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[–]TurnshroudPresident Raiko is literally Sozin 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yesterday, /u/askhistorians_ss asked about the history of /r/badhistory. This is probably due to people saying this like "is this /r/badhistory?" "I saw this on /r/badhistory," and "how reliable is /r/badhistory?"

That said, I have a bit more than a month to ready up everything for the move to the UP. Also I need to make money...and wait for FAFSA to get back to me. Finally sorted that out.

[–]DirishDesigner of Alien-built Pyramids 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fucking sexy. highly approve this post up.

I love that sub.

[–]TurnshroudPresident Raiko is literally Sozin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that was the bvest part

/r/subredditsimulator is the best

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bergkamp is the one with red arse.

Teeheehee

[–]taylororo 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

James Loewens of Lies My Teacher Told Me has been taking a torch to Lost Cause history over at The History News Network, like he's Professor William T. Sherman (the T stands for Motherfuckin').

 

What should Charleston do with John C. Calhoun?

 

Every year that he dominates Marion Square, every year that Calhoun Street remains named for him, Charleston declares on its landscape that he was a hero worthy of honor. That declaration insults every black resident and every white resident who does not believe that treason on behalf of slavery made moral or political sense then or now.

 

Why Do People Believe Myths about the Confederacy? Because Our Textbooks and Monuments Are Wrong.

 

History is the polemics of the victor, William F. Buckley allegedly said. Not so in the United States, at least not regarding the Civil War. As soon as Confederates laid down their arms, some picked up their pens and began to distort what they had done, and why.

 

It's Time to De-Confederatize "The American Pageant": An Open Letter to David Kennedy

 

It isn't easy to quote the "Declaration of the Immediate Causes" at this length without mentioning slavery, because it comes back to slavery over and over. Let's investigate how you manage this feat.

 

What Does Rockville, Maryland's Confederate Monument Tell Us About the Civil War? About the Nadir? About the Present?

 

Has Montgomery County reached a level of justice in the present that it can now tell the truth about its past?

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was a thread about the Confederate monument in /r/Seattle a few days ago, and it was pretty bizarre. Apparently a whole bunch of Confederate sympathizers live in Seattle. Is it because the PNW is full of douchey right-wing libertarian tech bros?

[–]8BallTigerInvest in confederate Bonds, the South will rise again! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Speaking of Calhoun. My university has a Calhoun mansion operating as a museum, which is required by law. And there has been a bit of controversy of the silent Sam monument at Chapel Hill but I believe that one is specific to UNC students so I'm generally ok with that

[–]websterandy42All part of the Air-Nomad conspiracy. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes!

My favorite history teacher back in HighSchool had us read LMTTM the summer before her class, I remember the flood of second opinion endorphins like it was yesterday.

[–]pasunthrowaway 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

I recently argued on /r/France with someone who really believe that the reasons why the West got so powerful were geography(Jared Diamond) and genetics. Something like Chinese people were ruled by a class litterate gentry so they became genetically obediant. The whole thread was sickening but this was the worst (and most upvoted) answer.

I tried to debunk this by showing his sources (Jared Diamond and a shady biology book written by a journalist) were junk but he wouldn't admit he was wrong, because he was just being pluralist, listening to everybody. Except he only talked about his nonsense and not the real theories. Oh and of course his libertarian sources were acceptable, but Marxist historiography not real, because it's partisan .

I also had a guy telling me everything about China that I leant in college was false. I dug a little bit and found out he was a Jew that believed the Torah was litteral historic facts. And that Europeans talked about "the Indies" because there were several states in India, and that singular "India" was something of a conspiracy the modern Indian state created to make everybody forget about Pakistan, and its divided past. Oh and Alexander and the Achaemenids ruled India.

I'm so tired of looking at right-wing stem guys making fun of History and social sciences in general. I need a drink.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

Something like Chinese people were ruled by a class litterate gentry so they became genetically obediant.

What does that even mean? I mean, didn't Europeans live in strictly hierarchic societies until comparatively recently?

[–]FeragornTime Traveling Space Jew 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

No clue but that goes past Social Darwinism into the territory of Social Lamarckianism.

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We need to account for the epicultural effects!

[–]pasunthrowaway 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

This whole thing reeked of "I believe I know two things about non-European civilisations, so they must be the explanation". He also says that geography makes China united because rivers, and Europe divided because mountains. That and proselytising Abrahamic religions fosters that sweet competition, but Christianity is even better because science.

