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[–]beachbloke 110ポイント111ポイント  (4子コメント)

another type of content that is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it...

And then reddit was thought policed.

[–]1knitro 47ポイント48ポイント  (48子コメント)

Heres' the two parts which could most likely apply here by those looking to get trp removed:

Anything that harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people (these behaviors intimidate others into silence)

Similar to NSFW,another type of content that is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it, is the content that violates a common sense of decency. This classification will require a login, must be opted into, will not appear in search results or public listings, and will generate no revenue for Reddit.

The vagueness found here says to me it's a matter of how long from now, not if rp is history.

[–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 28ポイント29ポイント  (45子コメント)

It's being censored into darkness. It's like plastering over the doorway of a specific room in the house. The room still exists, but no one who's never been in the house before the cover up is gonna know. They will only hear of rumors that become more contorted and perverted with every personal transmission. Bluepillers, the majority of reddit, will define the narrative bounced inside the newly created echo chamber and TRP on reddit will become a mythical misogynistic monster along side greek mythology.

[–]WAFC 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

From what I gather, most people got here either through other parts of the manosphere or through seeing people bitch about TRP on reddit. So long as we exist, SRS and other groups of mouth breathers will hate us, and thus we will get our advertisement. And if we don't, so what? Maybe we'll miss out on some epic stories about how fucking a few drunk chicks made some guy feel totally alpha. We won't lose quality content from consistent content creators.

[–]Derbi50 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats exactly how I wound up finding this place. I was in a chitty chat board for Game of Thrones talking some evo psych and the whiners there were all like, "God that sounds like misogynist redpill stuff".

Truly any publicity is good publicity.

[–]an0n4btc 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I gather, most people got here either through other parts of the manosphere or through seeing people bitch about TRP on reddit.

Reddits random feature got me here; subscription numbers were well under 20,000 at the time so I missed out on the 'avoid this sub' drama.

I would have ended up a subscriber regardless, given I was a man who would research and draw his own conclusions on whatever piqued my interest rather than go with the flow (off topic, fun song to play in Rocksmith 2014).

I wonder if trp still comes up in random; would be nice if there was a way to check if there are any subs filtered from the random link.

EDIT Given the main thread topic; thank you to the mods for the hard work they do with this sub.

[–]BorMato 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

won't lose quality content from consistent content creators.

I agree with this very much. I feel as if red pill theory has become solidified and now we are in this land of personal anecdotes in combination with frequent high quality posters like /u/Archwinger .

[–]Sawagurumi 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I disagree. Yes, you often get lower quality content from newbies, while they are finding their feet. But who is to say that the greatest, most insightful, contributor is one who hasn't found us yet, and possibly not woken up at all yet?

[–]myredpillacc 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Imagine if Morpheus didn’t look for Neo.

[–]T34_B4991n5 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I found TRP with the random button.

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    [–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 1ポイント2ポイント  (33子コメント)

    I'm talking about reddit. Its banning will be publicized but after the initial downfall, the dust will settle. Of course we'll be kicking ideological ass from puerarchy.com.

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      [–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      We're gonna find out soon enough.

      [–]Sir_Shitlord_focker 2ポイント3ポイント  (28子コメント)

      What's wrong with pictures of young girls in swimsuits... if that's your thing I don't mind.

      Nothing to get sick over. Just more feminist shaming.

      [–]bandaker 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      To intimidate others into silence? Is that not what they are doing?

      [–]i_raid_planets 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It sounds as if they're moving to 're-classify' verboten topics and build a wall between the outcast communities and the rest of the site. As long as we're still around one way or another they can't shut up about us so the knowledge spreads.

      [–]Endorsed ContributorKill_Your_Ego 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There are high levels of censorship that go on in mainstream male divorce forums. Even just plain good advice that doesn't steal money from hard working fathers to give to the tyrannical divorce court system is erased. But the red pill is there. People will drop hard hints and talk about it in PMs. The infidelity boards are strongly red pill and most of the guys helping you have probably posted here at some point as well. It's just draining to try to help. And there are a lot of guys who are waking up. Just look at the growth of this sub.

