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My view during the Bernie Sanders rally (i.imgur.com)

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[–]cajunaggie08Copperfield 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

UH should sign Bernie to the basketball team. This is the largest crowd Hofheinz has seen in years.

[–]midsprat123Missouri City 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

youch, that hits where it hurts. Hofheinz only fills up when we play UT, A&M

[–]GeauxHouston22Sugar Land 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

was relatively full for lsu-uh 2 seasons ago

[–]53595 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

The crowd emitted so much energy it manifested as balls of light. Impressive.

[–]rchalico 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

Pretty cool, do we know how many people were there?

[–]Jnk389Montrose 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

5,200 according to his Twitter

[–]sprice5Downtown 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do we know how many redditors were there?

[–]ijarritos 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was in "the pit" http://i.imgur.com/QH2xgzA.jpg

[–]Ttujohn 13ポイント14ポイント  (35子コメント)

I don't think I will ever understand the Reddit obsession with Bernie Sanders

[–]amendmentforoneCypress 42ポイント43ポイント  (11子コメント)

Younger liberal audience that is appealed to by populist campaigns. Mix in some libertarians who are curious but not really sold on his policies. On Reddit, there's pretty much a massive Sanders echo-chamber, pumped up by any news article that states anything positive about the Senator. This results in Sanders-related posts being spread well beyond /r/politics and /r/sandersforpresident.

[–]zimm3rmannEx Houstonian 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't see how any actual libertarian would consider Sanders. I think he may genuinely want to do the right thing unlike some other politicians, but every bit of his economic philosophy is contrary to libertarianism.

[–]sfw63 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

i figure him being super socialist automatically contradicts him with libertarians

[–]BigDowntownRobot 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Attempting to find a candidate who agrees with everything you do and is also trustworthy, rigorous, etc is pretty tough.

I'll take integrity and fairness over just about any other quality in politics, even though I don't agree with lots of his ideas those two things give me more faith than any amount of "promises" from other candidates.

Also the fact that he's a loud mouth is great, I would love to see someone come into office and be honest about the levels of corruption there. I think he's crazy enough to bring some things to light others wouldn't.

[–]_nate_higgers 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Libertarian here. I don't support sanders at all. A hand full of people in the libertarian community people do for a few reasons. A big reason is that he is not Jeb or Hillary. They know that he won't get anything done if he's president. He doesn't want foreign wars and his social policy isn't as bad as Hillary or Jeb. He also doesn't play the politics game which gets a lot of respect from libertarians. Another big reason is that he seems like a genuinely good person.

[–]amendmentforoneCypress 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're absolutely correct. I've just heard from, and read comments from, libertarians who are curious but ultimately don't agree with his policies.

[–]asfasdfasdfadsafad 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well on a lot of social issues, he agrees with Libertarians. Also, he is fairly isolationist and wants us out of foreign wars, fairly in line with the Ron Paul libertarian platform.

Although he isn't lining up with the libertarian party line on every issue, there is a lot of crossover.

Rand Paul and Bernie Sanders probably agree on more stuff than they disagree on.

[–]tedwurds 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not wanting foreign wars doesn't make you an isolationist...

[–]HoolywoodDingus 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh yeah, I remember back in the thirties when all of those damn Populists campaigns were floating around. Good thing I've got better sense than these fucking 19 year olds now who never saw Huey Long and FDR stumping.

[–]GandalfsWrinklyBalls 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can't tell if you like fdr or not

[–]HoolywoodDingus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That fucking Populist wouldn't know a hammerhead from a prickly pear. Don't get me started on that Pappy O'Daniel character. What with his traveling capitol dome giving all the well-meaning rural folk the runaround. Nope, fool me once, blame those damn Populists. Fool me twice, blame the Prussians that's what I always say. Real shame that these young whippersnappers don't know a damn Populist when they see one.

[–]pawsforbear 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because Hillary is a joke of a democrat.

[–]HoolywoodDingus 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He doesn't accept super PAC money and his campaign is funded by small donations. The easiest way to tell how a candidate will act once in office is to look at his major contributors. Also, he has a long history of successfully crossing the aisle in Congress and he probably knows everyone in Washington DC. I don't claim to know whether socialism is a better economic system than whatever mixed bag we've got going right now, but I can trust that this guy is going to go about his job honestly and with the best interests of the labor class in mind.

[–]cityofkern 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

he's the only real democratic candidate.

[–]paramajik 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Millennials that are enamored with socialism.

[–]illegal_deagleMontrose 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Socialist policies doesn't necessarily mean implementing full-blown socialism. The wealth gap in this country is at its worst in a very long time and widening every day. Big banks have ruined a lot of people and yet nobody went to jail and the regulations to prevent it from happening again are being slowly repealed. We spend more per capita on healthcare and see the worst results of the developed world. Millions of people are "working poor," and are therefore a burden on the welfare system anyway because real wages keep falling. Bernie is the only person aggressively addressing these issues. He won't win, but it's important that he be given a voice in the process so that Democrats will eventually implement the change he wants to make.

[–]GeauxHouston22Sugar Land 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The wealth gap

I feel like with Sanders, this is the only issue he ever talks about or makes out to be a big deal. I like him based on that issue alone, but I'd need to hear how he feels about some other stuff too

[–]weebx 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Instead of using a weak straw man argument to diminish a candidate, why don't you give an actual reason for disliking Bernie Sanders and why your preferred candidate is better.