I reread this damned thing and he litterally said "This race of civil servants' values influenced society and people became genetically obediant to the stat's authority". Because you know, there were experiments on mice so humans must work exactly the same way as lab animals. He then said that Silicon Valley's geeks were also becoming a race, and concluded this part with "maybe we our Arabs won't assimilate because people want to live with genetically similar people"

He said that other "cultures, ,or psychology due to genome" to did not catch up because Asians are "calm and obediant", and so not prone to capitalism. But then they're disciplined enough to copy the West and become good workers, while the others can not. This is not the end of his post but then he goes on to talk about post-colonial Middle East history and I know less about it. Like he says Vietnamese people are proud because they expelled the French/Americans/Chinese but the Algerians have pride issues because the French merely "chose to leave"

At this point, refuting every single one of his mistakes would take hours, he wouldn't listen. Meanwhile his piece of art was the most upvoted post on the subreddit this day, and several guys were "Oh god thanks for this post, if I had gold I would give it to you".

If it was in English it would be worthy of a /r/badhistory post, but I guess at this point I don't want to translate it, I just want to forget.

edit : oh god I did not see the other post where he says blacks in America are in prison because genetics.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I speak French, let me try. I need to finish a long R5 about the Mng that I've been delaying for a while, but maybe I'll do this first when I have the time.

[–]pasunthrowaway 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

https://www.np.reddit.com/r/france/comments/3dk2n9/je_viens_dun_pays_en_d%C3%A9veloppement_et_jai/

There. I know my rebuttal is pretty weak but I was just shaken and wanted them to just leave history alone.

[–]DsagjiiggsScjjigsjsb一柱亭亭獨立時/ 狂瀾怒觸未曾欹/ 誰言東魯斯文喪/贏得千秋永賴之 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So preliminary thoughts

L'Afrique est bourrée de moustiques et de maladies qui tuent même la population locale !

Alright, that's true. It has been long accepted that African urbanism was hindered by malaria, which increases in proportion to intensive agriculture.

La Chine s'est fondé sur une grande plaine entre deux fleuves, ce qui se prête à la création d'un État unique pour dominer. Cela forme une langue, une ethnie assez unifiée.

Even conceding this, and besides the fact that the Chinese Central Plain has several major languages and that "Chinese" is not "une langue," how come major Chinese technological advancements tend to match periods of unification and relative stability?

L'Europe est pleine de montagne ce qui mène à plein de royaumes de taille limitée

If European small kingdoms made Europe Number 1, what about Indonesia with its islands? South India?

L'islam est fondé par une dynastie de sultans et sans surprise l'islam dit qu'il faut une obéissance aveugle à Dieu et donc au monarque représentant de dieu sur Terre.

Islam making people have "blind obedience" is pretty clearly bullshit and Muhammad did not found a "dynasty of sultans."

La "race des fonctionnaires" a déteint sur la société et les gens sont devenus génétiquement obéissant à l'autorité de l’État.

fuck no, im not reading more

[–]taylororo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He said that other "cultures, ,or psychology due to genome" to did not catch up because Asians are "calm and obediant"

God, I wish some had told my wife this.

[–]_sekhmet_Lincoln fired Fort Sumter at the Confederate cannon balls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the guy might be going back to the old racist stereotype of Asianen and women being weak, submissive, and passive.

[–]belgarion90Graduated summa cum laude, Total War University 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Went to a drive-on movie Saturday and got mosquito bites pretty much everywhere that was covered with clothes. Especially my back. What. The. Fuck.

[–]ParkSungJunRebel without a lost cause 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I gave notice last week and I have been busy writing procedures ever since.

God hates me.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

I went to watch Charlotte's Web (not the animated version) on a screen in the park with some friends. I don't understand this movie. At the end (spoiler alert), Charlotte dies, but she tries to comfort Wilbur by saying that everything has it's time, for everything a season, yadda yadda yadda. The problem is, though, that the whole movie is about this spider defying the natural order of things and ensuring that this pig survives beyond his time. I'm confused as to what the message of the film is. Is it that everything has its time? Or that death is bad? It's contradictory!

For that matter, the live action Charlotte's Web is baffling on a setting level too. It's the most 1950s-esque thing I have ever seen in my life. Everyone goes to church obsessively, and when writing appears in a spider web, everyone from the priest to the mayor to the local psychiatrist says it's clearly a miracle from God. Which is great, I suppose, but I don't understand how no one looks at this and says "Hang on, spiders can't write, and that web is impractical because no one ever caught flies in the words 'some pig.'" Also, in the whole movie, there is a grand total of one black person, and I admit, that might have been me mis-seeing something at some point.

It's not a very good movie. I don't understand Charlotte's Web.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

that web is impractical because no one ever caught flies in the words 'some pig.'"