      There's no stopping this because it's not some reddit board that is creating red pills and beaming them out into the internet. The red pill didn't create us. We created the red pill.

      You can't fight the truth forever. And why do that? Why live a fake life? Because it makes you happy? Well hey have you ever tried heroin? Got any money?

      [–]Sdom1 35ポイント36ポイント  (12子コメント)

      Again, are any of us surprised? They are talking about Trigger Warnings, guys. You know, the things that are on classes or texts that discuss adult content at universities? People used to go to college to expand their minds and be exposed to new things. Not anymore, slick!

      This is more liberal catering to the lowest common denominator. Something in this sub might remind little Trixie of the time a guy put his hand on her leg when they were out on a date. Didn't he know it she was just in it for a free dinner? God! Slap a trigger warning on that shit!

      [–]NidStyles 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

      These are leftists not liberals. Liberals are free-markets guys. Leftists are control freaks.

      [–]Modredpillschool 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Libertarians are free market guys. Liberals are often socially liberal bleeding into their economic stance- Somebody's poor? We should make a law to balance that. Somebody's been hurt by an industry? We need a regulation for that.

      [–]NidStyles -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

      Incorrect. Liberalism is derived from the economic revolution of the Scholastic. To be liberal literally means letting people be free to associate.

      [–]Modredpillschool 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

      That may be so, but the US liberals feel that they have to command that freedom through regulation.

      The ones truly in favor of free market solutions call themselves libertarians now.

      [–]NidStyles 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Well, the leftists call themselves libertarians as well. I will just keep going along with being a Classical Liberal.

      [–]Modredpillschool 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Think Ron Paul vs Obama. One is a libertarian, the other is a known liberal.

      [–]kjuca 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      In America, liberal means leftist. The term is used differently elsewhere.

      [–]Sdom1 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      You're using liberal to mean an economic liberal, which is not what I mean. I'm talking about political liberals, which are on the same spectrum as leftists and SJWs. When people in the US say liberal, they aren't talking about a free market proponent.

      [–]NidStyles 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      They are the same thing. Both economic and political liberalism came out of the same works. It all originated with the scholastic period that was culminated with the works of Cantillon, who Adam Smith plagiarized from. Political liberalism followed as a direct result of the works that described how to create economic liberalism.

      I don't play the leftist game of mushing words to conflate topics. That is the realm of the Marxists and whatevers they want to call themselves these days.

      [–]Behenvia 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      why dont u just say marxists?

      [–]NidStyles 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Because they aren't all Marxists. Some of them are Trotsky's or Lenin's.

      [–]HighOnLife 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      A subreddit needs to be created to index the 'opt-in' only content.

      [–]John_DiFool 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Spez's answer regarding "unpopular ideologies". This should mean TRP is safe for the time being.

      [–]ModRedSovereign 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I trust him as much as I do a post-wall spinster with her birth control.

      Bookmark Puerarchy.com guys.

      [–]1spicy_fries 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      It's such a terrible name for a redpill site... PUKE-ARKY...

      Seriously... it's horrible.

      [–]Modredpillschool 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Poo-air-arky.

      You don't have to like it.

      [–]DrunkenOni 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yes there's a lot of kneejerk reactions here (rightly so) but if you read a little deeper, it seems this place is pretty safe. Any post he expands on the broad ideas makes it pretty clear TRP will be allowed to continue its existence. Worst case it sounds like is we get quarantined from search.

      [–]Kronouranos 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah, it seems that we're safe unless something huge happens. I don't think we give the admins enough credit. If they wanted us gone, it would've been done years ago. But I think they understand that we follow every rule, don't brigade at all, are very good in the links we provide, don't advocate anything illegal, and don't harass or hate any one specifically.

      Sure, they might make it harder for outsiders to find us, but I don't think anyone here really cares.

      [–]NeoreactionSafe 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Brave New World (1998) Full Movie | Peter Gallagher Movies Online - YouTube

      www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-eYYBdr1G0

      Someone mentioned Brave New World and it's a great book equal to 1984.

      In 1984 the government uses fear to control you.