[–]Ttujohn 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

I have no reason to dislike him and my preferred candidate has no bearing on wondering why so many people here are crazy about him.

The majority of the posts about him are "OMG the energy," or how crowded a venue is or vague references to his great new ideas. That sounds to me like every single presidential political event, yet his one event in Houston has 4 current posts on the frontpage of r/Houston.

[–]arickpAlief 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Meh, it's not just Reddit though. Even the article in the Guardian had an article about the big turnout and it was the second leading story (after Sandra Bland) on KTRK last night. Pretty cool for a presidential candidate to pay attention to Houston (and especially cool that he went here instead of Austin :-P)

[–]AnUrbanGardner 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The big reason that everyone is talking about "the energy" is because Sanders' isn't seen as a candidate with a serious chance and yet he has a strong support/showing.

It's less "Bernie is so amazing" and more "a huge chunk of democrats like what he's saying and this will clearly influence the final race".

[–]weebx -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then you, sir, are a negative nancy.

[–]zimm3rmannEx Houstonian -5ポイント-4ポイント  (11子コメント)

People like free things without understanding the economics behind it. People like Sanders promise free things, these people show up. I can't believe Reddit is actually obsessed with a socialist either, because government has done such a good job with everything else in the past /s

[–]Astro_ZombieSugar Land 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Guess who else loves free things. Banks.

[–]illegal_deagleMontrose 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

Free things? We pay more for things like healthcare in a fucked up roundabout way than any other country and the quality of it is the worst. We pay for the crime and welfare dependency of the working poor. Bernie isn't promising free, he's promising smarter spending on what we already pay for.

[–]zimm3rmannEx Houstonian -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Glad you mentioned Healthcare. I think the biggest problem with our current system is the outrageous cost set between hospitals and insurers. Without addressing the root cause of healthcare costs being so outrageously high you're just distributing that high cost over everyone. If healthcare was actually a free market you would see competition to lower prices.

[–]illegal_deagleMontrose 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Healthcare is not, has never been, and can never be based on a free market. You know why? Because a free market is based on rational economic choices and clear risk vs reward paradigms.

You will never see that in healthcare because it's literally life or death - and you'll definitely never see it in US healthcare because of our particular constant need to delay the inevitable.

This hodgepodge of Medicaid/Medicare/insurance/employers/government/etc is an absolute fucking mess because there are too many cooks in the kitchen. You don't even have to take my word for it, just look at literally every other developed country in the world to see socialized medicine save both money and lives.

[–]utchemfan 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Look at any other civilized country. A single payer system controls costs very effectively.

[–]zimm3rmannEx Houstonian 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

"I'm afraid you have incurable lung cancer."

"Can you give me any drugs to prolong my life?"

"I'm afraid not. The NHS can't afford them. Lung cancer patients, in particular, are a low priority."

"Can I pay the NHS to give me these drugs?"

"I'm afraid not. That would be illegal. You can obtain them if you have private health care. Do you have private health care?"

"No. I can't afford it. A large part of my lifetime income has been spent on tax and national insurance to provide me with cradle-to-grave health care. I guess I'll have to start making crystal meth."

"There isn't enough latent demand for crystal meth in the UK to make it worthwhile."

"Damn it."

"You're going to die. There's a 70 per cent chance you'll be dead within a year. Unlike the US, which has the highest cancer survival rates in the world, rates in Britain are very low, particularly for lung cancer."

"Aw, man."

[–]utchemfan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So why is there near universal support for the NHS in Great Britain?

[–]Libertarian_Bro -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Free college on the backs of taxing speculation. You just lied straight through your teeth or conveniently didn't pay attention to that part of his speech.

[–]illegal_deagleMontrose 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You know most every other developed country does it this way and it costs everyone a lot less? Do you think it's a good thing for the economy to disincentivize education? And we used to pay a lot more, percentage-wise, out of our tax dollars for this. Pell Grants used to cover 3/4 of tuition. Today it's more like 1/4, and the tuition itself has increased exponentially.

[–]Libertarian_Bro -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand the theory behind it, but to say he's NOT there offering free stuff is still wrong.

[–]arickpAlief 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My turn? http://imgur.com/a/kH3gy

[–]bigmac80 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm so relieved he had such a great turnout in Houston. He's got a lot of great ideas, and we desperately need someone like him in office as soon as possible.

[–]OldWestHero -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had to miss this dealing with my nephews. How was it?

[–]not4urbrains -5ポイント-4ポイント  (5子コメント)

I really want him to beat Hillary in the primaries, because the general election would be a cakewalk for any Republican except for maybe Donald Trump or Rand Paul.

[–]robsmasher 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's what we said about Romney and McCain/Palin.

[–]not4urbrains 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Romney and Palin were both terrible candidates, which is why I included the caveat about Trump and Paul.

[–]loserfame 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

So what republic candidate do you see as a good candidate at this point in time? Because honestly Rand Paul is the only republican candidate I would even consider voting for.

[–]not4urbrains -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a fan of Bush, Walker, and Cruz right now, but the debates haven't even started yet. I like Rand Paul on some issues, but his foreign policy stance makes him unelectable.