I'm sure plenty of people told the Wright Brothers that they couldn't fly too.

It clearly wasn't that pig's time yet, as the spider kept putting it off. Everything is pre-ordained. Free will is an illusion. Charlotte is a Calvinist.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

But the movie made it very clear that there had never been a spring pig that had seen the winter snows! If that's not a natural order to things that this spider is disrupting, I don't know what it is.

Plus, there's the fact that Charlotte was more than happy to let other pigs die and the geese have their babies sold. She seems incredibly mercenary about this whole "goodness of her heart" thing.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

There had never been a man on the moon before Michael Collins came along either. Just because something's never happened before doesn't mean it can't happen.

Those pigs and geese were sinners and their place was always going to be the threefold fires of hell.

[–]tobbinatorFrancisco Franco, Caudillo de /r/Badhistory 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never seen the film, but I distinctly remember having to read the damn book several times in primary school.

[–]eongeAlexander Hamilton was a communist. 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fuck you summer. 90+ degrees twice already.

GIVE ME MY OVERCAST.

[–]40kfreak 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You don't happen to live in Portland do you

[–]eongeAlexander Hamilton was a communist. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seattle area.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm now on series 11 of Midsomer Murders and I've learned some very important lessons:

Never say "What are you doing here?" Such words only result in death.

Never take up golf, photography, bell-ringing, fly-fishing, painting, cricket, or any other light activity to pass the time. Such things only result in extra-grisly death.

It never rains in the English countryside.

[–]DirishDesigner of Alien-built Pyramids 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, despite advanced age, unfamiliarity with your house, or being not exactly the fittest person around, murderous burglars are frigging ninjas in your own house.

It doesn't matter if you know the place inside out and can navigate it blind-folded, the murder-ninja always finds that one place you don't look and moves like a ghost.

And for some reason trying to kill someone by making them fall down the stairs always works in murder mysteries.

[–]R_B_KazenzakisKra! I speak for the Downworlders 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Up yours robot.

Anyone see Ant-man this weekend? I did, it certainly didn't take itself seriously, which was great. Go see it.

I've been seeing a lot of Liberty Incident conspiracy theorists around Reddit lately, even in SRD. Is there some weird /pol/ campaign ongoing?

[–]DirishDesigner of Alien-built Pyramids 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was one of the 90,000 people attending the Bray Airshow yesterday. Once we managed to get there, it was great fun. I was especially excited to see the Hawker Hunter, the Mig 15, the Stearman PT13, and most of all the de Havilland Dragon. I love de Havilland's airplanes.

Of course the Patrouille Suisse was the most impressive team on display, and it was probably the last year they'll be flying in their F5Es before upgrading to F18s.

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

The joys of college house mates, while they may be cool people they are driving me crazy.

  • It takes them three days to do the dishes.

  • Leave empty pizza boxes around for weeks sometimes with moldy pizza in them.

  • Pay rent late.

  • Fail to communicate leaving guests sitting on the front porch for close to an hour.

Cannot wait to return to the dorms.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It takes them three days to do the dishes.

That's twice as fast as me and my roommates back in college. Count yourself lucky.

[–]40kfreak 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm leasing with 2 people this academic year, they have these grandiose plans about throwing parties and building a smoker but I guarantee it will end up like this

[–]_sekhmet_Lincoln fired Fort Sumter at the Confederate cannon balls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leave empty pizza boxes around for weeks sometimes with moldy pizza in them.

What kind of fools leave left over pizza uneaten? No broke college student I know would do this.

[–]pittfan46 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey all

I went to Wisconsin for the weekend, my family drove from new york, picked me up in Pittsburgh , and we spent maybe a day there. It was really good to see all my brothers, but I had to do a lot of driving and didn't really sleep.

Now I'm at the pool haha. Alone again. Fun stuff.

I gotta get a doctor's appointment for cityyear, which kinda sucks.

I saw ant man,I liked it. It was a bit silly tho

Anything big I missed on reddit this past weekend?

[–]alynnidalarThere needs to be cooked is the rice. - /u/badhistory_ss 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Survived one week of training at work... four to go.

My shoulders are quite sunburned and my shirt's driving me nuts, but I think my workplace (and society at large) would disapprove of me ripping my clothes off and wandering around naked, so I will just have to suffer silently.

In thirteen minutes I'm going to have to go run a coordination meeting for a process about which I know practically nothing, so basically the week is starting off splendidly.