      In Brave New World the system revolves around pleasure.

      If you are looking for a good movie tonight check it out.

      [–]Roflsquad 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I love that they made us read the book in school. Brave New World should be taught in every country in my opinion.

      [–]neurosurg 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

      My guess is they will flag posts "hate speech" at the very least. It wouldn't surprise me if members of "hate speech" subs end up having some sort of flair, too. All the more reason to maintain 2 separate accounts.

      [–]cuvluj -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

      All the more reason to maintain 2 separate accounts.

      If they actually add "past hate-speech offender" flag, they will probably permaban for this.

      [–]projectself 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

      This is good news in my opinion.

      It will reduce the amount of users that swing in, completely unable to contribute and unwilling to learn. For those searching for answers, the term "Red Pill" is literally everywhere these days. Every blog, every men focused site is aware of us. From Roosh to No More Mr Nice Guy forums. If someone is seeking answers they will find it. Those just trolling around looking for bullshit may not find us, but in my opinion, that just means less garbage posts to deal with.

      [–]trp_hamlet 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Completely agree. Making TRP a little harder to access will help reconcentrate the message. I doubt it will slow that much, however. I found TRP through a random, innocuous imgur comment that referenced it. Little did I know it would become my City on the Hill.

      [–]Sir_Shitlord_focker 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This, search and you shall find.

      [–]Jaques_Fury 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

      So, why are we still here?

      Before this point, we were here as a beacon for the men that needed it. A positive male space for the guys who've been denied one their entire lives. By making us invisible and quarantined, how do we continue to fulfill that mission on Reddit?

      Think about the new process for how people would have to "stumble" upon us:

      • Hear about TRP from someone else online
      • Search for it via 3rd party search engines like Google
      • Log in once they've found it, thereby identifying themselves
      • Opt into a setting that enables them to see our content

      I know that when I first found TRP, I only glanced at it and left. Its reputation scared me, so I didn't read anything. If I had been forced to identify my account as one that "opted into indecent content", I would have never cast that first glance.

      We need for people to be able to glance at us. If we stay, we're allowing them to isolate us, erase us. No one will find us. And if they do, they'll be too scared to opt in to checking out what we're about.

      [–]antariusz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The log-in thing is important for the monetization efforts of reddit.

      They know that certain people ONLY visit reddit to look at restricted subs (porn or redpill, etc)... and they know that by forcing users to log in, they will enable better statistics to give to their advertisers.

      Remember, if you aren't paying for the product, you're the product.

      Think about the shit test "we aren't having sex tonight" ... You know she is thinking about having sex. If she wasn't thinking about having sex, she wouldn't have said "we aren't having sex tonight".

      Similarly, by going to great lengths to show "BUT WE AREN'T GOING TO MAKE ANY MONEY OFF THE RESTRICTED SUBS"... You know exactly what they are thinking about... how to make money off the users of restricted subs. And they get that by you just staying logged in full time for a "better experience" which is how facebook started out... and now just requires a log in to see ANYTHING.

      [–]aptway 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well, if people hear things that challenge the politically-correct status quo, it might make them gasp, uncomfortable.

      And we certainly can't have that, can we? I spoke out about the guidelines yesterday on FB, expressing concern of subs being banned that were merely politically-incorrect, and not necessarily hateful. One guy actually responded "Hopefully this'll mean more cat GIFs and science AMAs." Fucking simp.

      The real question is who will be making the calls on which content "violates a common sense of decency." Something tells me the process won't be democratic nor collaborative.

      [–]1nzgs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This place may be removed from search results but the term "red pill" itself is firmly lodged in the lexicons of many popular male spaces online including political and fitness boards. I have no doubt that people would continue to sign up here in their droves no matter how hard reddit tries to sweep us under the carpet.

      [–]th3STlG 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      What about creating another sub that is very mild and putting key words in just a few posts (maybe 5) so when people search, they find that and can be directed to TRP?

      [–]69Cobalt 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I know myself and probably a fair other amount of users wound up here just from hearing it mentioned in other subs frequently.

