the 3rd time I saw this on /r/videos gg

[–]judethedude 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

wow that link is purple for me wow

[–]CaptainSqueak[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Blame the reddit search feature

[–]cruduchat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

are they saying "SHAME"...GoT all day errday

[–]Jakenator1296 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd risk losing everything I've worked for so far to just beat the living fuck out of them. Man do I love justice.

[–]golokoyo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone should have turned around and done this until they stopped, then continued with the meeting.

[–]trose89 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The title should read "Assholes disrupt equality speech"

[–]Alienheadbaby 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is neither feminism nor activism. It is weak minded people using the thin veil of both to demand recognition while being nothing more than bullies.

[–]the-hell-man 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

So ... no true Scotsman?

[–]ThickPrick 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bunch of cunts if you ask me.

[–]RubixCubeDonut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're not cunts ; they lack the warmth and depth.

[–]Richardmg9 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

impressive

[–]bluntrollin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Censorship is the greatest form of tyranny. Your ideas are not worthy to be heard.

[–]doominabox1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They look like a bunch of board children

[–]amfoejaoiem 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The guy chanting "leave leave leave" reminded me of the lightning bolt guy from that old weird larping video.

[–]Wonce 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy crap. The secret word is WOMEN!

(3:17 in video above)

[–]rhabdoe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is primarily why I am currently anti-feminism. I never had a negative opinion on the movement BEFORE these women doing these radical disrespectful things that, in a whole, just make the rest of the right minded women look bad, plain and simple.

It's sad that these women truly believe they are advancing the cause, rather than voicing legitimate opinions in a respectful manner

[–]Carlzorx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Angsty misguided obnoxious teens.

Aren't the first, certainly wont be the last.

[–]time4b 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Holy shit I wanted someone to take that whistle and snap it. I don't understand how these people can't see they are exactly what they oppose by refusing people the right of free speech and opposite opinion.

[–]blast73 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What these people did wasn't very well thought out. I can't see any purpose that it served other than making them look bad. And I think MRAs are a joke so that's saying something

[–]coDEEZnuts 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How are you supposed to hear anything past the blow horn, the guy shaking his can, and whistling anyway...? Sick strat.

[–]BoogerSlug 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They literally act like children. Someone tells them something they don't like and they're unable to respond with actual thought or create any form of discussion. Instead they have a tantrum and cry hoping they'll get their way.

[–]Sarahmint 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had no idea MRA was an actual thing. I thought it was just a subreddit.

The guy took the first interruption pretty well. The second interruption was even more juvenile then the first and just goes to show to always be afraid of the power of stupid people in large numbers. If this is a feminist group, I feel bad for the true feminists of the past that had to wreck shit up just for the right to vote.

[–]meDeadly1990 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm impressed that she didn't had to take a single breath for 1 minute or so

[–]hgmartial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

(loud) im more annoyed that she made me turn my volume down. rude.

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[–]CrimsonEngage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

More like two faggots and some dumb bitch. Not one man there had any balls. I would have smacked all of them right across the damn face and not one person there would say a damn thing because i'd be doing them all a favor.

There is no such thing as equality. People need to get over themselves. You do dumb shit, you get slapped. Fuck you.

[–]Rils 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone please tell me that Women's Rights also has a perceived "too" on it.

[–]Stormhammer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

SO, idea here. To get in, you have to sign a waiver stating that if you are found to be interrupting, you will be tasered on site, as part of a social experiment.

[–]NotoriousHaze 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate it, I hate it so much.

[–]Orc_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

wow... Give me those 4 idiots and room for 10 minutes, I would bring soooo much pain.

[–]deckchair 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

its like you need to bring a firehouse to these meeting now.

[–]Mozgus -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am glad I know my lack of restraint well enough to not be at an event like this. If someone were blowing whistles and shit right in my face, there's no way I would get out of there without being arrested. Plus, the fact that I'd show unequal aggression towards the men with the whistles would only invalidate my presence at an equality event. The women would only have their whistles taken from them. The men would find their whistles up their assholes.

[–]Wargame4life 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

the secret is get them to strike you first and then "clean house"

[–]Mozgus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was essentially my entire school brawling career.

[–]Cheatshaman 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm quickly finding that 'Where's Tumblr' is a lot less fun than Where's Waldo, because they make themselves really obvious...

[–]Wargame4life 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

plus they tend to take up more space due to their HAES and have ridiculous circus hair

[–]copperball 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're not feminists they're poser female supremacists, the opposite of a human rights activist. Every fucking generation has posers, unfortunately this generation has the worst kind...posers of decent human beings.

[–]fafasamoa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The men who hang with these silly girls are just hoping for some table scrap virginia .

[–]stealthd -4ポイント-3ポイント  (10子コメント)

Calling these people feminists makes about as much sense as calling a rioter a protester. It's kind of disgusting how many people on reddit use this as an excuse to put down feminism as a whole.

[–]CaptainSqueak[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's why I put "asshole feminists" I don't want to portray all feminists like this.

[–]blue_2501 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are called SJWs.

[–]CrassHoppr1 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah if I called Elliot Rodger a Men's rights activist I doubt it would go over very well here..

[–]aurath 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would she call herself a feminist? Why should I believe you over her?

[–]brycedriesenga 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Couldn't you say the same things about Men's Rights activists and the hate they get?

[–]gogofromgamesports -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And when someone gets pissed off and punches them in the face, they'll get mad and say how their rights have been disrupted rofl. I understand them tho, they can't prove their point with words, so why not be a fucking kid about it.

[–]antigoodguy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ugh fucking hate these fucking cunts. Go to any college campus in the GTA you will run into some cunty students male and female protesting something and not fully understanding it

[–]byzzz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not surprised that the entire demographic from r/videos is sitting in there.

[–]Profkhaos23 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

equality is great.....feminism is a joke.

[–]DatMrRyan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i like how they started as soon as he said "women"

[–]Kng_Wasabi -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

It is worth pointing out that it wasn't just a speech on equality, it was a speech on men's rights. It was a reasonable speech, but it is still worth noting that it was a MRA speech. The protestors behavior was still unacceptable.

[–]alucidexit 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why is that worth noting? Does it make it somehow worse? Most of the people in the crowd just looked like they wanted to listen which is why I don't get why talks like these and the Farrell talks get so much hate. Why can't we just have a place to talk about dudes?

[–]Pabotron 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really juvenile

[–]leftinfreezer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is this different to a kid covering their ears and screaming "LALALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALA"

[–]denowak -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Stop calling these types of people, feminists.

Call them what they are: female supremacists

Feminism used to stand for something. Feminists used to mean strong women who could stand up for themselves. Instead, we now have weak minded female supremacists who can't get their own way so they resort to petty, childish behavior like this.

I encourage all of you to start using the term "female supremacists" to identify what has become a ridiculous movement of childish women.

[–]glockatized 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

People call them what they want to be called. It is unfortunate that they choose to identify themselves as feminists, as this tarnishes the name for the rest of feminists.

edit:reworded.

[–]myusernameranoutofsp -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except that's not what they advocate, you can look up the group, they're for equality, I think people here mainly disagree with their tactics.

[–]chrisboss1172 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's whistle blower was going for a long time wonder if she got light headed after a while? Maybe that's why they had to leave.

Also laughed when she flipped the bird at that one dude

[–]hankjmoody 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Full of hot air, maybe?

[–]GuiKa -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

These are just wannabe activists, they saw Gandhi or Milk and decided they wanted to "good" persons by fighting the "evil" in our society.

As a lot of women agree that being a man is better in our society, a lot of men thing the opposite. The grass is often greener on the other side.