Oh, and I started watching DBZ Kai, after finishing Dragon Ball a week ago. I sort of accidentally got addicted to the thing. I'm a little surprised to realize that actual Vegeta is almost as entertaining as Abridged Vegeta, and like twelve times more genocidal.

[–]viralmysteriesThe SS didn't even give me a waffle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Starting reading American Spring by Walter Borneman at a friend's reccomendation. I'm liking it so far; it's an in depth look at the experiences of the people of the 13 Colonies throughout 1775 as the Revolution kicked off. Lots of primary sources, I'm looking forward to it.

[–]FeragornTime Traveling Space Jew 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Finished Knights of Sidonia, the hype was brought. Armada won Melee singles at Evo, ;_; RIP Mango, the dream was real. Hungrybox played his ass off. I want to get into Discworld. Where do I start? I've read some Granny Weatherwax stories, but that's it.

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hope there's a KoS Season 3. There's certainly enough material and plenty of demand, since the manga just won an award.

Actually, you should read the manga. They're close to the final climax right now, and it's more awesome than anything that was animated so far.

[–]FeragornTime Traveling Space Jew 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, I binged the manga over the weekend. I think Nihei said he wants a third season, too.

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol, we were probably binge reading the manga at the exact same time.

[–]Crow7878When your hand becomes steel, there is nothing you can't punch. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Something I've wanted to hear from the volcano worshippers with higher lava-levels than me is actually non-specific badhistory, by which I mean general mistakes that tend to pop-up. I already know about perceiving scientific development as a tech tree, but I am wondering if there are any other examples of non-specific badhistory?

[–]BhangbhangducAbraham Lincoln: Not a Communist, but #1 with the Communists. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Watching Indiana Jones 4 right now. It's not bad - I even kinda like Mutt Williams - probably he's my favorite Shia Labeouf character.

It's not the best movie ever, but it's still good.

[–]Sarge_WardOfficial Subreddit Historian: Harry Turtledove History 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay guys, as my flair suggests, I'm all open to any questions any of you might have about the history in some of Harry Turtledove's books. Think of this as an impromptu Askhistorians, but for the work of an alternate history novelist. And this time I PROMISE to actually answer the questions given (sorry to that guy who's question I never answered because I accidentally canceled my reply after being halfway through writing a wall of text and just gave up.)

Please note that many of my sources will be the Turtledove wiki, which I find is mostly reliable (aside from the section about Jake Featherston and the Simpsons)

[–]_sekhmet_Lincoln fired Fort Sumter at the Confederate cannon balls 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm so tired I actually started to cry when part of my work project didn't save. My entire body feels so exhausted. The idea of doing that work again is just too much right now. It's like I haven't slept at all, and no matter what I do I just feel more tired. I haven't felt like this since I had mono last summer. Its if even drowsy, it's the "so tired I feel drunk" kind of tired.

[–]shannondoahAurangzeb hated music , 'cus a time traveller played him dubstep 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

Am I the only one grouchy at the bad state of Indian historiography/research on Hinduism and the political controversies,and the general media shit that goes along with it?

Also,here's a brand new red panda gif. What should I title it in /r/redpanda_gifs?

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

You're just jealous because you're a pseudo-secular imperialist pigdog. Duh.

[–]shannondoahAurangzeb hated music , 'cus a time traveller played him dubstep 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

"Why don't they eat beef to stop starving" doesn't even make logical sense. Meat is a highly inefficient food source compare to vegetables.

[–]shannondoahAurangzeb hated music , 'cus a time traveller played him dubstep 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

And apparently this was on NPR and American newspapers and shit?

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Journalism is an ailing field nowadays. They likely hired someone who didn't know much about India.

[–]shannondoahAurangzeb hated music , 'cus a time traveller played him dubstep 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also,in case you didn't notice that red panda gif,what should I title it? /u/Ibrey ?

[–]shannondoahAurangzeb hated music , 'cus a time traveller played him dubstep 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You also likely saw that thread that started from /r/Metaphysics,to /r/badComputerScience and spawned two threads in /r/badEasternPhilosophy?

[–]KaliYugazTenno Heika Banzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The modmail for that is hilarious.

[–]Spartacus_the_trollThe burning of the the Library of Alexandria was from an STD. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've now had badhistory mods tell me what to do in a dream.

I need to get out more.

[–]websterandy42All part of the Air-Nomad conspiracy. 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My week in Chicago was great. Lots of great ethnic food.

Now I'm wasting away at my parents house until the early August beach trip my friends and I are going on. Classes start so soon after that I might still be sobering up.

[–]8BallTigerInvest in confederate Bonds, the South will rise again! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My new method of procrastination on work/research is titanfall and it's awesome