      You hear of these mythical misogynists in the red pill and you're curious what makes them special enough to generate so much publicity compared to your usual coontown or other blatantly offensive subs.

      As long as people keep mentioning trp I think people will keep coming

      [–]1favours_of_the_moon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      another type of content that is difficult to define, but you know it when you see it, is the content that violates a common sense of decency.

      That's the part that freaks me out. Normally that is the definition of "pornography." What they are essentially saying is IF WE DON'T LIKE IT THEN FUCK YOU.

      [–]mademychoice 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      First rule of The Red Pill....

      Those who want to wake up will find us, just like Neo found Morpheus

      [–]Man-with-a-pitchfork 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Morpheus found Neo, not the other way round.

      [–]fortifiedoranges 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      But Neo knew his life was was a lie, and went looking for an answer. Morpheus was looking for the One before the start of the first movie. You're both right.

      [–]darkwolfx24678 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      RP will most definitely become one of the hidden or "opt-in" subreddits. Without a doubt. I found the subreddit by word of mouth and I'm sure others will.

      [–]sealteamaus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      one night the term "the red pill" popped in to my head and i had to look for it i dont know why

      [–]Bookkeep 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Not content with shadowbanning users, Reddit is now shadowbanning subs. And if we ever want to do a "membership drive" just post one of those long winded write ups that Reddit loves about how "TRP will get you what you want, but make you hollow inside"

      Or an ask Reddit thread, "What's the worst subreddit?"

      [–]Special Olympianmakethemsayayy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Or an ask Reddit thread, "What's the worst subreddit?"

      Oh it's that nasty redpill! They don't pedestalize us women! And they use facts and basic observations! Such mysognists!!

      [–]markusfrisk 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I just love how vague the new policies are. "Harassment" is not okay. "Against public decency" is not okay (that sounded like something a grandpa would say in between shouts to get off his lawn). What exactly makes reddit think that after 200k people stood up for free speech they'd be okay with being thrown a bone in the shape of a Chinese woman while the people who are left continue with the blatantly obvious censorship?

      [–]1cover20 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I don't get why the crackdown now. They get rid of the former Kleiner executive who tried to make undeserved money by suing them, and then they spoil all that good will with this.

      Maybe they pissed off someone "important" when they got rid of Ms. Pao.

      [–]markusfrisk 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Maybe they're not done getting rid of people and want to completely change the leadership. Or maybe they want reddit to seem like this brave website that stood up for "decency and Christian values" even in the face of an onslaught of criticism. Hell, scratch that, I got nothing. It's inexplicable at the moment.

      [–]himynamesdre 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm in love with the red pill. Always been in shape and good looking, but undoubtedly a bitch beta... since I found the red pill, I have been reading daily, working harder, am now 205 lbs at 8.5% body fat, and working daily to be less a bitch. I think the red pill should honestly be more accessible, because the unapologetic forum is necessary. Sure, some thoughts may be a little radical, but at the very core of red pill is self improvement. If you are against spreading that, then you are part of the problem

      [–]UncharminglyWitty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I certainly didn't wander in here. I deliberately came here after a bunch of people shit on it. Read it. Wondered why everyone though it was so bad and have since become a fringe member of the community.

      I really don't think the opt in will hurt too much. My understanding is they can opt in to all of the "no common decency" stuff all at once. Which I imagine many people will do.

      [–]1RedDragon41 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I'm more concerned that those who subscribe to TRP are going to be forced to opt-in meaning there is going to be a list somewhere of those that have.

      [–]Modredpillschool 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There's already a list of subscribers.

      [–]destinypallooker 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      As long as Google still shows trp. Information wants to be free. Reddit can't stop that.

      [–]audscias 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Robots.txt can, but I guess they won't do it..

      [–]Craterefumant -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I wonder if it would not be better to move on to the back up forum anyway.

      [–]crosenblum -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I came here willingly and freely, to learn how to be a stronger and better man.

      If freedom is no longer respected, then are we living in a tyranny, where only supported ideas, words, thoughts are encouraged?

      [–]johnyann 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      This subreddit is absolutely not against common decency. The only people that get outright sexist are idiots that get down voted very quickly.

      The Red Pill is probably one of the least sexist places on the internet. It believes that women are allowed to have initiative in who they select to have relationships with/sleep with. It teaches that you aren't entitled to sex just for having a dick.

      I mean, shit. If we're gonna be banned because people here have a sexual preference not to enter relationships with women who have slept with 100s of dudes, that's not sexist either. That's a personal preference.

      I can go on all day. But I seriously doubt this place will be treated the same way coontown is.

      [–]1oldredder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I mean, shit. If we're gonna be banned because people here have a sexual preference not to enter relationships with women who have slept with 100s of dudes, that's not sexist either. That's a personal preference.

      according to a huge part of society those notions are the highest offense, right near treason

      [–]Stationarity 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I came here after hitting the random button for about 30 mins and landing on this page. I wonder if that still works.

      [–]1oldredder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I found this place directly by reference from mgtowhq.com and that directly from zerohedge.com

      Just as digg died (digg got dug! a grave...) reddit too will die when its oppression and/or offensiveness to the most valuable users is too much.

      I'm ready any time to move on to another site or no site at all for this.

      [–]donit -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

      The sites they are targeting are ones that are directly hateful. What they mean is anything that intentionally harasses, bullies, or abuses an individual or group of people.

      Note the intent must be to harass. Trying to get plates, or gain a foothold in a dying relationship is a completely different thing. That's trying to get a girlfriend, not trying harass a girl. See the difference?

      Fatpeoplehate and coontown weren't trying to get a fat girlfriend or make a few black friends. They were trying to harass them. It's all about the intent.

      [–]frys180[🍰] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The sites they are targeting are ones that are directly hateful.

      This subreddit was once described as one of the most misogynistic/bigoted places on reddit. RP is still a target.

      [–]1cover20 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'll bet you money that we are not included in such a category.

      This place is tame. It has become very tame, and now it's so full of shills I am finding it close to useless. Half the responses to most threads are blue pill distractors these days!

      No need to make the same drama again and again. Granted, it may be the first time OP has raised the question here, but many others have including, I think, mods.

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        [–]trphardmode 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Obvious troll is obvious. You are literally the SRS caricature of TRP.

        I don't want to make things easy for aberrant females. I want them to feel the white hot burn of judgement and disapproval in the most public way

        Lol, tell me more about your manly plan to use shaming tactics on your opposition

        [–]Trpdoc -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        to think, if I had no found TRP the last 3 years would have been very very different

        [–]Suck_My_Zarflog -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        haha I thought everyone finds this sub at the top of "Whats the most bigoted/undesirable subreddit" Askreddit threads. It's the haters that keep us going.

        [–]ramot1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        !Anybody want to bet that the admins consider us as within the bounds of common decency? No? Me either.

        And neither do they know, but they will know it when(if) they see it.

        [–]beginner_ -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Does reddit have some kind of export functions? Can posts and comments be exported? I doubt it but maybe mods know more. Then one could just export it and then import into a new system (some of the many forum/community softwares) running on purearchy.com. Then the guys googling for such stuff should find their way here.

        And if no export, maybe one could write a web crawler and extract content that way, but that would be much harder. Crawling should be possible:

        http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14322834/obtaining-reddit-data

        The crawler could then convert the data directly to the new softwares requirements. For sure a thing to think about.

        [–]HungryGeorge -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I don't think they are going to touch TRP. Nothing in the language that Huffman is using regarding hate speech targets TRP. I think it's time to move on.

        [–]heeeeeeeeheeeeeeeeee -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Coontown is alive and well. I'm sure we'll be fine.

        [–]TheJessee -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Haha this is pathetic, with these vague rules they can just do this to any subreddit at their discretion, this reminds me of a game i used to play where their forum had a rant forum, it obviously had quite some critique against the game and the way it was ran, they simply made it so the forum only shows up when you are logged in and it doesn't appear in the search results, they are giving you a fake sense of free speech while at the same time silencing you just by not letting your voice get out there

        [–]JeanValjean197o -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The Great Wall of Chairman Pao.